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Summer of Code'08 Organizations List Announced

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the meet-your-mentors-and-your-masterse dept.

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kulbirsaini writes "Google has announced the list of accepted organizations for the Google Summer of Code 2008. 'No doubt many would-be Summer of Code students are wondering what their next steps should be. We've changed the program timeline this year, leaving a week in between the announcement of accepted mentoring organizations and opening for student applications. Use this week to meet your potential mentors and discuss your project ideas with them, and keep on eye on the program mailing lists, as we'll post notes about additional resources for learning about our mentoring organizations.'"

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mod this -1 troll, please (-1, Troll)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780512)

mod this -1 troll, please

i have nothing to say, but my parents never taught me that if you have nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all, so here i am trolling /. so mod me -1 troll.

Re:mod this -1 troll, please (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22780560)

my parents never taught me that if you have nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all
If that's the case, why are you posting? You don't have anything nice to say, and you weren't taught to not say nothing, so you should be saying nothing.

Re:mod this -1 troll, please (-1, Offtopic)

RuBLed (995686) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780590)

You are such a nice lad and Slashdot is such a nice, refreshing and welcoming community. ...and I love Bill Gates.

Re:mod this -1 troll, please (-1, Offtopic)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780624)

I love Bill Gates too!

Is it possible... (-1, Flamebait)

Sterrance (1257342) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780532)

Is it possible to hate Google (besides Monkey Boy Balmer)? I really can't think of one negative thing about them, I really love them. Larry/Sergey for 2008!

Re:Is it possible... (3, Interesting)

WaltBusterkeys (1156557) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780826)

There are plenty of people outside Redmond who still hate Google.

Some people are upset with the recent Google-Youtube-China [informationweek.com] situation. It's obviously not entirely Google's fault, but it's not a comfortable situation.

Lots of people think that Google has serious privacy problems [google-watch.org] . Not everyone thinks these are limited to its own data collection either--sometimes Google knows too much [reputation...erblog.com] .

Some people think Google mis-manages its Adsense platform [here-n-there.com] and hurts small publishers.

And lots of people are upset about PageRank -- from those who get a zero PR for no clear reason, to sites that get dropped, to anti-hate groups that dislike it when pro-hate groups get high rankings.

I don't know if any of those are GOOD reasons to hate Google, but plenty of people DO.

Re:Is it possible... (1)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 6 years ago | (#22781054)

All those things I think are really weak arguments. I don't encourage any one to like|love|adore any company. But as far as reasons go to dislike a company, these are pretty weak ones -- for me at least.

Issue 1 : Google follows local law. It concerns me a lot more when companies think they are above local law.

Issue 2 and Issue 3: people make (and have) too much personal data available online (as far as I know Google is mining private DBs and making that data available). I am far more worried about the fact that advertisers seem to get my new addresses as soon as I connect up utilities.

Issue 4: Google screwed me on Adwords too.. which reminds me I need to remove it from my site... done! (thanks for reminding me to do that). I never got a dime from years of having their ads on my site. Adsense/Adwords is poorly managed. I suggest people drop their accounts if they don't like it. I don't hate them because of it, I strongly dislike and will not use their Adwords/Adsense service.

Re:Is it possible... (1)

Alioth (221270) | more than 6 years ago | (#22782590)

THat's quite ironic - an anti-hate group hating Google :-)

My observations (2, Interesting)

pongo000 (97357) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780538)

In the FWIW dept: I spent several hours this afternoon monitoring the #gsoc forum. Kudos to lh for taking the time to critique the rejectees, I'm sure it was not easy.

It's apparent that the main criteria used to determine who gets a mentor org slot is (1) the size of the organization, (2) whether an org participated in years past, and (3) the quality of the ideas list. (Yes, all three criteria were confirmed at one point or another during the afternoon.) By my count, more than half of the 2008 mentoring orgs participated in 2007. When asked how this can possibly inject innovation and new ideas into the OSS community, one Google staffer replied that it's all about the students, and larger orgs can mentor more students than can smaller orgs. As for the ideas list: We were rejected on a technicality in that we didn't specify the *difficulty level* for each idea in our list.

So what did I come away with? A process that rewards organizations that seem to already have the resources necessary to attract new developers, and a process that falls back on technicalities to determine, in part, who makes the short list and who doesn't.

As one Google sysop replied rather testily to someone, "it's *our* money, so we can do what we want." Don't know if I'll waste my time again next year, since we will only be able to surmount just one of the three most heavily-weighted criteria. But at least now, we have a good idea of what the selection process entails.

Re:My observations (4, Informative)

gravij (685575) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780642)

Perhaps you should have read this: Notes on Organizations Selection Criteria [google.com] . It is linked from the question '5. What kind of mentoring organizations should apply?' in the section about Mentoring organisations in the FAQ.

It gives 6 points: have you participated before, your ideas list, the quality of your application, does google use your software, does google know you, and does giving you money help the wider Open Source community.

Re:My observations (1)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780800)

When asked how this can possibly inject innovation and new ideas into the OSS community
I am glad they rejected you, you obviously have no idea what GSoC is and I am happy you're not apart of it.

Oh really? (4, Interesting)

adamkennedy (121032) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780886)

> It's apparent that the main criteria used to determine who gets a mentor org slot is (1) the size of the organization, (2) whether an org participated in years past, and (3) the quality of the ideas list. (Yes, all three criteria were confirmed at one point or another during the afternoon.)

That is not my experience at all.

The Comprehensive C Archive Network org (a port of CPAN to C) was accepted, despite it being essentially only two or three main people (mostly Rusty Russel and I) with a mailing list and an irc channel, and only existing for 3-4 months.

So we apparently got through on the strength of our idea alone.

Re:Oh really? (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 6 years ago | (#22788106)

Yeah, but that sounds like a killer idea. It drives me crazy that there isn't a central searchable repository for C modules like there is for Perl.

Re:My observations (3, Informative)

Manuzhai (712333) | more than 6 years ago | (#22781990)

By my count, more than half of the 2008 mentoring orgs participated in 2007. When asked how this can possibly inject innovation and new ideas into the OSS community, one Google staffer replied that it's all about the students, and larger orgs can mentor more students than can smaller orgs. As for the ideas list: We were rejected on a technicality in that we didn't specify the *difficulty level* for each idea in our list.

That's just silly. My project (Mercurial) is tiny (in terms of number of developers), we hadn't participated before, and we sure didn't have difficulty levels for each idea in our list. In fact, someone (me) just spent a few hours or so setting up a page with some ideas of things we haven't gotten to yet, trolling around for developers to become mentors and then I filed the application (and okay, I did spend some time thinking about my answers to their questions). All in all, it was maybe 8 to 10 hours work (and we never participated before, otherwise it would have been a little easier).

I was also in the channel at the time of the feedback session, and it sounded to me like they were doing the best they can to make it a fair process. Having about half of the organizations be projects that participated before sounds like it makes perfect sense to me: for one thing, some projects just play a big role and have large impact, so it's good if they get a bunch of students to help out. For the other, having a successful track record seems like it should be a differentiator in the selection process.

I particularly liked the part where people who were involved with the project they were deciding on were sent out of the room for the decision, and the part where projects who tried to get in by sending some extra email to the OSS group at Google or tried capitalizing on their personal connections where declined for participation, just to try and keep it fair. Also, the fact that they provided *personal feedback* to any person from a rejected project who asked! (This was done in order of timezone, to help people get some sleep... If that's not considerate, I don't know what is.)

Google supports FOSS Gaming! (5, Informative)

mithro (1079591) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780540)

Google has been very good to the Open Source gaming community again this year, there are a total of 7 game projects and 5 game related projects.

The following game projects have been accepted,

  • Battle for Wesnoth [wesnoth.org] (ideas [wesnoth.org] ), a very cool turn based strategy game in the theme of Heroes of Might and Magic.
  • BZFlag [bzflag.org] (ideas [bzflag.org] ), the classic tank first person shooter game. One of the oldest open source games around!
  • Linden Lab [lindenlab.com] (ideas [secondlife.com] ), the makers of Second Life the largest "almost game like" online universe.
  • ScummVM [scummvm.org] (ideas [scummvm.org] ), an engine which lets you play all the classic Lucas Arts games and many more!
  • Thousand Parsec [thousandparsec.net] (ideas [thousandparsec.net] ), a framework for building 4x empire building games. Been around since 2001 and growing quickly.
  • Tux4Kids [debian.org] (ideas [tuxpaint.org] ), a group of multi-platform open source educational games for children.
  • WorldForge [worldforge.org] (ideas [worldforge.org] ), one of the original open source MMORPG which has even been mentioned on Slashdot multiple times (original called Altima).

The Summer of Code had a huge impact my own project, Thousand Parsec [thousandparsec.net] and I hope that it will again have a significant positive impact. GSoC 2007 [google.com] helped us develop a number of core utilities that the main developers just would not have time to do. These projects should substantially increase the productivity of new contributors and lower the barrier to entry into development. The huge amount of web traffic brought to our website from just being a mentor organisation can clearly be seen in our web statistics.

This year we are planning to concentrate on improving the player experience. The two ways for achieving this is to create more full and interesting games (rulesets) and making the game clients more attractive and easier to access (such as a web-based client and improving the desktop client).

Out of the three students that where selected last year, two passed their final [thousandparsec.net] evaluations. The code that the students produced was of both a high quality and quantity.

One of the students projects, the RFTS clone ruleset [thousandparsec.net] , is now one of the most complete and popular of our games (rulesets). The student has continued to help with its development and is now currently considering being a mentor this year.

The other successful student made over 220 commits and produced 28,824 lines of code [ohloh.net] , more than some of our other long term project members! He has developed a ruleset editor [thousandparsec.net] which will make ruleset development significantly easier in the future.

As well, the Open Source Office funded one student [thousandparsec.net] in a Summer of Code style outside the program. The student successfully completed the project and we hope the code will soon be rolled out.

Because of the success of our GSoC, our project has actively started to engage with educational institutions ourselves. We now have a student who is doing an high school internship and two students from the University of South Australia working as part of their Final Year project. We are actively talking to other groups about working with them too.

Re:Google supports FOSS Gaming! (1)

NickCatal (865805) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780982)

Linden is a for-profit company though... how did they get a spot on here?

Re:Google supports FOSS Gaming! (3, Insightful)

xenocide2 (231786) | more than 6 years ago | (#22782880)

The same way that MySQL, Redhat, Ohloh, and Google itself were on the list: they publish open source software, even as a for-profit enterprise.

Re:Google supports FOSS Gaming! (3, Informative)

kornkid606 (1076023) | more than 6 years ago | (#22781098)

You forgot OLPC, mithro. They have a good ideas list for doing games for the OLPC such as Mastermind, flash cards, typing tutor, and a small 3D game. I think both TP and OLPC sound like great GSoC projects so Hooray for FOSS Gaming!

-BZA

Re:Google supports FOSS Gaming! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22782432)

The other successful student made over 220 commits and produced 28,824 lines of code [ohloh.net], more than some of our other long term project members!

Not to undermine what he did or the quality of his work, but those metrics mean next to nothing. I thought we stopped caring about LOC and commit counts a while ago since all it shows is that you know how to type a lot.

Re:Google supports FOSS Gaming! (1)

Samurai Crow (937687) | more than 6 years ago | (#22857370)

Don't forget Hypertriton, Inc. Their Agar project has a scene graph and portable SDL-based GUI as well as a tile map engine. You can't say that that isn't game related because, even though it is useful for other things, the tile map engine is definitely game related.

Great program (5, Interesting)

fv (95460) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780558)

The Nmap Security Scanner [nmap.org] project has now participated in Summer of Code all three years—and mentored 25 students. So I'm pleased that Google has accepted us for a fourth year. This really is a great program, so I hope many Slashdotters apply (or at least spread the word to your student friends who may be too busy with school to read Slashdot). There aren't many opportunities available to get paid to work on free software of your choice. Your work makes a big difference for projects and their users as well. You can read about the successful Nmap SoC students in 2007 [seclists.org] , 2006 [seclists.org] , and 2005 [slashdot.org] . No Nmap user can read those lists without recognizing features and improvements they use.

Of course part of the purpose of this post is to shamelessly plug the Nmap SoC ideas page [nmap.org] for people trying to choose a project. We'd love to have you. But honestly, I recommend applying for multiple projects if you really want to get in. Don't just spam a bunch of crappy boilerplate applications, but submit as many carefully-considered ones as you have time to write. Also, I've written up some tips [nmap.org] for preparing a great SoC application.

-Fyodor [insecure.org]

Re:Great program (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22780964)

I so wish there were more security oriented projects involved in the SoC, like OpenBSD, I just don't understand why those guys aren't willing to commit the effort to supporting students developing for their project. It'd be so much better for the project as a whole, more exposure, more development and a little money for the project with each success.

Pity, I guess it's just like with how OpenBSD would not go SMP, and then suddenly did, or how it wouldn't make an official organization for companies to donate to, instead making cheques out to "Theo," or, "CASH," then suddenly, the OpenBSD Foundation, maybe 2010's SoC will suddenly see OpenBSD on the radar.

Good luck with the project, Fyodor.

Hmmm (1)

kitsunewarlock (971818) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780562)

No DnD 4th edition. Considering the game's release is in a couple months, I suppose that's a good thing. But I couldn't help but assume Wizards is going to wind up putting something together in the last few seconds like they did with the 3.0 character generator.

Javascript/AJAX/DHTML projects @ Dojo (3, Interesting)

automatix (664568) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780574)

Dojo [dojotoolkit.org] is an Open Source DHTML toolkit written in JavaScript. It allows you to easily build dynamic capabilities into web pages and any other environment that supports JavaScript sanely. You can use the components that Dojo provides to make your web sites more useable, responsive, and functional.

So, thats what we do - and we're involved with the Summer of Code for the third time in 2008. And this summer we have lots of exciting stuff planned: charting, accessibility, visualizations, automated testing, 3d graphics, ... or suggest your own.

- Rob :)

Scribus Team's Ideas (5, Informative)

oleksa (195389) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780578)

Prospective gsoc student participants interested in improving Free Software Desktop Publishing are invited to look at Scribus Team's ideas list at http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/GsoC_2008_Ideas [scribus.net] . We are starting our second GSoC year and are looking for good student coders to improve the *nix/MacOX/Win32 Desktop Layout Software. Come in to #scribus on Freenode if you'd like to talk to us or join our mailing list at http://nashi.altmuehlnet.de/mailman/listinfo/scribus [altmuehlnet.de] . We are open and quite friendly.

Alex
Scribus Team's GSoC Administrator

Do no Evil Google! (2, Funny)

agent (7471) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780616)

You should be encouraging programmer to do physical exercise, not code more!

Where is LNUX? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22780670)

I thought I saw LNUX somewhere but I cannot find it on the list. Are you guys there?

BRL-CAD solid modeling and computer graphics (4, Informative)

morrison (40043) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780706)

BRL-CAD [brlcad.org] is delighted to be participating in the Google Summer of Code this year for the first time. Be sure to check out our ideas list [brlcad.org] and either stop by the #brlcad IRC channel on Freenode or subscribe to our developer's mailing list [sourceforge.net] to get involved early.

As many know, computer-aided design (CAD) is one of the areas most lacking attention in open source. BRL-CAD has a solid foundation and considerable 25-year development history with more than 450 person-years development effort invested yet we are still wholesomely lacking in the usability and user-interface department. Maybe some of you can help us fix that. We're interested in many other ideas [brlcad.org] as well. Hope to see you apply!

Ubuntu (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22780734)

Ubuntu is noticeably absent from the list. Why? Because nobody ever even bothered to apply. I guess the community was too busy censuring enthusiastic but uninformed volunteers and writing brainstorm from scratch to bother picking up 5k for the organization, money for developers or new features.

x264 is accepting SoC applications! (4, Informative)

Silverlancer (786390) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780790)

Through the Videolan project, x264 is accepting SoC applications this year. We don't have many mentors though... so the competition will be tough!

Drop by #x264dev on Freenode and get involved in the qualification tasks before its too late... more information can be found here [videolan.org] .

Re:x264 is accepting SoC applications! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22793226)

It would be great if someone could implement 4:4:4 support for x264.

Experience necessary? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22780860)

I see that many people have posted information about their projects etc., and for those who have done so, how much experience would I need to apply? I am interested in applying for a project but unfortunately I have not really worked with open source code before and will only have taken about a year of programming (Java/C++) at the university. What do people think is typical knowledge necessary for working on a Summer of Code project? (Sorry if this looks like spam, but I feel this is a serious question for the other half of interested people.)

Re:Experience necessary? (3, Informative)

DD32 (971130) | more than 6 years ago | (#22781020)

At a minimum, I'd suggest a good understanding of the language, And preferably, also knowing how the organisations code works.

Just because you know PHP, It doesnt mean you're going to know the ins and outs of how NextGen Gallery works, You need to know PHP & you need to know how Gallery code is structured(and the functions, and how to interface them, etc).

Thats not to say that you wouldnt pick up the way Gallerys code works easily(Just a note here, I've never looked at Galleries code, it cant be that complicated, i'm just using it as a example), but knowing how the code works beforehand is a great bonus.

I know basic C++, Java, VB/C.Net, so much that i can do simple stuff in them, and might even manage to write a decent small program, But i've got nowhere near enough experience with the languages to work with a organisation who has such code.

Take WordPress as another example, Knowing the way it works, how posts are published, how to use actions and filters, is a great bonus. If you only know basic PHP, and dont understand actions and filters and whatnot, it could be harder to complete the project than what its worth.


However, Keep in mind, that not all summer of code projects require programming, Documentation, Usability studies, Social bug tracking(whatever that is), could be equally as good projects, they dont require programming skills, just other types of skills.

Re:Experience necessary? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22781090)

However, Keep in mind, that not all summer of code projects require programming, Documentation, Usability studies, Social bug tracking(whatever that is), could be equally as good projects, they dont require programming skills, just other types of skills.


Do you have a reference for this? As far as I know, SoC is strictly for programming projects (from the FAQ: "..offers student developers stipends to write code..."). I certainly noticed no non-coding projects last year during my participation... Maybe you're thinking of the Google Highly Open Participation Contest?

Re:Experience necessary? (1)

DD32 (971130) | more than 6 years ago | (#22790900)

> I certainly noticed no non-coding projects last year during my participation... Maybe you're thinking of the Google Highly Open Participation Contest? AFAIK, There were a few with WordPress (I was a student with WP last year), However, This year they're mainly focusing on the C in SoC, so no non-code projects there this year. However, I may be mis-remembering things :)

Wine and Zumastor looking for students! (1)

dkegel (904729) | more than 6 years ago | (#22780862)

I wear two hats, so let me shamelessly plug both projects I'm on: Wine is in its fourth glorious year of the Summer of Code already ( http://wiki.winehq.org/SummerOfCode/PreviousProjects [winehq.org] ) and each year has been fantastic. See our ideas page is at http://wiki.winehq.org/SummerOfCode [winehq.org] Wine is going to hit 1.0 this summer, it's an exciting time to be involved. Zumastor (a project to add better snapshots and remote replication to Linux) is overjoyed to be participating in Summer of Code for the first time this year. See our ideas page at http://zumastor.org/soc.html [zumastor.org] or our home page at http://zumastor.org/ [zumastor.org] I look forward to working with y'all.

Bunch of Hypocrites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22781010)

Hypocrites: not a single Google application is open source: Google Picasa, Google Earth, Google Desktop, etc... are all *CLOSED SOURCE* -- Friends of open source... hmmm, I don't think so. HYPOCRITES

Sahana (4, Interesting)

rediguana (104664) | more than 6 years ago | (#22781070)

I'm stoked that Sahana - a project to develop a FOSS web-based system for disaster management has been selected again for GSOC. Thanks Goggle!

If you're interested in working on a system that will help ease suffering and save lives during and after a disaster, then consider contributing to the Sahana project. It was started after the Boxing Day Tsunami struck Sri Lanka and it now into our fourth year, and I think third GSOC year.

Some areas we're focusing hard on this year are incorporating social networking for disaster response, and implementing a more comprehensive GIS. We would welcome other suggestions.

Sahana@GSOC [google.com] , Sahana GSOC ideas [sahana.lk] . If you want to discuss it more, join up to the Sahana maindev [sourceforge.net] list on sf.net.

If you want to contribute to an humanitarian project for a change, Sahana may be the project for you. Of course, we've got plenty of technical opportunities as well ;)

Re:Sahana (1)

funkboy (71672) | more than 6 years ago | (#22793996)

I'm stoked that Sahana - a project to develop a FOSS web-based system for disaster management has been selected again for GSOC. Thanks Goggle!

Zhe Goggles, zhey do noting!

Google open source apps (-1, Troll)

dookiesan (600840) | more than 6 years ago | (#22781290)

The spirit of the GPL is to give back when you make use of the code, right? Since google might use GPL'd code internally they aren't required to disclose their source code modifications to anyone outside, but do they anyway?

I'd venture a guess that there is some very advanced networking code in use at Google, and it was perhaps even built open sourced code! Will the improvements be distributed to the original authors who were nice enough to lay the foundation and give it away? The law may not require the release, but the 'spirit' of the GPL demands it.

Re:Google open source apps (2, Informative)

SwellJoe (100612) | more than 6 years ago | (#22781610)

"I'd venture a guess that there is some very advanced networking code in use at Google"

"networking code"? They use the stock Linux network stack just like the rest of us (actually a pretty old version of it on most of their machines), and I'm kind of baffled that you'd think that networking code is where Google would be doing interesting work. Networking is a solved problem. It's what you do with the network that interesting, and where Google is spending their money and time.

But, since you haven't bothered to actually, you know...look at their Open Source projects website, I'll mention that Google does have a reasonable stable of open source projects that they've released...a million lines or so of it, apparently. http://code.google.com/hosting/projects.html [google.com]

They are heavy users of MySQL, and I know that they've paid for quite a bit of MySQL development work. And they employ too many OSS project developers to count.

Take your GPL defensiveness somewhere where it's useful. Google is a pretty good member of the OSS community...you wouldn't want us to start demanding that you start working on Open Source projects right away just because you use gThumb to organize your porn, would you?

Re:Google open source apps (1)

dookiesan (600840) | more than 6 years ago | (#22785298)

Question and answer. My 'porn'...? I suppose you just rolled off of Heidi Klum in order to make that post. Why do the research when you can get a more thorough answer through a discussion board in fifteen minutes and get berated at the same time? Seriously!

The point was that running some C code on your computer and displaying the result through javascript doesn't seem different than installing an active-X control to run the same C code (if it's something the client can easily handle). The former case doesn't seem to require open sourcing the modifications, and it is a pretty big loophole. So Google never takes advantage of this. Sounds a little naive to me, but other companies surely are.

interesting.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22781448)

VA Linux: Toilet slave. If you like scat, watersports, felching, perl, and scat, you'll love us! Room and board provided.

ageism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22781828)

My father, of 78 years, has in the previous three years, embraced Linux and Python. He is retired and has much time on his hands. And for someone who has been just a user for many a year, I find that the code emitted by this three-year old programmer to be both elegant and practical.

He runs the network for his church, and volunteers as a DBA for several charities

And I bet that you twenty-something Summer of Code managers would not give an old fart the reading from your Rolex.

Re:ageism (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 6 years ago | (#22782752)

It's more than that, it is also elitist, they are only paying university students.

Of course, since a big goal of the programs is to engage university students, complaining about the fact that the program engages university students is pretty much insane. Next, you should take on those bastards at your local grade schools, I bet they wouldn't welcome your dad into their classes as a student.

RTEMS Accepted (1)

joelsherrill (132624) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786246)

I was absolutely thrilled that RTEMS [rtems.org] was accepted this year for the first time. As others have said, we also were not a mentoring organization in the past, so they must have evaluated the project and ideas page. We have already have some students pipe up on our mailing list and I really look forward to having some students accepted and working with them. I asked one question on the SOC google group and have lurked there. The google folks seemed to bend over backwards answering questions. Thanks.

gEDA and GSoC (1)

ah13 (957364) | more than 6 years ago | (#22791450)

The gEDA project was accepted again this year (second year we are participating). We are quite thrilled and grateful to Google for the opportunity! We are looking for students who are interested in working on free software and electronic circuit design software.

Here is gEDA's GSoC 2008 [seul.org] page as well as the suggested projects [seul.org] page. You can also look at gEDA's homepage [seul.org] for more info on the project in general.

-Ales (gEDA/gaf developer)
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