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Vista Service Pack 1 Is Out

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the prepare-to-be-serviced dept.

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superglaze writes "What's to say? After much prevaricating and slipping out then pulling back, the first service pack for Windows Vista has actually been released. It's available for download now via Microsoft's sites, with an auto-update rollout scheduled for next month, and it should hit Amazon's virtual shelves on Wednesday."

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ZZZZZZZZZ.... (1, Troll)

zgregoryg (1061612) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786252)

Huh? Yawn...

Re:ZZZZZZZZZ.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786644)

batman touched my junk liberally. he strapped me in to his batmobile and he couldnt keep his offensive hands off of me. he was performing many red flag touches. i couldnt believe what the fuck was going on. i told batman the city would not approve of a millionaire touching an underage kid for free.

can you believe it? batman did all this. he picked me off the street, strapped my arms and legs down in the batmobile's passenger seat, and just wouldn't stop fondling my cock'n'balls.

they definately were red flag touches. the goddamn referee he had in the back seat kept on raising up this red flag every time he touched my junk but did batman care? NO WAY! he just kept on doing it. I couldn't believe what the fuck was going on, indeed. I pleaded with batman but to no avail. I told him the city would not approve of such a wealthy man touching an underage kid like me (at the time I was 13) without at least compensating me for the trauma and the use of my body as his own personal plaything.

this got to him, worrying about his image. he continued to fondle me, all the while ignoring the referee's red flags. then he drove the batmobile to my house and ejected the seat i was in! it was amazing. but surprisingly, after I woke up the next morning, my bank account had $150k in it!!! Can you believe it???????

Re:ZZZZZZZZZ.... (0, Troll)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786808)

I didn't even know it had teh Gay! [urbandictionary.com]

Auto upbreak. (1)

Mactrope (1256892) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786258)

Have there been any good reviews of SP1?

Re:Auto upbreak. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786336)

I work in the IT field, use Vista 100% on my laptop and have several clients.

I snagged SP1, the latest pre release build and it has been fine.

Things seem 'faster', copying files, something that use to take weeks now takes as long as it should.

I still get the random spoolsv crashing for no reason but that was there before SP1.

None of my applications break although I don't use anything custom or home grown or vertical.

The install took a while - three stages with I believe a few stages each. I made a backup of my data prior just in case it went blue. No problems with the install/patch.

captch: robbed

Re:Auto upbreak. (-1, Flamebait)

Mactrope (1256892) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786452)

Stellar performance, and totally against what everyone else says. Good thing you are posting AC, you would not want your clients to know what you really think.

Re:Auto upbreak. (4, Informative)

xstonedogx (814876) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786650)

Where does the GP say "stellar performance" and who is "everyone else"?

SP1 installed very easily for me. Everything the GP says agrees with my own experience, except for the spoolsv crashing. The only issue I had at all was having to change the screen resolution back. As an added bonus, Bioshock now runs without crashing every 5-10 minutes.

Re:Auto upbreak. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22787076)

"Stellar performance, and totally against what everyone else says."

You mean the 9 out of 10 people that don't actually use Vista but happily parrot every sensationalist headline they run across?

Re:Auto upbreak. (4, Funny)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786708)

"Things seem 'faster', copying files, something that use to take weeks now takes as long as it should."

Does Internet Explorer feel 'snappier'?

Re:Auto upbreak. (4, Insightful)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786742)

Things seem 'faster', copying files,

To hell with 'seem' - post benchmarks.

Re:Auto upbreak. (-1, Redundant)

ninjamonkey26 (1258466) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787006)

Agreed!!!

Re:Auto upbreak. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22787144)

Agreed!!!
Wow... You registered just to post that?

Re:Auto upbreak. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786744)

SP1 RTM has been available for quite some time from the technet site. We've been using it for quite awhile now. BTW, the spoolsv issue is with an HP Print driver, generally from a print server. You need to get an updated hpbmini.dll - minor rev 16 and greater will work. Older versions don't understand an OS that starts with version "6" and just crash the spooler. You can delete the driver using printmanagement.msc.

Re:Auto upbreak. (5, Funny)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786948)

something that use to take weeks now takes as long as it should.

I still get the random spoolsv crashing for no reason but that was there before SP1.
Man, you make Vista sound really great. I'm gonna run out and buy a copy!

what could possibly go wrong :) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786260)

Well, enuff said.

"Clippy" is back . . . (5, Funny)

StefanJ (88986) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786280)

. . . and now he's mad.

Um. Seriously. I'm glad there's a service pack out. But I'm going to wait a few weeks and see if it causes USB drives to melt, or sends your life history to the Ministry of Total Information Awareness.

Re:"Clippy" is back . . . (5, Funny)

GeckoAddict (1154537) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786500)

Ok that's funny.... somehow I just pictured the clippy busting down the door holding a rocket launcher as the move voice over guy says something about 'Back for revenge'

Possible Tags (-1, Troll)

paintballer1087 (910920) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786284)

whatcouldpossiblygowrong suddenoutbreakofcommonsense haha mafiaa thinkofthechildren goodluckwiththat oldnews cowboynealforpresident

Re:Possible Tags (-1, Redundant)

paintballer1087 (910920) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786330)

I know, I'm replying to myself.... Fixed:

whatcouldpossiblygowrong

suddenoutbreakofcommonsense

haha

mafiaa

thinkofthechildren

goodluckwiththat

oldnews

cowboynealforpresident

Re:Possible Tags (4, Funny)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786332)

Don't forget the slew of jokes that Vista SP1 will just reinstall XP...

Re:Possible Tags (1)

Mactrope (1256892) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786486)

Isn't it Server 2008 that upgrades to XP with a facelift?

Re:Possible Tags (5, Funny)

Bryansix (761547) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786998)

Don't forget the slew of jokes that Vista SP1 will just reinstall XP...
Too bad it doesn't...

Re:Possible Tags (1)

CRCulver (715279) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786362)

I usually try to tag everything vaporware.

wut (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786288)

NOW CAN THEY FIX THE FUCKING MAINTANENCE PROBLEMS WITH WOW OR ARE THESE MICROSOFT FAGGOTS

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hmm... (5, Funny)

drik00 (526104) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786292)

I have a very bad feeling about this.

OR

I feel a great disturbance in the Force. As if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened. ...its a toss up.

Re:hmm... (1)

lju (944654) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786350)

I prefer "that's no moon..." in this situation.

Re:hmm... (1)

mh1997 (1065630) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786424)

I have a very bad feeling about this.
Good, software updates from any company have a tendency to cause new problems.

Re:hmm... (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787078)

"This is bad. Very bad!"

"Let Microsoft inflict a bug-ridden patch on us? I don't *think* so!"

So how long do I wait? (3, Insightful)

More_Cowbell (957742) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786294)

Seriously, I have it downloaded already but I don't want to install until a prudent amount of time has passed. I am one of those that would prefer to let the brave early adopters report any serious flaws. Given that this is one of the more anticipated updates, will the time I need to wait be reduced as many rush to install?

A day? A week? Two?

Keeping in mind my only reason to install is annoyance with current Vista performance; I have no critical reason to update.

Re:So how long do I wait? (4, Informative)

snl2587 (1177409) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786328)

I would wait at least a month to make sure any major holes weren't opened up or major compatibility issues introduced. That should probably be enough.

Re:So how long do I wait? (5, Funny)

gQuigs (913879) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786448)

Wait until DNF is released.

Re:So how long do I wait? (1)

More_Cowbell (957742) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786584)

Thanks, but won't we all be running our holographic computers while riding in our flying cars before Duke Nukem Forever is released?

Re:So how long do I wait? (1)

tsa (15680) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787150)

No way man, that's be sooo 21st century by then!

Re:So how long do I wait? (5, Funny)

eln (21727) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786494)

Wait until it shows up in auto-update in a month would be my advice. That should give plenty of time for the tech rags to post glowing reviews of how it revolutionizes computing, solves world hunger, and cures male pattern baldness. Likewise, it will give Slashdot plenty of time to report that it makes computers crash, steals peoples' wallets, has sex with their dogs, and sets their house on fire.

You know, the usual Microsoft software update cycle.

Re:So how long do I wait? (2, Interesting)

dg5 (442714) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786680)

Torch it and throw it into rubbish along with Vista. Any OS that needs 2GB of RAM to run (slowly) is not worth a penny.

Re:So how long do I wait? (4, Informative)

cyclocommuter (762131) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786756)

If your reason for installing is only for performance, Vista SP1 will probably disappoint you. On the other hand I have installed it on 2 laptops and one desktop and the only problem I had was with an HP Printer driver that stopped working. All I had to do was to go to Control Panel, remove the printer, then add the printer back again and that fixed the problem.

Honestly, I did not find any major improvement performance-wise nor stability-wise as my machines were already running relatively smoothly pre-SP1. There appears to be minor improvements in boot times, shutdown times (though I do this maybe once a week per PC/laptop on average); plus getting in and out of sleep, especially for the laptops, appears to go smoother.

Re:So how long do I wait? (1)

More_Cowbell (957742) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786932)

...getting in and out of sleep, especially for the laptops, appears to go smoother.
I have a brand new laptop and waking it from sleep is one of my biggest complaints. Certain things sometimes need manual intervention to wake up. Like my wireless network. This tends to get annoying.

Re:So how long do I wait? (2, Interesting)

DaveWick79 (939388) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786786)

I know /.'ers like to discount MS's beta process as a bunch of rubbish. But the beta process is there to eliminate the brave earlier adopter problems at actual launch time. And traditionally it has worked.

Re:So how long do I wait? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22787120)

Yeah, just like with that prerequisite patch for Vista SP1, which - hold on, I need to reboot, Vista just installed an update.

OK, like that prerequisite patch for Vista SP1 that - hold on, Vista found a new update and is installing it.

Anyway, like that prerequisite patch for Vista SP1 that - wait, it needs to reboot again.

Right, like that prerequisite patch for Vista SP1 that - hold on, Vista found a new update and is installing it.

As I was saying, like that prerequisite patch for Vista SP1 that - wait, it needs to reboot yet again.

So anyways, like that prerequisite patch for Vista SP1 that - hold on, Vista found a new update and is installing it. Wait, I think that's the same patch as last time.

Where was I? Oh, right, like that - dammit, it's forcing a reboot again. Hold on.

So remember that prerequisite patch for Vista SP1 that caused - DAMMIT, NO, I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO INSTALL IT AGAIN!! ...

Right, that Vista SP1 prerequisite patch that caused endless rebooting for the lucky ones and killed Vista for the unlucky ones?

Re:So how long do I wait? (4, Informative)

AJWM (19027) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787200)

But the beta process is there to eliminate the brave earlier adopter problems

No, see, that's what an alpha release is for. Beta releases are supposed to be damned near final, what in these days of release grade inflation is now called a "release candidate". This is why "/.'ers like to discount MS's beta process as a bunch of rubbish"; because for those of us that remember, it is.

"And traditionally it has worked as an alpha process"

There, fixed that for you.

all the cool kids are doing it. (1)

flahwho (1243110) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787040)

you say "I have no critical reason to update." With all the inherent security misses with any new OS release from MS, which is better, losing your OS to a glitch or not doing anything and compromising your security? I state the obvious: back up your files and go for the SP updates. Chances are if you're running vista, you (hopefully) did this with your XP box not that long ago anyway. - McD's - 3 billion fat kids can't be wrong.

Ohhhh this should make my job so much easier! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786300)

I just know this will fix all the problem, I just know it.

Poor Vista. (5, Funny)

Missing_dc (1074809) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786304)

"After much prevaricating and slipping out then pulling back, the first service pack for Windows Vista....."

sounds like an awful lover.

Re:Poor Vista. (1)

melikamp (631205) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786398)

Very funny, but probably wasted here on /.

Re:Poor Vista. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786442)

Hey, I resemble that remark!

Re:Poor Vista. (1)

smooth wombat (796938) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786526)

sounds like an awful lover.


Actually, I was going to say it sounded like a description of some bad porn I've seen but you beat me to the punch.

Re:Poor Vista. (4, Insightful)

The Angry Mick (632931) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786544)

sounds like an awful lover.

Awful or no, somebody will most certainly be getting screwed.

Re:Poor Vista. (0, Troll)

Rick Bentley (988595) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786636)

It runs in the family. Shortly after Bill Gate's marriage, his new wife learned what MICRO, SOFT really means.

Re:Poor Vista. (1)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786740)

Oh no you didn't!! SNAP

Man, good one!! We on slashdot all aspire only to be so witty [penny-arcade.com] .

Re:Poor Vista. (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786676)

"After much prevaricating and slipping out then pulling back, the first service pack for Windows Vista....."

sounds like an awful lover.
Just wait nine months, you haven't seen the half of it.

Unfortunately... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786312)

No vista users will actually be able to download it due to file copy delays... so we'll wait for it to come out on disk.

Re:Unfortunately... (1)

slaker (53818) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786822)

I find your comment particularly amusing given that I've been watching a brand new 8 CPU Server 2008 machine copy 33GB (thirty three gigabytes) of data from a gigabit LAN connection for the last two days... the file transfer dialog says I only have 225 minutes to go!

Re:Unfortunately... (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787138)

Your network sucks then, none of my 9 Windows 2008 servers (ranging from a VMware Server 1.0.4 VM with 512MB ram to a dual quad-core Xeon 2.0Ghz with 4GB ram) take any longer than any of my Windows 2003 R2 servers (same hardware range) to copy 40GB.

In your case, I would stop looking at Windows and start looking elsewhere - the network hardware, drivers et al?

Re:Unfortunately... (4, Interesting)

BrookHarty (9119) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787204)

I read all those Win2008 makes a better desktop than Vista, and on a x64 system, so I gave it a try.

Compared to Vista x64 with SP1, Win 2008 ran all my software, was full x64, and the drivers worked for vista. Sound, Video. Codecs worked. Boots quicker, file system ran smoother, files copied at normal speeds.

Even vista after sp1 is still a dog... And god, I hate the new file explorer, I've had to revert back to Directory Opus..

adoption rate (5, Insightful)

AdamReyher (862525) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786314)

I'm more interested to see how this affects the adoption rate ... or doesn't. It's been said businesses have been waiting for SP1 to make the move. The question is: was that all just talk or is it going to actually happen?

Re:adoption rate (1)

TheCRAIGGERS (909877) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786556)

That probably depends on the ratio of how much shit they did right over how much they did wrong. From what I've heard so far about application compatibility being worse, I wouldn't expect there to be a huge rush to adopt.

Re:adoption rate (1)

BillGod (639198) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786678)

I was wondering the same thing. I have heard several of my IT co-workers say.. "I'm not leaving xp until sp 1 comes out" Wonder if they will actually leave xp behind now?

Re:adoption rate (1)

MojoStan (776183) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786748)

Another thing that could effect the adoption rate (but perhaps not for business buyers) is the price cuts [betanews.com] for some retail versions of Vista with SP1. In the U.S., the Home Premium Upgrade version with SP1 will be $95 on Amazon.com and the Ultimate Upgrade version will be $195. Price cuts haven't been announced for any OEM versions (which I assume many Slashdot users buy).

Re:adoption rate (1)

domatic (1128127) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786886)

It's SP2 or three years after release in our organization. There must also be a fully baked Server 2008 to go along with it.

Let's see here (1)

Bryansix (761547) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787052)

If the airspeed of an unladen african swallow is x and the service pack Vista is on is y and z equals the chance that pigs will fly then the chance that our company will ever use Vista can be represented as xyz. In other words we will use Vista... Never!

Re:adoption rate (4, Interesting)

handsomepete (561396) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787206)

For the company I work at the issue is hardware - while some of our PCs would probably run Vista somewhat ok a lot of them won't and we can't really afford to either a.) increase support costs by having a constant stream of "slow PC" calls or b.) do a complete desktop refresh in less than 2 years. If there was some sort of tangible advantage we'd probably try to find the budget, but no one has pointed one out to us yet. So we'll either ride XP to the end of its days (or to Windows 7, whichever comes first).

Like a lot of companies we've talked about switching over to an alternative OS, but having the usual triad of Microsoft entrenchment (Exchange + Office + AD) makes that an unnerving undertaking for our size.

Service Pack 1... Not impressed so far. (5, Interesting)

og_sh0x (520297) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786324)

I use Vista at work because I'm going to need to know it eventually. Microsoft probably won't offer XP forever. Among many other problems that I eventually fixed before the service pack, I had a problem with my sound not working so I installed Service Pack 1. It fixed the sound problem, then broke my network adapter. After removing the service pack, the network came back but the sound broke again. And it's over an hour to install and another hour to uninstall.

Re:Service Pack 1... Not impressed so far. (5, Informative)

joshuaes (1035088) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786438)

"Microsoft probably won't offer XP forever."

Windows XP Professional 'Direct OEM and Retail License Availability' ends June 30, 2008. And 'System Builder License Availability' ends January 31, 2009.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx [microsoft.com]

So, Microsoft isn't going to offer Windows XP in a few months. As far as an OEM license goes.

Re:Service Pack 1... Not impressed so far. (5, Funny)

Bragador (1036480) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787024)

The Pirate Bay will continue to offer Windows XP for a long time to come.


I wouldn't panic if I were you...

Re:Service Pack 1... Not impressed so far. (1)

davidsyes (765062) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786820)

Sounds like a Stevie's Wonder Machine... I wonder if your box will have to learn sign languages... and will it need shades... and THEN will it be Jammin'

Another Microsoft Success (4, Informative)

stevedcc (1000313) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786346)

I tried the (two) public betas on my Vista Ultimate 64 partition. They all failed to install at 19%. I reported it on the forums, tried to send my logs to an email address they said they'd set up, and even identified which file was supposedly "corrupt" (the one it was installing actually).

For my trouble, I've been ignored, and I'm now going to have to reinstall the ENTIRE OS because some small part of it is supposedly corrupt (systems works fine) and they won't let me just fix that. Lovely. My Ubuntu install is so much better, I wish I didn't need the vista one.

Re:Another Microsoft Success (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786566)

Wow, a beta that doesn't work for everyone all the time. What a travesty.

Re:Another Microsoft Success (1)

stevedcc (1000313) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786614)

Actually, it's THE SAME PROBLEM THEY STILL HAVEN'T FIXED, that's still happening in the released version. What's the point in ignoring beta testers? Why reinstall an entire OS because there's one pernickety file that doesn't matter for normal operation? Why not just replace the one file?

Re:Another Microsoft Success (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786726)

let me guess: the file was PEBKAC.INI, amirite?

this hasn't been a problem for anyone else i've come across. millions of people are handling the update just peachy keen fine. you have one munched file and need to reinstall after playing with beta software and you think any of us give a crap? you are squeaking failure into the wind, sonny.

maybe you should just steer clear of things you just don't understand, stevie.

I've been using it for a few weeks (5, Informative)

Coopjust (872796) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786358)

I grabbed the X64 update from Microsoft's OEM website a few weeks ago.

First off, SP1 is a massive improvement. It installs a lot of bugfixes (including ones not released publicly before)... and it improves other stuff quite a bit. Disk performance is much better- you could argue that copy and paste tasks should not be slowed down by the speed of the OS, but it's improvement.

Overall, my Vista install rarely runs into errors- maybe one or two non-system apps are hanging a week. UAC got less annoying (it wasn't that bad to begin with).

It took an hour to install on my PC, and I didn't run into any issues. I think it helps Vista a lot. Honestly, I prefer Vista on newer machines; it's RAM heavy requiring 2GB+ to run well but RAM is very cheap nowadays and the x64 version works quite well; I had no driver issues personally.

(I still recommend backing up though. I always back up before a major update, whether it's XP, Vista, OS X or Ubuntu).

Re:I've been using it for a few weeks (0, Redundant)

Itninja (937614) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786800)

UAC got less annoying (it wasn't that bad to begin with)
I am guessing you rarely make changes to your system? I couldn't even install a AV update (daily) without having to approve it several times.

it's RAM heavy requiring 2GB+ to run well
If by 'run well' you mean significantly slower than XP with the same resources. My new Vista machine has 2GB and takes as least twice as long to do even simple things (open Photoshop, enumerate installed software, etc.). I would recommend at least 4GB if you want to same performance you got with XP at 1GB.

It sounds like you are still in the honeymoon stage with Vista. The 'isn't Aero pretty?' stage. I was there once. That was a year ago. Now I am a bitter Linux user.

Re:I've been using it for a few weeks (1)

Coopjust (872796) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787046)

Hmm, my AV doesn't require UAC for automatic updating. What A/V do you use?
I'm running Photoshop CS3 on a PC with 2GB of RAM. It took as long on XP (I had a retail license, and this newer computer replaced an old one with a dead mobo, so I had it left over). I disagree. At 4GB I got the performance of XP with 2GB. XP used quite a bit more resources than 2000/NT too...

I've been a happy Vista user since the beta. I bought Vista post beta and I've been happy since.

Re:I've been using it for a few weeks (5, Insightful)

ddrichardson (869910) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786854)

requiring 2GB+ to run well

No matter how many times I see this it blows me away. This isn't an anti Microsoft bash - this is a serious efficiency issue - we have gone from a suggested 8Mb for WFWG 3.11 (1992/93 UK) to 2Gb in a generation. That's a massive jump considering that most users are still muddling about with a web browser and a word processor. I know that processor speeds etc have also increased exponentially but I can't help this nagging feeling that it's down to lazy coding.

Re:I've been using it for a few weeks (2)

The End Of Days (1243248) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787036)

There's more than one generation between 3.11 and Vista. I'm not really defending Microsoft, I think the requirements for Vista are outrageous, but intellectual dishonesty doesn't really serve anyone.

Re:I've been using it for a few weeks (4, Interesting)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787038)

I must agree with you there. I once browsed the web and checked my email (with GUI programs), as well as viewed videos (from a CD encyclopedia) on a 486 75Mhz machine with an 80Mb hard drive an 6Mb of RAM.

My new computer has a processor 48x faster (just by a megahertz comparison - I'm sure it's actually even faster in the real world), has 341x the RAM, and has roughly 13,107x the hard drive space.

What does the average public use their machines for these days? Browsing the web and checking email. Why is it that our hardware is now orders of magnitude faster in theory but still does the same basic stuff? I can understand some things taking the extra power. Video compression, 3d gaming, compiling source code, etc, should all take a lot of horsepower, but the most basic computer tasks shouldn't take the resources they do. Glancing at task manager on this machine here at work Firefox is currently using 157MB of RAM. Like I said, I once browsed the web on a machine with 6MB total memory.

Re:I've been using it for a few weeks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786934)

It installs a lot of bugfixes (including ones not announced publicly before)...
Fixed.

Vista Service Pack 2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786370)

will be next.

Report some news, lamers, not CRAP.

Thank you for your consideration.

PatRIOTically,
Kilgore Trout, ACTIVIST

Too late! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786372)

This is great news and all, but personally I'm waiting for Windows 7 - the rumor is that it'll be released in 2009 (that's next year)... so I'm going to put off pursuing Vista, using the (hopefully sound) assumption that Microsoft will have learned from Vista's troubles.

Why bother with Vista now if I'll need to bother with Win7 in a year???

Re:Too late! (1, Redundant)

jandrese (485) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786416)

Because chances are "Windows 7" is going to be Windows Server 2009, and basically Vista with some server stuff tossed in (and a much higher price tag).

Learn a lesson Microsoft!!! (4, Funny)

get quad (917331) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786396)

Few people play Quake 4 today as it was released roughly 1.5 years before it was ready for retail, then Activision expected the public to become guinea pig beta testers for a half-assed product. Microsoft should take a lesson, as Vista has become the same laughing stock as a video game for the exact same reasons. In other words, software companies need to make this quip their gospel: An Old Bull and a Young Bull were standing at the top of a hill overlooking a large meadow full of cows. The Young Bull says excitedly, "Let's run down there and fuck us a cow!" "No, son", says the Old Bull, "let's WALK down there and fuck them all."

Re:Learn a lesson Microsoft!!! (1)

dryueh (531302) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786984)

"let's WALK down there and fuck them all."

Then the Young Bull fragged the Old with a railgun, just before rocket-jumping over the corpse on his way to L-O-L copulation.

(ftw)

In all seriousness, I'm hopeful for SP1, but I'll definitely wait to install until there's some more feedback. I use XP at work, Vista at home.. I seem to be one of the few that doesn't mind the OS, and even prefers it to XP in several ways.

Slow install (5, Informative)

doodzed (35795) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786402)

Do not start the update procedure unless you do not need your machine for a while. On stage 2 of 3 on a fairly beefy box(5.1 vista experience) and it has been chugging for about 15 min and shows 2% done.

At least my mac is up.

Re:Slow install (4, Interesting)

Kenshin (43036) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786930)

I still don't completely understand why SP1 takes 4 times as long to install as Vista itself.

Re:Slow install (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786978)

Because the SP1 install has to run on Vista.

Oh noes (3, Interesting)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786408)

Run for your lives! Seriously is this just like any other patch Tuesday or should I get in my mom's basement now and hunker down for a few weeks.

J/K. I'm always in my mom's basement.

Some thoughts on SP1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786460)

Even on a vLited install on my crappy laptop (C751, 2GB RAM), this feels more responsive. The dumb thing about this is that M$ won't let it be slipstreamed unless it's done in a bass-ackwards fashion (install plain vista to a secondary partition, run SP1, and then throw that partition back into a WIM file). No .exe with switches, nothing. I know that this is a big change (and it looks like for the better), but I still have this lingering sense that they aren't quite focused on what's imporant.

Also, if you're hoping that SP1 will cure cancer, correct the Earth's orbit, and make Vista look & feel like XP, it won't. It makes it more stable & faster, but that's it. YMMV.

Interestingly, my human check word is "angriest"...

I have successfully installed Service Pack 1. (4, Interesting)

MOMOCROME (207697) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786506)

went smooth as silk, even on the more complicated Vista Ultimate.

why do I mention it? well. this thread will be full of nasty, snarky lies. maybe i can balance things out a bit and thank the windows team for an update well done.

now if they could just turn their attention to the fail that is 'windows ultimate extras', that would be perfect.

Re:I have successfully installed Service Pack 1. (2, Insightful)

ashridah (72567) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786688)

I personally like the disinformation about SP1 being pulled or delayed that was blatantly incorrect (it was stated that it would be mid-march when it was announced at the start of Feb, and shock, it's now mid-march, and it's been released)

But still, not like the facts matter to The Register or Slashdot anymore... if they ever did.

Re:I have successfully installed Service Pack 1. (1)

penguin_dance (536599) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786714)

Okay Bill, you can go back to your charity work now....

With apologies to Slayer... (4, Funny)

rob1980 (941751) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786582)

God Hates Us All.

Re:With apologies to Slayer... (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786702)

God Hates Us All.

Not me! I'm on a Mac!

Re:With apologies to Slayer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22787062)

What are you, a shill for Fred Phelps?

Bugs by Category (4, Insightful)

headkase (533448) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786632)

Vista Service Pack 1 rolls up 551 bug fixes [zdnet.com] which are broken down by category in that link. Many of these fixes were not available before even through more advanced sites such as MSDN or TechNet. So, now that SP1 is out the trend to watch for is if it actually spures adoption or just passes by unnoticed. I for one welcome..., err, did buy Vista because SP1 was imminent for it as my primary purchasing reason. SP1 incrementally improves Vista and through the simple realities of OEM distribution like it or not within a few years Vista will probably be at least 40%+ market share.

Shock Horror (4, Informative)

Toreo asesino (951231) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786634)

I've been running it for a couple of weeks now, and yes, shock horror it does work just fine.

The system feels more responsive, and stuff happens as it should. This is the Vista that should've shipped, but where Vista has suffered Windows Server 2008 has gained; all the initial frustrations have been fixed in SP1 for Vista and Windows Server 2008, so consider Vista RTM a beta kernel for Win2k8. It is after all, the server market Windows isn't 95% prevalent in after all.

doomed (0, Troll)

despeaux (1254096) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786642)

Microsoft is doomed. They're already loosing their most important customers: young people. Apple has me for now.

Re:doomed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22786730)

Loosing them where? ..frankly, I'm not sure that that's proper grammar. Apple can have you.

Any way to slipstream it with new boot loader also (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786792)

Any way to slipstream it with new boot loader also? For windows 64 that can use bios and EFI?
If not does MS have a ISO link to use with you key as any iso for 64bit or 32bit should work with your key I have a unused 32bit and 64bit full install disk and I have to sp1 disk with efi on the 64bit one.

How about alternative versions?? (1)

rodrigoandrade (713371) | more than 6 years ago | (#22786896)

I know we don't do that here, but has anyone tried installing SP1 on a pirated copy of 32-bit Vista Ultimate.

We want XP-Service Pack 3 (2, Insightful)

John Jamieson (890438) | more than 6 years ago | (#22787186)

Most people would care a lot more about XP-SP3.
Lets hope that with this Vista SP out, MS will release XP-SP3.
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