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Scientology Injunction Denied Against "Anonymous"

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 6 years ago | from the much-gnashing-of-teeth dept.

The Courts 486

Anonymous writes "A circuit court judge has denied the Church of Scientology's second request for an injunction against protests by the internet group "Anonymous." The Church sought to prevent Anonymous from protesting on the birthday of the Church's leader, the late Ron L. Hubbard. The petition filed by the Church listed twenty-six individuals allegedly affiliated with Anonymous, but "accidentally" included others who merely work near the location of the first protests held in February and did not participate in them, such as a Starbucks employee. Furthermore, the Church failed to show that any of those listed actually committed any wrongdoing."

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Frist p0st 4 teh lulz (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758142)

Frist p0st 4 teh lulz

Yay! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758144)

I win!

IRL raids (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758146)

IRL raids are not anonymous' forte. I still don't see anything coming of them. Some of us perceive ourselves as having the power to make a difference. I doubt that, because our numbers are too few.

Re:IRL raids (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758212)

Anonymous protests of Scientology convinces those who are in with doubts to act on those doubts.

Eventually the Scilons can't keep it up and it'll collapse.

Re:IRL raids (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758222)

Yeah, all those ex-scientologists coming out of the woodwork telling their tales of abuse because they felt empowered by the actions of Anonymous sure don't mean a thing. The mounds of leaked documents and emails exposing the illegal conduct of the "church" aren't worthy of comment. Or exscientologykids.org popping up to tell the tales of the children of cult executives who grew up inside the organization is kind of a pointless story. And the massive amount of public awareness of all of those things, all as a direct result of Anonymous showing support to those trapped inside a horrific cult is just a bunch of hooey. Oh, yeah, and those who have gotten out of the cult as a direct result? Pshaw.

Yup, you're right, might as well not even try.

Re:IRL raids (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758364)

So are you protesting the church or the organization? If the former you are not allowed. If you don't agree with the church, don't participate it is that easy. If the latter then by all means, protest the organization but remember to separate the 2.

Re:IRL raids (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758388)

Are you stupid or drunk? It should be obvious by the context what exactly I'm protesting. If you're not capable of basic reading comprehension I'm not going to waste my time explaining it to you.

I will, however, waste my time insulting your intelligence. Because that's fun.

Re:IRL raids (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758408)

care to explain why?

Re:IRL raids (1)

NekoIncardine (838965) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758450)

I'm going to be polite and assume you meant "the religion or the organization". It would not be cool to protest Christianity, but it is PERFECTLY okay to protest Westboro Baptist Church. By the same vein, it's not cool even among Anons to insult Scientology itself - but the CHURCH of Scientology (as opposed to the Freezone)?

Re:IRL raids (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758530)

It's sometimes hard to seperate the two.

For example, protesting the Church of Mormon is to forget their holy book says that black people are black because of sin and they can become white with prayer. Freezone scilons are just that, free. They discard everything the church has to say about restricting freedoms and as such have a similar but yet distinctly different faith. Just like the sect of Mormonism founded by Joeseph Smith's relatives who broke with Brigham Young.

Grab Your Masks! (3, Informative)

MostAwesomeDude (980382) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758150)

Get out there, show how fed up you are with these people. It's not hard to protest; just show up, wear a mask, and stand on the sidewalk.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758162)

Click on "Post Anonymously", idiot.

The ides of March (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758372)

The ides of March are afoot. Tomorrow is the day.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (1)

LM741N (258038) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758226)

I think masks are now illegal. Scientology would just sue you as John Mask instead of John Doe.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758260)

So wear a Burqua or a Hijab or whatever it's called... the masks the insecure muslims make their women wear so they can pretend it's still the 8th century. American law enforcement is so terrified of offending the delicate sensibilities of the muslims they'd NEVER enforce the law against wearing masks in public.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (-1, Flamebait)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758328)

American law enforcement is so terrified of offending the delicate sensibilities of the muslims they'd NEVER enforce the law against wearing masks in public.

God forbid if we should offend someone! This is America. We don't walk around wearing masks, even if they're called burquas, hijabs, or whatever you call those green masks with Arabic writing that elected Hamas "officials" wear so you can't see their faces while they announce how they'll blow up Israel and America. People here walk around with their faces uncovered like normal people do. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT, GO LIVE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY! PREFERABLY ONE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!

Re:Grab Your Masks! (1)

cuantar (897695) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758368)

Normal by your standards. Americans sometimes seem pretty fuckin' weird to people from other cultures. It's not exactly normal to have a belly roll in Japan, for example.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (4, Informative)

KodaK (5477) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758290)

Yes. Masks are illegal. Halloween is now outlawed.

(To be fair, yes, some locations have laws against protesting in masks, or in any way that would obscure the face. However this varies greatly by location and there's certainly no blanket "masks are illegal" law like you're suggesting.)

Re:Grab Your Masks! (3, Interesting)

sg_oneill (159032) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758400)

In the US at least, theres good reason as well to believe that anti-protest-mask laws are probably unconstitutional. Anything that limits anonymous speech probably is a violation of the first amendment, since losing anonymity can have a 'chilling' effect.

Not sure if its tested in court.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (4, Insightful)

Dan541 (1032000) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758492)

I think masks are now illegal. Scientology would just sue you as John Mask instead of John Doe.
Huh? If masks are illegal then muslim veils must also be illegal since its a form of mask.

~Dan

Masks !?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758276)

What are you, some kind of coward, afraid to link your identity to your words and deeds?

Re:Grab Your Masks! (3, Insightful)

quokkapox (847798) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758324)

Except "these people" haven't done anything to directly harm me or my family or friends.

I'm more concerned about the fundamentalist Christianists and Islamists (yes, in that order, at least here in the U.S.).

Most people know the Scientologists are nuts. But most "moderate" religious people tolerate the extremists among their ranks.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758394)

Most people know the Scientologists are nuts. But most "moderate" religious people tolerate the extremists among their ranks.

Yuo Fail. Most don't. Most Muslims (at least, two with whom I work) don't want to murder me. Most Christians (I work with dozens of them) deplore Fred Phelps and his ilk. Teh J00z? Couple of them at my office. They don't eat pork, they do drink wine. Buddhists? They think all us Abrahamic folks are a little strange, but if that's our way of following the Path, then we're entitled to it.

When it comes to tolerating extremism, the Scilons [slashdot.org] are right up there with the asshats from Afghanistan.

The Scilons can go right ahead and believe in the Xenu story. It's not much weirder than the creation myths of any real religion. All Anonymous is asking is that they stop trying to kill the people who think differently. No violence, no coercion, and why does their God need a battalion of copyright lawyers anyway?

Re:Grab Your Masks! (3, Insightful)

ortholattice (175065) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758434)

Except "these people" haven't done anything to directly harm me or my family or friends.

You've heard it before: "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Socialist. ..."

I'm more concerned about the fundamentalist Christians and Islamists (yes, in that order, at least here in the U.S.).

And these should be protested and exposed just as vigorously. Especially the first, since they have voted into office the current leaders who are destroying our economy and our country's future with this inane war, if they haven't already done so. Oh, and our privacy and freedom too, while we're at it.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (1, Insightful)

Threni (635302) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758460)

> I'm more concerned about the fundamentalist Christianists and Islamists (yes, in that order, at least here in the U.S.).

I'm more concerned about street crime than global warming, but that doesn't mean we should do nothing about global warming. Or does worrying about Islamists (whatever the hell that means) take all your spare time?

> But most "moderate" religious people tolerate the extremists among their ranks.

You're full of shit.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (5, Insightful)

Oligonicella (659917) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758484)

I'll bet neither have the fundie Christians or Islamists done anything directly to harm you and yours. "Nuts" and murder, extortion, false accusations, kidnapping and other activities are worlds apart.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758352)

Don't wear a mask. Masks are illegal in many states, unless you are part of a theatrical performace, under 16, or have a qualifying medical condition to wear one. Scarves over the face may have to come off too. Wear huge sunglasses, wigs and hats. Those are legal.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (1, Insightful)

code601 (862671) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758402)

Can someone spent a few seconds and explain the need for the masks and hiding your identity during the protest? Thanks

Re:Grab Your Masks! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758430)

explain the need for the mask

They are so the cult doesn't make you a target.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (5, Informative)

sqrt(2) (786011) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758498)

The cult of Scientology has a long and documented history of harassing critics. It's just prudent for your own safety and the safety of your family to keep your identity hidden. They also film the protest activities from their buildings and disguised surveillance vehicles so if you're not wearing a mask the Co$ will start a file on you, they have an entire agency that does this.

Re:Grab Your Masks! (1)

Dan541 (1032000) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758510)

Can someone spent a few seconds and explain the need for the masks and hiding your identity during the protest?

Thanks
annonimity aka free speech

Anonymous wins again! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758152)

Ha! I was totally there!

Scientology is NOT being attacked by Anonymous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758170)

The true Anonymous enjoys the lulz provided by Scientology.

These fail "raids" are being organized by the newfag cancer that has infested the chans. They believe Anonymous is an Internet superhero.

DO NOT SUPPORT THE CANCER.

SAGE.

Re:Scientology is NOT being attacked by Anonymous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758198)

Your pain. It amuses me.

Re:Scientology is NOT being attacked by Anonymous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758346)

Your failure. It amazes me.

Re:Scientology is NOT being attacked by Anonymous (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758214)

sage goes in all fields newfag

Re:Scientology is NOT being attacked by Anonymous (-1, Offtopic)

Frozen Void (831218) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758230)

Oldfags are the Alzheimers killing 4chan.

Re:Scientology is NOT being attacked by Anonymous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758362)

Nobody cares about what namefags think.

Re:Scientology is NOT being attacked by Anonymous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758244)

sage goes in all fields

Rope (1)

snowful (1231472) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758182)

Give 'em enough of it and they will end up hanging themselves. I think they are their own worst enemy. They don't bother me.

OMG Evil in the courthouse!1!!1!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758202)

The judge is teh Xenu! Evil thetans rule the Earth! Tom to the rescue!

Germany got it right... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758204)

Scientology is a cult, pure and simple. I always thought it would be a fascinating exercise to research the lobbying efforts that got them tax-free status in the US and Canada.

Re:Germany got it right... (1, Interesting)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758248)

And the difference between a cult and a religion is.... ?

THe only answer is "The number of followers". Hate them for their actions, fine. But they're no less- and no more- plausible a religion than Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, etc.

Re:Germany got it right... (5, Insightful)

Kierthos (225954) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758314)

Actually, I would say that the Church of Scientology is both less plausible of a religion then those you mentioned, and less of an actual religion (and more of a business).

Bypassing the obvious science fiction elements of Scientology, there is this simple fact.

You have to pay (out the nose) to be a member in good standing in the Church of Scientology. While other religions have practices of tithing and/or charities, they are not required in order to progress in the understanding of the faith.

In Scientology, you have to pay to take the courses that ultimately give you the Xenu/volcanic explosions/thetans story. You have to pay many thousands of dollars before you get access to this "knowledge".

Show me the secret books of the Bible or the Qu'ran that only the followers who have ponied up tens of thousands of dollars get to see. You can't. There aren't any such books.

IMAO, Scientology is at best, a business designed to empty the wallets of the gullible. At worst, it is a scam and an extortion campaign.

Re:Germany got it right... (5, Informative)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758380)

Show me the secret books of the Bible or the Qu'ran that only the followers who have ponied up tens of thousands of dollars get to see. You can't. There aren't any such books.

As a matter of fact, according to Jewish Halacha Law, it is ILLEGAL to charge money for the teaching of the Torah. The knowledge this work contains belongs to the whole world.

Re:Germany got it right... (2, Informative)

Antique Geekmeister (740220) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758502)

There are also plenty of fascinating documents in the Vatican Library, including the Dead Sea Scrools, which are not available for public review. The "Kabbalah" also involves keeping interesting secrets from the uninitiated.

Re:Germany got it right... (2, Informative)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758398)

IMAO, Scientology is at best, a business designed to empty the wallets of the gullible. At worst, it is a scam and an extortion campaign.


That pretty much describes all religions. Read up on religious history, money and power almost always flows to the church.

Re:Germany got it right... (4, Interesting)

Oligonicella (659917) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758448)

No. You missed the point of designed. Others have eveolved toward that direction by the fact that inherently greedy people gravitate toward structures and manipulate them, but SciFientology was designed as a scam.

Re:Germany got it right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758422)

More than a business, to me the CoS appears to be a totalitarian state within a free state. You have your cult of personality (Elron), internal labor camps (don't remember what they're called at the moment, Ethics something, look it up at xenu.net), a private navy (Sea Org), and even an intelligence organization (used to be the Guardian Office, I have no idea what they're called now).

They've just replaced the cudgel with the lawsuit (for those outside the organization), and exclusion (for those within). And it's not so clear they are above the use of brute force either, when you take into consideration Fair Game (again, re-euphemized with a name I don't know) and the entire McPherson affair.

Re:Germany got it right... (5, Interesting)

Ai Olor-Wile (997427) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758336)

First: Anonymous is not protesting the beliefs of Scientology. Anonymous is protesting their actions, and the amount of money they make off of their religious stuff. For these reason, Scientology is often classified as akin to pyramid scheme or something similar (obviously not an actual pyramid scheme) rather than a cult. Most so-called cults tend focus their effort on enslaving their followers to perform menial labour rather than spending time farming their members' current sources of income.

Second: The technical, traditional meaning of "cult" strictly refers to the priests and priestesses of a god or goddess in a pantheon. Aphrodite had a cult, Isis had a cult, and, at one point, your friend and mine, Jesus had a cult (he had about three hundred followers on a commune at one point, if I recall.) By contrast, a religion may include more than one god and encompasses those who simply believe as well. The media term "cult" generally refers to what academics call a "dangerous NRM" (new religious movement). "Dangerous NRM" supports your statement that it is a real religion and not something fundamentally different, but it is important to note the "dangerous" part. Wicca is a non-dangerous NRM. Heaven's Gate is a dangerous NRM. The difference is best related through a number of techniques that dangerous NRMs frequently use:

  • Physical barriers or a social hierarchy which prevent leaving.
  • Financial dependence (and exploitation) of members.
  • Isolation (especially physical) from non-followers.
  • Sometimes, psychological control tactics, such as never allowing an individual member to be alone (where they might think for themselves and realise that This Is A Bad Idea) or hypnotic controls that encourage a trance-like state (physical exhaustion + certain rhythms = bad)


Another strong indicator of an NRM is the presence of a single, charismatic leader figure, like David Koresh or Jim Jones. (Both of whom eventually killed most of their followers, but were extremely well-respected by them. Jim Jones was even respected by main-stream Christian religion during his life time.) For this reason, and possible other reasons, Christianity actually satisfies both the traditional and modern definitions of "cult" (although whether that is a dangerous or non-dangerous NRM is another topic entirely.)

Books are great like that.

Re:Germany got it right... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758436)

Except, and here's the thing some of you are failing to grasp: Scientology, at its core, is abusive. It's structure is such that it systematically strips its followers of their free will, and thus their cash.

I'm a god-hating atheist too, but as much as I dislike traditional religions (for different reasons) the abuses of Scientology, in this day and age, are almost as bad as the Inquisition in its day. The difference is that, again, in this day and age, we can do something about it.

Just saying "it's just as bad, oh well" is a lazy cop out.

Besides, this isn't about their beliefs, this is about the abuses they perpetrate. The "fair game" policy, the special tax exempt status, the disconnection policy, all of that stuff adds up. They're worse than you think, especially if you're still at the "meh, they're silly" stage. They're much, much worse.

Yes, fundamentalism is bad, we're all aware of that. But most fundies aren't near as bad (when all aspects are considered) as the CoS. I'll concede that those that kill for their religion are more reprehensible -- but then again so would most regular people who are in those religions. In the CoS, Hubbard's way is the only way. It's an enitre religion of fundies who want to "clear the planet" -- and this includes you, by the way.

no point of attack (1)

yurivr (1252248) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758206)

With nothing concrete for the CoS to attack, they will hopefully hang themselves and save us the trouble. I predict a swelling of Anonymous' ranks and copycat groups in the near future.

Re:no point of attack (4, Funny)

LM741N (258038) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758242)

We've had anonymous groups for decades- Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, Codependents Anonymous, Marijuana Anonymous, Anonymous Anonymous.

Re:no point of attack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758258)

I predict a swelling of Anonymous' ranks and copycat groups in the near future.

Anonymous is...anonymous. How could you tell a copycat group from the real thing? That's kinda the point, you know.

In other news: (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758236)

In Adelaide they submitted a march of their own to the council [anonsa.org], nullifying our permit. It went ahead anyway, with well over two hundred attending: News story [news.com.au], Gallery [news.com.au].

We're never going to give them up, never going to let them down.

Re:In other news: (4, Funny)

quokkapox (847798) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758374)

We're never going to give them up, never going to let them down.

Wow, an inline rickroll.

Fuck. I just now got ABBA out of my head, and I was going to go to sleep. Take a chance on me. FUCK.

Re:In other news: (1)

cartman (18204) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758482)

You are the dancing queen, young and sweet, only seventeen /
Dancing queen, feel the beat from the tambourine /
You can dance, you can jive, having the time of your life /
See that girl, watch that scene, dig in the dancing queen

Button pushing (1)

Derosian (943622) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758252)

Scientology's button pushing doesn't work so well when they can't find the machine the button's on.

Touched a nerve? (4, Insightful)

H0p313ss (811249) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758262)

An "injunction against protests"? In the US? Wow! They must have really touched a nerve. Keep it up!

Of course CoS had any sense at all they'd just ignore the whole thing until it blows over... but I'm counting on CoS to blow it way out of proportion. Which is exactly what Anonymous wants.

This could be an interesting showdown, especially if the protests continue to be disciplined and, well... funny!

Scientology playing dirty (5, Interesting)

DKlineburg (1074921) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758280)

Here is what Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] said:

This article or section has multiple issues. Please help improve the article or discuss these issues on the talk page.
It needs sources or references that appear in third-party publications. Tagged since February 2008.
It may require general cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. Tagged since February 2008.
It may contain improper references to self-published sources. Tagged since February 2008.

I would have a hunch, that the "Church" itself is causing the problems on the page. First The war starts [wired.com]. They impose there beliefs and pull web pages from Google [wired.com]. I have seen a few things that they have done to try and put "Anonymous" in a bad light. I wish I could find the link, and maybe someone out there knows it. It is of a group of protesters getting arrested. The "Church" said it was "Anonymous". This was quickly debunked they the comments around the article, and found that the pictures where taken from a real protest elsewhere, and not an "Anonymous" protest. All and all i think the "Church" is a bunch of bull and don't play fair with others.

I'm now prepared to get buried by the "Church" for my negative comments against them.

Re:Scientology playing dirty (1)

compro01 (777531) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758358)

I would have a hunch, that the "Church" itself is causing the problems on the page.
that's been happening for some time. that article may be the most contriversal article short of muhammad.

Re:Scientology playing dirty (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758458)

I have seen a few things that they have done to try and put "Anonymous" in a bad light.

Do they not understand that the point of an anonymous enemy is that they must fight a phantom? Do they not understand that they can not measure the size of their enemy and they can not know who it is? Do they not understand that anyone can join against them at any time simply by being anonymous? Can they not see that no one and every one is against them? It will be their fear and paranoia that ultimately destroy them as they look at the faces of anonymity all around and feel consuming distrust of everyone. This hell drives one to great turmoil and eats one from inside out--for them, this hell is a reality.

In Germany, scientology is not a church (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758282)

In Germany, scientology is not called a church, but a company. I think the greed parameter built into scientology makes it a company. /AC

Wikipedia featured article is... (1)

Fallen Andy (795676) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758296)

The south park episode "Trapped in the Closet". Hmm. The Xenu conspiracy is growing!!

On a more serious note though one wonders how long before they flip completely and emulate Aum Shinrikyo or Jim Jones...

FBI etc keep a *close* eye on them.

Andy

Lets be fair to the Hubberdites (-1, Flamebait)

coren2000 (788204) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758298)

Hey folks... if you bother to read the article it explains how Scientologists are getting death threats from this group.

I don't agree with Scientology's tactics of suing anyone that looks at them funny... but they need to protect themselves from a group of psychos.

One one side you have the Anonymous Cowards who threaten murder, and on the other side you have Cultists who threaten lawsuits.... which one is more barbaric do you think?

Re:Lets be fair to the Hubberdites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758326)

While I don't doubt that there certainly are some idiot anons, the general consensus is that the CoS has been making up the vast majority of the threats themselves. The video they like to quote listing the threats was flagged and removed due to the actions of legions of Anonymous (and others.)

This is exactly the kind of "fair game" tactic that Anonymous are protesting. Their method of dealing with criticism is "always attack, never defend" and thus their words should never be trusted.

This is a pattern of behavior consistent with the actions of the CoS that has been going on since the 1950s. Critics are harassed and threatened. Do yourself a favor and google "operation freakout" and read up on what they did to Paulette Cooper when she tried to write a book on the Church in the 1980s.

Re:Lets be fair to the Hubberdites (5, Informative)

Kierthos (225954) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758330)

You are aware of Operation Freakout [wikipedia.org], are you not? Wherein, among other criminal activities, Scientologists basically sent bomb threats to themselves with circumstantial evidence incriminating an author, Paulette Cooper, who wrote a book which was critical of the Church of Scientology?

I'm not saying that any or all of the death threats that the Scientologists are receiving are bogus, but there is already an established history of them attempting to manipulate the courts against people critical of them.

Re:Lets be fair to the Hubberdites (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758332)

On the other hand it is hard to decide whether some of the deaths caused by the cult are murder or manslaughter. I would say both groups have barbarians in their ranks.

Re:Lets be fair to the Hubberdites (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758334)

Hey folks... if you bother to read the article it explains how Scientologists are getting death threats from this group.
Lies. Vicious lies and slander.

Now excuse me, I have a couple of, uh, "cocktails" to prepare for Tom Cruise.

Re:Lets be fair to the Hubberdites (1, Insightful)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758354)

Hey folks... if you bother to read the article it explains how Scientologists are getting death threats from this group.

Good. The CoS is known to be involved in murder, torture and sexual abuse. Forget "non-violent" protest, get stuck in there.

Photograph them. Follow them. Follow them home and photograph them entering and leaving their houses. Keep shouting "Murderer!" at them, if you can. Harass them. Make their lives hell.

Don't waste your time griefing in Sadville, do it In Real Life. Make the CoS thoroughly miserable.

Re:Lets be fair to the Hubberdites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758366)

And in all likelyhood those threats are coming from the Church of Scientology itself. Its the very same tactic they pulled against Paulette Cooper ages ago. It was later revealed that they tried to frame her in order to discredit her (she was a reporter who wrote a critical article about Scientology)

Re:Lets be fair to the Hubberdites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758468)

Anonymous wouldn't really kill anyone. It's all a big gag on squares like you.

*ahem* I mean, ANONYMOUS DOES NOT FORGIVE. GET YOUR DOGS, AND CURTAINS, LEST YOU LIVE NO MORE!

In the interest of journalism, look here [4chan.org], especially the "random" board.

In before rules 1 and 2.

Re:Lets be fair to the Hubberdites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758508)

Thanks for posting, my CoS member friend.

They are forgetting. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758302)

What alot of 'anonymous' are forgetting is that they _must_ only be protesting the organization Scientology, not the religion. If they keep that up it will keep them out of harms way.

Re:They are forgetting. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758464)

What you _must_ be forgetting is the Anonymous is a bunch of 14-year old kids, who don't understand the subtleties of anything more complex than American Idol. They're about one step above the average 4-channer. They only get that one step because they actually go outside once in awhile.

Re:They are forgetting. (1, Informative)

Loligo (12021) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758476)

>They're about one step above the average 4-channer.

Uhh... "Anonymous" IS a bunch of 4chan'ers. Or at least started there.

The Church of rice_burners_suck. (1, Funny)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758310)

The Church of Scientology. Hmph! How a religion can be invented so easily by someone who wakes up in the morning one day and just feels like making one up.

I am hereby inventing a new religion. My religion shall be called rice_burners_suck, and its adherents shall be called rice_burners_suckers. One important parameter of a religion is how many deities its adherents believe in. This is a religion of a unique type, where instead of zero, one, or multiple deities, the number of deities is negative one. This concept is often difficult for newcomers to grasp, since when counting anything, one must begin at one and proceed through the positive numbers. However, we believe that a person must work towards achieving faith in God, and believing that there is negative one of Him is part of achieving that faith.

Besides, if God can do anything, then He can choose to be counted in negative numbers.

So why not protest? (1)

cyofee (975070) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758312)

If you're gonna get sued for just being alive anyway, why not join the protest?

RIAA run by the church of scientology (5, Funny)

gorbachev (512743) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758338)

"The petition filed by the Church listed twenty-six individuals allegedly affiliated with Anonymous, but "accidentally" included others who merely work near the location of the first protests held in February and did not participate in them, such as a Starbucks employee. Furthermore, the Church failed to show that any of those listed actually committed any wrongdoing.""

OMG! I think I get it now!

RIAA is run by the church of scientology!

That explains everything!

How'd the get the starbucks employee? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758340)

Is the CoS now running license plates of nearby parked cars?

Re:How'd the get the starbucks employee? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758406)

Yes, that's actually one of the things they do -they video tape everything and then comb through the footage looking for anything (identifying clothes, distinctive features, license plate numbers) they can use to identify their Suppressive Persons (ie their critics).

Posting anonymously to prevent an IRL karma hit. :-/

Party Hard: It started in Sydney and Perth (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758342)

Sydney [flickr.com] and Perth [flickr.com] protests are up.

Hey, Europe! Just woke up? Not doing anything today? Check out what those Brits in London did on February 10th. Place your bets on whether you can top that.

Shouting out to NYC, where the Scilons sent out "volunteer" "ministers" to "body route" some "fresh meat" as the Twin Towers still smoldered? Canuckistans in the depths of frozen Ottawa and Toronto? Chicago? Tampa? How about those citizens of Occupied Clearwater who still remember when their city was still known as a tourist destination and not as a strategic base for the Scilon Empire?

YOU. You out there, reading this in Phoenix? Vegas? San Francisco? Portland? Vancouver? You think you can beat the turnout from those East Coasters?

As Operation Party Hard works its way around the planet, you know what to do.

CAPTCHA: PERSIST

Whats wrong with america? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758348)

Why did the Scientology cult get the status of a church there? If you are an american, you should ask your politicians, what can be done to undo this error.

Re:Whats wrong with america? (2, Informative)

muuh-gnu (894733) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758490)

> Why did the Scientology cult get the status of a church there?

They didn't. Being a church isnt a kind of a legal status, so everybody can call himself a church. Even text editor [dina.kvl.dk] users. To make it a legal title you first would have to define what a church is, and scientology then easily would change their business practices and methods to meet this new definition. In the end, you'd gain nothing.

Re:Whats wrong with america? (-1, Troll)

kaos07 (1113443) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758516)

When did a bunch of adolescents with too much time on their hands get to be in the news every few days and on the front page of Slashdot.

I'm no fan of Scientology but is no one else a bit bored with "Anonymous" and their self-indulgent attention seeking?

Re:Whats wrong with america? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758522)

When did a bunch of adolescents with too much time on their hands get to be in the news every few days and on the front page of Slashdot.

Adolescents? Seems like you have information the rest of us don't. Care to share?

Re:Whats wrong with america? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758526)

Why did the Scientology cult get the status of a church there?
They didn't. The US government doesn't officially recognize churches.

If you are an american, you should ask your politicians, what can be done to undo this error.
There's no error. The law works the way it's supposed to.

It's called 501(c)(3) [wikipedia.org]. Scientology-related organizations that comply with 501(c)(3) are exempt from the federal income tax. Scientology-related organizations that do not comply are not exempt.

I would not be the least bit surprised... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758418)

if the suitcase mentioned in the article had been planted by the CoS itself to direct a public backlash against Anonymous. You can say I might need to loosen my tinfoil hat, but these sorts of tactics are precisely what the CoS does. They are extremely good at social and psychological engineering. These people are not stupid. They are unbelievably dangerous. Attempts to discredit them by mocking their beliefs in space aliens coming to Earth on DC-10s is a double-edged sword, because it then becomes far too easy to dismiss them as idiots, and not take them seriously. Their vast financial resources speak to the contrary. Now, posting as AC, I'm *sure* to get comments about my tinfoil hat.

Does Annymous exist? (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758452)

It seems so loose nit that just about anyone could claim to be part of anonymous. It's hardly an organisation. More the name of a movement. A bit like Lolcat or rick-rolling or any of other countless memes.

Re:Does Annymous exist? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22758506)

Anonymous isn't something you join it's something you participate in.

The Judge's ruling reads as follows: (1)

rlanctot (310750) | more than 6 years ago | (#22758532)

"Denied, sir! You are the Mayor of Deniedsville! You are also teh suk. Get yourself a law degree, and a clue."

Baliff: "You've just been served!"

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