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Wii Homebrew Takes Several Leaps Forward

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 5 years ago | from the make-it-and-let-your-fans-make-it-better dept.

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Croakyvoice writes "Fans of Homebrew on the Nintendo Wii can celebrate with an explosion of releases today, in just a few hours there has been a release of a proof of concept version of Linux for the Wii, an MP3 Player, the Super Nintendo emulator Snes9X has been ported and a converter that converts Gamecube Dol files into Elf for usage on the Wii (Which opens up a multitude of emulators and homebrew games and applications). A tutorial on how to get homebrew working with the Twilight Hack will help those interested."

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275 comments

Wii Homebrew Takes Several Leaps Forward (4, Funny)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551116)

I understand Grandpa brewed his own during prohibition, and though he heard rumors that the police were polluting some brewer's beer with Wii, he said tey never got hold of his brew.

Can you Wii while you're leaping? I mean, without getting wet?

Re:Wii Homebrew Takes Several Leaps Forward (2, Funny)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551162)

Oh hell I made first post. What's worse, it makes reference to... I can't beer to say it...

nintendo (2, Funny)

Freeside1 (1140901) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551120)

Nintendo is sure to be pissed, or wii'd?

Re:nintendo (3, Funny)

LecheryJesus (1245812) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551144)

If you are wii'd on then you'd probably be pissed off

LJ

Get 'em Tiger! (0)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551122)

In regards to the Linux, I just have to wonder at the utility of it all... I've got some old slot 1 Pentium 3s in my garage that would provide more 'oomph' then the Wii can provide. Mostly due to increased memory, available agp slots and ease of use. However I always applaud these kind of modifications to CEs.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (5, Interesting)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551226)

Linux + mythfrontend + wiimote sounds like a pretty killer multimedia option. And that's just the first thing that came to mind.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22551274)

Yeah, if you're jonesing for standard resolution videos only. How, um, killer. Even if you could somehow manage to come up with a HD codec that the Wii could handle, it can't output it.

The wiimote works great without a Wii.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (3, Insightful)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551326)

Yeah, if you're jonesing for standard resolution videos only

Sounds great to me. I don't have HD, nor do I plan to upgrade any time soon (I have no desire to have my livingroom dominated by a 40"+ monster, and given the viewing distances in my livingroom, HD would be a waste on anything smaller).

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551380)

I'm going to have to agree with you. The improvements provided by 40"+ TVs and 1080p resolution have been negligible at best (IMHO). Only gaming really benefits at this point, but that's why I have a PC and a 360 hooked into my "HD" monitor.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (2)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551564)

higher res tv is much better to watch no matter what the viewing distance. wether the price tag on current sets is worth it to you is a different matter.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (3, Insightful)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551642)

"higher res tv is much better to watch no matter what the viewing distance"

If you believe that, you don't understand the physics of human vision.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551908)

unless your 1/2 blind, standard def is not as good as high def. end of story.

no strawman arguements like "if i view a 51cm screen from 10m away it looks the same".

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (3, Insightful)

644bd346996 (1012333) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552304)

Since when is debunking hyperbole a straw-man attack? And why do so many /. trolls think that calling something a strawman is the equivalent of an anti-Godwin automatic win?

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

that this is not und (1026860) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552356)

That depends a lot on how you define 'not as good.'

There is so little being produced on television that I would want to watch that it's irrelevant to me. Maybe in a decade or so there will be enough _good_ HD content to make it worth the investment. For now, I'll let the 'early adopters' subsidize development.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552414)

I have a 42" screen which i sit about 5 feet away from, and i also have a projector which can make a much bigger display (never measured it)...
I can sure notice the difference between regular TV, the interlacing is horrible and deinterlacing can cause artifacts... 480p looks a lot better, but it still looks a little blocky even from 5 feet away.... 720p looks nice, and i cant tell the difference between 720p and 1080p at that distance. I refuse to try 1080i as i hate interlacing.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552588)

Or physics in general, for that matter.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

gallwapa (909389) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552174)

Uh, 40" negligible?

I've got a 50" 720p and it looks better by a LOT. Even bluray stuff (1080p source downscaled) looks wonderful. Once you go blu....

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552502)

Yes I find HD content to be very negligible in terms of improved picture quality with currently available media and broadcasts. Keep in mind this is all very subjective. But I still stand by my opinion that HD video content only becomes worthwhile at 40"+. And even then I don't find it to be all that much better. With the exception of NFL games, which I don't watch very often anyways.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (4, Insightful)

Scyber (539694) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551936)

I am not questioning your desire to get a new TV, but I find it somewhat contradictory to think that your living room would be "dominated" by a 40+" TV, but yet the room is too large to get any benefit from HD on a smaller TV. Especially in my experience where I went from a 27" SD set to a 46" HD LCD and the TV is actually less "dominate" than the old TV. It is pretty amazing how the flat panels can actually blend right into a room, much moreso than older CRTs.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551392)


Linux + mythfrontend + wiimote


Or you could you know, just use the wiimote in any linux distribution... just as a standard bluethoot device...

I *knew* someone would post something among those lines... hehe

Go get em XBox one (1)

Werrismys (764601) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551868)

No, Xbox1 and XBMC was the killer app. Wii cannot compare with what XBMC was 3 years ago.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

nuzak (959558) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552042)

> Linux + mythfrontend + wiimote sounds like a pretty killer multimedia option

Assuming a decent radial menu system, maybe. Most uses of the Wiimote I've seen in games have treated it like a mouse, making you aim at buttons, which is about the last thing I want in a remote.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

nuzak (959558) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552110)

Argh ... that's most uses i've seen in non-games. Like pre-game UI stuff, or browsing. Most of the UI elements don't even obey fitt's law, so you have to make sure you fit the cursor arrow inside the button box. Awfully clunky compared to just pushing a button.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551316)

I've been considering trying to hack my Wii just to get DVD playback. It's a nice little box already hooked to my TV with a DVD drive. I don't know why Nintendo won't do it in a legit way. I'd even be willing to shell out a couple dollars for it.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

Sangui (1128165) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551358)

If you put in a hardware modchip, there's stuff that allows you to playback DVD's, but it'll kill the laser. Wii wasn't built for constant reading of a disk.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (4, Informative)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551860)

It's not the laser that would die, it's the motor. Normal DVD reading requires that the motor step up and down its speed depending on the track being read. The Wii works differently. Instead of stepping up and down the disc velocity, it keeps the disc speed constant and steps up/down the decoding rates on the disc. As a result, GameCube and Wii games get a higher transfer rate near the edge of the disc.

(My understanding is that one of the classic optimizations for the GameCube was to organize the data on the disc to provide the highest transfer rates during game loading.)

This design is why GameCubes had very few drive failures in comparison to the PS2. Nintendo builds systems like tanks. ;-)

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (4, Informative)

rundgren (550942) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551952)

Interesting.. I guess this is what's called Constant Angular Velocity [wikipedia.org]

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552036)

I guess this is what's called Constant Angular Velocity,
Correct. I used to give the names and Wikipedia links, but I got tired of dragging them out every time I explained the difference between CAV and CLV (Constant Linear Velocity). :-)

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551356)

Yeah, but the Wii looks a lot nicer than most old computers.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551428)

Yeah, but the Wii looks a lot nicer than most old computer cases.
There fixed that for you.

In fact I've got a socket A SDRAM based microatx board I've been eyeing on putting into an old NES shell. Granted, it won't fit perfectly, might have some junk in the trunk... Maybe a 2600 shell would be better, meh. The point being you can put that old hardware in anything you like.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22552252)

true, dat. Just last night, I put a mighty mouse up my ass.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (3, Informative)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551528)

In regards to the Linux, I just have to wonder at the utility of it all... I've got some old slot 1 Pentium 3s in my garage that would provide more 'oomph' then the Wii can provide.

It has built-in wireless, comes with a remote control, is small and pretty, and now with a bit of luck hopefully it can run mplayer. That means DVD and stuff from your media server. I have a whole bunch of anime on my PC upstairs which I'd prefer to watch on the big screen from the sofa instead. Linux on Wii will make that possible.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551604)

A properly configured microatx board destined for recycling would do all that and more with a few addins and a nice case. Hell my 360 pulls all the media files I need from my PC in the office, all with no modifications. Like I said, I applaud the work. But I still fail to see Wii as viable for playing anything but games.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (4, Insightful)

RedWizzard (192002) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551798)

A properly configured microatx board destined for recycling would do all that and more with a few addins and a nice case.
Yes, but I already have a Wii. Why the hell would I want to add another box if the Wii would serve?

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551934)

because its easier to slap together old kit? lol

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

RedWizzard (192002) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552094)

because its easier to slap together old kit? lol
No, it's not. I don't have a MicroATX board or case sitting around. I have a Wii. All I have to do with the Wii is setup the software. That might be more difficult than setting up the software on some homebrew system, but with the homebrew system I'll have to research, purchase, and assemble the components. Why would I want to do that and add another box to the pile beside the TV if the Wii will do the same job?

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552446)

Yes, yes it is. If you don't have old kit lying around two things come to mind, go ahead and use your Wii like that and what the hell kind of /.'r are you? I kid, I kid... :)

But if you do have old kit, such as I do, enough to build 3-4 computers. Then it makes much more sense to build a dedicated media center or linux box out of that.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22552224)

Yes, but I already have a Wii. Why the hell would I want to add another box if the Wii would serve?


Well ... there IS the little matter, that Nintendo might block this functionality in the next hardware update, so the choice might be "keep this sort of an update" or "miss out on new features from Nintendo" (or, and this is the scary choice, get an update that breaks your Wii, so you can't do anything with it, because the update interacted with unofficial hacks, badly).

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

wozzinator (1079319) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551650)

In regards to the Linux, I just have to wonder at the utility of it all... I've got some old slot 1 Pentium 3s in my garage that would provide more 'oomph' then the Wii can provide. Mostly due to increased memory, available agp slots and ease of use. However I always applaud these kind of modifications to CEs.
I lol'd.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551724)

Why lol'd? A 550 P3 with 1gb of ram and a 7xxx nvidia card should easily be able to surpass whatever Wii could accomplish on running linux/media center kit. Unless of course I'm vastly over estimating the video acceleration from nvidia.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

wozzinator (1079319) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552056)

A P3's bus speed and clock speed would bottleneck the hell out of the video card and 1 gb of memory. I'm just saying that although the WII's hardware stats don't seem all that great its actually pretty powerful with its IBM PPC Broadway core and ATI Hollywood gpu.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552412)

A P3's bus speed and clock speed would bottleneck the hell out of the video card and 1 gb of memory.
Well what exactly are you trying to do here, those bottlenecks are going to effect any media playback or general computer tasks. A Wii is going to be superior for gaming yes, that's a given. But I still hold forth that old hardware (I threw the p3 out there cuz thats what I'm playing with right now) is better for media center or computing tasks then mucking about with your Wii. Although I still like projects such as that.

Re:Get 'em Tiger! (1)

wozzinator (1079319) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552500)

well with that ideology then they'd both do fine as general computers.

19 Watts (1)

frieko (855745) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552034)

As I recall the P3's weighed in at around 60-80 watts at the wall. The Wii uses 19 watts at full load.

Re:19 Watts (1)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552308)

It looks more of a range 13 to 34 [wikipedia.org] watts across the entire line. Granted that doesn't include the other hardware you include, but still. Resurrecting old kit to run linux/media center stuff seems a lot easier and better suited to the task then a Wii.

Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloader (4, Interesting)

Channard (693317) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551136)

.. it wouldn't surprise me if their next system update doesn't block this too. Though the main difference between this and the 360 exploit would seem to be that the Wii doesn't, as yet, force you to update in order to get online. The part of this that interests me the most is the SNES emulator - hopefully this might cause Nintendo to look at their pricing plan for the Virtual Console games. Seven quid for an unenhanced SNES game seems a bit pricey.

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (4, Interesting)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551174)

I don't care about an SNES emulator. I just want a Divix player.

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (1)

kurokaze (221063) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551396)

I'd be happy to play regular DVDs on my Wii. A DivX player is icing on the cake for me!

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551464)

Not me. I have 3 DVD changer, a PS2, and an HD-DVD player.. Yea I know but I got it for $98 and it is a really nice upconverting DVD player as well.
The last think I need is to play DVDs on the Wii. None of my players play DivX so that is the functionality I want. If it could play them over the network even better!

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (1)

webrunner (108849) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551440)

360s support divx natively as of the latest Dashboard update, so if you want a Divx player one of the easiest thing to right now is to just buy a cheap 360 (about the same price as a wii) and stick em on a USB flash drive or external HD or something.

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (1)

scuba0 (950343) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551484)

You mean like any ~$50 regular DVD-player that already does DivX. Why spend 3 times as much on something the person obviously is not interested in?

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (1)

powerlord (28156) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552240)

Yeah, its nice how DivX has finally gotten some love. The latest PS3 update also turned on DivX support (can stream it from a DLNA compliant server also :) ).

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552466)

Well for one I have a Wii already. Also I don't want any more devices hooked to the TV right now.

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (5, Insightful)

flynt (248848) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551288)

If 7 dollars is too much for an unenhanced SNES game, what do you think a fair price is, 6 dollars? They can only go so low. I spent 7 dollars on a McDonald's value meal at O'Hare this weekend. I spent 6 bucks on a coffee this morning. THOSE are outrageous prices. Getting to play ActRaiser/SMW/Mario Kart/etc. again sure as hell gives me more value for my dollar than that Big Mac did. If you won't get 5-7 dollars worth of enjoyment out of it, don't buy the game.

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (5, Funny)

chromatic (9471) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551372)

I spent 6 bucks on a coffee this morning.

I think you mean "milkshake".

I didn't say dollars.. (3, Informative)

Channard (693317) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551436)

.. I said 'pounds'. The actual cost of buying a SNES from the Virtual Console, if you're in the UK, works out as a total of eleven dollars. So we're paying over the odds compared to the US anyway.

Re:I didn't say dollars.. (-1, Troll)

lubricated (49106) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551692)

no, you said quid(whatever the hell that is) and you merely stated it "seams" pricey. Implying that it is not.

Re:I didn't say dollars.. (1)

HAKdragon (193605) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551896)

Quid = Pounds, much in the same way that Buck = Dollar.

Re:I didn't say dollars.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22551912)

I have some good news! You're not allowed to post anymore, due to ignorance, poor spelling and grammar, and crappy logic skills! Congratulations!

Re:I didn't say dollars.. (1, Redundant)

lubricated (49106) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552380)

>> I have some good news! You're not allowed to post anymore, due to ignorance, poor spelling and grammar, and crappy logic skills! Congratulations!

Says the AC.

Re:I didn't say dollars.. (0, Troll)

Braino420 (896819) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551954)

no, you said quid(whatever the hell that is)
You, sir, are a moron. First off, most everyone knows that quid=pound. Everyone who didn't know that knew they could find the answer from google. Slashdot ID revoked.

Re:I didn't say dollars.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22552084)

Or he could be from the US, and have never heard the term.

Wait, you already called him a moron, I'm just being redundant. Sorry.

Re:I didn't say dollars.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22552546)

awww, stung by a bunch of island monkeys.

Re:I didn't say dollars.. (1, Troll)

lubricated (49106) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552442)

>> You, sir, are a moron. First off, most everyone knows that quid=pound.

Ok, so I'm a moron, let me know if responding to me made you feel better.

>> Everyone who didn't know that knew they could find the answer from google.

Everyone that didn't know and cared.

>> Slashdot ID revoked.

let me know how that's working out for you.

Re:I didn't say dollars.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22552496)

It's cool man, instead of using my mod points on this topic, I just looked up all of your posts and marked you overrated. Have a nice day.

Re:I didn't say dollars.. (1, Redundant)

lubricated (49106) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552586)

Here's another one, bang away. Let me know, I wouldn't want you to have any spare mod points.

Re:I didn't say dollars.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22552638)

It's called blockquote jackass, look it up (the aforementioned google should do nicely). Oh ya, pretend that you don't care enough to look it up, but care enough to, not only reply, but to also reply to the person calling you a moron. Keep replying though, please, it makes me smile. This is why I wish /. had a forum, so your wonderful insights can go on indefinitely.

Re:I didn't say dollars.. (1)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552456)

Not to be funny, but how many hamburgers is that?

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22551632)

He did say "quid", which would put it at more like $14 USD.

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (1)

nanoakron (234907) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551648)

Uhh...he said 'quid' - common parlance for 'uk pound sterling'.

Seven of whch equal around 13.50 of your US dollars...so yet again we are being ripped off royally over here on 'treasure island'.

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22551688)

£7 is $14 is about four times what I'd spend.

$7 value meal? You are an idiot. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22551956)

A fiscal idiot. Seriously. You should have stopped beforehand at a Burger King and gotten a Whopper (a real one, not a "Whopper Jr.), fries and drink for $2. I do it all the time.

And who the fuck pays $7 for a coffee? Cappuccino at Exxon: 77 cents.

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (1)

vertinox (846076) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552040)

If 7 dollars is too much for an unenhanced SNES game, what do you think a fair price is, 6 dollars?

If shipping and handling of a physical product were involved, I would say no. However, we are talking about ROMs that are a fraction of the size of songs that you would find on iTunes that apparently make Apple and others money at being sold at $.99 a pop.

Obviously, bandwidth isn't the issue here.

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (1)

lo5 (966272) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552346)

Your money well spent? $7 leads to a lifetime enjoyment video game. Or $7 which leads to a heart burn that turns into a heart attack and diarrhea from Mickey-Dees.

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (1)

edwdig (47888) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551522)

How are they going to stop it? It's a exploting a buffer overrun in the Zelda save game loading code. What are they going to do, issue a firmware update that prevents the Wii from storing Zelda saves?

Re:Given that Nintendo has already blocked Freeloa (1)

inio (26835) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551862)

The firmware gets involved when the save file is copied from the SD card to the internal memory. Since the save can't be copied off the SD card directly, they can just verify the save before they copy it. Alternately, the games probably use an API from firmware to access save data. They could special case accesses from RZD* and verify at that point.

Screw Pricing, How about Availability (1)

cappadocius (555740) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552338)

The part of this that interests me the most is the SNES emulator - hopefully this might cause Nintendo to look at their pricing plan for the Virtual Console games. Seven quid for an unenhanced SNES game seems a bit pricey.

I could give a rat's ass about the price of the Virtual Console games. I bought a Wii so I could play the old games from my childhood, and I knew the price points when I bought in. What I didn't know was how pathetically slow the release of classic games would be. I really don't care about some obscure NeoGeo game, Nintendo, just hurry up and release all the best selling SNES and N64 games.

Now that there is an emulator on the Wii, maybe Nintendo will get the message that if they don't hurry up and release the games I want, I'll just pirate them.

Seriously, when will media copyright holders learn that if they want me to buy their products legally, they need to actually sell them when I want them? I mean, seriously, the least give release dates so I know that I'm not waiting in vain.

WRONG (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22551148)

FRIST PSOT#%!@%@

Your article sucks. 90% of it is wrong.

HA HA (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22551160)

lick a dogs pecker..

red rocket, red rocket!

Great, now the Twilight Princess Team will... (3, Funny)

Leptok (1096623) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551166)

Have to commit Seppeku.

Slowly but surely... (4, Interesting)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551172)

...they're getting there. Meanwhile, game programmers have been working with the (admittedly limited) Opera Browser to produce games designed for the Wii [wiicade.com] . WiiCade is even paying for games [wiicade.com] now, something which you won't find out of other homebrew ventures.

It's not a perfect solution, but it does work, and it works well enough to play some pretty cool stuff. And you can even get paid to perform your hobby! How cool is that? :)

Disclaimer: I am associated with WiiCade. So take this with a grain of salt.

At last, a use for my copy of Twilight Princess (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551196)

I bought that Zelda game along with Red Steel when the Wii came out (yup, i preordered in a COMET in the UK). I played it for maybe 5 hours (not straight, at different times) and got really bored. The first two hours is a really boring tutorial and the next hours are so monotonous that I just stopped playing it. It has been gathering dust since then. I was thinking of trading it but with these news I do not think so!)

Unfortunately (4, Funny)

Sabz5150 (1230938) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551200)

It seems that their attempts to host a website on a Wii has failed.

Nintendo will be happy (1)

Lewrker (749844) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551204)

that the users can finally play games for their vintage gaming systems free of charge.

Re:Nintendo will be happy (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551398)

We could already do that. I've been playing my old NES, GB and GBC games on my GBA for quite a while. Overall, it actually works out pretty well in most cases. Except for the GBC games, all the others can be saved at arbitrary points. I loaded every game I have onto one cart, which is now the only cart that ever goes into that handheld.

I don't mind paying for vintage games, as long as there is a compelling reason to do so. Make it look proper on the new system, save games fix any relevant bugs and make it work well on the new system. I'm not really interested myself in paying for games that I already own a second time, but if I didn't own the original version, I don't mind paying for a refresh.

wii-linux.com message (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22551250)

There seems to be a weird message on http://wii-linux.com./ [wii-linux.com.] Anything related?

bottom line (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22551252)

Bottom line:

How much will it cost me to run homebrew games on the wii?
Will it void my warrenty?

How about a homebrew friendly game console?

Re:bottom line (1)

Sangui (1128165) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551334)

If you want to run HOMEBREW games, and not downloaded pirated Wii games, then 50 bucks for an SDGecko + the cost of an SD card. No it won't. Get an Xbox(Original, not 360) or PSP if you want a system with an active homebrew scene already established.

Re:bottom line (1)

urcreepyneighbor (1171755) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551454)

How about a homebrew friendly game console?
XGameStation [xgamestation.com]

SDGecko (2, Informative)

Sangui (1128165) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551310)

I won't care until I can run this off of my SD card plugged into the Wii, as opposed to needing an SDGecko to go through my Gamecube Memory card port. Until then, ZZzzzZZZzzzzzZZ

Simon says take two steps back (1)

SleptThroughClass (1127287) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551330)

"Wii Homebrew Takes Several Leaps Forward" ... I was expecting a footwear-related hack.

Yes, but... (3, Funny)

Wandering Wombat (531833) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551504)

... can it run Vista?

No?

Awesome.

That's great and all (1)

CSMatt (1175471) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551582)

But does it run ...

It does? Sweet.

Smash Bros (2, Insightful)

Applejoint (1173609) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551644)

Wonder if the twilight hack can break region locking so euros can actually get Smash Bros Brawl this year!

PS3 Linux Wide Open (5, Informative)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551694)

The PS3 has been running Linux on its Cell CPU's PPC core [psubuntu.com] for several releases now, including several official Ubuntu PS3 releases. Sony does lock out the RSX graphics chip to Linux, but the Cell's 6 SPUs (pipelined DSPs) are wide open for development. And now that developers have ported video drivers to the SPUs [psubuntu.com] , the PS3 is a hot little multimedia PC. I watch downloaded 1080P HD videos (and regular upsampled MPG/WMV/AVI/etc) right on the same 50" HDMI TV I surf the web (and watch Blu-Ray discs) and program with. And when Sony releases the PlayTV [wikipedia.org] 2-channel DVB TV tuner for PS3 next month, I expect my Linux PS3 will beat TiVo at its own game, too.

The Wii is just getting started as "homebrew". Its HW isn't nearly as screaming as the PS3, nor as designed to be open for Linux. Hacking it sounds like a fun toy, which is why people buy the Wii. But the PS3 is already starting to be a Linux platform more interesting than even its gaming. A few more leaps forward on the PS3 and the Wii will look so 21st Century.

Re:PS3 Linux Wide Open (1)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551838)

Doc Ruby,

Thanks for the ubuntu links. I have a couple questions for you if you don't mind-

What codecs are the 1080p videos using?

Have you had any luck with Matruska/x264 videos?

Re:PS3 Linux Wide Open (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 5 years ago | (#22551916)

I don't know which codecs. The MPG, WMV and AVI files I've test have all worked. The HD files come from ftp://mpeg:mpeg@ftp.cmf.nrl.navy.mil/pub/iHDTV/MPEG/. The SPU driver developer's latest notes indicated they're working on x264 right now, so maybe they don't work yet, but the developer is really fast at this stuff when they're working on it.

Re:PS3 Linux Wide Open (1)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552506)

I'm pretty sure Fedora was running on it even before Ubuntu.

Re:PS3 Linux Wide Open (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22552514)

That's nice, except that it involves buying a PS3, which most Slashdotters won't do due to the boycott on Sony products in response to the root-kit and Blu-ray DRM fiascos. Or would, if Slashdotters weren't so infatuated with shiny things.

Getting Linux to work on the Wii is a fairly impressive hack. Getting it to work on the PS3 isn't a hack at all, it's a worthless feature that no one actually uses. Sort of like the ability to play games, given the figures as high as 90% for PS3s being used as Blu-ray players.

And when Sony releases the PlayTV 2-channel DVB TV tuner for PS3 next month, I expect my Linux PS3 will beat TiVo at its own game, too.
Well, probably, since my understanding is that TiVo isn't available in the regions where the PlayTV is. PlayTV is currently a European exclusive. (Plus Australia and New Zealand? I'm not sure.)

The Wii is just getting started as "homebrew".
Bullshit! First, you're ignoring the Wii Browser, which people have been creating games for since release. Secondly, unlike Sony, Nintendo is releasing a development kit to allow third-party developers create downloadable games via a new "Wii Ware" channel. Nintendo is embracing homebrew content.

Re:PS3 Linux Wide Open (1)

Punto (100573) | more than 5 years ago | (#22552598)

the wii has fun games
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