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Acer Ferrari 1100, One Large Disappointment

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 6 years ago | from the resounding-thud dept.

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PC Magazine was finally able to get ahold of an Acer Ferrari 1100 to review, and the results are less than stellar. With complaints about the 12-inch screen that isn't even LED-back-lit, a large clunky design, and underwhelming performance, it seems that the only redeeming feature is the integrated, slot-loading DVD burner. "The Acer Ferrari 1100 would be more attractive if its price ($1,860) wasn't higher than that of the more aesthetically pleasing Apple MacBook Air ($1,799) or the ASUS U6S ($1,699). For those who passed on the first-edition Ferrari ultraportable because it lacked an optical drive, the 1100 now has one built in. But in a world consumed by miniaturization, it will have to shave off a bit of weight and improve its performance scores for it to compete with thoroughbreds like the Sony SZ791N, the Dell XPS M1330, and the Lenovo X61."

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This shouldn't be at all surprising (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22611766)

...after all, when did Acer built a decent product? They only spew out el cheapo crap that can barely pass the warranty without passing a couple of times through their repairmen.

Re:This shouldn't be at all surprising (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22611960)

Acer fanboi moderators in the hizzouse?

I was going to post something to the effect of "Since when was Acer ever synonymous with quality?" but my anonymous friend beat me to it. I see he's been appropriately rewarded for telling the truth, something which doesn't seem to be much appreciated here these days.

Re:This shouldn't be at all surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22612322)

Parent is not entirely without truth. My Acer does fun little things like shut down at random intervals and sometimes it won't turn back on until it darn well pleases. Some computers go into sleep mode, mine goes into coma mode. They're not the worst things out there, but I'm not surprised one bit that their new product is disappointing. Although, considering this one's screen isn't back lit, it probably is the worst thing out there. Really, not even backlit, that sounds like a really expensive paperweight to me.

Re:This shouldn't be at all surprising (3, Funny)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612638)

Really, not even backlit, that sounds like a really expensive paperweight to me.


It's not backlit by an LED, but there probably is a florescent bulb behind the screen

Re:This shouldn't be at all surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22612868)

Knowing Acer, there's probably a little candle behind the screen that you've got to keep lit.

Re:This shouldn't be at all surprising (1)

mikael (484) | more than 6 years ago | (#22613044)

That happens with my laptop (Sony Vaio) - for some time I had this battle where the system would state that the power cable had been disconnected and it was switching to battery power (even thought it was still plugged in). I would end up having the system remaining off for the entire evening. This always seemed to happen when the weather had suddenly become colder. I am not sure if this was a dodgy power supply voltage or whether the room was slightly colder. But shifting the power cable connector around a bit seemed to fix the problem. Maybe the temperature caused a heat expansion size mismatch between the socket and the connector.

Re:This shouldn't be at all surprising (1)

Grimbleton (1034446) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612376)

I have a cheap Acer WalMart special that has never given me a second of grief, and I've had it over a year now.

Re:This shouldn't be at all surprising (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 6 years ago | (#22613024)

I've had my Walmart Special Acer since September. Never had a problem with it. Probably one of the better laptops you could get for $500. Granted, if you run the stock Windows Vista that comes with it, it's slow as molasses in January, but if if you pop a nice Linux distro on it (Mandrive in my case) it becomes quite a good machine.

Re:This shouldn't be at all surprising (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22612808)

can barely pass the warranty without passing a couple of times through their repairmen.
Eww... do you mean they swallowed it? I wouldn't have thought the second repairman would go anywhere near it after it had "passed through" the first. :-6

Anyway, all this business of "spewing out" and "passing" computers makes Acer sound more like the successor to Tubgirl or something.

Pffft.... (2, Insightful)

canUbeleiveIT (787307) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611782)

it seems that the only redeeming feature is the integrated, slot-loading DVD burner.

My cheapie Gateway has that. I'm just sayin'...

Re:Pffft.... (1)

EVil Lawyer (947367) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612628)

But is your cheapie Gateway an ultraportable? The point is that slot-loading DVD burners are a rarity among the UMPC crowd.

We're no strangers to love (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22611788)

You know the rules and so do I
  A full commitment's what * I'm * [youtube.com]thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've know each other for so long
Your heart's been aching
But you're too shy to say it
Inside we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it
And if you ask me how I'm feeling
We're no strangers to love
Don't tell me you're too blind to see
give you up.
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I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand

at least it has a real video card unlike the $1500 (0, Flamebait)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611794)

at least it has a real video card unlike the $1500 mac book and $1700 mac book air.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (1)

ncryptd (1172815) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612106)

I'm not a fan of the MacBook Air -- but in all honesty, how many times have you been using a subportable only to think "Hmm... if only this thing had a better fill rate." The onboard chip supports PS 2.0, albeit slowly -- it's only a performance limitation, not a restriction on functionality.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (2, Informative)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612556)

PS 2.0?

Excuse me, but on MacOSX, we use openGL and fragment shaders. None of this DirectX stuff, thankyouverymuch.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (0, Flamebait)

Oktober Sunset (838224) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612162)

yea, but the cheaper Dell M1330 and the Sony Vaio SZ791N have better graphics and shit right in its face considering the price tag.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22612232)

Actually the ATI x1270 is a piece of crap and I wouldn't be surprised of the Intel x3100 performed as just as well or possibly better.

It doesn't really matter, you won't be playing games on any of those systems. Even the Nvidia 8400M would have a hard time running most games made within the past few years very well. Basically anything from Doom 3 through to Crysis will run like shit on all of those GPUs.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612750)

Actually the ATI x1270 is a piece of crap and I wouldn't be surprised of the Intel x3100 performed as just as well or possibly better.

The X3100 couldn't even run any of gaming benchmarks in the tests...

It doesn't really matter, you won't be playing games on any of those systems. Even the Nvidia 8400M would have a hard time running most games made within the past few years very well.

That misses the point - yes, they won't play the latest high-performance FPS games and so on, but people might still like to play older games (e.g., I only have the GMA 950 in my laptop, but I can still play a game like Morrowind - however, it runs better with a faster graphics card).

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22612896)

"It doesn't really matter, you won't be playing games on any of those systems. Even the Nvidia 8400M would have a hard time running most games made within the past few years very well."

That includes a game like Morrowind, which even ran poorly on a discrete Geforce 5600 (which could only manage to run it at 800x600 with FPS a lowly 15-30 range). I shudder to think how low you have to reduce details/draw distance and resolution to run Morrowind on your GMA 950 or the GPUs in those laptops.

If a game cannot achieve a minimum of 60fps at 1024x768 then it is thoroughly unplayable unless you like blocky slideshows.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 6 years ago | (#22613136)

also you are looking at a big ram hit when you are useing vista with on board video.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (2, Insightful)

TeknoHog (164938) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612324)

Yeah, I can't imagine why anyone would like integrated Intel graphics that have full opensource drivers available in your friendly neighbourhood distro.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22612576)

You're right, Linux users have a pretty strong reason to like Intel's integrated graphics solutions. The other 99.5% of the market, however, does not.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612990)

I got an Acer 3680 laptop for $500 last September. Quite a low end machine, but that's what I was looking for. It has Intel integerated graphics and works great with Compiz and Metisse. Much easier to get working than most other video cards in Linux.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (1)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612394)

$1500? The MacBook costs $1099.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 6 years ago | (#22613146)

The $1500 macbook black should have a real video card a NVIDIA® GeForceTM Go 8400M GS with 128MB DDR3 dedicated graphic memory or maybe 256 should work good.

Macbook Air's 4200rpm HDD (0, Troll)

nick_davison (217681) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612430)

The Air is lumbered with a 4200rpm drive.

If you're a fan of having your files emailed to you when the drive gets around to it, that's awesome. For everyone else, pretty much the only option is to upgrade to the solid state drive... at which point the price tag is massively higher.

Granted, the Acer only has a 5400rpm drive rather than an infinitely preferable 7200... and it certainly doesn't compete with the much faster solid state drive... but it's still a big step over the 4200.

Either way, the Air also comes with 2GB vs. 4GB of ram (still more than adequate right now but Moore's Law (yes, I know it's a semi-misquote) means you'll lament it well within the life of the machine).

Then again, to be fair, their only argument in favor of the Air over the Acer was that it was prettier and $60 cheaper.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (5, Insightful)

mr_matticus (928346) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612478)

Yeah, because that's exactly what you want on an ultraportable: a hot, battery-sucking video card so you can game on a 10-13" screen, packed in with a low-clocked, low voltage CPU. An ultraportable is not a desktop replacement. If you need a CAD workstation on the go, you're shopping in the wrong market segment. Who on earth modded this insightful?

For a group of people supposedly more "in the know" about technology than most, you seem to miss the point at a frightening frequency. Your 4GB, 2.6GHz dual-core CPU laptop with a 300GB hard drive and a 17" screen might be exactly what you want: maximum raw power. It's not what everyone else wants, and it's not what the lower 80% of computer users would ever come close to needing. Some people would rather spend that money on other things: size, aesthetics, convenience, true portability. Ultraportables under an inch thick are slim enough to fit in soft folios that are half the thickness of a laptop bag. Thin has its place. Specs are not king.

PS- the MacBook is $1100, not $1500, and it's also not a desktop replacement.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (3, Interesting)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612810)

They REALLY do miss your point at frightening frequencies. I NEED an ultraportable. Let me rephrase that. I fucking NEEEEED an ultraportable real fucking bad. Excuse my language :)

I have had PDA phones for years, since it combined the 2 things I need most. 1) A Cell Phone, 2) An organizer and limited ability to run code and surf web pages.

I recently canceled my data plan since I have been 4 different PDA models, and I have come to the inescapable conclusion that they all SUCK. The interface is not what I need, I cannot run everything I need from Windows Mobile 5, or 6. Windows Mobile is buggy as hell. Always has been. A PDA Phone just does not get the job done, and it has not gotten any better in 4 years.

So your point is dead on. I need an ultraportable that has just enough specs to get my job done, while being able to fit into an pocket. I don't need to run Crysis on it, or even it have it replace all the abilities of my high end workstations. I just need to be able to have a full OS, like Windows XP Professional. That will allow me to run the exact same programs that I have developed on my workstations. I need this for work, not play. If I wanted to play remotely, I would use my PSP or DS.

I don't need all the "raw power". I just need the ability to manage my networks, run some web pages, access some databases remotely. That's it.

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (2, Insightful)

MsGeek (162936) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612880)

I don't need all the "raw power". I just need the ability to manage my networks, run some web pages, access some databases remotely. That's it.

This looks like a job for Eee [asus.com].

Re:at least it has a real video card unlike the $1 (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612732)

True - although note that the Sony and Asus have the NVIDIA 8400M GS, which according to the benchmarks in the article do even better.

And we care because? (0, Offtopic)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611814)

PC magazine have a dozen astroturfers here trying to make them appear like relevant, useful and interesting resource?

 

Lenovo X61 HAHAHAHA (0, Troll)

DarkOx (621550) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611820)

The X61 is a total crap. Its am embarassment to the otherwise good name Thinkpad.
The harddisk it ships with is insanely slow, the batter life is awful(45min under normal excel use) unless you make the thing bigger and heavy with the exteneded model. The plasic feels and looks cheap and on top of everything else the restore software for it, which you have to pay extra for does not work.

Re: Lenovo X61 HAHAHAHA (3, Informative)

PFAK (524350) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612004)

Troll.

The X61 has excellent [notebookreview.com] reviews [tabletpcreview.com], infact I own one myself. Under "light" use (and I'm sure that Excel falls under light use), I can get 7 hours out of the battery with wireless enabled, if I'm watching XViD with VLC I can get about 4 hours out of the battery.

The hard disk is not slow at all, I'm running Windows XP and boot time is under a minute on the machine and is sufficient for most tasks.

Re: Lenovo X61 HAHAHAHA (1)

ElPresPufferfish (612395) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612036)

Do you have the extended battery?

Under normal use with firefox/pidgin/xchat I only get about 4 hours of it.
I did opt for a 7200RPM hard drive, but I doubt that makes that much of a difference..

Re: Lenovo X61 HAHAHAHA (1)

PFAK (524350) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612098)

Yes, I have the extended battery. Note that: Lenovo doesn't even support Linux on that hardware, so your mileage will vary.

Re: Lenovo X61 HAHAHAHA (2, Informative)

SHaFT7 (612918) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612826)

the harddrive makes a huge difference in battery life. i had an HP laptop a few years back, and i went from 4200rpm to 7200rpm. it was super fast, but my battery life went from 2-2.25hrs to 45min.

Re: On the other hand... (1)

Planky (761118) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612532)

...the Dell M1330 is a great laptop.

The battery lasts 3.5 hours on power saver with wifi on, 2.5 when playing DVDs. It comes with an Geforce 8600, which makes for a good gaming machine. Dell were even kind enough to not bundle software on it or the restore disc (if you ignore Vista and the lack of XP drivers). The design is great - lightweight and aesthetically pleasing.

What makes it even better, is Ubuntu works without too much trouble - the only issue that I've encountered is the Wireless doesn't always start up after coming out of sleep mode

There are a few annoying issues with it, like the lack of proper nvidia/sound drivers for Windows XP, the DirectMedia app (which tends to wipe the hdd partitions without warning) and, of course, Windows Vista...

Re: Lenovo X61 HAHAHAHA (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22612812)

Informative? Who did that? My X61 has a 7200rpm drive (last time I checked it was not slow) and my 4-cell (that doesn't stick out the back) lasts me 4-4.5 hours on average.

Mod THAT as informative!

Re: Lenovo X61 HAHAHAHA (0, Offtopic)

piojo (995934) | more than 6 years ago | (#22613150)

Sorry for the off-topic post, but the parent post perplexes me: at this time, the parent post is rated "-1", but with a starting score of "-1", and has been modded informative, but the positive moderation did not seem to add any points. I obviously don't understand the moderation system if this is possible. Does anybody know why an AC post could start with a negative score, or why positive moderation would have no benefit?

Fugly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22611842)

...and this is "the only one of Acer's laptop lines that favors design over price and performance"?!

12" screen? (2, Interesting)

Loconut1389 (455297) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611844)

The last 12" screen I had was my Acer 486 notebook, and it was grayscale. Have they brought those back? And for $1,800+? No way! You can get half decent notebooks with 15.4" WXGA's for $800 these days, dvd burner to boot.

Re:12" screen? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22611924)

My laptop has a 12.1 inch screen at SXGA+ resolution (1400x1050 vs. 1366x768 for WXGA) so I don't think this is the 12 inch screen you are familiar with.

Re:12" screen? (1)

exploder (196936) | more than 6 years ago | (#22613028)

Which laptop is that? IMO 12" is a really sweet size for a laptop (I love my Dell XPS m1210), but I feel cramped at 1280x800.

Re:12" screen? (1)

risinganger (586395) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612070)

I'm writing this on a 12" iBook G4 which was only discontinued just over a year ago. While I've had laptops with larger screens I prefer the size/weight of this machine. I don't think you can call 15.4 a notebook by the way.

Re:12" screen? (4, Informative)

SlashdotOgre (739181) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612140)

You're missing the point, the people looking for an ultraportable notebook wouldn't even consider a model with a 15.4" screen, heck 13" is pushing it. While of course you could find a 15.4" model from Dell (or just about any other vendor) for under a grand, you can be gauranteed those things will weigh at least over 5lbs. The ultraportable notebook market targets people who carry a notebook with them all day and don't want something that will weigh them down or be cumbersome to open. What they want/need is something that you won't even notice you're carrying, that can be opened on a plane even when the jerk in front of you is fully reclined, something with enough battery to get you through your last sales call.

I agree that $1800 is way too much to spend, but the fact of the matter is all the modern models that are under 3lbs cost around that range. Personally, when I needed a ultraportable, I bought a 2.6lb Portege 2000 for about $200 from eBay last year, and while it's by no means a powerful machine by today's standards, it has more than enough power for most people's ultraportable needs. It's a P3 750 w/ 256MB RAM, and it runs Fedora Core 6 with Fluxbox amazingly fast. The places I use this laptop, I wouldn't even consider bringing my 14.1" D610, and anything larger would be out of the question. At the same time, if I was doing CAD or art, or many other types of work, there'd be no point for a laptop this small or slow, and those larger models become really attractive.

Re:12" screen? (1)

Loconut1389 (455297) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612308)

I suppose I should have clarified my point- if you're getting less, why pay more? You did agree it was too much, so you indirectly caught my point anyway :)

Re:12" screen? (3, Insightful)

mr_matticus (928346) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612530)

He indicated it was too much for his taste, but he also fairly indicated that this is the market's price range all around. You might think that a Wusthof is an overpriced knife and Farberware gets the job done fine. That clearly doesn't mean that Wusthof should lower its prices.

Who says you're getting less? You'd have to be extremely one-dimensional to make that claim. A 50% weight reduction might easily be worth more than a 15" screen. A loss of 3/4" in thickness could very well make sense for a slower CPU and fewer ports. If you don't need or want something, it doesn't have any value to you.

You don't care about looks, size, or weight. So this isn't for you. A business traveler probably doesn't care about having a desktop on his shoulder. So your machine isn't for him. It's presumptuous to claim you're getting "less" in an ultraportable than in a flimsily built standard laptop.

Re:12" screen? (1)

Loconut1389 (455297) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612684)

I was generally under the impression, having dismantled a few laptops, that the bulk of the laptop was in the screen and the necessary supports (as well as most of the cost) and the battery and dvd drive- with the motherboard and memory taking up a pretty tiny percentage of the innards. It seems to me, getting a 12" screen would reduce much of the cost both in terms of necessary supports and cost of the screen itself. Put a smaller keyboard, and voila. The DVD drive you can't shrink much, so the rest relies on battery technology which should be the same as in every other laptop. Somehow $1800 for a laptop, which in a side-by-side comparison with others doesn't seem to me much more (if any) rugged or have any nifty features. Does it really cost an extra $1000 to put it in a smaller form factor? We're not talking teeny- just smaller? I'm truly looking for insight/details here, not asking questions I think I know the answers to. Any enlightenment would be great. Is this ferarri laptop more rugged, or in any way better than its larger brethren, size aside? The second part of the question is, does that size difference equal the price difference, less some leeway for the ferarri brand name/image?

Re:12" screen? (3, Insightful)

mr_matticus (928346) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612922)

Well this Ferrari seems a bit lazy, but as to other ultraportables: yes.

It is no small feat (no pun intended) to reduce these machines. Whether it's a $2100 Vaio or an $1800 MacBook Air, every millimeter is a fight. Take the MacBook. It's one of the world's thinnest notebooks to begin with--barely over an inch thick overall. It is completely maximized for space as to "standard" notebook components.

Then look at the MBA. It is the same machine, only less than half the volume. It's 0.3" thinner at its very thickest, and averages about half an inch thick throughout. How do you do that? What makes it so that you can package a thinner machine? Keep in mind that most notebooks are 1.5" thick, and a notebook is already a complex miniaturization of a desktop system. The low-travel keyboard alone takes up about a third of the thickest part of the MBA and about a quarter of the thickness of a Vaio. How do you manage heat distribution when there is so little room for air circulation? How do you move heat away from components horizontally because radiating upward won't actually allow heat to escape? How do you further miniaturize an already-tiny CPU package (for the MBA, it involved new packaging--smaller and more expensive for the same thing)? How do you cram a whole motherboard into a space smaller than your typical PCI sound card? How do you make a battery small enough to fit in that height but last long enough (for the MBA, it's to remove all the bulky packaging and the space-wasting bay and put it directly in the case--it's not the first company to do so)?

Every millimeter is a fight. Removing the optical drive gets you maybe 1/3 of the way there for the MacBook Air. The rest of that makes a difference. There are plenty of people who would take the extra fifth of an inch back so they could keep the DVD drive. Sony makes a great Vaio for that, but it costs at least as much as the Air.

Is it really an extra $1000? The answer to that question is the same as the answer to "why is the very fastest CPU $500 more than the next best, and beats it by maybe 5%?" Because that's why they call it the bleeding edge. Early adopters pay the premium that makes things happen. The trickle-down effect takes over from there.

Ok, this line says it all (3, Insightful)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611868)

The Ferrari series is the only one of Acer's laptop lines that favors design over price and performance.
If I'm dropping $1800 on a laptop, I'm expecting design AND performance at the expense of affordability. For that kind of money, why not get a Mac? Sheesh! A fool and his money are some party.

Re:Ok, this line says it all (0)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611928)

If I'm dropping $1800 on a laptop, I'm expecting design AND performance at the expense of affordability.
Um. $1800 isn't worth what it once was.

 

Re:Ok, this line says it all (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612170)

If I'm dropping $1800 on a laptop, I'm expecting design AND performance at the expense of affordability.
Um. $1800 isn't worth what it once was.
$1800 may not buy as much as it used to but it takes just as long to earn it. Hell, for the people who have been laid off and are working shit jobs, it takes even longer to earn it than before.

indeed, it's worth more (1)

Trepidity (597) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612278)

When it comes to computers, there's quite fast deflation. You can buy a lot more computing for $1800 today than in the past. More importantly, you can get a lot of good machines for a lot less than $1800, and an $1800 laptop is in the upper portion of the price range for mainstream machines---so needs to compete against other things in that price range, like Apple's higher-end products.

stagnant wages (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22612592)

Since wages have been stagnant since the early 90s, it's still the same amount of work.

Favors design? (0, Troll)

DwarfGoanna (447841) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612072)

I'm going to burn some karma here to point out that this thing appears to have been designed BY A FUCKING RETARD. I've seen more tasteful case mods at the fucking flea market.

Re:Favors design? (1)

Riquez (917372) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612400)

I totally agree, it's a monstrosity. "Favours Design over price"? What a joke, there's literally no aesthetic design to it at all. How disappointing to get that out of the box?, it looks 5 years old when new.

Re:Ok, this line says it all (2, Funny)

68K (234318) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612580)

'Some party'? The phrase you're looking for is 'a fool and his money are SOON PARTED.'

Re:Ok, this line says it all (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22613160)

mod parent up! I wish I had mod point for you right now...or maybe I wish I had mod points for the OP for making me laugh so hard :)

Re:Ok, this line says it all (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612768)

If I'm dropping $1800 on a laptop, I'm expecting design AND performance at the expense of affordability. For that kind of money, why not get a Mac?

Or the Asus or Sony. Acer aren't the only maker of PC laptops.

Re:Ok, this line says it all (1)

BuhDuh (1102769) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612786)

OK, let's compare the feature set:
The Acer: 2.3GHz AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-66 The Apple: 1.8GHz Intel Core2 Duo
The Acer: 4GB DDR2 The Apple: 2GB DDR2
The Acer: 250GB Hard Drive The Apple: 64GB SSD
The Acer: DVD Super Multi The Apple: None
Seems to me it's not bad what you can get for an extra $100 or so.

Re:Ok, this line says it all (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22613026)

I'm not dropping $1,800 on a laptop even if it performs oral sex whilst singing "Bohemian Rhapsody", balancing my checkbook, finding me a better job, changing diapers, and ensuring the tax thugs don't know about my dolphin smuggling.

Re:Ok, this line says it all (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 6 years ago | (#22613054)

$1800 really isn't all that much for a laptop. While the low end ones are reasonably cheap, once you get fancy the price shoots up amazingly fast. Even boring old Dell laptops [dell.com] get well over that.

Re:Ok, this line says it all (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22613092)

For that kind of money, why not get a Mac?

Because these people aren't looking for laptops, they are looking for image. Ferrari is a vehicle, not a computer. It is a kick-ass vehicle, but it still has everything to do with image and nothing to do with the car itself. A person driving a Ferrari is saying "I have so much money and power that I can drop an insane amount of cash into an amazingly impractical vehicle and not give a flying fuck." How many Ferrari owners actually use the capabilities of their crazy vehicles? The vast majority of Ferrari owners obey the speed limit, drive very safely and leave their vehicle in the garrage, under a tarp under all but the best driving conditions.

The Ferrari laptop is a different animal from the car. A Ferrari laptop sends a similar message as the H2 Hummer: I got a pile of money and I think that buying this chunk of trash will make my penis seem larger. That's it. That's all. It's the lizard part of the brain [google.ca] at work.

I never got the ferrari (2, Funny)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611872)

Why in hell would one want to have a laptop that is branded after a car? I don't see the point... I wouldn't want to buy a Porsche, BMW, Mercedes or Audi branded laptop either.

Re:I never got the ferrari (3, Funny)

jo42 (227475) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611948)

...sheepishly puts away his Ferrari coffee cup, Ferrari mouse pad, Ferrari poker cards and Mercedes Benz umbrella... :-p

Re:I never got the ferrari (0, Flamebait)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611952)

It's an "I wanted a mac but I can't figure out how the one button shit works and I don't want people to think I' gay" thing ...

FERRARI: From Envy, Retarted Redesigns Are Recycled Idiocies.

Welcome to our new, improved "Car names and what they really mean" game.

Re:I never got the ferrari (1)

seanmeister (156224) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612080)

"FERRARI: From Envy, Retarted Redesigns Are Recycled Idiocies.

Welcome to our new, improved "Car names and what they really mean" game.

From the makers of the new improved "Humorously coincidental mis-spelling" game!

Re:I never got the ferrari (3, Interesting)

OakLEE (91103) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611976)

Or a better question, why would Ferrari license their trademark out to be slapped on something that any reasonable person could tell is a piece of crap just by looking at it. Seriously who needs a VGA, and a PS/2 port [pcmag.com] on their laptop nowadays? What year is this, 1998? And for $1860? Unless you really need the dedicated video to play games on a 12" screen, I don't see much reason to buy this one.

As for the case. Who needs carbon fiber on their laptop? Its use obviously didn't save any weight. The case weighs 4.4 lbs. You can also tell it uses cheap plastic that will discolor or crack easily. If I'm paying $1900 for a laptop, it better at least look and feel like a $1900 laptop (see a Lenovo Thinkpad or MacBook Pro). Ferrari has come a long way since the days when they were associated with flashy but brittle cars. I don't think it's in their best interest to rekindle that memory by putting their name on flashy yet brittle laptops.

Re:I never got the ferrari (2, Interesting)

Loconut1389 (455297) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612006)

Lots of people like to dock at work and only use the (exceptionally small) screen on the road. Unless there's a dedicated all-in-one docking connector, VGA is important.

Re:I never got the ferrari (1)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612164)

Or you just do like Apple does and ship a DVI-to-VGA adapter.

Re:I never got the ferrari (2, Insightful)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612778)

But, but ... I'd rather have something that I can just plug straight in - that Just Works.

Re:I never got the ferrari (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22612266)

That reminds me.... When I interned at the geek compound, we docked every day. At first I thought it was slightly gay, but I gotta confess, it feels kind of nice. I came so hard, fuck. Good times, Good times.

VGA for projectors, and it's not a PS/2 Port (5, Informative)

langelgjm (860756) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612126)

Seriously who needs a VGA, and a PS/2 port on their laptop nowadays?

Lots of people need VGA out to hook up to projectors. Also, that's not a PS/2 port. Judging by the pin configuration, I'm guessing it's an S-Video out or something, for attaching to TVs, etc.

Re:VGA for projectors, and it's not a PS/2 Port (1)

colinrichardday (768814) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612234)

Hey, the screen on my laptop would go out (laptop still running, just couldn't see the display). I was able to see it by plugging in a monitor to the VGA port.

Re:VGA for projectors, and it's not a PS/2 Port (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612672)

Modern projectors use DVI. Older ones can be used via a DVI to VGA adaptor. Having a VGA port on a laptop seems archaic - my last two haven't had one and I give presentations fairly often.

Re:VGA for projectors, and it's not a PS/2 Port (1)

Splab (574204) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612888)

Jup thats a S-VHS port.

And to GP; having VGA out seems to be smarter than DVI, most projectors and screens that support DVI has a VGA input also, so going with VGA should target a broader audience.

Re:I never got the ferrari (2, Insightful)

vux984 (928602) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612212)

Seriously who needs a VGA, [...] port on their laptop nowadays?

Most people?

Connecting to large screens or projectors is a pretty common use for laptops.

Sure from a technical standpoint, I'd prefer DVI, with adapters to VGA, but VGA is probably more convenient. Most projectors I encounter are still VGA, as are a lot of budget screens, and the expensive ones at least support VGA too.

So for an ultra portable do I want the technically better DVI and the hassle of adapters everywhere I go... or just put up with the the lower quality of VGA but at least it works everywehre without carrying additional bits everywhere I go?

Tough call. I can see the argument for VGA.

Re:I never got the ferrari (1)

elguap0 (758827) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612610)

That's not a PS/2 port judging by the pinout... it's probably for TV output. You might say a DVI port would be better than VGA, but then you run into the problem of not having the adapter handy when you want to connect to a projector in a conference room (I'm guessing that's one of the popular uses of VGA ports on laptops) As for carbon fiber, it's a ferrari branded laptop, what do you expect? It needs to tie in to the automobile brand somehow.

Re:I never got the ferrari (1)

Scooter (8281) | more than 6 years ago | (#22613140)

why would Ferrari license their trademark out to be slapped on something that any reasonable person could tell is a piece of crap just by looking at it.


Because - it pays. Ferrari will stick their label on any piece of crud going if it will make them a buck. I had a look round the "Ferrari Store" in Rome last week and was amazed at the tat on offer with a Ferrari badge on it. A cheapo Olympus compact digital camera for example - normally retails at £100, but produced in red with Ferrari badge - 895 euro (about £700). They definitely "saw you coming". http://www.isawyoucoming.org/ [isawyoucoming.org]

Re:I never got the ferrari (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22612000)

Agreed, but there will always be a segment of the population willing to pay more for something because it has the name of some rich person on it. Dorks. I'm sure Enzo Ferrari would be proud.....

Well... (1)

Tpl2000 (1174767) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611940)

1st, people would buy it just because the Ferrari is a cool car. 2nd, how much do you want to bet Acer profited anyway? The unexperienced will occasionally buy something because of a price tag, as opposed to numbers that they don't understand...

Far from a disappointment (5, Funny)

cyofee (975070) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611946)

The people buying it will get everything they wanted - a laptop you can edit text and sufr the internet on, with a Ferrari logo.

Re:Far from a disappointment (1)

jfim (1167051) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612068)

The people buying it will get everything they wanted - a laptop you can edit text and sufr the internet on, with a Ferrari logo.
Exactly. A lot of average people don't check specs(or do a poor job at it) and rather rely on aesthetics/salesmen recommendations to guide their choice. If I were to be a Ferrari fanatic, maybe I'd buy it because of the brand attachment, as crazy as it may sound. On the other hand, some people only look at the specs and don't care if their PC is only parts in a cardboard box [flickr.com].

Re:Far from a disappointment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22612788)

If you're a Ferrari fanatic, it implies you would spend $250k+ on a car. Given that, $1900 for a crap laptop doesn't seem like too bad of a deal.

The design... (1)

KDEWolf (972921) | more than 6 years ago | (#22611972)

...simply sucks. I don't understand what that little horse is doing standing there, really... And with such price tag.

Jeez... (2, Interesting)

yourexhalekiss (833943) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612030)

This laptop seems like a real loser. I had a different product with far better features way back this summer, for $600 less: the Dell XPS m1330. Slot-loading DVD burner, discrete graphics card, backlit LCD screen, etc. Dell even sells it w/ Linux. The only "bad" things about it in relation to this laptop is that it has a 13 inch screen instead of a 12", and it weighs about 3.8 pounds. (Still very light.)

Battery life on it is great, too: 4 hours of normal "note-taking" use (I'm in school) with the 6 cell battery, and a full six hours of regular use with the nine cell.

Frankly, I don't see why the slod-loading DVD burner is such a big deal: it's been done better and cheaper before.

Re:Jeez... (1)

Shemmie (909181) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612330)

I'll second that. My M1330 is a couple of months old, and it's a beauty. 2 gig RAM, 2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo, the 9 cell option (it runs and runs, even Bluetoothing to my phone for net access), Geforce 8400, LED back-lit, and 320 gig HD. I look at the specs on the Ferrari and cringe, to be honest. The only thing I could complain about with my laptop is that the black top attracts fingerprints and smudges like a finger-print magnet.

When that's the biggest complaint, you know it's a good system.

Ferrari 4000 (2, Interesting)

KingJ (992358) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612152)

I own a Ferrari 4000 laptop, it's two years old and I still use it on a daily basis. I didn't buy it for it's branding, and I would rather not have the branding however at the time it was one of the few laptops with a real graphics card in it (no intel rubbish!). I want to be able to play games while not at home, anywhere. It's a very durable laptop that has survived many drops and the slot-load CD drive is an excellent idea - I don't know why more laptops don't have them. The only thing i've had to replace during it's intensive life is the hard drive, not exactly Acer's fault.

Next time I buy a laptop, i'm looking at another Ferrari or a machine with a real graphics card at an affordable price. So far the only contender i've seen is Dell's Vostro, but I have a deep dislike of Dell due to previous experiences. I don't expect to be looking for another laptop for a while though while this one is still going strong.

Re:Ferrari 4000 (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612302)

I don't expect to be looking for another laptop for a while though while this one is still going strong.

Good job. You just jinxed yourself.

Re:Ferrari 4000 (1)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612506)

I have a Ferrari 3400 that I bought for the same reason.

Unfortunately, the backlight doesn't come on unless I use the driver supplied by Acer, and they haven't updated it since the subsequent model came out. So I have a decent graphics chip and crappy old drivers. Thanks Acer!

(The machine is great otherwise; at least once the "car starting" noise is turned off at bootup... Durable, cool to the touch, slot loading, thin, light...)

Re:Ferrari 4000 (1)

CompMD (522020) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612562)

I have always liked Acer laptops, I had a Travelmate C303xmi convertible, and I miss it. At work we have Dell machines, and the senior engineer laptops we have now are Precision M90s. I'm not a huge Dell fan, but they are cheap and they do their job. I was actually impressed with the first M90 we got. It has a Quadro FX graphics card with dedicated memory which is fantastic for doing CAD work. Siemens NX and CATIA work flawlessly. I was happy to see that the M90 had three buttons on the trackpad as well. The M90 is big, but tough and powerful. It complements the Precision 670, 650, and 530 workstations we have very nicely.

Re:Ferrari 4000 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22612620)

Another Ferrari 4000 owner here.
I needed a laptop for photoshop and 3d, and when it came down to it, the number of choices with a 1650x1200 15" screen and some minor kind of GPU power were few and far between. The Ferrari was the cheapest.

Surprised me a lot how few high res 15" screens were out there at the time.

look at the bright side (1)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612188)

in a couple of years you will be able to pick up used acer ferreris and the asus eeepc and other similar mini lappys for about 50 bucks in about any pawn shop...

Unsurprising... (1)

Aardpig (622459) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612720)

...I've had experience with two Acer laptops, and in both cases I've been very disappointed. Certainly, they're very cheap, but you don't get anything more than you pay for. The build quality is very low -- hold up the laptop by one corner, and the whole thing flexes and creaks. Not a lot of thought has gone into important issues such as thermal and noise management, and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

As others have already remarked, it's unclear why a company with a strong brand like Ferrari would chose to pair with such a weak manufacturer. IMHO, Ferrari can only lose by association with such a poor-quality product.

Re:Unsurprising... (1)

gnufied (942531) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612958)

True Mate. I bought Acer Travelmate laptop about one and half year ago with prize money that I won in one of the open source programming scholarship ( I was an engineering student those days and in India I paid around 50,000 rupees or around 1200 dollors ). It was such an awful thing, I had to take it to their service center regularly ( rest of the gripping story can be read here [gnufied.org] ). About 4 to 5 months ago it died. Their service was worst and laptop was one odd junk ( so much for my first laptop ). Just avoid Acer laptops please.

SO? What's yer damn point...?? (-1, Flamebait)

bratwiz (635601) | more than 6 years ago | (#22612842)


Wonder how good Apple would be at making a world-class sports car?

Sure it has a pretty touch-screen interface you can poke with your finger... too bad it only goes 47.6 miles an hour and Apple is the only place you can get fuel for it. On the other hand, it is nice that it comes in all those different colors... Red and Black were getting a little boring.

PC Mag (1)

qazwart (261667) | more than 6 years ago | (#22613098)

The Acer Ferrari 1100 would be more attractive if its price ($1,860) wasn't higher than that of the more aesthetically pleasing Apple MacBook Air ($1,799)


Boy, that PC magazine is such a Mac fanboy site.
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