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Textmode Quake

michael posted more than 14 years ago | from the I-laughed-I-cried dept.

Quake 114

ScUmM_BoY writes "Someone had enough spare time to create Textmode Quake for Linux. It was the Link of the Day over at User Friedly, and the Web page includes some (blinding) screenshots. Keen!" I really don't know what to say. I am aghast. Update: 02/12 22:19 by michael : Okay, okay. So it was posted to Slashdot a year and half ago. It's still cool.

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looks like shit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283182)

like the other poster said, 80x25 asshole.

WRONG ARTICLE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283183)

What does Win2k have to do with Textmode Quake?

Michael is a retard... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283184)

...not to mention a paranoid delusionist. When he's not insulting John Carmack for no reason, he's posting complete garbage about government conspiracies, or crap like the Linus Torvalds radio thing or this. Rob please take away his posting access, I'm tired of his moronic crap.

-W.W.

Re:Marketing? Deadlines? Pah.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283185)

Actually I think these are the funniest things on slashdot. At least you caught it before the grits guy.

Hay. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283186)

Why do you like the text verson of Quake III? Isn't it supposed to be less visibility then the graphic mode of Quake 3? Suppose you nerds really like wierd stuff. And I bet it's for Linux only... Yeah.. I'd go rather play Quake 3 and rail you guys left and right with you guys in poor visibility text mode. Besides, I think it's weird to have text modes of realistic 3D games. huh..

Re:You know what's really terrifying? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283187)

I don't think there is a textmode gimp. The GIMP supports aalib as a filter or something like that. I believe you can take your picture files and turn them into ascii art within GIMP, and GIMP uses aalib to do it.

ASCII megademo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283188)

Does anyone else remember the old Amiga ASCII megademo? It was done as a joke but was really cool. Had texture-mapped mandelbrot cubes, long hand-drawn full screen ASCII anims and the like. Hilarious.

Breaking news for Slashdot! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283189)

There's a guy in Finland that has duplicated the Unix kernel and released the source code!

Re:looks like shit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283190)

my screen is not 80x25 ya dumb troll. I never said it was

YUCK (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283191)

The text mode game looks ugly. I have played the X SVGAlib version in X, and I wouldn't go back to a text interface. Maybe this is of use to people that never upgrade their machine, or feel they want to be atavistic.

Re:SCREENSHOT of the NAKED JACKIE CHAN SKIN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283192)

I know we all wish there were more geek chicks, but I'm not so sure this is the way to get them converted.

Re:This is a repost. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283193)

You arnt to bright. Thats not the real jonkatz

Look at the source to the screenshots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283194)

That joker has the screenshots made in Fronpage 2.0, with about 99% overhead.

Re:Slashdot Needs a Coordinated News Team (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283195)

Ok, "back in the day" and _always_ these have always been "becoming a large problem". This _ALWAYS_ happens. This is just how slashdot is. It's not getting worse or better, it doesn't matter. EVERY TIME they do it, it's predicatable that everyone and their mother complain and predict the corruption of slashdot into some blithering mound of repeated stories. People always have nostalgia for stuff they can't even remember accurately or stuff that they weren't even there for. Also: they have always had poor spelling and grammar. They're not getting better or worse on that either, deal with it. It's slashdot, it's not going to change.

Re:Woah...Nostalgia! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283196)

No shit. I read it the first time and it sure as hell isn't News for Nerds now. And what happended with moderation? Why aren't people who post about fucking a stone statue of Natalie Portman (sic re name spelling?, I don't know anything about her except she was in the Star Wars sequel and too young too interest an old bastard like me) moderated out of existence; I'm too old and too fond of real women to want to read this shit. Slashdot is looking like a lot of the worst groups on Usenet these days. Wasn't moderation supposed to cut out the irrelevant bullshit? Is the general readership of the group to stupid to weed out this shit?

Sorry for the rant; I know I haven't bothered to log in as anything other than AC or contribute anything deep or insightful. But I'm amazed that /. pretends to have any moderators at all; half the posts on any article are irrelevant trolls. Why the fuck should I have to care about almost-jail-bait Natalie Portman to read "News for Nerds?"

Re:Someone has to much time on there hands? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283197)

Anon wrote
Paul Wilkins, who apparently has waaaay to much free time, has graciously donated two HTML "screenshots" of ttyquake which he created by hand. No, really. He typed in all those little characters while reading from jpeg screenshots I sent him. His mother must be so proud.

Hrm... I wonder if this guy has ever heard of "OCR" software?

Paul responds OCR would have been an easier way to do it but the letters wouldn't have come out right because the jpgs were fuzzy as hell. At the time of doing them I was looking for something to concentrate on over a weekend, and this provided me with just right sort of thing. It was something that I am interested in, and it was a good chance for me to improve a small part of the internet. Why put up a program for Ascii-Quake and then have jpg screen-shots of it? It didn't make sense.

It also gave me experience with FrontPage, and with that experience a good reason to move from GUI HTML editors onto ones like Arachnophillia.

Still, I'd really like to find out how I can rewrite those screens so you can go from white to grey and back to white without having to use the font tags. With them in there the text version is larger than the jpg!!

Paul Wilkins [mailto]

Re:YUCK (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283198)


Three points:

1) It's a joke. Let me repeat that - a JOKE. He did it for FUN.

2) There is no such thing as X SVGALib. You're either running the X version in X, or the SVGALib version in a console.

3) You are a fucking drooling retard.

yes, yes it is. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283199)

and you are going to get sued under the Americans with Disabilities Act because i am too poor to afford some big ass X11 computer, i have 80x25 on my MDA monitor i bought in 1985 with the settlement from Dow Chemical after love canal

start up a web page i will scan /. for entries (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283200)

the archives of /. contain great prose i think it will be good

Re:awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283201)

Lame Test: Shit, Fuck, Today, Yesterday, Tommorow. Lame test.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOld (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283203)

http://slashdot.org/articles/98 /09/04/1524236.shtml [slashdot.org] This was posted by Hemos many moons ago.

you are hurting andover.net's profits (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283204)

you will be punished.

80x25 asshole (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283205)

get a life

JACKIE CHAN'S GIANT ASCII WONG (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283206)

Heh, this is actualy pretty funny. Much better then most of the slashdot 'jammers' we've got running around nowadays..

Re:Slashdot Needs a Coordinated News Team (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283207)

About the grammer and typos ... Just remember that we ain't all english/american. For a lot of us English is something we've got to learn ourselves .... 'BE the difference that makes a difference' - JEWEL

Good news about keyboard and new aa-vga hack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283208)

OK.
I would like to tell you all, that at home I have new AA-lib (1.4) and aa-vga.
It has working keyboard for Linux console (well only keys with ascii equivalents and arrows works, but at least
releases are detected). Also I've fixed aa-vga so it now have much better
results and is able to run more games (doom, koules, abuse tested).
Acutally I am quite busy to release it right now.
Fot those who are interested, I've put it to
http://horac.ta.jcu.cz/pub/linux/hubicka/exper imental
enjoy!
Honza Hubicka

riva128 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283209)

Hey, MY riva128 DOES bilinear-filtering, it was the prettiest chip for "Forsaken" at it's time, and I'm also quite sure I had that with MDK. But of course I DO agree that the weaker chips should still be supported. I find it extremely laughable that games like unreal, which support software-only-rendering, do not care to use my riva128 because it is too slow !! How could it possibly be worse than in software ??? Ridiculous. *sigh*

twi

Offtopic MY ASS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283210)

This is text mode quake we are talking about... that was a screenshot of the naked Jackie Chan Skin.

sos yr mom (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283215)

200 stories submitted and michael, robs special 'butt buddy' is the one that gets a story out. now i hope this little flame will either a. create a sense of tense and quietude masking an inner seething rage between the old guard slashdot admins and 'michael' so they will say, inevitably, with deep gravely voices full of managerial concern and angst, "im afraid its not working out. im afraid we'll have to let you go" and retreat slowly to the coffee room where hemos and taco can banter and look each other in the eye and make a silent subconscious pact and agreement that what they did was right, was necessary, was awful, and most importantly, made them 'real men' by foisting upon them a tough decision that only 'real men' who are leaders can make. b. make everyone at /. rally around michael, tell him its ok, they still love him, it wasnt his fault, etc. c. both d. make them hire a WOMAN instead of bitching 'why arent there geek girls' (of course she would get flamed by 500 slobbering fucktards instantly but .. )

Re:This is a repost. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283216)

Are you ever going to have a post with a score over 1? It seems the moderators think as much of your posts as the /. community thinks of your articles.

Re:Woah...Nostalgia! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283217)

I agree. Maybe someday someone will invent something called a "computer" which can be "programmed" to search past stories to see if there are any which seem to match.

Then mankind will no longer need to remember what has already been posted.

Oh, brave new world.

MS innovates the Wheel..

.

As a Cube.

Re:Old news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283218)

We need more stupid, pointless, cool, hacks like this for linux

You mean like if we port Powerpoint?

bwahaaahahaaa!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283219)

heeeeeheeeeee

This should win a freakin' award (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1283220)

for the most words written continuously, stream-of-consciousness style, without any end in sight and saying the most ridiculous things which eventually seem funnier as you continue to get caught in the ever widening cycle of self-perpetuated verbage that can never seem to end although you can never exactly seem to explain why it doesnt seem unnatural.

Marketing? Deadlines? Pah.... (0)

Accipiter (8228) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283221)

"Our customers do not want us to sell them products with over 63,000 potential known defects. They want these defects corrected," stated one of Microsoft's Windows development leaders, Marc Lucovsky, in the memo. "How many of you would spend $500 on a piece of software with over 63,000 potential known defects?"

So instead of correcting the problem and pushing back the release date, Microsoft is going to release Windows 2000 upon thousands of unsuspecting retailers, and millions of unsuspecting users JUST to meet the deadline. "That's okay, we'll fix it in service pack 1."

The only problem with that is, Service pack 1 is a good 6 months away. In the meantime, what do the users do?

"Our goal for the next release of Windows 2000 is to have zero bugs."

WHO do these people think they're KIDDING? The next release? Okay, we're at Service pack 6 for NT 4. Several of those service packs actually BROKE more stuff than they fixed, and the goal for Windows 2000 OSR2 is zero bugs? Sure, I'll hand it to them - They have the right idea, but:

A) it's more than likely just marketspeak: "This one may have 63,000 problems, but the NEXT one will have zero, enabling you to have fun, and be more productive than ever! Blah Blah..."

B) How about attainable goals? How many people believe in their hearts that Microsoft will put out a Bug-free operating system? There is no such thing. Also, Microsoft is so concerned about market share that they could care less about present problems. "Fix it later."

Market researchers have repeated warnings to their clients against upgrading immediately to Win2000.

Go back about 5 years, replace "Win2000" with "Windows 95", and we have the SAME EXACT situation all over again. (Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.)

Several outfits have advised customers to wait until Microsoft issues its first or second service pack before deploying Win2000.

*Ahem* - Replace "Win2000" with NT 4.0. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.


-- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?

Believe it or not... (1)

David Greene (463) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283222)

Actually, something like this can be quite useful.

We're developing a research C compiler here and we use lots of programs for benchmarking and regression testing. Doom is one. One of the guys here hacked up a text mode Doom so it could more easily integrate with our regression testing environment (it's much easier to diff textual output :)).

So no, actually this isn't always a waste of time. At least not if your building your own computer or something. :)

--

Re:possible? (1)

mikpos (2397) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283224)

Yes, I know. I just need to show my love for aalib and Koules.

possible? (1)

mikpos (2397) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283225)

No, surely it wouldn't be possible to do something similar to converting graphics to ANSI text on-the-fly. Surely it wouldn't be possible to do exactly the same thing the aalib is doing -- the same library in fact that text-mode Quake is based on! It even says on the page itself -- BASED ON AALIB!! NO, OF COURSE IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE! IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE TO CREATE A LIBRARY LIKE THE ONE BY JAN HUBICKA AVAILABLE AT http://www.ta.jcu.cz/aa/aalib/, THE LIBRARY MADE BY THE SAME MAN WHO MADE A CERTAIN GAME CALLED -- KOULES!! RING A BELL!*!L?!? OF COURSE IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE TO CREATE A LIBRARY THAT "works on a terminal of any kind, [is] fast and portable, [and] gives to you standard API." OR ONE THAT "gives to your old hardware more power!" ONE THAT USES ANSI COLOURS TO PROPERLY SHADE THE GRAPHICS WHEN EQUIPPED WITH A CAPABLE TERMINAL?!

Har har I'm just kiddin' ya; a library like that actually already exists.

aalib screenshot made with GiMP :) (1)

CrAlt (3208) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283226)

http://hackme.dhs.org/AAshot.html

Re:80x25 asshole (1)

CrAlt (3208) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283227)

Lynx/2.8.1pre.9 libwww-FM/2.14
Why? This you?

Sure (1)

CrAlt (3208) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283228)

of my lame desktop?
here [dhs.org]


Here is a ASCII version of the guy you all know and love [dhs.org]


And the photo i made it out of [dhs.org]

The gimp plug-in is called AA. It can be found on gimp.org. And no those links are not in 80x25 :P

Re:aalib screenshot made with GiMP :) (1)

Spirilis (3338) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283229)

haha, supply us with the 24-bit jpeg of that please ;-) *just barely saw what that portrayed in 5x7 font maximized in 800x600...*

Ooooold news (1)

aXi (6533) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283230)

Please before submitting any stories search the slashdot database. I found an article that I remembered reading : http://slashdot.org/articles/98/09/04/1524236.shtm l
So please search the database for any previous mentions of the same stuff.

Ooooold news (1)

aXi (6533) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283232)

Please before submitting any stories search the slashdot database. I found an article named Quake for ttys -- Really! [slashdot.org] that I remembered reading. So please search the database for any previous mentions of the same stuff.

Re:You know what's really terrifying? (1)

ruud (7631) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283233)

On the AA Project home page, there's a section on 'Software known to support AA'; and there, second on the list, is The GIMP. textmode GIMP! Waaahhh, that is so perverse. I greatly fear I shall have to play with this...

I hate to burst your bubble, but the gimp supports aalib because it can render (save) images to ASCII art format, not because the program itself executes in text mode.


--

The Matrix (1)

i22y (10479) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283234)

Jeezus....from the screenshots, it looks like looking into "The Matrix"...minus the tacky green terminal and how text went down instead of across. :)

Re:Woah...Nostalgia! (1)

Tzoq (14169) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283235)

If it's happening more often, the most likely reason is with a much larger volume of back-stories in /.'s history now than there was two years ago, it's that much easier to repeat a story. When you've only publishes a couple of hundred, it's easy to remember what's gone before: when you've reached several thousand, it's a little tougher.

Re:possible? (1)

mcc (14761) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283237)

heh.. ummm
well, if you'll read the original post, you'll notice that i wasn't talking about creating a realtime convert-all-graphics-to-text engine; i just pointed out such an engine (asciimac) was already out there for the mac and already open source, and i was speculating about how difficult it would be to adapt that one engine to send ANSI text over a telnet connection instead of drawing the text to the screen (follow the link and lookit the screenshots..). "possible" was altogether the wrong word..

the post itself was not directly related to TTYQ3, it was just something i posted because TTYQ3 made it occur to me.. sorry. :)

Re:hmm, ttys.. (1)

mcc (14761) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283238)

uh oh.. just read back over what i'd posted and noticed a horrendous typo. too late.

"patch all the quicktime traps".. that should have said "patch all the quickdraw traps".

This doesn't really matter or effect the meaning of the post in the end, but i'm pretty sure if anyone catches the error i'll get flamed like hell.

doesn't matter one way or the other, there's no way in hell i'd ever get around to writing anything that patched the quickdraw stuff anyway.. especially for the simple reason that there's no _use_ for an X client running off the mac os, since you can use VNC [versiontracker.com] .. (which is something i probably should have mentioned in the original post, or at least stressed i wasn't serious..)

shoulda looked more carefully before i posted. i'm an idiot. please forgive me, i am tired..

Old news (1)

Whizziwig (23055) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283240)

This has been around for a while.

It's bitchy to get wokring, you need svgalib and libncurses3, 3, not 4, not 5, libncurses3, there's a package in debian for this, and there are rpms floating around.

I've only gotten it working in black & white, very trippy, impresses people for an instant, then they're like, umm, that's stupid! You can't move or shoot or see well.

We need more stupid, pointless, cool, hacks like this for linux

--dave whizziwig.com [whizziwig.com]

ahem (1)

delmoi (26744) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283241)

example 1:
JonKatz

example 2:
JohnKatz

See the diffrence?

[ c h a d o k e r e ] [dhs.org]

Re:misc feelings (1)

delmoi (26744) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283242)

1) there is no source.

Good god, does everything have to come with source nowadays (And, I'd have to say I'd be surprised if it actually didn't, what's the value in an proprietary ASCII based X server?)

Even if there were no source, it doesn't really matter. If you really need an open source ASCII X server, why don't you write one yourself? This was simply done for fun, bitching about not providing the source for something no one needed is really lame.

[ c h a d o k e r e ] [dhs.org]

Someone has to much time on there hands? (1)

delmoi (26744) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283244)

I went to the story before, the last time it was posted, but this time there was somthing new:

Paul Wilkins, who apparently has waaaay to much free time, has graciously donated two HTML "screenshots" of ttyquake which he created by hand. No, really. He typed in all those little characters while reading from jpeg screenshots I sent him. His mother must be so proud.

Hrm... I wonder if this guy has ever heard of "OCR" software?

[ c h a d o k e r e ] [dhs.org]

snif... (1)

SendBot (29932) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283245)

squake segfaults on me!!! I'm running a 2.2.x kernel on debian 2.2. anyone else plagued by this? I want texty quake, dammit!

Slashdot Needs a Coordinated News Team (1)

mccormick (40772) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283247)

I almost believe that this is becoming a large problem (as not just this particular case, as some have already pointed out.)

It seems to be happening more and more often, that the Slashdot news posters either post the same thing multiple times, or post something that is very old.

Not to mention the horrible grammar and typos. I know that these guys are really l33t hackers, and as such, minor details like spelling and coherency really don't apply.

But honestly. It makes Slashdot seem less professional.

Oh well; just another day at slashdot :)

aalib, baby. (1)

jesdynf (42915) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283248)

This thing's been on Happy Penguin [happypenguin.org] for aeons now. Gotta love aalib, the library that makes it all possible.

The sick thing is, aalib will work with an astonishing array of "real" apps. There's even a GIMP plugin, I hear, if you're just dying to make screenshots even a Lynxer can read.

The Matrix (1)

gnp (47243) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283249)

This reminds me of the wacky dripping characters from The Matrix. Maybe the folks who designed that had played an earlier version of this... This has to be positively mind numbing when animated.

Re:Woah...Nostalgia! (1)

MrEd (60684) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283250)

True, there was no moderation, and no need for moderation, but when I went back to the archived copy of the article, I found that every comment was basically "Whoah, that is cool, ". Wouldn't you agree that while the level of petrifying natalie portmanizing trolls has gone up, the intelligent posts have kept the balance pretty much even?

Yes, twit, there is (1)

Esperandi (87863) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283252)

You give the creators too much credit. Read the damn page. This textmode quake is nothing but the synthesis of two libraries, aalib and aavga, a wrapper for aalib that turns VGA commands to svgalib into commands for aalib, the character library. You can get the source for both from that page. The thing is nothing but a script file redirecting quake to use those libraries...

sheesh

Esperandi

His disclaimer (1)

Esperandi (87863) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283253)

I think to truly embody the attitude and beliefs of the Open Source movement, this guys disclaimer really ought to be imported into the GPL as the default disclaimer. In case you didn't read, here it is:

WHAT IF IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME?
Well, don't come crying to me. Do you think I care if a useless, buggy hack for an unsupported port of a game on a free operating system doesn't work for you? Hah! Think again. Err, but if you, heh, fix anything I'd sure love to hear about it.

Esperandi

Yes, twit, it is (1)

Esperandi (87863) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283254)

You give the creators too much credit. Read the damn page. This textmode quake is nothing but the synthesis of two libraries, aalib and aavga, a wrapper for aalib that turns VGA commands to svgalib into commands for aalib, the character library. You can get the source for both from that page. The thing is nothing but a script file redirecting quake to use those libraries...

sheesh

Esperandi

sorry (1)

Esperandi (87863) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283255)

sorry, replied to the wrong post ;)

Esperandi
My previous reply should have been posted somewhere else, please completely ignore it.

Ignore, moderate down, destroy (1)

Esperandi (87863) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283256)

Sorry, replied to wrong post ;)

Esperandi

TTY anyone (1)

Adam Selene (89854) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283257)

Now, lets get a tourny going where everyone is playing this on 75 baud TTYs. You can eat lunch between screen redraws Please remember to bring your ear plugs (Chugga, Chugga, Chugga)

awesome! (1)

matticus (93537) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283258)

this is like the textmode Doom! and for Linux! oh joy! this shows that all those 1337 h4x0r d00dz are doing something constructive with their time (or something...). Now to get textmode Q3...

Re:hmm, ttys.. (1)

kcarnold (99900) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283259)

From my own experience, VNC on the Mac is much more buggy than VNC on other platforms. The Linux (Unix) server is almost perfect (just one minor modification makes it run GNOME or KDE); the Windows server works fine for most things (if you don't have it poll the whole screen (which is slow) (and sometimes even if you do) some text elements in some windows won't get updated right, but it is still quite useful), and the Mac server looked like a bad hack. Maybe that is just my experience, but it crashing on every connect just doesn't seem like reliability to me. AT&T probably has a new version (the direct link is VNC - Virtual Network Computing from AT&T Laboratories Cambridge [att.com] , courtesy of Google [google.com] ; check out their logo for today!).

VNC is really cool. It does not limit you to the X protocol, although the way the Unix server works is basically acting like an X server to X clients and a VNC server to VNC clients. This means it can work on OSes that have a closed window-update system, like Windows and Mac OS. It just polls windows for changes, if necessary, or updates windows when they receive a message, or whatever technique it wants (the two mentioned apply to the Windows server).Its advantages over an X server are that (1) the desktop is client-independant; you don't have to be running an OS on the client for which an X server has been written (there is a Java client!), and (2) for the Unix servers, if the client crashes or disconnects for any reason, the desktop stays as it was. An X server would dump all applications and you would lose your data, and (3) its compression rocks (better in many cases than GIF, and for a dynamic image!).

Yes, with a fast enough (and low-latency) link, you can play remote Quake. But why bother? Get your own!

Kenneth

Re:Woah...Nostalgia! (1)

Mutok (102249) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283260)

I think that it is one of the greatest human technological achievements, right up there with the shoehorn, highlighting tape, rubber toucans, and twisty ties... I just can't wait till there is a text-based linux port of Ultima Underworld!

The BB Demo made my day (1)

jasoegaard (103287) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283261)

Subject says it all.

Re:hmm, ttys.. (1)

shandrew (113220) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283262)

Asciimac is quite cool, although a bit unstable (as most hacks written in a few hours are).

I was watching TV in ascii the first time i tried Asciimac. It's actually quite viewable :)

Re:Woah...Nostalgia! (1)

Wigs (114191) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283263)

I knew I had seen this before.

As seen in Slashdot FAQ:

Why didn't you post my story?
On a normal day, we can get 150-200 article submissions. Typically we post 8 to 12 of them. Also, Since we post the first submission (unless we screw up- it happens occasionally) yours may have just been 2nd. Or 37th. Or else we posted it a few weeks ago and you're late. Or we may not just have found your article interesting enough. Either way, we've gotta reject 10 times more then we post, so please understand.

I guess the guys at slashdot don't like this one anymore. Perhaps it should say that if you submit it again after waiting a while, one of the guys from the there-are-too-many-author's dept. will post it.

Okay, here's the point:
You know, I've been reading slashdot for quite a while now (about 2 years). This sorta thing never used to happen at all, what is it these days? I guess I can understand one or two occasional slip-ups, but it's definately beginning to be noticable.

Wigs
Relevant quote/saying/neat sig: As I said before, I never repeat myself!

Re:This should win a freakin' award (1)

-ryan (115102) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283264)

thats great.. you had me cryin' !!!!

:-)

"Any way you look at it, all the information that a person accumulates in a lifetime is just a drop in the bucket."

ROTFL (1)

root:DavidOgg (133514) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283266)

This is really cool, dont know why, but it just seems really cool!

Incidentally, This is the preferred rendering option for S3 & ATI cards ;)

Chubby! (1)

im@peacewithouta.gov (138857) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283267)

I just got my first geekbone after visiting the website.

geekbone: (n.) a tech junky's involuntary aroused physical reaction to hardcore/extreme implementation of technology, science, electronics, etc.

Silly. (1)

desideria (140436) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283268)

This isn't new and has been around for about 1.5 years.

Re:snif... (1)

rendler (141135) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283269)

same thing happened to me so i dropped debian and went back to RH 6.0 so i could play good ol team fortress

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# iptables -A INPUT -s 0/0 -j DROP

ASCII Quake (1)

ruin (141833) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283270)

Caverns of Despair
You are in a maze of twisty, browish-grey passages, all alike.
There is a ravenous fiend here.

>kill fiend
What do you want to kill the fiend with?

>nail gun
You do not have that weapon.

The fiend leaps on you! You are torn apart by its sharp claws.

**** You have died ****

AWESUM!!1! (1)

B1FFD00D (142272) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283271)

D00D, THANKS, JAN HUBICKA FOR AALIB + KOOOLS, ARE U REAL GO1NG TO PORT AALIB 2 THE VIC-2o + DO U TH1NK I CAN PLAY QUAKE ON IT NOW??1?!?1?!

LETZ HERE 1T FOR THE C00L AWESUM ASCII GRAPH1CZ SKILZ WHEN CAN I GET AN ANS1 VURSION?!?1??

CAN WE MAKE D00M A KRACKED D00R GAME?1??

Still the coolest thing since free porn and donuts (1)

rswinford (149063) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283272)

I really do believe this is the reason i switched to linux, so i could run cool shit like this. call me crazy, but this stuff drives me wild. i remember, about two years ago formatting and partitioning my hard drive just to do this. cool code and people like this should and i hope always will exist.

Hurt me (1)

rswinford (149063) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283273)

Moderate me down if you will but why does this drivel get moderated up? Not, everything needs the source, and this site shouldn't reward those who bitch about not having it. the source is great, but this is just of the coolest geeky ideas ever, so don't complain.

This is a repost. (1)

JohnKatz (150095) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283274)

But its still cool i guess. It uses AAlib that i guess makes it easy to just replace SVGAlib with. So you could have textmode-anything_that_uses_SVGAlib. There is also a cool demo on the AA lib page called "BB". Its worth a download.

Re:Old news (1)

galexand (151650) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283275)

I authored aavga (horrible hack), so it is me who is to blame for the keyboard input not working properly. As to it being linked against libncurses3...you can just recompile it all yourself...I'm not even sure if that's what I linked it against. :) It only exists in black and white. you can add a bold attribute and make it go 8-bit if you compile aalib right (I again don't know how it's default compiled), but that doesn't add much. For some graphical improvement, zaphraud@anorexia.org has posted a message on the aalib mailing list saying improvement can be gained with random+dithering with a small patch.. If anyone wants, I can forward that email to them.

Re:This is a repost. (1)

galexand (151650) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283276)

Yeah, that aalib stuff is great. I'm surprised someone noticed that this could be applied to almost anything with svgalib. caveats: aavga is a horrible hack and won't support the calls for many other programs (in other words, you'll find yourself adding to the library for every new program) linux doom is originally linked against libc4 svgalib so it can't be used with this hack

Re:Yes, twit, it is (1)

galexand (151650) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283277)

I want to clarify where credit is due: true ttyquake is just a distribution, but the fact of the matter is that aavga as I released it is very difficult to use and badly packaged. also, almost all of the work is in aalib. I don't think that it's fair to list aavga and aalib in the same sentence as similarly sized projects, aavga is a small piece of crappy code, and I'm rather embarrassed that so many people have seen it. The keyboard handling, espeically, could be done a thousand times better if I'd known people were gonna downlaod it.

Re:misc feelings (1)

galexand (151650) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283278)

there is source to aalib, and source to aavga. Both are mentioned on the ttyquake page though not available directly in teh ttyquake package. I think you're giving aavga too much credit...it is just an aalib wrapper to implement svgalib functionality, it certainly does not handle even a tiny subset of X, it's totally separate. If someone did write an X server that used aalib, that would be hella cool, though. :)

Hmm. (2)

dougman (908) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283279)

As someone who has worn out more modems than I care to admit over the last 15 years, I personally would admit getting a kick out of an ANSI BBS door port of Quake. On principle.

The point being, while I love 3d grafx, and GUIs and all, and I'm no Luddite, I loved the increased stimulation of one's mind and sense of community that the "golden years" of text/ANSI based modeming carried. Sigh. Sorry. I apologize. Nostalgia mode OFF.

Re:awesome! (2)

Pascal Q. Porcupine (4467) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283280)

It kinda exists already. There's a GGI target for Mesa, and there's an AAlib target for GGI; by extension, there's an AAlib target for Quake3. :) It'll be really fscking slow unless you turn off texture filtering, though, and even then Q3 is quite unplayable (not that being in textmode would make it any easier).

To turn off the filtering, BTW, you have to start up Q3, bring up the console, wait a billion years for the console to become visible, set the texture mode to GL_NEAREST, and wait a billion years again. It'd seem there's no way to keep Q3's texture filtering off by default unless they changed their mind since q3test 1.08 (even if you set the texture mode in the config, it'd revert to the default of bilinear, and there was no way to select anything less than bilinear in any GUI). Kind of annoying, since there ARE some cards out there with sufficient fillrate which don't implement filtering in hardware (the Riva 128 springs to mind), and just because it won't be quite as pretty on those cards doesn't mean they should be unsupported entirely... I mean, come ON, it probably takes more code to *disallow* them (by forcing at least bilinear filtering).

Oops, heh, sorry about that. But anyway, yes, you can most likely do aalib rendering for Quake3 already, but it'll be [even more of] a pain to deal with.
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"'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine [nmsu.edu] .

Re:Sure (2)

Pascal Q. Porcupine (4467) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283281)

That's nothin'. Check out my user info page. :) (And I've had that for a few days now.)

Oh, and the original picture is hidden in my website [trikuare.cx] (yes, that's the diplomat photo for the porcupine race I added to Civ:CTP during LokiHack).
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"'Is not a quine' is not a quine" is a quine [nmsu.edu] .

Do you always look at it in code? (2)

Accipiter (8228) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283283)

What? I don't even see the code. All I see is Blonde, Brunette, Redhead...

-- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?

Re:Marketing? Deadlines? Pah.... (2)

Accipiter (8228) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283285)

ACK! MODERATE DOWN! WRONG ARTICLE!!!

Sorry. :(

-- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?

hmm, ttys.. (2)

mcc (14761) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283286)

there is, for the mac, an extention called Asciimac [mit.edu] . Basically what it does is take the mac os's display and render it in ASCII art in real time on the screen. It is somewhere between incredibly scary and amazing. It won a MacHack award a couple years ago and is somewhat open source.

I wonder if it would be possible to rewrite it so that it sent text over an ANSI telnet connection instead of to the screen? hmm.

i was actually wondering just now if it would be possible to hijack the mac's video drivers or patch all the quicktime traps or something in order to create an X client for the mac os.. but it would have never occured to me to do it with terminal emulation instead if i hadn't seen this.. :)

Re:Woah...Nostalgia! (2)

grappler (14976) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283288)

No kidding...

rereading that article, I am drawn back to the days when:

-There was no moderation
-There was no need for moderation

and its kinda interesting that one guy said, "only on a friday could something like this be posted" and now, here it is on a friday when it was reposted!

--
grappler

A really perverse thought... (2)

Soko (17987) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283289)

Quake on an old LA120. Just in case you hate trees.

misc feelings (2)

FonkiE (28352) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283290)

1) there is no source.
2) it doesn't work with quakeforge.
3) and did i mention it: there is no source.

Re:Woah...Nostalgia! (2)

Wah (30840) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283291)

the intelligent posts have kept the balance pretty much even?

go read a katz thread...
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those textmode screenshots made my eyes bleed, seriously, it was painful.

Re:Woah...Nostalgia! (2)

Duxup (72775) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283292)

Slashdot
Old News for Nerds. Stuff That Matters . . . Again.

BBS Flashback (2)

nezroy (84641) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283293)

Oh man baby... back when I was running my BBS, I told people this day was in the not so distant future... no one beleived me.. they called me mad, insane, crazy... ha! Ha ha! My genius is proved! All those hours of creating intricate BBS artwork with the ASCII character set vindicated! My day of glory has arrived! The future has arrived... we've come full circle... the cycle is copmlete... Muwah... muwah... muwahHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......

wrong... very wrong... (3)

cabbey (8697) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283294)

the only thing that could possibly be more wrong than this is the advert flashing at the top of my /. window when I read it, for a linux asp server....

You know what's really terrifying? (3)

Simon Brooke (45012) | more than 14 years ago | (#1283295)

On the AA Project home page, there's a section on 'Software known to support AA'; and there, second on the list, is The GIMP [gimp.org] . textmode GIMP! Waaahhh, that is so perverse. I greatly fear I shall have to play with this...
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