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Family Guy Spins off Cleveland

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 6 years ago | from the whens-it-gonna-be-my-turn dept.

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E Online is reporting that a new spinoff is currently in the works to feature Cleveland, the soft-spoken neighbor in popular animated sitcom Family Guy. "Not much is known about Cleveland other than the fact it will revolve around the Brown clan. It's unclear whether the series will remain set in the town of Quahog or whether Cleveland, along with his wife and son, will continue to appear on Family Guy, though as both series are animated, the double-billing won't so much be a logistical problem as a creative decision."

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Why? (5, Insightful)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606390)

Why Cleveland? Why not Quagmire (Cleveland's wife agrees) or any of the other more interesting characters? When I hear Cleveland, I just want to go to sleep until I hear a "Diggity".

Re:Why? (1)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606434)

I bet every voice will be Seth MacFarlane like American Dad..

Re:Why? (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607078)

"I bet every voice will be Seth MacFarlane like American Dad.."

Of course! That's called job security. Can't outsource voice-overs to India.

Re:Why? (5, Funny)

Keith Russell (4440) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607090)

Can't outsource voice-overs to India.

At least until The Simpsons spin off Apu.

Re:Why? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606456)

It's Giggity. Are you sure you watch the show?

Re:Why? (2, Funny)

djupedal (584558) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606808)

It's Giggity.

Waltrip - NASCAR - ring a bell? Maybe the op sleeps until the race starts on Sunday...

Re:Why? (1)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607056)

The race is on before Family Guy.

Re:Why? (3, Insightful)

spun (1352) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606524)

Why Cleveland? Why not Quagmire (Cleveland's wife agrees) or any of the other more interesting characters? When I hear Cleveland, I just want to go to sleep until I hear a "Diggity".
I agree, almost anyone but Cleveland would be more interesting. Just as long as it's not Herbert. [wikipedia.org]

Re:Why? (4, Insightful)

LighterShadeOfBlack (1011407) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606528)

Quagmire's too gimmicky to be a main character. As a recurring secondary character the jokes work fine, but if you had them constantly for 22 minutes per show it'd grow old fast.

Re:Why? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606714)

the jokes work fine, but if you had them constantly for 22 minutes per show it'd grow old fast.
So, pretty much like all the other jokes on Family Guy?

Re:Why? (4, Insightful)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606652)

Why Cleveland? Why not Quagmire (Cleveland's wife agrees) or any of the other more interesting characters? When I hear Cleveland, I just want to go to sleep until I hear a "Diggity".
Giggity, man, giggity! Man, if this were a Star Trek reference you mucked up, you'd be eaten alive.

You FAIL! (1, Informative)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606950)

Meg (as she walks in on him):- Oh my god Mr. Quagmire, I'm so sorry
Quagmire: hey that's all right Meg, you probably bought me three more minutes, ohhhh riiiiight giggity diggity giggity!

He says both.

Re:You FAIL! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22607180)

His catch phrase is Giggty you dumb fucking piece of ajois;kjlasdkjlafhjksdflhjdlhsgf;gnm,jn DIEDIEDIE!!!!

Re:Why? (1)

Daimanta (1140543) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607060)

Yeah mean, bif hon and krosper.

Ollie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606658)

WE WANT OLLIE!

Re:Why? (5, Interesting)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606678)

I say why a spin-off at all?

And the answer is because Fox Broadcasting is run by clinical retards (no offense to anyone who is or is related to an actual retarded person, as you or they are probably vastly overqualified to run Fox).

Seriously, first they dick around with Family Guy's time slot enough that nobody knows when its on, it gets bad ratings, so they cancel it. Then the simians (apologies to monkeys) realize they were flushing a heap of cash down the toilet when the DVD sales were through the roof. So they brought it back, and hey, if a little Seth McFarlane humor is good, more is better, so let's make American Dad too! And hey that's not doing bad so let's go for broke and make a third show that's essentially the same!

I bet once they've saturated the market (more), the spin-offs won't do so well and they'll start screwing around with the scheduling of all three shows until they've once again convinced themselves they aren't worth it and shit-can the lot.

And it isn't like they haven't screwed up plenty of shows before like this *cough*Futurama*cough*Firefly*cough* Personally I think the only thing they ever had going for them is that they'd air shows other networks wouldn't take a chance on, and the only reason they had their early hits of The Simpsons and Married With Children is because back then they were so starved for content they simply didn't have the capacity to screw up those shows.

Anyway, I think pretty much any Family Guy spinoff is doomed to failure, whether it's Cleveland or Quagmire or Meg for that matter (oh hey, they have a Mike Judge show, maybe a Family Guy/Daria crossover! where's my money, Fox?!)

Re:Why? (1)

kesuki (321456) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606910)

i think fox is run by the guy who kept changing the time slot of 'quantum leap' over on another network that's done this kinda ridiculous stuff before...

i mean naruto and bleach don't have to deal with stuff like this, the only time slot changes are special 1 hour episodes, and of course when naruto went from the evening to prime time.

Smallville fortunately has never had it's time slot played with, as best as i can remember neither cheers nor star trek the next generation had to deal with the 'time slot shuffle'

the time slot shuffle usually kills off a show, and to be totally honest internal network politics is the most likely reason why stupid networks kill off profitable shows. 'oh you cant kiss the butt of the president of this network then Die' is what i imagine something like what happens when a show can't contractually be canceled, but they want it to suffer bad enough that can cancel it at the next option to do so..

Re:Why? (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607040)

I thought Next Generation went from thursday nights to Sunday nights? Or was it only Sunday nights? I think I was in 6th grade when they aired the final episode so it's been a while.

Re:Why? (4, Funny)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607114)

i think fox is run by the guy who kept changing the time slot of 'quantum leap' over on another network that's done this kinda ridiculous stuff before...
Y'know, fans of Quantum Leap of all shows should expect and even appreciate that kind of thing.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606998)

American Dad was in production after the initial cancellation of Family Guy, and was more Fox's way of partially pulling their head out of their ass by asking him to basically re-create Family Guy, anyone who has seen the pilot of American Dad can attest to this, before they fully removed it by bringing back Family Guy.

Personally Family Guy jumped the shark around the period between seasons five and the movie. Since South Park called it out for what it is, McFarlane really hasn't tried to do anything funny aside from jokes the grow unfunny the longer they go on (the musical numbers that go on for 3-5 minutes).

American Dad has actually better better and shown more depth in the seasons it has been around than Family Guy after it's demise.

Re:Why? (1)

zoltankemeny (1217722) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607032)

Don't forget Arrested Development!

Re:Why? (4, Funny)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607074)

nd the answer is because Fox Broadcasting is run by clinical retards (no offense to anyone who is or is related to an actual retarded person, as you or they are probably vastly overqualified to run Fox).
Now-Now. They are not completely worthless. Why just look at Torgo's Executive Powder [wikipedia.org] . Now there is a good use!

Re:Why? (1)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607096)

Um...That's what Tivo is for. I don't know what day/time anything airs anymore. I just watch what I feel like watching when I feel like watching it.

Re:Why? (1)

xSauronx (608805) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607208)

I just dont watch. Theres very little TV i enjoy, and Im a busy person with school, kids and a job to deal with. If I had a tivo id never get a god damn thing done :-/

Pity, as theres a few things id love to see regularly, but I just dont have the time. /netflix is my saviour

Re:Why? (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607164)

To be fair to Fox, it isn't all the likely that Firefly ever would have gotten ratings high enough to justify its production costs compared to the ratings that they can get with a much cheaper show(something like 1/2 the ratings at 1/10 the cost if that wasn't clear).

Re:Why? (2, Interesting)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606730)

Why Cleveland? Why not Quagmire (Cleveland's wife agrees) or any of the other more interesting characters?
Because most of the other characters already have their place in the shows cannon, they are well established features that are nothing in and of themselves but when taken as a whole with the griffin family the create family guy. Cleveland is unique in the fact not much is set in stone about him, he isn't a sex offender, he isn't a cop with something to prove due to physical short comings. He is somewhat like mort, I can understand why the chose Cleveland as he is one of the more major characters yet has little established about him other than, he has a son we haven't seen in some time, a wife that left him, and a speech impediment due to a head injury. He was once an auctioneer. It seems that as one of the major minor characters, with little explained or developed about him (other than his mild-mannerness (is that word?)) he has the most popularity and greatest potential in regards to character development.

Just my 0.02

When I hear Cleveland, I just want to go to sleep until I hear a "Diggity".
I am sorry you feel that way, I don't have cable. I buy seasons on dvd, so I have watched the series more than most, and in my opinion Quagmire is one of the most shallow one dimensional characters in the series. Granted I love the guy, I love any sexually oriented humor that continues to push the boundaries on broadcast television. But his jokes are generally in your face and lack the nuances alot of the episodes/other characters tend to provide, which can only really be rivaled by Arrested Development. Another show I watch, over and over.

Re:Why? (5, Funny)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606884)

I am sorry you feel that way, I don't have cable. I buy seasons on dvd, so I have watched the series more than most, and in my opinion Quagmire is one of the most shallow one dimensional characters in the series. Granted I love the guy, I love any sexually oriented humor that continues to push the boundaries on broadcast television. But his jokes are generally in your face and lack the nuances alot of the episodes/other characters tend to provide, which can only really be rivaled by Arrested Development. Another show I watch, over and over.


"Nuanced" is not a word I would apply to Family Guy's humor.

Re:Why? (1)

Your.Master (1088569) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606980)

I'm not sure we "know" he was once an auctioneer anymore than we "know" that Peter's shoulder-angel has its own shoulder-devil and shoulder-angel.

Re:Why? (1)

NoobixCube (1133473) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607046)

If they have a place in the show's "cannon", they will soon be fired. I think you meant canon :P. Don't mind me... Grammar-nazi...

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606936)

Black History Month maybe???

Re:Why? (3, Insightful)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607034)

Because Cleveland's the straight-man, and thus probably the best character to base a show around.

Let me be the first to say (5, Insightful)

moderatorrater (1095745) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606394)

How is this news for nerds or stuff that matters? It's worthless drivel like this that drags the whole site down!

And, because I seriously hate people who say that shit, I'm going to point out that cartoon network's adult swim (which brought the show back from the dead) is largely viewed by nerds, and adult animation is mostly enjoyed by nerds, and dammit, it's a good show.

However, I do hope that it's not just another family guy clone like American Dad. Seriously, why not just do 3x as many family guy episodes and not have american dad or this new cleveland one?

Re:Let me be the first to say (5, Interesting)

lazy_nihilist (1220868) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606436)

Even better, more futurama.

Good news, everyone!

Re:Let me be the first to say (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606448)

Once you've seen 5 Family Guy episodes you've seen them all... and it gets tiring, just like any other show which continuously uses the same elements (flashbacks, apparently random scenes, I'm looking at you). All of the Adult Swim lineup seem to condense a lethal dose of these types of things into the shows, which makes me wonder why people still like it?

Re:Let me be the first to say (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607072)

It's a clip show format, like SNL, but a smaller, more static cast. Sometimes the clips last longer than 30 seconds, but usually then it's for effect, like fighting with that chicken for 3-4 minutes straight. If you don't like clip shows, might I recommend (the canceled) Studio 60, The West Wing, or most anything on HBO? Family guy is not about character or plot development.

Re:Let me be the first to say (2, Interesting)

countSudoku() (1047544) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606548)

Mod that comment to on-topic please. This is certainly the place to voice your concerns about this crap show and question why anyone thinks this is news for nerds. South Park and Simpsons wipe their asses with the Family Guy scripts. Was that too strong? Seriously, FG is not that clever or funny, unless you're a complete idiot, then you might actually enjoy it greatly. Sorry about you being an idiot though. No offense was meant. Maybe read some more. It helps.

Re:Let me be the first to say (2, Interesting)

KublaiKhan (522918) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606564)

Not everything has to be cerebral. Sometimes it's nice to take a few drinks of something high proof, sit back, and enjoy a few dumb laughs.

Besides, the concept of the evil genius toddler amuses me.

Re:Let me be the first to say (2, Funny)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606644)

South Park and Simpsons wipe their asses with the Family Guy scripts. Was that too strong? Seriously, FG is not that clever or funny, unless you're a complete idiot, then you might actually enjoy it greatly. Sorry about you being an idiot though. No offense was meant. Maybe read some more. It helps.
It was a LOT better before the manatees went on strike. No one can get too much of Mohamed Salmon Helmets!

Re:Let me be the first to say (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606732)

Maybe if you were to read a little more, you'd be able to come up with a valid criticism of a TV show, or at least a mildly competent insult.

But we both know you'll never do that.

Re:Let me be the first to say (1)

DarkOx (621550) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606778)

"The Simpsons" are your for real? That show has been hit and miss for the last 8 years or so. It holds its viewership today because its more of an Institution then anything else. Honestly "The Simpsions" deliver some great stuff even today but its few and far between. It was much more inteligent in pre 2000 or there abouts then it is today. Mostly its the same tired jokes over and over again now, with names replace with whatever is popular this week, often these jokes don't even really fit anymore.

I still watch but its not what it used be. "Family Guy" and "American Dad" are at least IMO as strong as the "Simpsons" and that is not saying much. Frankly I have been much more impressed with the Live action Comedy CBS and expecially NBC have been doing lately. Fox has lost its edge.

Re:Let me be the first to say (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22607064)

The Simpsons still has its moments, but South Park hasn't been funny ever since they degenerated into making every single episode a tediously drawn out morality play. All three of these shows have been going downhill for years, but I have to say South Park went the fastest.

I'm not sure why you think that either of those shows is more sophisticated than Family Guy. They all rely on the same sorts of humor, just in slightly different proportions.

Re:Let me be the first to say (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607100)

South park pisses me off with it's "never understand the issues and never dig deeper" libertarian attitude towards life.

Seriously, ManBearPig? You're going to make fun of Al Gore for being an advocate for something he's been an advocate for since the 70's and 80s?(or just 80s? I can't remember).

Re:Let me be the first to say (1, Flamebait)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607124)

You would be right if south park didn't suck. It's juvenile humor for juvenile minds. Certainly not for nerds.

Hey I know, lets have a talking turd, that's intelligent and something to think about.
Cheap shock humor.

All this coming from a guy who thinks Sodoku is a challenge.

Re:Let me be the first to say (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606556)

Family Guy is worthless crap that drags all of Adult Swim down.

Adult animation I'm in favor of. Good shows I'm in favor of. If Family Guy was either of these things, I'd be first in line saying what a great thing it was. Unfortunately it's not.

I do hope that it's not just another clone show like American Dad or Family Guy. Seriously, why not save money by just remixing the existing episodes randomly (to create the necessary non sequitur flashbacks) and replaying them every night?

Re:Let me be the first to say (4, Insightful)

garett_spencley (193892) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606560)

Say what you want about American Dad but when a series casts Patrick Stewart as a hooker-murdering CIA director it's impossible to not like it.

Re:Let me be the first to say (1)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607132)

I was beginning to think I was the only one here that not only watches American Dad, but enjoys it. It is clearly Seth's brand of humor, but unlike Family Guy, it has its subtle moments, and there is some actual character development as the series goes. Aside from the humor, I like watching Haley battle her need to be practical with her desire to be a far-left feminist.

Early comment from Cleveland... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606406)

Cleveland's comment about the new show:

Oh, Peter, I don't know about this.

Cool... (3, Funny)

owlnation (858981) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606416)

... hopefully the spin-off features original characters, concepts and comedy. Or does this spin-off involve a robot, and one-eye girl, a lobster guy and a elderly professor?

I for one (2, Funny)

Gat0r30y (957941) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606420)

Hope this series focus' on Cleveland's previous occupation as an accomplished auctioneer. Going Once... Going Twice... Its friday and i'm going home!

Another suckfest? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606422)

Like American Dad?

Come on, these types of spinoffs rarely work out (what, like 2 or 3 shows have been able to do this in 50 years).

Re:Another suckfest? (1)

Myopic (18616) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606478)

That's true. It's rare for a spinoff to work well, but there are some excellent examples. "Frasier" was never my favorite show, but it was a huge success that won a lot of awards. I can't think of any other examples of good spinoffs, but I can think of a few bad spinoffs.

I'm willing to give this one a chance if it is made by the same funny guys as the original.

Re:Another suckfest? (1)

jsheedy (772604) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606538)

That's true. It's rare for a spinoff to work well, but there are some excellent examples. "Frasier" was never my favorite show, but it was a huge success that won a lot of awards. I can't think of any other examples of good spinoffs, but I can think of a few bad spinoffs.

I can think of two older ones from the same show. Laverne and Shirley, and Mork and Mindy. They were both spinoffs of Happy Days.

Re:Another suckfest? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606594)

as was Joanie Love Chachie

A spin off is neither good or bad, it's the acting and writing. Just like ANY show.

Re:Another suckfest? (1)

cbart387 (1192883) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606746)

The Simpsons was spun from the Tracy Ullman Show (can't forget that if you're discussing Family Guy).

Re:Another suckfest? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606978)

It wasn't a spin-off, it was The Simpsons even when it was aired during Tracy Ullman. It was the same show.

Re:Another suckfest? (1)

Gutboy (587531) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606906)

The Jeffersons and Maude were both spinoffs from All in the Family.

Warming up to American Dad (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606664)

I know it seems a sad ripoff of Family Guy (talking dog=talking fish, etc) and the first several American Dad episodes wern't anywhere near as sharp as the new ones, the show has grown on me and gotten sharper. We get the know the characters and backgrounds along with the writers getting sharper and sharper.

Go pull the first volume of Family Guy and you can see it is nowhere near as sharp as it got in the 2nd season and above. It had all the elements we love, but it only delivered 10-25% of the time. I feel American Dad took time to get up to speed, and I'm finding it fit into Seth's universe quite nicely.

Felt the same way on the first couple of episodes of Futurama. Felt is was a sad follow-up to the fading Simpsons. Now it stands up quite well.

The character's name is "Cleveland Brown" (1)

holden caufield (111364) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606438)

That's comedy gold right there.

Giggity Goo! (1)

illumin8 (148082) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606440)

Where the hell is my Quagmire spinoff?

Giggity giggity goo! Alllright!

Trolling motor... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606472)

set to cruise.

You've gotta be kidding me (3, Insightful)

jez9999 (618189) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606474)

Cleveland is the most tedious, annoying character in the WHOLE of Family Guy. Well, at least maybe they can take Cleveland out of Family Guy now so we can concentrate all the crap of his storyline into this one and ignore it. :-)

Re:You've gotta be kidding me (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606566)

He has more depth then Quagmire, and he has a lot more potential the Joe.

A road trip with Stewie and the Evil Monkey might be cool.

Family guy sucks (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606480)

Unless you're a fan of crypto-racism. Seriously, who watches that show? The fact that it's on the air makes me worried about the size of the American white supremacist movement.

Here's a clue: Go back 150 years and Peter Griffen would be the butt of all those not-so-subtle racial sterotypes (he's of the Irish - the erstwhile niggers of Europe).

All power to the Simpsons in rerun and South Park. Also, Metalocalyse. Down with Family Guy and all other Seth MacFarlane creations.

Re:Family guy sucks (5, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606842)

What the fuck? You don't see any racist jokes in south park or simpsons? What is Apu? What is Token? What was chef?

I guess you don't get the idea of comedy bringing socially taboo topics into the limelight, and the very fact that a joke can be offensive and funny at the same time allows us to learn a little something about society.

It's attitudes like yours that divide us along racial lines. Shows like Chappelle's show, South Park and Family Guy bring us together by mockery of stereotypes, not by reinforcing them.

mod parent up (1)

Doug Neal (195160) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606898)

What the fuck? You don't see any racist jokes in south park or simpsons? What is Apu? What is Token? What was chef?

I guess you don't get the idea of comedy bringing socially taboo topics into the limelight, and the very fact that a joke can be offensive and funny at the same time allows us to learn a little something about society.

It's attitudes like yours that divide us along racial lines. Shows like Chappelle's show, South Park and Family Guy bring us together by mockery of stereotypes, not by reinforcing them.
Seriously, why is this at -1 while the GP is at 1, Interesting?

Good post.

Re:Family guy sucks (5, Funny)

poot_rootbeer (188613) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607080)

You don't see any racist jokes in south park or simpsons? What is Apu?

Besides the most visible, and most respectfully written, Hindu character in mainstream American television?

Re:Family guy sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606892)

Yes, because non-politically correct humor is the cancer that is killing the youth of USA.

This is exactly why MacFarlane's shows are good - they parody the harsh reality. Thanks to them, we can see what is basically wrong with today's society without all that "be correct, be proper, be good" crap that other more serious shows try to feed us, PLUS wrapped around in some good old stupid, random and wacky gags/jokes. I personally view Family Guy as a show that tries to rope together all the different types of humor, so it appeals to different parts of your sense of humor.

Suck my balls, Jew! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606948)

You look down upon the "crypto-racism" of Family Guy, in the same posting touting SP or the Simpsons. Or the hate crimes against the Swedish of Dethklok. You make little sense.

And you must never watch Family Guy. The niggers of Europe are contantly ripped. The Irish discovering Alcohol to the downfall of their advanced society, the Irish museum animatrons poping out babies and slapping wifey. Peter's Irish-catholic father?

Re:Family guy sucks (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607086)

No no no, if you're going to troll properly, you have to use the right terminology; it's crypto-fascism. Jesus christ, n00b. Where's the troll-cyclopedia when you need one, to school these - literally - kids?

It worked for the Jeffersons. (5, Insightful)

BeeBeard (999187) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606494)

Most people familiar with their favorite couple who moved on up, to the East Side, and finally found their piece of the pie, aren't aware that the sitcom actually started as a spin-off of All in the Family, on which Family Guy is itself heavily based. Even the piano playing sequence at the beginning of Family Guy is a callback to the opening sequence of All in the Family.

Re:It worked for the Jeffersons. (1)

Wandering Wombat (531833) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606540)

But the Jeffersons were iconic. This is more comparable to that "Dynomiiiiiiiiiiite!" guy getting his own show.

Re:It worked for the Jeffersons. (1)

QRDeNameland (873957) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606894)

FWIW, the show the "Dynomiiiiiiiiiiite!" guy was on ("Good Times") was a spinoff of "Maude" (the mother, Florida, was Maude's maid), and "Maude" itself was a another spinoff of "All in the Family" (Maude being Edith Bunker's cousin, I believe).

Re:It worked for the Jeffersons. (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607098)

All In The Family was definitely a "diminishing returns" thing. There were a few spin-offs of it, the only one that was remotely funny was The Jeffersons. I think Bea Arthur is a funny lady, but Maude just never cut it. Gloria was a short-term joke (a Meathead spinoff would have been a lot more fun). Good Times tried to brave in showing a realistic 1970s black family, but the producers let that useless ham Jimmy Walker completely fuck it up. Archie's Place was sort of like watching an Olympic sprinter with one leg try to run the 100m dash; without Edith the character of Archie Bunker just didn't work.

Spinoffs by and large fail mainly because the chemistry of the successful parent show isn't there. You quickly find that the character you find funny or interesting is only that way because of the entire ensemble, and when taken out of that, it just flounders. Try to imagine any of the major Seinfeld characters out on their own. It would be unwatchable.

Re:It worked for the Jeffersons. (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606584)

Hah, not always [imdb.com] .

Re:It worked for the Jeffersons. (1)

glitch23 (557124) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606734)

Most people familiar with their favorite couple who moved on up, to the East Side, and finally found their piece of the pie, aren't aware that the sitcom actually started as a spin-off of All in the Family, on which Family Guy is itself heavily based. Even the piano playing sequence at the beginning of Family Guy is a callback to the opening sequence of All in the Family.

Yes, I miss the episodes of All in the Family where the greased up deaf guy runs across the stage or where Edith is shown many times naked or, the greatest ones are where Archie is naked multiple times in the same episode but you can't see anything besides a butt because he is so freaking fat. Ahh, the 70s.

Re:It worked for the Jeffersons. (2, Interesting)

fermion (181285) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606854)

Beyond the obvious similarities, the reason, IMHO, that The Jeffersons succeeded was because it was a significantly different show. As entertaining as MacFarlane is, he does not seem to anything other than family guy. American Dad, for instance, just is not that different, simply the same show with a plot instead of arbitrarily strung together jokes. Recall that "All in the family" had many spin off, some good, some not. In particular "Archie Bunker's Place", though successful, was pretty bad.

Re:It worked for the Jeffersons. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22607028)

And of course, "All in the Family" was a US remake of the BBC Programme "Til Death Us Do Part".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Till_Death_Us_Do_Part_(British_TV_series) [wikipedia.org]

We over here are still waiting to see if the networks will decide to remake The Mighty Boosh
for the US market.. mainly because the result is likely to be hilarious for all the wrong
reasons.

In case, you don't know : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mighty_Boosh [wikipedia.org]

When is /. going to spinoff ? (3, Funny)

garett_spencley (193892) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606526)

I've been waiting years for CowboyNealDot.

The Brown clan? What clan? (4, Interesting)

phillymjs (234426) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606532)

Unless it's a prequel of sorts, what clan are they talking about? Cleveland's wife left him, and his son hasn't been seen in who knows how long.

Re:The Brown clan? What clan? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606558)

"Cleveland's wife left him, and his son hasn't been seen in who knows how long."

And you see no story potential there?

Jeez, I hope you don't complain about Hollywood's 'lack of new ideas'

Re:The Brown clan? What clan? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606580)

I had forgotten Cleavland's last name was Brown and thought they meant the Brown Klan... maybe Cleavland is a closet racist or something...

Small Correction to the Summary (2, Informative)

mikee805 (1091195) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606612)

Cleveland doesnt have a wife they divorced after she slept with Quagmire http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0576966/plotsummary [imdb.com]

Re:Small Correction to the Summary (1)

matazar (1104563) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607038)

I was waiting for someone else to point this out. At first I was very confused.

spinoff??? (1)

logicassasin (318009) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606636)

Yeah... not seeing how this is gonna work.

We all remember "Joanie Loves Chachi", "Enos", "The Ropers", "Flo" (I may be the only human that remembers this pile), "After M*A*S*H", and that wretched Jeffersons spinoff "Checking In" (seriously, this sucks more than anything that has ever sucked before), and we all know how badly 99.999999999999999999999% of all spinoffs suck. So why, then, does Fox wish to taint the excellence that is Family Guy with a spinoff? And of Cleveland???!!! I'da figured Quagmire, but not mr "Hhhhheeeeeeeellooo Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeetaaaaah" Cleveland!

Re:spinoff??? (1)

Irish_Samurai (224931) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606954)

"Flo" (I may be the only human that remembers this pile)
You wanna compare archaic shitty spin off references? How about that pile of crap "Fish" spin off from "Barney Miller." There's some completely useless knowledge taking up brain space for you.

Re:spinoff??? (1)

The Good Reverend (84440) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606982)

we all know how badly 99.999999999999999999999% of all spinoffs suck.

Yeah, like Mork & Mindy (and Happy Days, really), Frasier, The Simpsons, Daria, All the new Trek shows, and Stargate: Atlantis, among others. Those all suck.

Wrong (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607008)

It's a lot, but there are also many notable successes.

If A spin off getsd treated like ti's own series, and is good on it's won merits it will succeed.
well, until Fox screw's around with it.

Makes no sense (0)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606646)

Cleveland is funny but only in a laid back and chilled contrast to the rest of the show, like pickled ginger between pieces of sushi. On his own, it just doesn't work. The only spin-off I can imagine that would be worse is giving the fucking pedophile his own show. That whole character is one giant "dude, not funny" [tvtropes.org] , but without even eliciting a guilty snicker.

I think the strongest characters on the show are Stewie, Brian, and Lois. Peter is too much of an idiot to be funny and both Meg and Chris are too one-note. The rest of the neighbors may be one-note but they still manage to be funny every time they toot it -- anything can be forgiven so long as it remains funny.

I'm glad both it and Futurama were uncanceled but what I'm really looking forward to is more Venture Bros. :)

I may be wrong but. ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22606758)

I could have sworn Stewey shot Cleveland dead when he was on his rampage after killing his mother on the Cruise ship.

As far as still appearing on Family Guy I think it depends on the contract they negotiate with him. He seems pretty laid back and I could see him not wanting the extra pressure of having to work more than one show. It can get confusing with the multiple story lines and all.

Re:I may be wrong but. ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22607172)

That entire storyline was a hypothetical experiment by Stewie.

Wheelie Time!!! (1)

aaronhaley (145305) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606764)

But no really, this is going to suck donkey balls. Who green lit this?! Oh evil monkey, you're the evilest!! Do we have a clip? no, oh. okay then.

seriously (1)

Some_Llama (763766) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606814)

Who the hell's cousing/nephew/son is Seth?

Why does this most mediocre of cartoon comedy flourish, with spin off after spin off when there are WAY better shows that could be given airtime (to see some watch adult swim on the cartoon network).

I just don't get it.. Family is ok, just ok, not even close to South park or futurama but it seems to be promoted and extended forever?

Family guy is like the middle manager who becomes CEO while the smart kid languishes in employee hell.

What's more troubling... (3, Insightful)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606840)

... is that I actually want to do Lois. Am I alone in this?

Re:What's more troubling... (1)

nebulus4 (799015) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607222)

What's more troubling is that I actually want to do Lois. Am I alone in this?

Hey! Whatever makes you happy *cough*, but I'm crossing my fingers for my roommate.

Darn (1)

Canosoup (1153521) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606938)

I thought they mean the one in Ohio

What a ripoff! (1)

Doug52392 (1094585) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606952)

You have got to be kidding me? Now we have 3 ripoffs of the same show? Wow, Fox is getting desperate to make up for EVERY SINGLE TV SHOW it cancels...

Fox made the Family Guy as a cheap Simpsons clone, and it became popular with teens (why teens? Because they will watch ANYTHING, look at horrible movies like Meet The Spartans). Then came American Dad, a ripoff of the Family Guy.

I love The Simpsons, but it is HARDLY ON anymore because stupid Fox feels the best show on their network should take back seat to a cheap ripoff show. I get 2 Fox channels, one from RI and one from MA. On the RI channel, the new lineup is: 6:30 and 7:30 Family Guy, and 1 Simpsons episode. Wtf??? It's a good thing I don't live in RI, then that would be my only option...

Fox is getting desperate to put out anything not reality related, the Terminator show is a golden example. They ran out of ideas, so they just copied from a dumb 90s movie!

This show will be canned after a few episodes (unless Fox goes after the teens that watch anything).

Oh, come on, you nerds. (1)

UncoolestDudeEver (1248796) | more than 6 years ago | (#22606958)

Can't you tell that this post is a joke, solely meant to rope you suckers in? A Family Guy spinoff featuring Cleveland????? Seriously, if any of you REALLY believed that, you are idiots.

I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE (3, Insightful)

florescent_beige (608235) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607188)

My apologies to all, I know this is bad form but here I go anyway...

A cartoon spinoff is news for nerds? Not even a science fiction cartoon?

The reason this bugs me is the last two stories I submitted were rejected. One about DARPA's oblique flying wing called Switchblade, and one about active sonic boom suppression on Gulfstream's supersonic business jet.

But a cartoon spinoff is more news worthy? I'm sorry, but this is shenanigans.

Re:I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#22607224)

I understand the family guy being here, what is unacceptable are the two you mention being rejected. It's not like they couldn't post all three.

The Family gyu has huge geek appeal.

Yeah, I know, this sight is supposed to be for nerds, but that went away years ago. N more ar the 300 posts discussing what you would need to make a light saber, complete with supporting math. Now it's 2600+the most mainstreem form of geek dome allowed.

I'm going to start my own nerd site, with blackjack..and hookers...oh, forget the blackjack and hookers.
Hey I AM a nerd you know.

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