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A Battlestar Galactica Prequel Series on the Way

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the they-evolved-they-have-a-plan dept.

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kumasame writes "The Sci Fi Channel has announced it will create a prequel to Battlestar Galactica, as the series enters its final season. The two-hour pilot for the production, called Caprica, is expected to be shot in Vancouver this spring with shooting for the series to follow. The first episodes are expected to air this fall. In a Q&A session held yesterday, the creators and stars of the show revealed a number of tidbits of information about the new show and last season of BSG."

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Warning: Spoilers (5, Informative)

alnya (513364) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805572)

Just in case you haven't seen the complete last series, there are some major spoilers in the linked article.

Re:Warning: Spoilers (5, Funny)

Ginger Unicorn (952287) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805668)

FUCKING HELL. You go to the trouble of RTFAing before reading the comments, and it's too late to know that there is a MASSIVE SPOILER halfway though the article. I was sure i'd seen the entire 3rd season so it must be a 4th season spoiler.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

PUT A SPOILER WARNING IN THE FUCKING ARTICLE SUMMARY PLEASE! Everyone needs to tag this SPOILER in the meantime.

Re:Warning: Spoilers (1)

electrictroy (912290) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805750)

Agreed. Not adding a spoiler warning is pisspoor netiquette. "What's the matter with ya boy? Were ya raised in a barn? Mind your manners."

Also

CAPRICA is old news. I've known about this prequel for at least two years now, since it was originally announced mid-season 2.

Re:Warning: Spoilers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22805894)

Not adding a spoiler warning is pisspoor netiquette. "What's the matter with ya boy? Were ya raised in a barn?"
Well, it is Zonk.

Re:Warning: Spoilers (1)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806374)

CAPRICA is old news. I've known about this prequel for at least two years now

Good for you, so have the rest of us. But, until yesterday, we all thought it wouldn't happen due to Sci-Fi's hardon for all things craptacular and SG-1.

Act as casual as you want, but this IS a big deal to BSG fans.

Re:Warning: Spoilers (1)

glavenoid (636808) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805896)

It should also be noted that both links lead to the same article (for those who don't pay attention or use a crappy browser).

Re:Warning: Spoilers (3, Informative)

florescent_beige (608235) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806070)

there is a MASSIVE SPOILER halfway though the article. I was sure i'd seen the entire 3rd season so it must be a 4th season spoiler.

Are you sure you have seen right to the very very end of the very very last episode of season 3?

There are no season 4 spoilers in TFA.

Re:Warning: Spoilers (1)

pdbaby (609052) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806120)

You go to the trouble of RTFAing before reading the comments, and it's too late to know that there is a MASSIVE SPOILER


You must be new here...

Re:Warning: Spoilers (3, Insightful)

just_forget_it (947275) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806198)

Oh PLEASE. Everybody was thinking Starbuck could be a cylon anyway. The article doesn't even say one way or the other, just that most of the ship thinks she is, probably because she CAME BACK FROM THE FREAKING DEAD. It's hardly a "massive" spoiler, if it's even one at all.

Re:Warning: Spoilers (1)

Ginger Unicorn (952287) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806840)

What? AArrrrghh another spoiler.... That wasnt the spoiler i read in TFA....

Re:Warning: Spoilers (1)

ajs (35943) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806512)

To be fair, the spoilers only have to do with the previous season, and the revelatory episode in question aired almost exactly a year ago. It's not always reasonable to assume that you'll get spoiler warnings a year later. If you're avoiding information about a series for that long, why are you clicking on a link for news of the upcoming season...?

Re:Warning: Spoilers (0, Troll)

Ginger Unicorn (952287) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806768)

i could have sworn i'd watched all of season 3 and i dont remember colonel tigh being a cylon

Re:Warning: Spoilers (4, Funny)

Ginger Unicorn (952287) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806800)

oh bugger now i've just posted a spoiler! someone mod me down for gods sake!

Re:Warning: Spoilers (4, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805714)

Indeed.HUGE spoilers. Don't RTFA, really.

The problem with BSG has always been that if you miss even one episode, you're screwed trying to re-establish continuity; and now this new news that Optimus Prime is a Cylon is just the last straw.

Re:Warning: Spoilers (1)

Lewie (3743) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805910)

What spoiler? The last new episode (forgetting Razor) was broadcast over a year ago! It can hardly be considered a spoiler if the information has been in the public domain for 12 months. Honestly, keep up.

Re:Warning: Spoilers (1)

Zumbs (1241138) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806110)

I only saw the final episodes of 3rd season a few weeks ago - and I know many who's only seen it halfway through the 2nd season. So it would have been nice having spoiler warnings.

Re:Warning: Spoilers (3, Insightful)

cvas (150274) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806628)

WARNING! I QUOTE THE TITLE AND OPENING BLURB OF THE ARTICLE!! IF YOU DON"T WANT THOSE SPOILED BEFORE YOU GO TO THE SITE, STOP READING!!!!

I guess you missed this part:

The streaming revelation along with other show secrets and anecdotes, was revealed last night at the Morgan Library during a panel discussion with series executive producers David Eick and Ron Moore and nine of the show's stars.

More news on a confirmed BSG prequel, identifying the final cylon and what it's like to find out you're a toaster, all after the jump.


And while not directed solely at the parent, people need to suck it up and take some personal responsibility. The HEADING of the article is Battlestar Galactica Streams Into Season 4 .

If people have not even finished season TWO and still read past the title then they have only themselves to blame, either for lack of willpower, inability to grasp the English language, or general stupidity.

Unless you just got your first computer, chances are you know how this "web" thing works and that going to a site about a show or a movie could possibly contain SPOILERS. Sure it's nice when they give you a warning, but in the Big Bad World, Mommy and Daddy can't always be there to hold your hand or help you make decisions.

I will make one concession, the Slashdot summary could be better (shocking!). The line about the new show and last season of BSG is a bit ambiguous given the context and state of the show. Does "last season" mean the Final Season (yes, in this case) or does it mean the Previous Season? But even being confused by that, the article itself contained enough warning once you got there. Unless you need huge, 72pt., red spoiler warnings because you're an idiot.

Re:Warning: Spoilers (1)

Splab (574204) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806592)

I didn't know about BSG until I happened to see an episode at a friends, decided to get it from the beginning, its not more than two months ago I watched it from start to end, so yes even a full year after some people might not have seen it, let alone heard about it even though they might have an interest in the series.

Re:Warning: Spoilers (1)

RAM_Doubler (1240072) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806762)

Or if you want nothing *but* spoilers, here's the entire series in 8min 15sec...http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/index.php [scifi.com]

...a bun in the toaster... Awesome.

I exhort my Brethren!! (0, Troll)

grandayatrollah (1233774) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805582)

We must rise up [nimp.org] brethren and over throw these Slashdot zionist pigs. Praise be to timecop and mercy upon this holiest of jihads. Take this article about Battlestar Galactica and purge the Slashdot trash. Let's make a mockery of their vilest institution!!!

Best....Pilot...Ever (1, Funny)

Boronx (228853) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805592)

(Blip disappears off of radar)

Tech: What was that?

Adama: That was my son.

One of the best series ever put on television (4, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805716)

It's funny, I expected to really hate it too. When I heard they were remaking Battlestar Galactica and casting Starbuck as a woman, my first thought was "Oh great, another cheeseball, politically-correct retread that pales in comparison to the original." Boy was I wrong. At first I wasn't even going to watch the miniseries, but at the last minute I decided to and it absolutely floored me. It was one of the most aggressively brilliant pieces of television I have ever seen, before or since.

It was also the first serious attempt to deal with 9-11 that anyone had done up to that point, and it was absolutely gut-wrenching. The idea of tying the premise of a fairly cheesy 70's TV series into 9-11 now seems so obvious, yet who would have thought of it at the time? There is no way you could have made this remake at any other time, or gave it that kind of brutal impact. The shot of those nuclear explosions blanketing Caprica left me just stunned. And seeing that Raptor lifting off and leaving Helo behind was heartbreaking and inspiring at the same time.

And, amazingly, it got even better in the first season.

Re:One of the best series ever put on television (3, Insightful)

electrictroy (912290) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805766)

Where's the 9-11 connection? I don't see it.

I see lots of connections to WW1 and 2 however.

Re:One of the best series ever put on television (3, Funny)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805820)

It has explosions, no other TV show ever had that before.

Re:One of the best series ever put on television (4, Insightful)

clickclickdrone (964164) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805876)

>Where's the 9-11 connection?
Not so much 9-11 per-se. More the general 'war on terror'. You have an 'enemy' living amongst you at look like you but want to do you harm. Add in state sponsored torture, questions about what is acceptable in war versus peace time and so on. When thy spent some time living on New Caprica there was the issue of one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

Re:One of the best series ever put on television (4, Informative)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805912)

If it wasn't blatantly obvious to you, even on the first viewing, then I can't help you. But there are tons of interviews with Ronald Moore and David Eick where they elaborate on this, if you really need them to draw you a picture. Here is a good quote from Moore that sums it up nicely:

Looking at it in a post-9/11 world, brings with it a different resonance than it did [in 1978]. It's a surprisingly dark premise. Twelve entire planets are wiped out in the pilot; entire civilizations destroyed and the survivors are on the run from the enemy. They're not heroically doing anything except trying to survive and hunting for a place called Earth... In the original version, where the characters are coming to peace, and in the version I want to tell where they are at peace, suddenly this bolt from the blue happens and it just shocks their collective psyche in a very profound way... What happens to the people in Galactica is what happened to us in September, but in several orders of magnitude larger. It's sort of like saying September 11th happens, but the only people who survive are the people inside the Twin Towers. So it feels like what we'll be able to do is play out the psychic and emotional reverberations of that kind of an apocalypse through the characters and through the series.

Re:One of the best series ever put on television (1)

electrictroy (912290) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806154)

Sounds more like the Cold War than 9/11. After all, 9/11 only killed a few people, not billions. See the tv miniseries "The Day After" for a closer comparison to what Galactica represents.

Re:One of the best series ever put on television (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806446)

Well, you obviously know better than Ronald Moore of David Eick what BSG is all about.

Re:One of the best series ever put on television (1)

electrictroy (912290) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806638)

They may be the creators, but that doesn't give them the right to dictate my thoughts or opinions. In my opinion, Galactica is more like "The Day After" or "Jericho" than the destruction of two buildings that happened September 11, 2001.

It's a matter of scale, and the destruction experienced on Galactica far exceeds anything we've experienced.

Re:One of the best series ever put on television (2, Interesting)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806500)

Good point. This whole "they are among us" hysteria isn't just limited to 9-11.

People in general (especially teenagers) just tend to be self centered and
think that they are the only people since the beginning of time that have
ever "suffered" in the same way. As far as the WWII connection goes, there
were concentration camps set up in the US to deal with the whole "they are
among us" hysteria. Just ask George Takei.

We need a spoof where communist pod people start replacing Cylons...

Interesting (1)

GodCandy (1132301) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805598)

I tried to watch this series once. I never really got into it (though I dont watch too much tv). I do however have friends who are big into it. I think its great that there working on a 4th series. Hopefully it will be as good as the first 3... or at least as good as I am told the first 3 are.

That's a mistake (4, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805626)

The miniseries and first season of BSG was probably the best science fiction even made for television. But it has declined significantly in quality since then. I'm actually glad this is the last season of the show (since it allows them to give a definite conclusion to the series before it declines even more, and gives them a focus that they lacked in season 3). Making follow-up movies or series is a mistake, and it would only tarnish the name of a once-brilliant series.

Re:That's a mistake (1)

stevencbrown (238995) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805674)

Do you really think it's declined in quality?

I got into it a bit late, (got a deal on the mini series plus all 3 series box set), and was glad I did.

I can kind of see where you're coming from about the second series, as some of it was drifting a bit I thought, but I really enjoyed the third series - feel things are setting up so well, and the last double episode was superb.

plus Dean Stockwell wasn't in the first series ;-)

Re:That's a mistake (1)

electrictroy (912290) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805810)

SEASON people. It's called the "third season" in American television. The word "series" refers to the whole package from episode 1 to the grand finale, and therefore:

first series == Galactica
second series == Caprica
third series == who knows?

Re:That's a mistake (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805874)

Yet in the REST of the world it is called series. The world doesn't resolve around America, and I get really annoyed when Hollywood ruins a good story by making it happen in NY or LA instead of the country it came from.

What's worse is that I live in the USA.

Re:That's a mistake (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806184)

)Why don't we compromise and call it based on the country of origin (BBC shows have series, U.S. shows have seasons) and leave it at that? Must we argue over EVERYTHING?

Re:That's a mistake (3, Informative)

electrictroy (912290) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806194)

Well.

British citizens insist I say "series three" when discussing Doctor Who, or "series one" when discussing Torchwood. And that's fair because both are British shows. I respect that. ----- Therefore it seems reasonable that when discussing American or Canadian shows, you use the American/Canadian designations of "season".

Respect flows both ways.

Re:That's a mistake (1)

espressojim (224775) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806610)

But one shouldn't even mention Torchwood.

Re:That's a mistake (1)

Comboman (895500) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806754)

Yet in the REST of the world it is called series.

I can find no evidence of that. The UK and Ireland call one years worth of episodes a series. But in the rest of the English-speaking world (USA, Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand) it's called a season (Australia's public broadcasting channel uses series but the private broadcasters use season).

Re:That's a mistake (1)

nedburns (1238162) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806520)

I definitely declined in quality. So much so that the wife and I quit watching after weeks of disgust. It started out amazing, but sputtered to the same feet dragging mediocrity most hit shows have been engaging in lately.

I see the cycle as this:

1. Creators write brilliant premise, thinking it will never be bought
2. Some studio gives it a chance
3. Fans adore it for its originality (even a remake can have originality), quality, storyline, writing, everything else...
4. Studio gets $$$
5. Reasonable story arc is nearing completion. Studio/authors want to ride the cash wave as long as possible, so...
6. Plot stalls, overly complex and wacky characters and situations are added, a few fake deaths here and there, etc
7. Show sucks for a while, viewers with limited time and attention drift away
8. Studio gets less $$$, realizes they need to finish the thing
9. Last several episodes and story arc follow the original concept and have killer ratings. Despite the middle suckiness, fans remember the show as it ended and are happy enough to buy some seasons on DVD
10. Seeing the DVD sales, studios want to cash in with a spinoff, prequel, etc. This goes over suckily for a while until people have had enough and forget about the show
11. Just when the show is a vague memory in the corner of people's minds, a writer sees an opportunity to re-write the show and fix its flaws for a new generation.
12. GOTO 1


(i know GOTO's are bad form, but it's the entertainment industry, which is pretty badly formed already)

Re:That's a mistake (1)

nedburns (1238162) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806590)

*It definitely declined in quality

I may have too, but the point of the post was the decline in the show, so the typo matters :)

Re:That's a mistake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22805682)

Disagree - sometimes 'reboots' or follow ons do not work (Star Wars prequels) and sometimes they do (Star Wars animated series, Dr. Who). It could work. I do grant that the signal to noise ratio is a little skewed in favor of producing garbage if history is any indicator.

Re:That's a mistake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22805718)

That's the same mistaken preconception that wouldn't die and eventually killed Enterprise. You must be a Cylon.

Re:That's a mistake (5, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805738)

The "Enterprise" cancellation wasn't murder. It was a mercy killing.

Re:That's a mistake (1)

kalirion (728907) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805960)

It would've been in the first season, but from everything I heard it was feeling much better by the end.

Re:That's a mistake (4, Insightful)

fifedrum (611338) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805728)

I want to respectfully disagree with the opinion that the series is in decline, but I can't, except to qualify it: decline of quality to any degree that matters. IMO, when we compare this series to any other on television, even the lowest quality episode is better than the best quality the rest of the dial has to offer. I believe the intensity of the plots and story lines ebbed and flowed and will peak in season 5 as a natural part of telling this story, and that this isn't taking away from the impact the series had in season 4, or as it moves into the last season. I agree that all episodes aren't created equal. I do definately get the impression they blew their wad in the mini-series and season 1... Even still, this is the first time I've ever watched a television show and literally sat on the edge of my seat fully captured by the story.

Re:That's a mistake (3, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805814)

Well, yeah, it's relative of course. It's sort of like pointing out that "The Simpsons" has declined in greatly in quality. Even at their absolute worst, they're still better than 90% of everything else out there. BSG is still easily one of the best TV series of all time, even with the decline. But in the miniseries and 1st season, it was THE best TV series of all time.

Re:That's a mistake (1)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806544)

I found the dramatic shift at the start of season 3 very jarring and the content repellent. I almost stopped watching the show. High quality but unenjoyable for me (and a big change).

Overall it seems like a decent series and I hope they have a good ending in mind (unlike what happened in B5-- I was like "four years and it ends like this???" (and then they tacked on a 5th season after they were not cancelled after all).

Re:That's a mistake (1)

Speare (84249) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805840)

I haven't seen recent episodes of the new BSG, but I can bet that we're not going to have the same lame conclusion that the original BSG had. I mean, really... Dirk Benedict figuring out how to drive an Earth car on two wheels, twenty seconds after learning that the device runs on an "internal combustion" power source, that set the gold standard for lame series finales.

Re:That's a mistake (1)

kalirion (728907) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805878)

Didn't Scotty program a new OS in 5 minutes on a 20th century computer in one of the Star Trek movies.

Re:That's a mistake (2, Funny)

clickclickdrone (964164) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805998)

But by then they had *really* good object frameworks and a new OS is just like playing with Lego. ;-)

Re:That's a mistake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22805922)

"The miniseries and first season of BSG was probably the best science fiction even made for television. But it has declined significantly in quality since then."

I've heard this before but think it must come from people uncomfortable with the parallels series 3 draws with Guantanemo, torture of prisoners, extraordinary rendition etc.

Spoilers? Series 3 has been available on DVD (UK) since January.

Re:That's a mistake (2, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806376)

Actually the "torture of prisoners" issue was dealt with in Season 1 as well (in "Flesh and Bone"). The problem isn't the way they deal with controversial issues (though it is getting a little heavy-handed); it's in the general writing, weak pacing, and lack of direction. For one thing, season 1 had a good mix of different kinds of episodes, to give the viewer some breathing room. Bleaker episodes like "33" and "Flesh and Bone" were occasionally offset by more upbeat episodes like "Hand of God" and "Colonial Day" (and even some comic relief in "Six Degrees of Separation"). And it had a very strong sense of direction. The season was structured clearly to end with the discovery of Kobol and the realization of a subtle mysticism that had been subtly hinted at throughout the season.

Season 1 also had an immediacy and mystery that's lacking now. Moore himself referred in an interview once to one of the biggest problems they had on Star Trek--the fact that enemies who are initially frightening can become much less intimidating the more you best them (and get to know them and their flaws and weaknesses). The Cylons were initially a force of nature, a mystery with an unknown agenda. But, in subsequent seasons, we've seen so many of their flaws, so many of their weaknesses. And so they seem to have lost that intimidating air of mystery that they once had. And whatever "plan" they had at first seems to have fallen by the wayside at this point.

Re:That's a mistake (1)

Splab (574204) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806658)

Yeah I always wondered about that they have a plan thing. Sometimes they want to annihilate, then enslave, then be friends, then back to slavery and killing. Damnit! make up your AI minds! or at least get some new updates or something.

Re:That's a mistake (2, Insightful)

sensationull (889870) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806150)

I have to agree, the mini-series was fantastic and season one was also really good. Season 2 was pretty good but when season three rolled around it just lost momentum, it became so much about reflecting politics and current events that it became harder to stay interested in. It dragged and slowed down then really just became a pre-staging area for season four.

I do hope that they pick up the ball for the last season because it was fantastic and still can be if they pick it up a little and mirror current events subtly rather than just adding special effects and a loose plot to the daily news.

Re:That's a mistake (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806268)

The miniseries and first season of BSG was probably the best science fiction even made for television. But it has declined significantly in quality since then. I'm actually glad this is the last season of the show (since it allows them to give a definite conclusion to the series before it declines even more, and gives them a focus that they lacked in season 3). Making follow-up movies or series is a mistake, and it would only tarnish the name of a once-brilliant series.
Agreed 100%. I gave up watching after the Jimi Hendrix jumping the shark moment. It had been significantly declining since the end of the second season, but that moment was one of the most awful I've ever seen in any Sci-Fi TV show - it made Spock's Brain look plausible.

The only advantage of a prequel is that might actually give them the opportunity to address the MASSIVE plot holes. New show runners, ones who have vision and can drive a story forward with momentum, ones who understand the rhythm and cadence of a story arc, are must-hires though. The current show runners are the absolute undoubted cause of the poor quality of BSG.

Re:That's a mistake (1)

AGSHender (696890) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806780)

The miniseries and first season of BSG was probably the best science fiction even made for television. But it has declined significantly in quality since then. I'm actually glad this is the last season of the show (since it allows them to give a definite conclusion to the series before it declines even more, and gives them a focus that they lacked in season 3). Making follow-up movies or series is a mistake, and it would only tarnish the name of a once-brilliant series.
I disagree. The first season was a phenomenal accomplishment in television scifi, but I thought the third season was the best. It lacked some direction, yes, but it was the best full season presentation of probably any show I've watched. Every episode was like the train was picking up speed, even if you didn't know where it was headed and it kept changing tracks. My non-geek girlfriend and I plowed through the third season in about a week just because we couldn't bear to watch anything else and every episode was so well done.

As a partially-related aside, "Exodus, Part II" is my favorite episode of any scifi TV show I've ever watched, and if I were compiling a montage of "awesome scenes I love watching over and over" from scifi over the years, that episode would get two entries.

And, this series will explain (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22805652)

How Starbuck became Darth Vader.

Better title (1)

goombah99 (560566) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805956)

The should call it Deep Shark Nine. I think this is all about being able to go back to the "pretty" coiffured models and the sexy hijinks and away for the ragged, poorly bathed cylons.

Re:And, this series will explain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22806526)

I don't think an explanation is required. After I have a few cups of that stuff I get pretty evil myself.

Yahoo has a different story.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22805664)

Please see link. [yahoo.com]

Re:Yahoo has a different story.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22805736)

Goatse link, please mod down. Or don't, and suffer the eye-searing consequences.

"Hillary's the final cylon." (5, Funny)

wiredog (43288) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805706)

Thanks for the spoiler guys!

That explains so much...

Re:"Hillary's the final cylon." (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805754)

Geez, even that Cylons aren't THAT ruthless.

"Atleast they didn't put it in the article title" (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805854)

Y'know, so we can get warned for spoilers and then choose not to read TFA.

Lets call it a "do over"` (3, Interesting)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805720)

because the show jumped the shark in the third season killing off Starbuck only to show her coming back next season.

Really, I was enjoying the show very well until deep into the third we had four lead character singing that damn song and Starbuck dieing and coming back.

Caprica - subtitled "Oops, sorry 'bout that"

Re:Lets call it a "do over"` (1, Interesting)

Ngarrang (1023425) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805802)

because the show jumped the shark in the third season killing off Starbuck only to show her coming back next season.

Really, I was enjoying the show very well until deep into the third we had four lead character singing that damn song and Starbuck dieing and coming back.

Caprica - subtitled "Oops, sorry 'bout that"
Okay, Karma be damned, but I have to say it. This new show jumped the shark when the idiot producer made the changes he did from the actual Battlestar Galactica show. This new show was never BSG, only a poser. There was nothing wrong with the original series, except for being a product of its time. But, change the genders of the most loved character? Bah! Heresy, I say! This show deserves its death. Name the show anything else and it might have had a higher standing in my eyes, but to degrade a classic in such an insipid way?

Re:Lets call it a "do over"` (1)

Pollardito (781263) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806230)

Okay, Karma be damned, but I have to say it. This new show jumped the shark when the idiot producer made the changes he did from the actual Battlestar Galactica show. This new show was never BSG, only a poser. There was nothing wrong with the original series, except for being a product of its time.
they kept so much of the BSG universe though, i think they did a really good job updating it to the times. if you really want to know what was wrong with the original series though, it was Boxy and his robot dog

Re:Lets call it a "do over"` (5, Interesting)

magarity (164372) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805928)

and Starbuck dieing and coming back.
 
There wasn't a body - she just disappeared. So whether she was killed or not is left to your imagination. Maybe she fell into a trans-warp dimensional flux rift in spacetime or somesuch Star Trekish thing.
 
Also, remember the prophesy the priest revealed way back when they were still at Kobol: a renegade demon will lead the way to Earth. Has everyone just assumed that referred to a Sharon?
 
Personally, I'm still holding out for Ellen to be the final Cylon. She was too much of a mess otherwise.

Re:Lets call it a "do over"` (1)

Jonny_eh (765306) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806004)

Or maybe she's a cylon?
When a cylon dies, they get regenerated back at a mothership.

Starbuck 1 dies, Starbuck 2 lives.

BSG Season 4 spoiler: Everyone's a cylon!

Re:Lets call it a "do over"` (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806718)

a renegade demon

Now there is a provocative phrase. The renegade demon - from the Cylon point of view - would almost certainly have to be a Cylon.

Re:Lets call it a "do over"` (3, Interesting)

kalirion (728907) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805944)

I never understood myself how they made the connection from having a song stuck in their head to being cylons.

Re:Lets call it a "do over"` (3, Insightful)

clickclickdrone (964164) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806046)

I thought the song was just their 'switch on' code and them hearing it and feeling a urge to go to the meeting room was part of them being 'enabled'

Re:Lets call it a "do over"` (1)

Peter La Casse (3992) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806454)

People who like songs from 1968 are Cylons!

Re:Lets call it a "do over"` (1)

Ritorix (668826) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806766)

The song was an device to indicate to the viewer their dawning awareness of their cylon-ness. One of the podcasts explained it along those lines.

Re:Lets call it a "do over"` (2)

BlackSnake112 (912158) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806222)

I thought they killed of Starbuck since she was also doing another TV show. Granted same owners (Sci-Fi and NBC) but usually most networks do not like the 'stars' doing more then one full time show. Of course BSG remake of a 70's tv show and so is Bionic Woman. A pattern maybe? Is Buck Rodgers next?

Re:Lets call it a "do over"` (2, Insightful)

smooth wombat (796938) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806804)

Is Buck Rodgers next?


Only so long as they can get someone who can approach Erin Gray [wikipedia.org] in natural beauty when wearing a metallic full-body jumpsuit.

Re:Lets call it a "do over"` (1)

The Great Pretender (975978) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806624)

I have to say that the return of Starbuck and the 'song' lead me to hedge on the bet that there are two sets of cylons. The ones that attacked the colonies at the beginning and one set who have already found or are from God/Earth (the missing tribe) and want to bring all the 'children' home and together. Just my 2 cents

The 1980's want their show back (1)

OnslaughtQ (711594) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805764)

Okay, so the 1980's redo and this show aren't exactly the same, but come on, if a land-based show failed the first time, why do it again?
For the same reason, when people ask me if I've watched the new Knight Rider, I reply, "No. I already saw Knight Rider 2000 and Viper"

Re:The 1980's want their show back (1)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805818)

Given the massive positive response to BSG, I'd say that the show's performance answers your question. Critically, it's been frequently regarded as a masterpiece. For a show on Sci Fi, ratings have even been quite good. The only problem is that it costs a lot to make it, and when Sci Fi can instead fund horribly written, poorly acted, comparatively dirt cheap shows like Atlantis and get ratings even on the same order of magnitude, they're financially better off doing so, at least in the short term. Still, four seasons is nothing for BSG to be ashamed of. I don't think many of us look at Farscape and say, "What a terrible waste of time. Four seasons? Why'd they even bother?"

Re:The 1980's want their show back (5, Funny)

kalirion (728907) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805920)

horribly written, poorly acted, comparatively dirt cheap shows like Atlantis

Dirt cheap? Do you know how much it costs to rent the same acre of forest for every single episode?

Re:The 1980's want their show back (1)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806068)

Don't forget the same cave, same factory to represent all industrialized worlds, and the costumes for the nazi planet.

Re:The 1980's want their show back (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806472)

At least they don't have to pay Richard Dean Anderson's exorbitant $20-per-week salary anymore.

Re:The 1980's want their show back (1)

OnslaughtQ (711594) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805996)

I agree with your comments, but my original argument was on the merits of doing another land-based show, not why make a follow-up in general. Like you said, it costs a lot of money to make, and I see them moving to a land-based show as a way to save on the cost. However, this could mean that the prequel series will once again be horribly low budget and feature such gripping drama as chasing newer humanoid model Cylons through the buildings of the city. But it's a prequel, so they shouldn't have newer models, right? Doesn't matter, they have no budget anymore for robotic looking things, so they try and make it fit with continuity best they can. Meanwhile, BSG fans are horrified by the continuity changes and Enterprise viewers just give them a hug.

Geeks Afraid of Religion (5, Insightful)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805768)

I think that a lot of the backlash against BSG in the last season was the product of the discomfort a lot of us geeks have toward religion being mixed into our scifi. I think that BSG's main mistake, if I can call it that, is being off the air for so long between seasons. It really breaks up the narrative flow and serves to make us effectively forget what the cliffhangars from the previous season were.

Re:Geeks Afraid of Religion (4, Insightful)

tmalone (534172) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805892)

I think you're partly right about that. I also think that having the humans become terrorists during the occupation made many people uncomfortable. I also think that the series of craptacular single-shot episodes in the middle of the third season made many fans leave the show. Some of those episodes (the factory ship episode comes to mind) were so inane as to be almost unwatchable.
You're right that the huge gap between seasons is bad for business. People who aren't devout followers of the show are simply going to forget about it.

Re:Geeks Afraid of Religion (4, Insightful)

Xelios (822510) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806270)

I think the bit about humans becoming terrorists was one of the best plot points of the 3rd season. It made you question this preconceived notion that terrorists are somehow inherently evil, that there's such a thing as "good people" and "bad people" and that "good people" would never do what those "bad people" are doing. The events on New Caprica wanted to show that "normal" people could resort to terrorism given the right conditions, and how acts of terrorism just don't seem quite as barbarous when it's your side that's being oppressed.

Disclaimer for the DHS: I do not condone terrorism, thanks.

Re:Geeks Afraid of Religion (4, Funny)

discord5 (798235) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806476)

Disclaimer for the DHS: I do not condone terrorism, thanks.

Disclaimer for the parent: we don't read your disclaimers anyway. We'll be meeting soon.

Re:Geeks Afraid of Religion (4, Insightful)

tmalone (534172) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806482)

I agree that it was one of the best plot points. I think many people were a little put off by it though. This is especially true of people who saw Battlestar as an allegory for 9/11. This ruthless other (that turns out to be a bunch of religious fanatics) comes to wipe out "civilization" and now the humans are on the run. Then it turns out that when the going gets tough, some of the humans turn to terrorist acts. I can see that being a little upsetting to some people. In fact, I witnessed this in the reactions of some friends who were shocked at twist in the story.
This is what makes the show so great: it doesn't pull any punches. The writers don't seem to care about destroying people's conceptions of who is good and who is bad.

Re:Geeks Afraid of Religion (1)

NorthWestFLNative (973147) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806408)

I also think that having the humans become terrorists during the occupation made many people uncomfortable.

Ah, but don't you find it ironic that the leaders of the insurgents were Cylon's themselves? Things that may have made us uncomfortable on the first viewing have a much different interpretation after watching all of 3.

Re:Geeks Afraid of Religion (1)

tmalone (534172) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806554)

hmm, that hadn't occurred to me. Good point, I'll have to go think about that for a while now. Seriously, Battlestar needs to come back NOW!

Re:Geeks Afraid of Religion (5, Insightful)

Xeth (614132) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806048)

Except that religion was a part of it straight through the Kobol arc in the first and second seasons (which was, IMHO, one of the best parts of the series,and many people agree). No, the problem was that they just did a bunch of one-off episodes with no real resolution or consequences. E.g. (Season 3 spoilers follow): The return of Bulldog and revelations about corruption and warmongering in the admiralty. That went nowhere. The killing of Sagittarons? Swept under the rug and forgotten. The unhappiness and emerging classism in the fleet? 10 second resolution at the end, and not a peep since.

Re:Geeks Afraid of Religion (1)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806102)

I think that the nature of the religion changed as the show went on (it seemed more like personal spirituality and less like a cool ancient mythology). I agree with your comment, though. I had forgotten about all the one-offs because they were...well, forgettable.

Re:Geeks Afraid of Religion (3, Insightful)

tmalone (534172) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806636)

The one-offs could have been okay if they hadn't been so horrible. I think the problem with the one-offs is that the writers don't know how to write a one-off. They start on the episode like any other episode that will have consequences, then they get to the end and realize they aren't allowed to change anything, so they just end it and return everything to normal, despite the massive internal changes that occurred. Either that, or they farmed out the writing to a bunch of hacks, because some of those episodes were just poorly written.

Re:Geeks Afraid of Religion (1)

Coraon (1080675) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806700)

I Don't think its the first SiFI on TV to do it. DS9 did it a lot, Stargate did it. This is the first show though to show the monotheists (IE Christians) to be the bad guys and polytheists (IE the colony's or pagans). Which for me reminds me a lot of what happened in Europe long ago, when the romans pushed the pagans out. That and the 'good' guys using sueside bombers to try to win, scares you. I think you are troubled by this show because it takes you out of your comfort zone. You don't like thinking perhaps you are the bad guys.

And for once when.... (1)

moezaly (1197755) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805834)

... you RTFA u find a spoiler in the article.... lol... Was it just me who read the title as Crapica?

Spoilers in the article! (5, Funny)

Millennium (2451) | more than 6 years ago | (#22805984)

And in this post as well: Six kills Dumbledore.

Creation of the Cylons? (2, Insightful)

iknownuttin (1099999) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806054)

I really hope they address the creation of the cylons or at least how they came to the conclusion that humans should be exterminated. I would find that plot intriguing. Also, the hiring of more leggy and busty actresses would help, too. ;-)

Re:Creation of the Cylons? (3, Interesting)

BlackSnake112 (912158) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806354)

One other thing that I've been wondering about. If the Chief is a cylon, is his new wife a cylon? If not then they also have a cylon/human hybrid.

And also, who tipped off that there were 12 models?

But...
Remember how the cylons keep saying that all this has happened before? Maybe the cylons are trying to figure out what happened/ where they could have done better and this is all a cylon simulation. Everything. The cylons recreated people from the past (all cylon) programed to be those real people. So the entire series is a simulation of past events.

I gonna get so flamed for this...

spoiler alert (1, Funny)

sir 8ed (207862) | more than 6 years ago | (#22806262)

I *knew* Hillary was a cylon!
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