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Isn't it as easy as (5, Insightful)

tnoren (1246462) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559040)

Turning the cell phone off? Maybe Airplane mode?

Re:Isn't it as easy as (2, Insightful)

Mongoose Disciple (722373) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559106)

I had the same thought.

Maybe they're thinking that people who regularly turn off their phones at night (and why at night?) will be obvious Taliban sympathizers and hunted down during the day? Beats me.

Re:Isn't it as easy as (4, Insightful)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559566)

Well, when you see concentrated movements at night and it isn't going to a pub, you pretty much know that you should at least check into it when your in a war zone.

The interesting thing here is that we are seeing two things that we haven't really saw before. One and probably the most significant, is that taliban tactics are being traded and treated like open information like the US government's terrorist spy program. This tells me that people aren't as afraid of the taliban as they used to be. The other is that we are hitting them so hard that they are scrambling for a way to mitigate it. If it was something they weren't worried about, they would simply say leave them off. But for some reason, they are desperate enough to ask for help in turning the towers off because they think it is how we are finding them.

Either way, I like it.

Re:Isn't it as easy as (1)

Loibisch (964797) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559224)

but...but...but what if you forget to turn it off...wouldn't it be much more convenient if some safety measure kicked in, like, let's say disabling the ability of a whole country to use their phones?

Re:Isn't it as easy as (4, Funny)

Dr. Eggman (932300) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559546)

but...but...but what if you forget to turn it off...
Don't worry! If you forget to turn off your cell, some helpful people will come along and "turn off the cellphone" for you...

Re:Isn't it as easy as (5, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559506)

You need to understand and appreciate the mentality that doesn't seem to be exclusive to muslim extremists.

The mentality I speak of is "The entire world around me should be adjusted to fit my way of thinking or doing things."

If you happen to live in an area where "blue laws" exist, you'll know what I'm talking about. In my area, you cannot buy beer on Sunday before 12:00 noon, so if you forgot to buy beer before the game starts the previous day, you're SOL thanks to these religiously sponsored legislative actions. Such laws do not serve the community -- they serve to create a society that better aligns itself with religious interests.

In this case, it would make more sense that Taliban people should have to turn their phones off to avoid being tracked... but it's too inconvenient for them to change the way they do things. So instead, they want to make things inconvenient for EVERYONE to better suit their individual needs.

This just goes to show what is truly broken about their minds. They are far too self-interested to really be concerned about anything resembling "greater good." And I'll say it once again -- this is not the exclusive territory of muslim extremists. It's not even the exclusive territory of religious extremists though it does seem to be something of a hallmark of them. It's a problem of the self-interested mind.

So every time you see someone trying to get new law written to protect their children when they should be doing it themselves, this is a sign that they have the same mental weakness that requires the rest of the world compensate for their stupidity.

Re:Isn't it as easy as (4, Funny)

oyenstikker (536040) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559628)

Damn religious zealots. When I forget to pick up my wine for communion on Saturday, I'm SOL the next morning.

Re:Isn't it as easy as (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559678)

That would essentially correct... but in my area, it's all about the Southern Baptists... no such activity. Otherwise, I'm sure they'd have added just such a provision to the blue law.

Re:Isn't it as easy as (1, Informative)

Glock27 (446276) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559592)

Turning the cell phone off? Maybe Airplane mode?

No. Time to get paranoid, your cell phone can be remotely tapped (speakerphone mic) even when it's off:

http://www.news.com/2100-1029-6140191.html [news.com]

That's what they're concerned about. A quote from the article:

Security-conscious corporate executives routinely remove the batteries from their cell phones, he added.

I wonder if that applies to Steve's iPhone? heh

All cars with OnStar can be monitored the same way. Welcome to 1984.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin

Re:Isn't it as easy as (0, Troll)

FrostDust (1009075) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559608)

I remember hearing how the US government is able to turn on and use a cellphone's microphone, even if the phone turned off, in order to listen in on the converstations being held by suspected drug trafficers. I can't imagine it being that impossible for the military's intellegence agencies to ascertain a phone's general location. Short of the user removing the battery, or securing the phone in a faraday cage, shuting down the phone towers seems the easiest way to keep everyone's location hidden at night.

obvious answer (3, Insightful)

sl0ppy (454532) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559054)

afraid of being tracked? don't carry your cellphone.

it's much easier to make a personal change than to have a whole infrastructure shut down.

Re:obvious answer (5, Insightful)

Manhigh (148034) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559100)

They seem to have a history of preferring others to change rather than change themselves.

Re:obvious answer (4, Insightful)

CSMatt (1175471) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559664)

So does this mean that we can call the "think of the children" groups terrorists now?

Re:obvious answer (1)

dave420 (699308) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559126)

But it's a lot harder to enforce that personal change in thousands of people than it is to pull 1 plug.

Re:obvious answer (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559418)

Lol.. Not really. Let me pretend to be a taliban leader. :"the americans are tacking our movement by your cell pones. Leave them at home on covert operations or else they will find and kill you".

That seemed easier the pulling a plug. I know, you would think there would be the one guy who wouldn't listen and keep his phone on during the movie. But these people aren't exectly known for not doing what they are told by their leadership.

Re:obvious answer (1)

edward2020 (985450) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559276)

I think in this case infrastructure probably refers to a few towers. The article mentions that we're (the US) tracking them primarily thru satellites. So, my techy friends, is it possible to track folks thru their cells without things like GPS. Isn't the inability to track people (and the problems this would cause for emergency operators in the 911 service) why GPS is being included in phones now.

Re:obvious answer (1)

metlin (258108) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559338)

Isn't the inability to track people (and the problems this would cause for emergency operators in the 911 service) why GPS is being included in phones now.
I do not know about that, but cell phone tower triangulation can be done without a GPS, to establish your position.

Quite obviously, the accuracy and resolution of such triangulation would not compare to a GPS triangulation, but it is still quite possible to sort of point your position using tower triangulation techniques.

Re:obvious answer (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559486)

It all depends on how spread out the towers are. The closer together they are, the better triangulation resolution you'll have.

Re:obvious answer (1)

Gerzel (240421) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559606)

Also the time it takes to do such an operation.

I don't know but 911 is often a time-limited affair.

Re:obvious answer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22559458)

Let them think they're turned off. We can put in our own that turn on when the official ones are turned off.

Try Reading The Article (5, Interesting)

mjpaci (33725) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559460)

From the article:

The reason for the threat is the Taliban's belief that American soldiers and rebels within Afghanistan are using mobile phones to track down remaining Taliban members. "Since the occupying forces stationed in Afghanistan usually at night use mobile phones for espionage to track down the mujahideen, the Islamic Emirate gave a three-day ultimatum to all mobile phone firms to switch off their phones from five in the afternoon until seven in the morning," Taliban spokesperson Qari Mohammad Yousuf told Reuters, ironically via mobile phone (and presumably during daylight).
They're trying to disrupt the Americans' use of cell phones as a communication network for gathering information. i.e. informants all over the country phone in the whereabouts of Taliban baddies.

Re:obvious answer (1)

Firehed (942385) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559480)

You don't think there's a slight chance that the possibility of tracking is just an excuse to stop communications nationwide as they feel convenient, do you? They may be ass holes, but they're not stupid.

This isn't about being track by their cellphones (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22559562)

This demand is about proving the Taliban is still relevant to the population of Afghanistan and capable of influencing their lives. They've lost pretty much all of their control over the population's behavior and they need to prove to themselves that they still matter.

Re:obvious answer (1)

Tom (822) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559662)

You can carry it.

Just remove the battery. If if it had a super-secret micro-battery hidden somewhere, that wouldn't last for more than maybe half an hour. A guy I remotely know who works for a german intelligence agency did that with his private cell phone - almost ten years ago.

You can also put it into a Faraday Cage, you know?

All of these strike me as more useful, because:
a) they mean that you are in control about when or when not you can be tracked.
b) a cellphone searching for, but not finding, a tower, will increase its output and continue searching. That means that at short range, you are easier to find if the cell network is down.

But hey, we don't expect the Taliban to know (or care) about technical details, do we?

Re:obvious answer (1)

pev (2186) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559676)

afraid of being tracked? don't carry your cellphone.

Nah, that's dangerous - you might need the phone to call an Ambulance after being shot at by the American squaddies...! Of course the pragmatic approach is to carry one but leave it switched off unless required.

First (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22559058)


sure... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22559060)

would you like fries with that?

I'll get right to it. (1)

IndustrialComplex (975015) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559062)

"they believe American troops are able to track down Taliban members using their cellphones."

I'm sure those companies who have physical, and known locations will get on that ASAP.

obvious (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22559066)

Or...they could just turn their phone off.

DIAL MYCROFTXXX... (5, Insightful)

Phil-14 (1277) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559074)

It occurs to me that in a country like Afghanistan, which like most developing countries these days has better cell infrastructure than landline infrastructure, cellphones may be the _only_ way of calling the local police to say the Taliban are attacking you.

Re:DIAL MYCROFTXXX... (5, Insightful)

edward2020 (985450) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559342)

lol, the local police. Pres. Karzai is more like the mayor of Kabul. In a country like that which totally lacks any rule of law, I wouldn't doubt that the police (if there are any outside the capital) may be just as bad as the warlords or the Taliban.

and also that (5, Insightful)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559650)

anything that is landline based is usually blown to smithereens in the prolonged effort to keep the people of afghanistan in the middle ages, where the ideology of the taliban actually works

Ha Ha (1)

jimbobborg (128330) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559076)

You have got to be kidding. Did they just now figure this out? Or did a member of the press feel the need to point this out, just like when someone printed the article that the US was eavesdropping on OBL on his unencrypted satellite phone?

This made me laugh! (4, Funny)

Ynsats (922697) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559086)

This news story essentially amounts to the Taliban crying "C'mon guys! Play fair!"

Don't get me wrong, the news story is quite legit, it just sounds like the kids playing cowboys and indians in the playground.

Re:This made me laugh! (2, Informative)

Computershack (1143409) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559282)

Reminds me of the IRA who said they were a legitimate force fighting a war against the British then bitched and whined to the EU courts when the British Army carried out a strong of very successful ambushes on them using GPMGs (M60 equivalent) saying it was unfair.

Stupid (1, Flamebait)

GrassIsRed (1181869) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559092)

Wow these guys are stupid. Just turn off the damn phone. Oh yeah it requires stupidity to be a religious extremist.

Re:Stupid (5, Informative)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559298)

Wow these guys are stupid. Just turn off the damn phone.

Wrong. They can track it even when it's off. They can even use it as an eavesdropping device, when it's off. Google "roving bug"...

Take out the battery.

Re:Stupid (2, Interesting)

Firehed (942385) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559574)

Has that ever been proven? Seems to me that the idea is just some conspiracy theory someone came up with for whatever reason - probably as an excuse to not get his daughter a cell phone.

It's not like I have cell signal when my phone is on anyways, let alone while it's off. I'm generally labeled as a conspiracy theorist, but this whole idea of always-recording-your-every-word cell phones seems a bit far-fetched, especially given the general incompetence of those in the cellular industry.

lag (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22559110)

The network lag for their road-side bombs was un-acceptable.

This is a good first step. (4, Funny)

brennanw (5761) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559112)

Next, they'll get the phone companies to give them the phone records of all Afghani citizens who may be saying mean things about the Taliban. That's when we'll know the Taliban are on their way to becoming a full-fledged modern democracy like us.

By "us," of course... (1)

brennanw (5761) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559216)

... I mean people living in the United States. I still occasionally suffer from the conceit that everyone who reads the same web site I do is obviously from the same country.

Re:By "us," of course... (1)

huckamania (533052) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559406)

I don't think the phone companies keep transcripts of you calls and probably don't keep track of who you are saying mean things about.

Besides, the mark of a true democracy is when the phone companies are given retroactive immunity by the group that is supposed to be keeping a check and balance on things.

Re:By "us," of course... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22559514)

Sure, but that's why "United States" contracts to "us" - the rest of us English-speaking countries just pretend it's bad capitalisation.

My first First Post (1)

denobug (753200) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559130)

Seriously, does Taliban expect a business to bend over and get ass-f*cked by them, knowing that if they came in power they will cease to be in business anyway? At least there are "business activities", even by Taliban, at this moment of time.

Re:My first First Post (1)

Steauengeglase (512315) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559316)

Yes, they do. If not they aren't responsible for someone blowing up the infrastructure/offices and "accidentally" raping and murdering your family for whatever heresy someone might just have felt like cooking up. This is real politic, not angry letters to city hall.

Good Luck (5, Funny)

Bullfish (858648) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559132)

Cell phone companies don't pay any heed to anyone. I suspect this ridiculous plea will get the same attention as someone wanting a fairer contract.

Re:Good Luck (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559502)

Cell phone companies don't pay any heed to anyone.

Well, the people in this case giving the "or else" might just start blowing up cell towers or kidnapping company officials.

The Taliban isn't asking with a "please", they might get noticed.


Re:Good Luck (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559644)

If you started kidnapping and killing your phone company employees and their family, along with bombing the cell towers, I bet you could get their attention.

pfft... (1)

djupedal (584558) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559140)

The cell network is one of the more low-tech surveillance methods available to the US military/CIA...knock y'self out - the demand is perhaps more to inhibit local/individual freedoms/communications and insure continued fear-based controls more than it is a 'militia' concern.

Am I the only person who... (1)

mckinnsb (984522) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559142)

...thinks these leaders are total dumbasses for not telling their members to shut off their own phones during 5pm and 7am? Oh wait, and they are using *cellphones?* For their operations? And shutting them off is going to help them...how?

Huh? (4, Funny)

PontifexMaximus (181529) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559144)

Okay, I MUST be missing something. They want cell phone providers to cease service between 7pm and 5am because the Americans can track them when they are using their cell phones? WTF? If they can do it between those hours, don't you FREAKING THINK THEY CAN OUTSIDE THOSE HOURS? Idiots. Well that just proves right there those dillholes don't know shit about technology. There's nothing better than a group who wants to keep their people in the Dark Ages.

Oh, hello, Congress. I didn't see you standing there. I was talking about the Taliban, not you. You guys are doing one hell of a bang up job in DC. Honest.

Re:Huh? (4, Funny)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559206)

No, the tracking technology only works at night... because most of the attacks are at night. The fact that US troops are probably using their night vision equipment to gain an advantage over them at night has NOTHING to do with it.

Re:Huh? (1)

Jasin Natael (14968) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559440)

Maybe it's because the other citizens are phoning in tips about the Taliban's operations during non-work hours. If people plainly see a lynch mob forming in their neighborhood, I'm sure a fair number would try to stop it. If the cell network is down, though, and the Taliban wants to go door-to-door torturing people without victims / neighbors calling for help (or to warn each other), this would certainly further their cause.

I'm pretty sure that the Taliban members' own phones aren't the only part of their motivation, or even the larger part.

Re:Huh? (1)

Harin_Teb (1005123) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559550)

I would guess what they are actually thinking is American forces can track them using some form of Uber-1337 reverse GPS upload deal where they can see where the Taliban is moving based on the movements of their cellphones. IE they have a cool map with glowing red dots showing "this cell phone is moving along this ridge" or something similar.

This way they could move during those two hours and not be tracked... of course this doesn't make much sense either becuase they could always just turn their phones off and voila! no tracking...

Cheap ass U.S. government (5, Funny)

Zygote-IC- (512412) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559150)

Come on feds, spend the extra little bit of money and track these guys using something other than your unlimited "Nights and Weekends."

Re:Cheap ass U.S. government (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22559430)

"Come on feds, spend the extra little bit of money..."

No kidding, a $170 Billion war budget should get you something without asking for more.

The real reason... (4, Funny)

hilather (1079603) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559166)

Since the invasion, residents of Afghanistan have been recieving an increasingly alarming amount of American telemarketing calls.

Quick! Someone tag it with "religionofpeace"! (0, Flamebait)

Reality Master 201 (578873) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559228)

That way we can paint the whole Muslim world as being represented by the crazy activites of a small number of radicals.

Then someone can post a response to me and inform me that Islam is evil!

Yay! Slashbigots!

Re:Quick! Someone tag it QWZX (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22559410)

I suggest reading this site [thereligionofpeace.com] . Not all Muslims are radical crazies, but it's also not true that the religion has nothing to do with making certain elements radical crazies. Islam needs to learn tolerance, not the other way around.

Re:Quick! Someone tag it with "religionofpeace"! (2, Funny)

neoform (551705) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559452)

Better yet, don't identify yourself as being a Muslim who is against these 'radicals' and instead pan everyone else for stating what is obvious to them, islam is not a 'religion of peace'.

Re:Quick! Someone tag it with "religionofpeace"! (1)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559536)

Islam in and of itself is not evil, I have a copy of the Quaran sitting right here on my desk. But like most any religon, yes it does indeed lead to so called 'evil' behavior. Them damn 'people of the book' [wikipedia.org] need to be set the fuck straight and all.

Re:Quick! Someone tag it with "religionofpeace"! (1)

Harin_Teb (1005123) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559610)


Islam is evil. The more you know!

(sorry. I had to do it. Please forgive me.)

the muslim world (5, Insightful)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559616)

needs to control their radicals. of course the majority of muslims are moderate. but if their radicals are allowed free reign, the muslim world invites deserved criticism

the usa gets plenty of criticism for its actions in the world. much of it deserved. do you think the usa deserves no criticism? of course you don't

so, in the spirit of an open mind, you accept that the muslim world deserves criticism as well

there are some xenophobic bigots who are doing the criticism of the muslim world, yes. there are also some mindless bigots criticizing the usa

the point is, the existence of these bigots does not mean that all criticism of the muslim world, or criticism of the usa, is simple bigotry or without merit

so if you dismiss all criticism of the muslim world out of hand, simply because you think it is all bigotry, it is you, as well as the bigots, with a closed, simple partisan kneejerk mind

Re:Quick! Someone tag it with "religionofpeace"! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22559656)

You must be new here. Everyone knows Islam is evil. EVIL I say!!!

Brings a whole new meaning to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22559274)

Brings a whole new meaning to...

"Reach out and touch someone" ;-)

If we are doing this, it'd be great if we'd ring um just as the bomb was about to hit, with a recording of that song ;-)

(wonders if he's the only one here old nuf to remember that annoying ad)

Disrupting Communications (5, Insightful)

bannerman (60282) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559300)

Their goal is obviously to disrupt communications, not to avoid being tracked. If they knew we were using their phones to track them, they could use that as an advantage to setup traps and make us confident of their whereabouts. They could always just remove the batteries or stuff the phone in a lead box or whatever. If you can't call for help it makes the decision to resist or just do whatever these psychopaths want a much simpler one.

Pssssst... Taliban... (1)

ThousandStars (556222) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559348)

Here's a hint: if you turn your cell phone off, no one can find you. Furthermore, if you're still paranoid, you can always leave it at home, or in your cave, or whatever.

If you're still more paranoid, you can wrap tinfoil around your cell phone and head. If you need instructions as to how that should be done, this forum is an excellent place to find individuals with enormous experience.

too bad it'll make them more easily tracked (4, Informative)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559390)

they believe American troops are able to track down Taliban members using their cellphones.

Too bad it'll make all their cell phones transmit MORE, looking for said shut down towers- when a cell can't reach a tower, not only does it try to reconnect more often, but it also bumps up the transmit power.

That makes the cell phone a whole lot easier to find...and kills everyone's batteries...

It's to disrupt US comms (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22559394)

I think a lot of people here are missing the point - they don't want to turn the towers off to stop their cellphones being tracked, they want to turn them off to disrupt US communications during night hours.

They obviously think the army is relying heavily on cell phones for communication since all their equipment is broken, rubbish or missing - they are probably right, so turning the towers off would disrupt operations against them.

Next they'll want immunity... (3, Funny)

John3 (85454) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559414)

Next thing you know the Taliban will demand immunity from lawsuits arising from damage or injuries caused by the cell service being shut down.

Turn the phone off? (1)

cgitz (1098047) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559416)

Overkill response: we're worried about being tracked so we should shut down the whole network every night.

Intelligent response: we're worried about being tracked so we should turn off the phone.

oo.. i love wikipedia.. (1)

newbie56k (1245896) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559424)

Cell phone tracking tracks the current position of a cell phone. To locate the phone, it must be turned on but does not require an active call. GSM localisation is then done by triangulation based on the signal strength to nearby signal masts.[1] In order to route calls to your phone the cell towers listen for a signal sent from the phone and negotiate which tower is best able to communicate with the phone. As the phone changes location, the towers monitor the signal and the phone is switched to a different tower as appropriate. By comparing the relative signal strength from multiple towers a general location of a phone can be determined. A phone's location can be uploaded to a common web site where your "friends and family" can view your last reported position. Newer phones may or may not have built-in GPS receivers which could be used in a similar fashion, but with much higher accuracy. Some newer phones and technology may also allow the tracking of the phone even when turned off or, at least, have the microphone activated.[2] Also, phones can have secondary batteries installed to allow tracking even if the battery is removed. ------ So, even if you turn your cell phone is off or remove batteries they (or you) can still be tracked.

Don't do it!!! (1)

kpainter (901021) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559434)

If this demand is successful, the next thing they will want is to turn the clock back a thousand years! Oh, wait...

Their reason is... (1)

Mubarmij (176563) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559468)

According to Al Jazeera, their reason is that the Americans are using cellular footprints to track and attach them at night (?).

As other posters stated, mobile phones are the sole communication tool there.. and Taliban are among the users. They must have a military reason to try to enforce this demand.

To Paraphrase This: (1)

florescent_beige (608235) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559488)

The Taliban say: "Help us to hide so we may launch sneak attacks on you. If you don't do this, we will launch sneak attacks on you."

Nice demand geniuses. I can think of no better use for the phrase "How about 'no' you crazy bastards?"

(picture of the Prophet Mohammed)

Gazing into my TinFoil Ball... (1)

hanshotfirst (851936) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559500)

Nah, they're in collusion with the cell phone providers to take away free ANYTIME minutes overnight and blame the US government. If it works there, look for this to come here under the guise of protection from warrantless cellphone-tapping.

MacGuffin (1)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559512)

The whole, "US may be tracking us," is just a MacGuffin. The reality is their teen's texting charges are flat out killing them. Why do you think they only want the phones on during school hours? Coincedence? Ha! I think not.

TFA (1)

chromeshadow (1211190) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559590)

Reading TFA (what there is of it) suggests another interpretation: that the coalition forces are using mobile phones when they attack, mostly at night. That is, it isn't the Taliban use of phones which is the issue, it's the occupation forces'. Not saying it makes much more sense...

Comply or else! (1)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559642)

If we don't comply they'll attack us again!

Don't forget Pakistan. We have to shut off cell phone service there too. After all, most of the Taliban is with our "friends" in Pakistan.


This is our enemy? (0, Offtopic)

Rampantbaboon (946107) | more than 6 years ago | (#22559680)

If you want a real reason why Iraq troop levels are bad. The fact that we cannot defeat an orginization of idiots like this is proof enough.
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