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Demonoid Tracker Is Back Online

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the score-one-for-the-mole dept.

The Internet 211

Crymson4 writes "We discussed the shutdown of the Demonoid torrent tracker last fall. For those who don't already know, Demonoid is back up. Looks like they found a new host for the Web site and the tracker is functioning properly as well. For those with old accounts, all the old data has been saved. It's almost as if they never left."

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211 comments

Wha? (3, Insightful)

JoshJ (1009085) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052382)

Okay, seriously, what's the point of invite-only registration? I see right now, it says you have to be an invite, but it also says (on the "got an invite?" page) that they open registration to the public once a month. If they're trying to keep the MAFIAA out via invite-only reg, then why the hell would it ever be open to the public at all?

Re:Wha? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052400)

Its a pure traffic problem, once a month the delete all the idle accounts and let new people join, the invite systems means its fairly easier for you to get in if you want anyway.

though off the top of my head i can also see how a 'closed' system could be a legal defence, your not distributing to the public everyone is a member of your 'private' club.

Re:Wha? (1, Interesting)

RKBA (622932) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052534)

So what day of the month do they allow new memberships? How does one get an invitation?

Re:Wha? (1)

Mike89 (1006497) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052718)

One asks :). I'd email you one but you haven't listed it. Perhaps reply to this with it and I can (though I understand if you're unsecure doing so, etc)

Re:Wha? (0)

badzilla (50355) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052744)

Hey I'd like one please if you're giving them out...

Re:Wha? (2, Interesting)

SacredByte (1122105) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052746)

I would be careful to only give them out to people I trust, as it is my understanding that, should someone you invited get banned, you will as well.

Re:Wha? (0)

cp.tar (871488) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052814)

In that case, I'd like one as well.

Both my name and my e-mail are public, as you can see; my posting history, if nothing else, can help prove I am not a MAFIAA agent.

Re:Wha? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23053098)

Thanks! My email is: investigations@mediasentry.com.

I cannot wait to start torrenting those warez. I'm going to collect hundreds of MP3s! Information wants to be freeeeee!

Re:Wha? (0)

skaet (841938) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053786)

I would appreciate an invite also, been looking around for a while. Incidentally, I have invites available for an aussie-only private tracker.

Re:Wha? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052402)

They're elitist snobs, I was happy to see them go, and I'm displeased to see them back. Information wants to be free.

Re:Wha? (5, Informative)

cwgatling (1258130) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052424)

Elitist? Demonoid is one of the most community-friendly trackers there is. Invites are plentiful and anyone can upload. The information there _is_ free. As a side note, the tracker has been up for months now, but the website was down.

Re:Wha? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052430)

Spoken like someone who doesn't have an account.

Want an invite? :)

Re:Wha? (1)

2br02b (448267) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053266)

muahahahaha

Re:Wha? (5, Funny)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052462)

Information wants to be free.

...says the person posting as an Anonymous Coward.

Re:Wha? (4, Insightful)

jonaskoelker (922170) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052488)

Quick thoughts: by allowing anonymous posting, you make people post something they wouldn't have posted if they couldn't be anonymous, thus making information more free. Also, isn't the public opinion on /. that you should exercise all your rights and powers even though you don't strictly need to?

Re:Wha? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052646)

Hey, some of us are just ducking the membership id police, yeah?

Re:Wha? (2, Insightful)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052660)

Sure, but in a sense it's like saying: "Information wants to be free, except information about me".

Re:Wha? (4, Insightful)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053296)

"Information wants to be free, except information about me".
This is not at all hypocritical. In fact, it's probably the most insightful and practical way to operate in this Age.

Re:Wha? (2, Interesting)

eat here_get gas (907110) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052964)

and here i thought AC was for people who wanted to talk shit and not lose precious all-important Karma

Re:Wha? (1)

wvmarle (1070040) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053002)

Having an account here doesn't necessarily make one much less anonymous, it just allows one to collect karma, and other users to recognise which posts are done by the same individual. Not who that individual really is.

Re:Wha? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052590)

Information wants to be free.
...says the person posting as an Anonymous Coward.

I was talking about other people's information, not mine. Obviously.

Re:Wha? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23053576)

If I have a comment, you should judge the comment and not the character behind the comment. A comment posted by an unidentifiable anonymous poster will guarantee that the comment will be judge solely on the merit of the content and not by the celebrity status of the poster.

Re:Wha? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23053806)

Never been a fan of imageboards, I see.

Re:Wha? (3, Funny)

alx5000 (896642) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053388)

Did you try baking them a cake [xkcd.com] shaped like the Internet?

Re:Wha? (5, Informative)

chasingsol (743706) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052406)

Demonoid has always been a public tracker, but other features of the site require an account (including uploading). You don't need to be a member to use it, just a member to access other stuff.

Re:Wha? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23053050)

Chasingsol is chasing us all!

Guess who this is...

Re:Wha? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052414)

Seriously. I went to the site and saw the notice and thought "then who gives a flying fuck?" They might as well not exist for all the use they are to me.

Re:Wha? (4, Informative)

Madalienmonk (1255494) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052428)

It's private to stop Joe-hit-and-run from just leeching without sharing, people have to share to a ratio on Demonoid (usually 1:1).

canada back online (1)

acidrain (35064) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052562)

I don't know about this 1:1 ratio thing of which you speak, but I am sure glad to be able to resume leaching from Canada. They blocked the country due to legal threats quite a while ago, and now seem to have forgotten to do so again. Will see where that goes.

If you ask me it is the protocols job to get leaches to contribute not the sites. After all the site serves ads regardless...

All file shareres are leechers (0, Flamebait)

cliffski (65094) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052754)

I don't understand this hatred of 'leeching' amongst file sharers. You know that you are ALL leeching right? You are leeching off the honest people who actually BUY the music, BUY the movies and BUY the software. without them, the stuff would not get made, and people like yourselves with overinflated senses of entitlement wouldn't be able to LEECH it off the honest majority.
next time you complain about people leeching, take a good honest look at what you are doing.

No surprise to me to see slashdot triumphing the return of a warez site, the whole place is just a meeting point for pirates these days, ironic to see a copyright notice for sourceforge at the bottom of each page.

Go on, mod me down for pointing out the truth...

Re:All file shareres are leechers (1)

DavidShor (928926) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052796)

I'd like to know what your response is to research that indicates that copyright periods are currently far too long to maximise content production(In a nutshell, artists can coast off of their previous work).

Re:All file shareres are leechers (3, Insightful)

cp.tar (871488) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052862)

I don't understand this hatred of 'leeching' amongst file sharers. You know that you are ALL leeching right? You are leeching off the honest people who actually BUY the music, BUY the movies and BUY the software.

... and who then post the music, the movies, the shows and the software freely on torrents.

No longer quite so honest in your book, huh?

Anyway, ethics is relative and subject to change, and so are business models.
As far as I'm concerned, it is better to let everyone adapt to new conditions in the world than to try to reverse them.
Besides, it has been proved that torrents don't hurt music sales in the least; quite the contrary, in fact. Software companies have also profited from the increased mindshare (private users may pirate the software, but when they use it for business, they buy the software they are familiar with instead of something else).

Aside from all that, the ratio requirement is there so that information would continue to flow — it only happens when everyone gives at least as much as they get. And that's why it is called sharing.

A 100% requirement is not achievable (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053480)

Aside from all that, the ratio requirement is there so that information would continue to flow â" it only happens when everyone gives at least as much as they get.
Technically, that's not possible. The total amount of uploads across all users equals the total amount of downloads, making it impossible for everyone to have a share ratio greater than or equal to 100%. But with "at least as much" replaced by "almost as much", I agree with your assessment.

Re:All file shareres are leechers (3, Informative)

mpe (36238) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052892)

I don't understand this hatred of 'leeching' amongst file sharers. You know that you are ALL leeching right? You are leeching off the honest people who actually BUY the music, BUY the movies and BUY the software.

Quite a lot of the content here is likely to originate from people who bought the whatever and uploaded it. Another major source is where the content was broadcast to a significent chunk of the planet.

without them, the stuff would not get made,

This is the "every pirated copy is a lost sale" theory. Which has been completly debunked. Quite simply the vast majority of the people involved are not "potential customers" in the first place.It's also very possible that the "pirate" version, which tends to be "Available worldwide and DRM free", will be the only version available to people. Possibly for months/years even forever.

Re:All file shareres are leechers (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23053152)

don't make me laugh. are you suggesting that all the people who download spiderman 3 and cloverfield in the USA 'could not get it legally'. Defend file sharing all you want, but pretending that its just people who cannot get the stuff legally is pure bullshit and you know it.

Re:All file shareres are leechers (2, Insightful)

rfunches (800928) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053556)

What about CDs that are no longer in print (and impossible to find second-hand), or hard-to-find DVDs that are encoded for a region other than yours?

Re:All file shareres are leechers (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23053702)

[In reply to: "without people buying stuff, it would not get made"] This is the "every pirated copy is a lost sale" theory.

No, it's not. Ever heard of TV shows getting cancelled because of bad ratings, movie sequels being made because the original sold well, artists being dumped by a label when their latest album bombs, et cetera? It's not hard to see that the creation of media is influenced by people going out and paying for it. That also means that people going out and buying stuff contribute significantly to the diversity of media available for downloading. If you only download and never buy, you are profiting from the availability of materials that is paid for by paying customers.

That has nothing to do with "every pirated copy is a lost sale" (or "without IP no art would be produced"). It's just pointing out that when person A buys albums and person B downloads them, A contributes more to the production of future albums than B. How you can miss the point so completely and still be modded "4: insightful" is beyond me.

Re:All file shareres are leechers (2, Funny)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053230)

"? You are leeching off the honest people who actually BUY the music, BUY the movies and BUY the software. without them, the stuff would not get made,"

so your saying if i download enough RIAA label music and hollywood movies i'll send the fuckers broke and they will have to stop making their dribble? excellent!

From whom am I leeching? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053470)

You are leeching off the honest people who actually BUY the music, BUY the movies and BUY the software. without them, the stuff would not get made
I resent that insinuation. If I download a work that was first published 50 years ago, which has since fallen out of print, and whose author has since died, from whom am I leeching and why? If I download free software (such as GNU/Linux distributions) and free text (such as Project Gutenberg collections), from whom am I leeching and why?

Re:From whom am I leeching? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23053694)

surely in that case you can use a legal, hosted in your local country, not run by a bunch of shady criminals website?
Don't try and kid yourself that demonoid exists to share LINUX distributions. you just look like an idiot.

Re:From whom am I leeching? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053760)

surely in that case [free content] you can use a legal, hosted in your local country, not run by a bunch of shady criminals website?

My country [wikipedia.org] is allegedly run by a bunch of shady criminals.

But seriously, how does taking a work out of print "promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts"? What do you recommend for orphan works?

Re:Wha? (1)

Ungulate (146381) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053104)

Except Demonoid wasn't really private. Torrents less than two weeks old could be downloaded by anybody, but ones older than that required registration. If you got that torrent from a torrent search engine, you never had to register at all, as the tracker itself wasn't private. Third party indexing of their older torrents was kind of spotty, so it helped to have an account, but it was never a real deterrent to leeching.

Re:Wha? (1)

krod77 (953703) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052472)

If someone needs an invite, email me, I have a few.

Re:Wha? (1)

DavidShor (928926) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052528)

Yeah, I second that. I have some too.

Re:Wha? (1)

1arkhaine (671283) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052848)

If you're willing to send me one... damianke@gmail.com

I used to be involved with oink, but sadly all that's fallen away now. I haven't found a good torrent site since then, unfortunately.

Re:Wha? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052884)

Yeah, I second that. I have some too.
DavidShor, i emailed you at your the beach email account.

Re:Wha? (1)

DavidShor (928926) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052932)

That was fast, I'm clean out.

But I challenge some fellow demonoid members to share as well.

Re:Wha? (1)

madape (89730) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052544)

I could use one of those, Jared, though your e-mail address isn't publicly available (maybe b/c you've been hit up too much already? ;-)

Re:Wha? (4, Informative)

Andtalath (1074376) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052614)

The point is the avoid leeches, not to avoid legal shitbags.

Re:Wha? (1)

PaintyThePirate (682047) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052774)

Demonoid is one of the few private trackers that doesn't ban on bad ratio. You can leech all you want, and the only thing that will suffer is your pirate karma.

Re:Wha? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052632)

The point is......

Some of US are in.....
and some of YOU are not.....

BWAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But seriously, the point is actually to keep ratios and user habits consistent with the standards of the site. When you are a member, you are responsible to keep your seed ratio at a certain level, as well as your behavior and actions. When you invite someone, you are also responsible for THEIR behavior, actions, and ratios. The thought process is that you will not give an invite to just anyone, if you know that their behavior can potentially get you suspended or expelled.

Re:Wha? (1)

jesuscyborg (903402) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052652)

Okay, seriously, what's the point of invite-only registration?
It's pure marketing. If you have to wait 15 days for your friend to give to an invite to this "exclusive" tracker, chances are you're going to think it's this great thing and you'll talk about it and use it more than you otherwise would.

Re:Wha? (2, Insightful)

AiToyonsNostril (1082283) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053136)

As true as the theory of cognitive dissonance might be in general, Demonoid truly has a lot of rare stuff you don't see on the open sites and, usually, greater percentage of reliable uploads as well. Also, the type of person who'd wait two weeks for registration and remember to sign in within a certain time window tends to be different from the hit-and-run people who congregate around the open sites.

Re:Wha? (5, Interesting)

p0tat03 (985078) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052684)

I'm not sure about Demonoid, but my preferred tracker is also invite-only for a good reason: ratios. The tracker stays fast because people are forced to give back. The thing works on a credit system - downloading costs credits, uploading gains credits. To avoid people signing up over and over for free credits, EVERY single account that is opened needs to have credits donated from an existing member, such that credits never magically materialize out of nowhere. It's a good system - and the only tracker I've ever been on where I can always max out my pipe at all times.

Re:Wha? (1)

DavidShor (928926) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052804)

They don't allow for the creation of ANY new money?

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=684425 [ssrn.com]

That might pose a problem. There is a reason that the fed expands money supply.

Re:Wha? (1)

p0tat03 (985078) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052838)

There's a bonus credit gain applied to seeders, I'm not intimately familiar with the precise inner workings of their system, but this can provide the growth in "money" that they need.

Re:Wha? (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053338)

There is a reason that the fed expands money supply.
Yes, to keep the bottom from dropping out until November, in the hope that they can get McCain elected.

I thought everybody knew that.

Re:Wha? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23053442)

Total rubbish.

MY preferred tracker (http://tasvideos.org) doesn't use things like ratios at all, and - for that matter - doesn't even track who grabs what; there's no user accounts (other than for rating stuff), and anyone can download anything.

And you know what? It works GREAT! I'm seeding over a hundred videos for that site myself that I downloaded, and so do dozens of others each. For all of these videos, I have ratios in the tens, if not the hundreds (my record is 648.047, although you'd really have to add another 1250 or so on top of that, since I was already seeding it with a different client in the past. And yeah, this is a ratio of literally almost two thousand - not percent).

What's more, all the videos on the site are still available. Everyone can get them, and unless they're very old, you'll get great download speeds. There's no need to give back, but many people do, anyway, precisely BECAUSE there is no requirement to do so.

Your elitism is really just hurting you. Compare the Internet today with BBSes of the past, for instance, and ask yourself where it's easier to find software, pictures, or whatever else. BBSes, which had ratios to enforce trading and sharing, or the Internet, where all you get when uploading your pictures on Flickr or putting your FOSS project on SourceForge is a warm fuzzy feeling?

Just think about it for a moment.

Sweet (1)

Saracenus (1144705) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052392)

Good to have them back. Looking forward to using them again.

Re:Sweet (1)

Seumas (6865) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053490)

Agreed. I can't wait to log back in so I can download all those legal creative commons files and open source linux distro ISOs again!

Amen (1)

RecursiveLoop (1264802) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052404)

Its Back!! Can I get an Amen from the Congregation?!!!

Private tracker. (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052408)

One of the things that made/makes Demonoid so great is that the unwashed masses aren't permitted to ransack and abuse the system in the same way that they are at TPB.

You need invite only registration if you really want to be able to enforce ratios. Otherwise people just create disposable accounts, leech to the cap and never seed.

On Demonoid, people seed or their ratio goes to shit and they can't DL.

Anyway, I'm glad it's back. TPB is great, but it doesn't always cover all the bases for me.

Re:Private tracker. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052616)

I've gotten tons of Demonoid torrents through places like isohunt. Never needed an invite or registration for anything. The only thing that keeps my ratio decent is my own free will.

If there's something on a site I want but need a registration for, I will spend a comparatively ludicrous amount of time and effort on getting around the forced registration on principle alone. Unless you can enforce these things absolutely perfectly, you can't force people to not be dicks. Look at DRM.

Re:Private tracker. (0, Flamebait)

Stellian (673475) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052888)

[quote]If there's something on a site I want but need a registration for, I will spend a comparatively ludicrous amount of time and effort on getting around the forced registration on principle alone.[/quote] ... while the rest of us just register, maintain a good ratio, and get on with our lives. There's no "principle" behind letting every redneck plunder the bandwidth and effort of the community, while giving nothing back. The bottom line is simple: private trackers have much higher speeds because of the fourced seeding.
If you can max out your puny download bandwidth on public trackers, while at the same time enjoy wasting your time in bypassing compulsory registration, then kudos to you. The registration system does not need to be airtight, just hard enough to generate for most people the above described effect: it should make sense to register, and be part of the community, because you get something back for it, and on the other hand, hacking the system should be hard enough not to warrant the rewards.

Re:Private tracker. (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053506)

If there's something on a site I want but need a registration for, I will spend a comparatively ludicrous amount of time and effort on getting around the forced registration on principle alone.
... while the rest of us just register
That's a bit difficult if nobody on your IM buddy list has heard of the place, let alone has invite codes to give.

Re:Private tracker. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23053318)

- demonoid does not punish bad ratio.

- demonoid does not track ratio properly for people with dynamic IP anyway.

- demonoid is not a private tracker. Being a member has some perks but is not required to use the tarcker.

As a result, torrents on demonoid where usually quite lively, wereas most private trackers have lots of torrents with one or two seeders, but noone downloading for fear of not being able to seed to anyone back later and ruining their ratio.
About the only torrents that are alive under these circumstances are ones you absolutely cannot find on a public server.

Re:Private tracker. (1)

suss (158993) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053366)

Yeah... except if it weren't for the fact that demonoid has no safeguards/checks against cheating and even if the cheating is blindingly obvious, cheaters aren't punished...

Nice ratio of 1.5 million there, buddy!

Re:Private tracker. (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053520)

Hypocrites.

"Information must be free!" ( but only to my friends that in effect pay for it by being required to do something in return )

no catch? (3, Interesting)

B5_geek (638928) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052418)

After all the fuss & muss (with no court-based legal rulings) how are they back up?

They did not goto court (the innocent admins would have shouted it from the roof-tops), they must have had an out-of-court settlement. Considering all the old account are still available, this stinks of a setup.

I am from Canada, and as we are aware there are several laws that 'allow' me to d'load. There is even one that I can think of that allows me to upload. BUT that said, I will not log back into demonoid, I will not create a new account.

I will continue to use the private trackers that I am currently on, and most importantly continue to use Piratebay to search.

Re:no catch? (5, Informative)

chasingsol (743706) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052434)

The new server is located in Ukraine, so unless there's a very elaborate international conspiracy here, I doubt it's a setup. The original admin isn't from Canada or the USA (or Europe for that matter). The original servers were located in Amsterdam, then they moved to Canada before being shut down, and now they've moved again. Not at all unusual for torrent sites, even huge ones like The Pirate Bay.

Re:no catch? (2, Insightful)

B5_geek (638928) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052452)

Don't confuse my tone of pessimism, I _hope_ they are back.

Just wary, and paranoid.

hehe paranoid of demoniod.

Re:no catch? (2, Informative)

Ironix (165274) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052784)

I logged into the newly functional demonoid using my old account and it works fine. Now unless they gave away all their users old account data, I doubt it is some kind of honey-pot or such thing.

yup, and don't forget your exact info is in tact (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052840)

which would be damn hard for imposters to replicate without siezing the servers and re-setting them up, plus having access to the domain name and DNS etc..

on a side note you people who are crying about not being able to sign up without an invite need to just stop bitching. the bad thing about TPB/isohunt is everyone leeches and just leaves. There are a million torrents that no one is seeding at TPB. demonoid needs to preserve its original userbase before it lets you dirty leeches in. free information is worthless if that information cannot be distributed beyond people who hit and run on torrents.

be patient and polite perhaps someone will invite you

Re:yup, and don't forget your exact info is in tac (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23053246)

"which would be damn hard for imposters to replicate without siezing the servers and re-setting them up, plus having access to the domain name and DNS etc.."

but trivial for law enforcement and this type of thing happens all of the time where big sites go down and mysteriously reappear but with a puppet master pulling the strings and logging everything.

I'd avoid demonoid and any such new resurging site like the plauge

Re:no catch? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052790)

I won't make any claims about Demonoid, but it's fairly common for questionable sites to suddenly go down, and following a down time period of any length, they go back up just like nothing happened but now with new government monitoring overlords. I would advise caution.

Re:no catch? (1, Informative)

pipatron (966506) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053618)

I won't make any claims about Demonoid, but it's fairly common for questionable sites to suddenly go down, and following a down time period of any length, they go back up just like nothing happened but now with new government monitoring overlords.

Citation needed, or STFU with the FUD, RIAA-troll.

Suprnova never came back... (1)

istewart (463887) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052484)

...but Demonoid did. I think this indicates a subtle but meaningful change.

Re:Suprnova never came back... (1)

DigitalisAkujin (846133) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052496)

Actually Suprnova did come back but under new management.

Re:Suprnova never came back... (1)

chasingsol (743706) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052512)

With SuprNova, the domain was given to the stewardship of The Pirate Bay, but there's no other relationship between the original and SuprNova 2.0. The significant difference is that in the case of Demonoid, the admin has handed off the site and database to existing staff. It's "under new management", but it's the same site that was running before it was shut down.

Re:Suprnova never came back... (1)

istewart (463887) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052644)

I should've been more precise. Suprnova was never directly re-instantiated, it basically became a brand because people were already familiar with the name.

Re:Suprnova never came back... (3, Informative)

soilheart (1081051) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052546)

A "subtle" difference is also that demonoid never was taken down because of the pressure on the admin (as I've understood it) but because the host didn't want demonoid on their servers anymore. Since then deimos have said that it probably would come back as he never had a problem with having the site.

Re:Suprnova never came back... (1)

slyn (1111419) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052622)

...but Demonoid did. I think this indicates a subtle but meaningful change.
Though it's possible that the idea behind pirating has evolved from a "free stuff is sweet" idea when it first started to a "free stuff is sweet + stick it to the RIAA/MPAA/similar entities" idea, I think that would probably be looking over a number of much less ideological and much more IRL/priorities/personal reasons not to restart it consequential to whoever was administrating the site.

That being said, on a completely OT side point, though I (mostly) dislike the new skin of /. (I have the beta skin or whatever it's called enabled), this is my first time posting since the change, and the inline posting is pretty sweet. So if anyone large and in charge reads this, go back to the old look but keep the inline posting feature.

ps. And the same page preview for that matter.

Re:Suprnova never came back... (0, Offtopic)

Gabest (852807) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052766)

There is no way back once a star turns into a supernova.

Need Invite (0, Redundant)

noticedneutrino (1272150) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052580)

Can I have an invite please?

Re:Need Invite (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052602)

no

Need invite (0, Offtopic)

noticedneutrino (1272150) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052598)

I need an invite please guys! Sorry for posting twice I had to change my settings for email to be seen thanks :)

Re:Need invite (0, Offtopic)

nekozid (1100169) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052692)

No.

Re:Need invite (0, Offtopic)

one_red_eye (962010) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052780)

Invites for sale! $25USD

One up, one down.. (2, Informative)

joshuaes (1035088) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052686)

Recent news about IndieTorrents.com, an invite-only tracker that is pretty extensive as far as range and number of independent music etc, is shutting down. Planning a comeback, however.

# 2008-04-12 - I have some sad news to announce to all of you. IT will be closing down on Sunday. We hope to rise from the ashes like a fiery phoenix some day in the future but for the time being our run of free hosting has come to an end. It has been a great ride and I have had so much fun doing this. I will miss this and think back with fond memories. Drink a tall glass of cold beer and say goodbye to your good friend drewcifer. -http://www.indietorrents.com/

But they've recently got $2000 in donations, so I think their return should definitely be expected.

I find waffles.fm & what.cd are other good invite-only sites for independent music torrents. I believe waffles is where most OiNK users went. Those invites are hard to come by, however. At least in my searches; which are still fruitless.

Re:One up, one down.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23053342)

I haven't tried waffles.fm, but what.cd is trivial to bullshit your way through an irc interview into getting an invite, I wouldn't be surprised if what.cd is a honeypot project.

simple:

go to irc.what.cd /join an #invite named channel
type !queue
wait /join the channel you're invited to
bullshit them with info you can easily learn on the net about transcoding and lossless formats
tell them you only encode with EAC and they'll ejaculate on you for sure

you're in

it's not hard, I bet it's a honeypot

this is nice (1)

Elsapotk421 (1097205) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052698)

I usually buy most of my music. sometimes I just don't have the cash so I would turn to the pirate bay or demonoid a while back. I'm kind of glad this is back up because I used to get quality torrents and seeds from them.

Great News (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#23052740)

Doesn't get much better than this does it folks? When I logged on and saw it was back I almost cried while I screamed for joy!

Demonoid (0)

spandex_panda (1168381) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052758)

I used to use demonoid a lot, now I use almost exclusively tpb. Demonoid was great, and although its a bit empty now, it will soon be great again! If anyone wants membership contact me at the not very hard riddle of an gmail address "chronograph(a calendar application)(at)gmail(dot)com" where (a calendar application)=um... you get the picture.

The real benefit of Demonoid... (1)

SacredByte (1122105) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052788)

Is twofold: Firstly, they have a great search engine (read: it is very easy to find what you are looking for), and Secondly, torrents are generally well seeded.

TORRENTS R DEAD (3, Funny)

noticedneutrino (1272150) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052800)

LONG LIVE RAPIDSHARE!

I need an invite please. please. (1)

kms_one (1272174) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052902)

I have been trying for months to get an invite. I need an account for older torrents on the site. Non-members can only access new torrents. Thanks.

Re:I need an invite please. please. (1)

spandex_panda (1168381) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053408)

Here you go. http://www.demonoid.com/register.php?with_invite=1 [demonoid.com]

asgadcwkvja7oupuznr3lywmul2j6ihbsshsgsl7mlzs

Some more codes for other lucky punters:

y6ozfyv7y8xuyu6na0sfswymtun9la9zlue2i4nt6jtj

65iiu46v2zmyuwabe5o0yap1cfk8q5alfu9

tphnv6gixnp6rbdmrmsj5k2kp1h4n7r6j

dnkoc5czcxv15luw0k2wxftn1ent7geyalxv20dz8o

Oblig. Ackbar quote (4, Funny)

Eudial (590661) | more than 6 years ago | (#23052972)

It's a trap!

  ~ Admiral Ackbar.

Fuck Yeah!!! (0, Troll)

bacchus612 (168559) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053028)

I'll say it again:
FUCK YEAH!

Wow (2, Insightful)

Cinnaman (954100) | more than 6 years ago | (#23053690)

Demonoid had the best community out of the "public" torrent sites and made for a richer filesharing experience, I've been lamenting it's loss ever since.
The Pirate Bay is okay but didn't have the range of Demonoid. I used to have a Torrentleech account with 20gb worth of positive ratio but was a victim of their new "regular login" rule, so it's great to have a comparable site back from the dead.
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