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Ringside Networks To Unveil Social App Server

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the hi-bub-howdy-how-do-ya-do dept.

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eWeekPete writes "Ringside Networks tomorrow will formally launch as a company and also launch what it calls the first open-source social application server that seamlessly integrates Facebook applications with any Web site. The Ringside Social Application Server includes a Social Application Engine that enables Web site developers to quickly build, customize, and deploy their own social applications as well as the included set of standard social applications such as user profiles, friends, groups, comments, ratings, favorites, and events. Ringside also delivers support for federated social graphs for integrating Ringside-based social graphs with other social networks, such as Facebook. In addition, the product features an extensible API and tag library to enable developers to extend Facebook's API and markup language, as well to as define their own application-specific APIs and tags to handle custom behavior and improve Web site integration." Matt Asay had an advance look at Ringside a few days back.

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Amazing! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22851682)

It can also integrate buzzwords into story summaries with ease! Think of the synergy!

Re:Amazing! (1)

weighn (578357) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852206)

It can also integrate buzzwords into story summaries with ease! Think of the synergy!
Should be great for the incremental subsumption of so'net knowledge users, especially now that the right-sized pricing structure has received a homogeneous definition which should be an enabler and champion of the leverage of the competitors' customers.

Anti-social (-1, Troll)

explosivejared (1186049) | more than 6 years ago | (#22851688)

first open-source social application server

As an ardent anti-social who is learning the ways of open source software as we speak (puppy linux to be exact), I firmly and defiantly have only this to say:

DO NOT WANT!

Great. (3, Funny)

rpdelaney (1256672) | more than 6 years ago | (#22851692)

Now I feed my addiction to the facebook virus without even logging in.

Re:Great. (1)

youthoftoday (975074) | more than 6 years ago | (#22851720)

Well at least you know your facebook-agent program will be more fanatical than you are.

Re:Great. (1)

Oktober Sunset (838224) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852158)

Yes, it will kill many Persians.

Well (4, Interesting)

Joseph1337 (1146047) | more than 6 years ago | (#22851844)

Facebook and Myspace - the AIDS and HIV of the cyber age... nothing better than a virtual friends

Re:Well (0, Flamebait)

insertwackynamehere (891357) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852106)

The analogy doesn't make sense and actually at least with Facebook it ISN'T virtual friends unlike old fashioned web forums. It is real friends. But good job tricking some dimwit with modpoints into thinking your comment was relevant or thoughtful.

Re:Well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22852438)

Yes THEY ARE REAL!!! I saw them too! I saw those friends you talking about. They used to call me crazy to talk to imaginary people, but now I just met someone that knows they are real!!!
Now, go back to immerse yourself on the WoW, and don't forget to take the blue pill, it is good for you...

Re:Well (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 6 years ago | (#22855152)

The analogy doesn't make sense and actually at least with Facebook it ISN'T virtual friends unlike old fashioned web forums. It is real friends. But good job tricking some dimwit with modpoints into thinking your comment was relevant or thoughtful.

I agree, and I'm surprised at the moderation too - the irony of people on Slashdot joking about only having online friends! Maybe just because they don't have any friends IRL, they assume everyone else must be like them.

It's not 1990 anymore - since just about everyone IRL has Internet access, it's perfectly feasible to communicate with real friends through the Internet, just like with phones etc (honestly, and I thought this was supposed to be a up to date tech site? Maybe it's just the dislike of "social networking" sites that seems to plague these stories - time to view at -1 I guess).

Re:Well (1)

ubrgeek (679399) | more than 6 years ago | (#22855418)

The only reason I can think that this would be modded "flamebait" is because the parent somehow found a way around the "no modding stories to which you post a comment."

Re:Well (1)

insertwackynamehere (891357) | more than 6 years ago | (#22864774)

Metamods: this isn't flamebait. Read the parent.

Re:Well (1)

Ciarang (967337) | more than 6 years ago | (#22874658)

Metametamods: the parent was referring to the parent of the parent when he said "this", and the parent of the parent of the parent when he said "the parent".

Re:Well (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 6 years ago | (#22855162)

Facebook and Myspace - the AIDS and HIV of the cyber age... nothing better than a virtual friends

- says User Joseph1337 posting to Slashdot.

Oh Boy! All those great Facebook apps! (4, Insightful)

FatSean (18753) | more than 6 years ago | (#22851858)

Every facebook app seems to be one four basic apps with tweaked graphics and settings.

Re:Oh Boy! All those great Facebook apps! (4, Interesting)

owlnation (858981) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852110)

And all of them (apparently) live stream your personal data to every advertiser on the planet.

Re:Oh Boy! All those great Facebook apps! (1)

jimmux (1096839) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852950)

So let me get this right. I can't access someone's details if they choose to block me or only show their friends. But if I'm an advertiser I can access whatever personal data I want. So if I (hypothetically) wanted to stalk someone, I should just become an advertiser. And how would I go about doing this? A... friend would like to know.

But seriously, does being open source present privacy issues? For example, my understanding is that it is not possible for Facebook applications to track visitors to a person's profile. This is done deliberately and some would argue that Facebook is all the better for it. Is it possible that this could change?

super-duper-ultimate-your-collection-quiz-poke app (2, Insightful)

pbhj (607776) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852200)

You obviously haven't seen the super-duper-ultimate-your-collection-quiz-poke application then

</sarcasm>

Re:Oh Boy! All those great Facebook apps! (1)

STrinity (723872) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852310)

But now you can run pirates vs cavemen on your own server.

Re:Oh Boy! All those great Facebook apps! (1)

bendodge (998616) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852340)

I'm somewhat of the same opinion, but I actually do use and enjoy the Friends for Sale! app. It's a rather novel idea: you trade your friends around like stocks or something and try to come out on top.

Slashvertisment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22851872)


slow news day ? first we have a games spammers site on the front page and now we have to read press releases from crappy facebook leech companies on an advert infested eweak site.
Still at least we know what sites to block when reading stories here

Please, no pre-news (2, Funny)

Wesley Felter (138342) | more than 6 years ago | (#22851912)

If it's being released tomorrow, why not post the story tomorrow when the site [ringsidenetworks.com] will actually work? (Usually people complain about Slashdot being a day behind all the other news sites, so this is a new one for me.)

Also, this is a Slashvertisement.

Just what we needed. (1)

Lewrker (749844) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852016)

Biting chumps now possible on every website you can imagine. That is after you blog it and digg it.

eventually (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22852084)

it's going to happen: we will have enough of Facebook, our addiction will dry up and we want to be faceless again.

Re:eventually (1)

Auraiken (862386) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852524)

It's already started with Anonymous. Due to the increasing popularity from the church of scientology protests, it's only a matter of time before people start seeing that they can actually do things as a group without knowing who else is in the group.

Afterwards though, everyone will probably get fed up with anonymity and want to have the "latest cool things" like usernames or personal identification.

More on topic though, will this app server gather personal information from the webpages you visit? Maybe even by using things like your facebook id or matching data from your profiles to form inputs, etc? If so, this is a very Bad Thing(tm). The problem is that facebook is so damn popular that this might actually catch on. :(

Also, is anything I said above even legal?

Ringside vs OpenSocial (2, Interesting)

glitch23 (557124) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852270)

I'm not a web app developer nor do I get heavily into the social websites but I have a subscription to Linux Journal so I've heard and read about OpenSocial through Reuven Lerner's column. I did skim over the article and it did state a later version of this application engine will support compatibility with OpenSocial. But the question I have to those who know more about these types of things, which one (Ringside or OpenSocial) is really the better app? If I'd have to guess I'd say OpenSocial but maybe Ringside offers things that OS doesn't. Can anyone provide a quick compare/contrast?

Re:Ringside vs OpenSocial (1)

fat_mike (71855) | more than 6 years ago | (#22854004)

You are referring to Page 18 of April's issue. Hmm, this reminds me of Page 16 in last month's issue where we learned how to integrate Facebook data. And wasn't the month before that how to make a calculator using Bash?

But that's beside the point, go read some history on BBS's, Usenet, actual computer club meetings where people met face to face (Hello Tandy Users Group). Better app? Is that what's its come down to, who has the better social app? Go create 3rd life or Sims:Ron Jeremy or something.

Re:Ringside vs OpenSocial (1)

glitch23 (557124) | more than 6 years ago | (#22865016)

You are referring to Page 18 of April's issue. Hmm, this reminds me of Page 16 in last month's issue where we learned how to integrate Facebook data. And wasn't the month before that how to make a calculator using Bash?

Yes, 18 of April's issue. I don't know about the month before that. The CLI calculator was a different column, from Dave Taylor, not Reuven Lerner.

But that's beside the point, go read some history on BBS's, Usenet, actual computer club meetings where people met face to face (Hello Tandy Users Group). Better app? Is that what's its come down to, who has the better social app? Go create 3rd life or Sims:Ron Jeremy or something.

I'm not interested in it which is what I stated indirectly in my original post. I don't get into social sites and I don't get into development using them. But for curiousity sake I was wondering how OpenSocial compared to this new commercial application engine. And as far as your rant is concerned, technology progresses (I won't say 'evolves' because that involves lack of design), so even though usenet is still around we have moved beyond that into instant messaging and now I'd wager the next thing beyond IM is the social websites and the applications that build up around them.

Did anyone else... (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852360)

... read this and think this was supposed to be a way to setup wireless networks at boxing matches?

Re:Did anyone else... (1)

Idiomatick (976696) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852476)

No but since your interpretation is more interesting than facebook i'll pretend that its really the case.

Non-web social networking (1)

Warbothong (905464) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852514)

The article is all about running such a server to add a social network to a website, but does it ease creation of open source desktop applications for social networking (ie. where the user has their own database stored on their machine)? It also mentions the ability to talk to Facebook and in the future others, but can they talk to each other in a seamless way (which would be needed to make the first point have any use)?

Most useless product of the year? (1)

theNAM666 (179776) | more than 6 years ago | (#22852708)

I wonder if these guys have considered going into some honest business, say, producing voting machines?

Seriously, I'd like to karma troll by making fun of this product, but it seems such a mind-bogglingly purposeless marketing riff on the "social networking" BS that I can't.

Repeat after me: there is no business model here other than taking investors' money in a complex variation of the Ponzi scheme and "irrational exuberance." There is no real money or value added by this product. classDef(this(product)) does not allow companies to build upon or "capitalize" their existing social networks (etc etc): it allows them to say they're following all the other lemmings.

Repeat grump as necessary.

Most useless [non-basement] product of the year? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22854798)

Funny, the most antisocial comment on a story about being social. But I guess I can understand how a group famously known for not getting along with others would not see the purpose in social software.

Re:Most useless [non-basement] product of the year (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22874622)

How funny. Hello Mr Ringside Networks.

Re:Most useless product of the year? (1)

quincunx55555 (969721) | more than 6 years ago | (#22875568)

You saying the myspace doesn't make enough money from the ads it displays to cover their costs? Not that I enjoy anything about myspace, but I don't think all of their revenue is from investors anymore. Just a guess.

WooT... fp (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22852946)

Value Prop (1)

stacey7165 (1081097) | more than 6 years ago | (#22853052)

I think Javier Soltero, CEO of Hyperic who Bob Bickel, Ringside Networks CEO is a board member to summed it up nicely:

There's a lot of talk these days about social networking and SaaS 'platforms'. Companies expose API's to their services and encourage people to build integrated apps which leverage the power of a CRM (like Salesforce) or social (like OpenSocial or Facebook) platforms into their apps. The nature of this integration typically involves two applications running on separate infrastructure, talking through the Internet through some variant of REST or web services. Aside from Salesforce's Force platform, the majority of the integration between these sorts of apps is done on the outer layers of an application. An app can devote an IFrame or some other piece of screen real estate so it can display content from a platform, or perhaps use Javascript calls to embed functionality. Even in cases like Force (where there's a richer API which can be embedded at any layer of the application), the interests of the platform provider (especially those of ad-driven social networking sites) restrict the ability of a customer of the platform to more deeply integrate the content from a social app into theirs. Ringside's open source Social Application Server is meant to remove that restriction.
For the full post: http://www.hyperic.com/blog/hyperic/2008/03/24/ringside-seats-for-enterprise-20/ [hyperic.com]

Security? (1)

CheeseTroll (696413) | more than 6 years ago | (#22853332)

I have *no* evidence of problems with this product, but given the security holes that have popped up with bulletin-board and blogging software over the past couple of years, this sort of DIY server with that many features bolted on would make me a little skittish about future security holes.

Or maybe I'm just looking for an excuse to be antisocial. :-)

This will go on your Permanent Record (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 6 years ago | (#22854128)

The key feature seems to be "In other words, the Ringside platform allows business owners to gain insight into the social graph of users, relationships, groups, interactions, and sharing that is occurring on their Web site". Right. More targeted ads.

I have a browser extension [sitetruth.com] that monitors advertiser (not user) behavior and reports it to a server. I mentioned this over on Search Engine Watch, where the Adwords crowd hangs out. Anger, threats, intimidation... The idea that someone is tracking advertisers, instead of users, just drives some of them nuts.

So (1)

threefcata (1258676) | more than 6 years ago | (#22854444)

we are going to have FootBook, HandBook, Bodybook.......fill in the list!

The tagging system isn't working for me. (1)

Jacques Chester (151652) | more than 6 years ago | (#22854530)

And so it is with great sadness that I have to forgo tagging this story 'slashvertisement'.

data portability efforts (1)

miruku (642921) | more than 6 years ago | (#22856630)

in relation to servers that do specifically social stuff, it's worth checking out the current dataportability implementations [dataportability.org] . using facebooks methods for doing these kinds of things is just wrong.

more or less social (1)

cavebison (1107959) | more than 6 years ago | (#22865732)

It occurs to me that "The Power of Social Networking" becomes rather diluted once people split into what will be a plethora of different social networking sites. Even now it's like, "I'm on Facebook, what are you doing on MySpace?" Unless the *accounts* are all linked, there's no great advantage I see to just making the apps available to any such site. Great for the advertisers that run the apps, sure, more coverage to them. But it won't improve the social-networking scene in any way for users. It'll just split them up more.
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