Intel Cuts Prices, Reveals Details of New Celeron 69
Chacham sent us some interesting Intel tidbits from Yahoo! News: First, they're cutting prices on P-II and P-IIIs between 26% and 41% (depending on model) tomorrow. Second, this October they plan to release a new line of 600 MHz+ Celerons using their recently-developed 0.18 micron manufacturing process, which isn't "new" news, but the referenced article goes into more detail than previous ones on the subject so it's worth a quick scan.
proper link (Score:1)
Re:cutting price link (Score:1)
Re:cutting price link (Score:1)
He seems to have edited my story and missed a small point. The extra words "First,they're a href=" was from my story.
Not a complaint. Just clearing my side.
Re:Let's thank AMD (Score:2)
Absolutely! If Athelon had performed poorly in benchmarks, Intel would have never cut it's prices.
The next thing to look at is how 1GHz cooled Athelon systems (from Kryotech, with AMD's blessing IIRC) affect Intel's policy on overclocking.
Flip-chip to parallel pin adaptor (Score:1)
Re:Athlon to compete with Celeron at the Low End (Score:1)
Re:Flip-chip to parallel pin adaptor (Score:1)
I'll be interested to see if the new Celerons can be used in older boards. Intel isn't always considerate when it comes to backward compatibility, and they gotta sell new chipsets too.. although credit where credit is due, with the Celeron itself they came up with a fine upgrade path for old LX Pentium II boards. Anyhow, I'm hopeful that I'll eventually be able to replace the overclocked 550 Mhz Celerons on my dual slot 1 BX board, something like an 800 Mhz Celeron II might provide a good boost. I've recently learned here that I should use the Fraunhofer encoder so I'm once again waiting for my PC.
Great! (Score:1)
Athlon to compete with Celeron at the Low End (Score:1)
What are these people saying? I thought Athlon was soon going to be 750MHz and faster?
Good bye Celery.
Re:Multiprocessor capabilities ? (Score:1)
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Re:Multiprocessor capabilities ? (Score:1)
I heard that a particular 386 clone which came in two versions, with 4KB and 8KB cache, used this technique. The 4KB version was identical to the more expensive chip, but with half the cache disabled.
Re:Multiprocessor capabilities ? (Score:1)
Intel specifically designed two separate lines with different characteristics to cover more of the market; it's been doing this even since the 386sx was devised.
The Celeron was intended to be the cheap entry-level job, as Cyrix and AMD were doing too well out of the entry-level sector. It worked. As fab techonlogy improves, there probably will be more integrated caches and fewer compromises like backside and half-clock L2, but Intel will just come up with something else to demarcate its product lines.
Get real. And be glad that there IS a sinple bodge to overcome one of the handicaps.
Celerons piece (Score:1)
The only unexpected thing, in fact, was how amazingly badly-written that article was. Lousy punctuation, grammar, and a strong impression that the author didn't really understand what he was reporting on. Bit crap for a major news service, really.
Hell, it was almost down to Newsbytes' level.
Big Brother? (Score:1)
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Alas! Poor AMD (Score:1)
Given what this sort of price cutting does to spur PC sales, it's probably in software companies' interest to throw money at AMD to prop them up for a few more years just to keep the pressure on Intel.
Re:Multiprocessor capabilities ? (Score:1)
PII 450 is $180 now (Score:1)
Re:I am still buying an Athlon (Score:1)
Office computers are generally so poorly equipped that they can't be used to play games (except Solitaire maybe).. integrated graphics cards, bottom quality HD, cheap keyboards, small monitors.. Trust me, I have to use one of these things.
Dammit anyways... (Score:1)
Here's the link (Score:1)
Yeah, unfortunately (Score:2)
*sigh*
Let's thank AMD (Score:3)
Multiprocessor capabilities ? (Score:2)
Does anyone have infos about that ?
my favorite part of the (600mhz) article (Score:1)
Here's the scoop: (Score:1)
The lower priced Athlons are not crippled, they're slow because they have smaller, slower cache, likely clocked to 1/3 core speed. The high end version, called the Athlon Ultra will have larger cache expected to run at 2/3 or even full speed, and shipment is expected with 1MB or more of cache.
And yes, Yahoo! is in denial that the Athlon is faster(THINK PR
One thing that Yahoo!News declined to mention is that Intel, with the new Coppermine core is not expected to be significantly more efficient per clock cycle than the current PIII cores. The
I must congratulate AMD on a job well done. I'm not an AMD evangelist, just a gamer who demands the highest level of performance.
Re:Yeah, unfortunately (Score:1)
The articles may not be intended as FUD, but that's the effect all the same. We and the media should focus on the positive regarding the Athlon for a while.
Re:Alas! Poor AMD (Score:1)
And in consumers' interest as well. If you have the choice between an AMD processor and an Intel processor with equivalent performance, and the AMD costs 10-20% more, go for the AMD. Don't do it out of AMD advocacy; think of it as a downpayment on your next processor, which you might not be able to afford at all if you don't pay a little down on it now.
Re:Hopefully AMD will lower prices too (Score:1)
cutting price link (Score:1)
And i wonder how low they'll go?
Re:Taking Bets - will 100MHz Celerons be SMP enabl (Score:1)
Re:Multiprocessor capabilities ? (Score:1)
-Barry
I'm no engineer. If I'm entirely wrong, please don't flame me, it will make me cry.
Summary is wrong: Coppermine out at 600MHz (Score:1)
Re:Athlon to compete with Celeron at the Low End (Score:2)
Just overclock the bus to 100mhz (Score:1)
oh yeah it's not "stock" and you can blow up your chip just like if you mess up the rez setting with a modern moniter when you are setting up you can blow it up. =)
If that's where the tax dollars go... (Score:1)
Re:Athlon to compete with Celeron at the Low End (Score:1)
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whats the big deal? (Score:1)
People can say that this price drop was all because of the Athlon; maybe, but if their prices didn't drop continously then no-one would buy Intel's new chips.
Next time, how about an article that says the sun set in Minnesota?
Re:cutting price link (Score:1)
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Re:Let's thank AMD (Score:1)
this was expected (Score:1)
Re:PII 450 is $180 now (Score:1)
If it sounds to good to be true, then it probably is.
Re:Athlon to compete with Celeron at the Low End (Score:1)
)#(&^)&^$!!!!! (Score:1)
Doesnt matter (Score:1)
Re:Flip-chip to parallel pin adaptor (Score:1)
Good job for Intel.. (Score:1)
Best thing i've heard all day..
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Re:cutting price link (Score:2)
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Taking Bets - will 100MHz Celerons be SMP enabled? (Score:1)
Meanwhile, the build-it-yourself hobbyists will have the choice of a cheap 1cpu Athlon system, an almost as cheap SMP celeron system, or an expensive SMP Athlon system. For anyone running Win2K, BeOS, Linux, or whatever that is not Win98, it is a no-brainer to pay a couple of bucks extra and get an extra 60-80% performance benefit.
Think of SMP capable, super-overclockable, 100MHz celerons as Intel's stealth weapon against AMD in the hobbyist market.
This is the way competition is suppossed to work, and I sure hope it does because come next year when those .18 micron celerons start to show up, is when I plan on upgrading to a new system and I want it cheap and fast.