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Rewriting 'Blame Canada'

emmett posted more than 14 years ago | from the blame-America dept.

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Snaller writes, "Quoting USAToday, The Internet Movie Database reports that Trey Parker will rewrite the lyrics for "Blame Canada," the Oscar-nominated song from the South Park movie. The co-producer of the telecast is quoted as saying that Parker 'will come up with some funny solutions to his own problems.'" Leave it alone, I say. The original got the Oscar nod, not the one they'll perform at the awards.

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I wonder if this was his idea... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251428)

... or whether he was "asked" to do it by Comedy Central or the AMFAS.

Re:Oops (1)

Megane (129182) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251429)

That's IE3's fault. It doesn't allow the web site to supply HTML tags in text editing fields. I had the same problem under NT4 until I upgraded to IE5.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled message thread.

Re:We all know what will happen.. (1)

Crispin Glover (123499) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251430)

I agree. Let's not forget the April Fool's joke when they aired the Terrance and Phillip show instead of revealing who Cartman's Mom was. If they can do that to their fans just imagine what they'll do to the establishment. That epsiode was pure genius.

"What are you doing?"
"I'm wishing cancer on you."
"Don't wish cancer on me."

I'm sure he'd kick an ass or two (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251441)


That's what Brian Boitano'd do!

Re:Uhm..who's going to sing? (3)

Spud Zeppelin (13403) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251442)

Perhaps they should get Celine Dion to sing the Sheila part... she did say she was retiring to "be a mom" right? After all, Sheila's younger son, Ike, is Canadian... so why not a Canadian Sheila singing "Blame Canada" during the Oscars? Especially since Celine Dion played such a significant role in the Terence & Philip TV-Movie "Not Without My Anus".



This is my opinion and my opinion only. Incidentally, IANAL.

Re:What a crock (1)

Zombie_Magick (71703) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251443)

I know what you mean. Local papers in Canada tried to stir up a fuss about the song being nominated by printing letters from people who were offended and thought the song was racist. In the past we weren't so touchy, heck the song is really making fun of the Americans anyway, yet some people can't let it go.

I think the best person to sing the song would be Anne Murray just because it would be terribly ironic.

Matt & Trey: If you're reading this, don't mess with the song we love it the way it is.

Hey, this is SP we're talking about (1)

xant (99438) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251444)

He's "aware" of the ABC censors? Who's to say he's going to be self-censoring it, then? The history and style of the show say that he's going to be making it MORE offensive, not less, given his awareness of the censors. :-)

Message Not Received (1)

mr.nobody (113509) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251445)

I realize that television standards are more strict than film, but it just seems wrong to rewrite the song. There may be swearing and profanity, but that's the point. SP:BLU worked because it used the language to expose the hypocrisy about the MPAA film guidelines. Take that away, and the message is lost.

Re:What a crock (1)

raibeart (78133) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251446)

I always shudder when I hear people that people who put down another country are racist. Nationalistic or jingoistic maybe. But it can't be racist. Last I heard Canadian wasn't a race.

News for Nerds? (0)

geekoid (135745) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251447)

Why is the article here? It's a music story.
Is slashdot going to post every story there is which may be link to censorship? I agree that censorship regulations reguarding the internet or software development belong here, but I don't think this one does.
South park is not nerd stuff

Re:...and I quote: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251448)

First, I DO have an account. Second, I posted anonymously because I don't feel like getting flamed into oblivion. Third, Moderate this however you see fit. Now that that's out of the way, allow me to contribute the following to the original poster's comment:

Fuck off.

If you don't like Slashdot, Find another forum where you can bitch. Nobody is forcing these stories in your mouth. You are choosing to read them, AND coincidently you are choosing to COMPLAIN about them.

I don't recall this site's slogan as being "News for MartyJG. Stuff that matters TO HIM." Screw you. This site IS news for nerds. And if the stories don't cater to you, then maybe you're not part of the target audience.

In that case, maybe you should start reading your news somewhere else.

Voluntary Cencorship (2)

chandler (98984) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251451)

They're going to censor themselves? How stupid - perhaps they should come up with an 'acceptable' version and sabatoge the event to play the uncencored version!

"The romance of Silicon Valley was about money - excuse me, about changing the world, one million dollars at a time."

International incident (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251453)

Me thinks an international incident involving a hockey stick and a baceball bat is in the making.

Re:Voluntary Censorship (1)

Sendy (31825) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251454)

Well, knowing how they bypassed censorship for the movie in the first place, they'll come up with a pretty nifty version, I guess.

Sendy

Re:International incident (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251456)

Leave Tanya Harding out of this, eh.

Uhm..who's going to sing? (3)

Mark F. Komarinski (97174) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251458)

As you'll remember, Mary Kay Bergman (who does the voice) died a few months ago. Who will be singing the song? It won't sound the same if she's not singing it.

Re:Voluntary Cencorship (1)

cave76 (25851) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251464)

Would they be able to? I don't think they have the original performers perform the song. They usually have the host or some else sing the nominated songs, don't they?

Mike

Re:What a crock (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251465)

good point. unfortunately, the majority of people here in slashdom are fucking idiots. they don't know their elbows from their assholes.

Better Trey rewrite parts of it than... (3)

lar3ry (10905) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251466)

say, have the song performed as an instrumental during the Oscar show...

ABC is owned by Disney, who is known for changing movie lyrics. _Arabian Nights_ in Aladdin comes immediately to mind...

--

Here's the start of a re-write... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251468)

Blame Microsoft! Blame Microsoft! With all their dirty little spies and PR flacks so full of lies. Blame Microsoft! Blame Microsoft! (Windows ain't a real OS anyway)

Re:International incident (1)

technos (73414) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251469)

collapsing police baton.
and she wasn't the one actually doing the kerrigan-whacking; it was her damn moron bodyguard, jeff galoolie [sp]

sorry, coffee in the keys doesn't do wonders for a keyboards functionality.. did you hear that, tech support! new keyboard, pronto..

Re:Voluntary Cencorship (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251470)

censoring themselve=directors cut! censoring themsleves=special edition which of course means rereleases and more $$ lol im canadian and i love their blame canada yah blame us damn our beer our comedians, the hockey hullabaloo, and that b!tch on mary too

Re:Voluntary Cencorship? Sure, we can dig it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251471)

Well, he *is* a complicated man, and no one understands him but his woman.

Re:Self-censorship or Comedy Opportunity? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251472)

>Another example: The second Austin Powers movie had the montages where they cut off the last word of a sentence where it would have been profanity, then cut to the start of another sentence with the same or a similar sounding word. Again, it's not the profanity that's funny, it's how it's covered up.

Many moons ago, when dinosaurs roamed the Earth, Martin Mull performed a song on the Tonight Show (this was pre-Leno, so the show didn't suck). Since it was a holiday, the censors had the day off. Therefore, Mull had to self-censor and decided to merely hum the offensive parts.

The song was 90% humming with occassional lyrics thrown in.

Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm
You were sixteen
Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm
Shaving cream
Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm
Leather skirts
Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm
Rubber shirts

Kind of a musical Rorschach test.

Self-Censorship or Reversioning? (1)

MythoBeast (54294) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251473)

As a rule, I usually agree with self-censorship.

Why? Because obscenity is an art form. Just like any other art form, it is often abused or done poorly, and often has to be adjusted for a target audience.

Those who went to the Southpark movie were expecting a great deal of obscenity, and would have been disappointed if they hadn't gotten it from every angle. The point of "Blame Canada" isn't to pummel the audience with obscenity - that was "Uncle Fucker"s job - it is to make fun of the general public's response to many problems. I trust Trey's ability to do that in a way that the Oscar audience can actually apreciate.

Sometimes I hate to admit it, but occasionally I prefer the censored version of some things. My favorite example of this is Insane Clown Posse's "Another Love Song". When God handed out tact, these guys went back for a second helping of obnoxious.

- Just because you can doesn't mean you should
- Just because you can't doesn't mean you shouldn't

Re:Uncle Fukkah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251484)

To you, it may not be offensive, but to a lot of Canadians, it is...I am one of them, but I'm not one to take offense easily. Now, if the song crapped on the good 'ol U.S. of A., you'd have Trey's head wouldn't you? Maybe not...but it's a matter of patriotic perspective. Unkkle Fucka seems tame by comparison.

death, doom, destruction (2)

Capt Dan (70955) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251485)

on a somewhat related note, if Trey wins an oscar for blame canada, is that a sign of the Apocalypse?

Don't get me wrong, I love the south park movie. Orgasmo is hilarious as well. Maybe it would jsut be a good dose of reality for the academy? I think i've seen (or heard the names of) two of the movies that were nominated for best picture.

"You want to kiss the sky? Better learn how to kneel." - U2

Re:WWBBD? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251487)

YeaH!!! Kurt Browning would kick Brian Boitano's ass all over the rink! His quadruple loops are the best!

Re:I'm offended ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251489)

Or this hour has 22 minutes, who make fun of Americans SO DAMN WELL. Not that it is really all that hard, the USA isn't a real country anyway.

Re:Thank You (NOT) (1)

raflach (143295) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251490)

While I totally respect your right to take offence, I also must tell you that you completely missed the entire point of the song. You apparently are unable to recognize sarcasm when you see it, and as such should not be watching a show as full as sarcasm as South Park (And I'm betting you don't and actually pulled this comment out of your a$$ without even examining the lyrics.) The last line redeems the entire song as far as your objections go, showing that the song is actually making fun of people who will blame anything or anyone rather than take responsability for what is in truth at least partially their own fault. The fact of the matter is that they could have substituted any country name for Canada, and the song would have been almost as effective. It wouldn't have been quite as effective because of course Canada is to blame for everything. (Author's Note: for those too ignorant to pick up on it, that was sarcasm and humor, not an actual attack against the country named) I kinda hope they just change the country name in the revised song, and make it Blame America. THAT would be funny, especially when we get to see the response from all the Americans and Canadians who didn't get it in the first place.

Re:I'm offended ... (1)

Wawrow (148453) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251491)

I'm a Canadian and I'm proud to be animated with a flip-top head. Air Farce? My mom likes the Air Farce. Try 'This Hour has 22 Minutes'

um. no (2)

delmoi (26744) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251492)

The are from colorado. In fact, they took there ACT's or something in the Colombine highschool Cafiteria. There's a real city called south park in Colorado as well.

[ c h a d o k e r e ] [dhs.org]

News for nerds (0)

geekoid (135745) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251493)

All right, Listen up you knee jerking, limp wristed, puke eating morons!
My post was out of curiosty. Is SP nerd related? Maybe Im just old school. There are alot of stuff that gets posted that I have No interested in, but when something come up that I don't think is News for nerds, I post something about it. Mostly to find out if it is considered part of the geek culture now, like MP quotes, os ST quotes. Those have been part of geek/nerd culture for many,many years. Now I'm just wondering if SP is geek stuff? Does making a piece of art work become considered geek just because it has profanity in it? If so, that pretty sad. The new "geek culture" is about image and no longer about knowledge.
And I wonder if the guy who posted that If I don't like something, I shouldn't make a post about understands the word "Ironic"?Jeez people, It was an honest post. I was Honestly wondering if SP is geek. I have no problem with SP, in fact I like it.
Oh and on a side note, there are thing that should be censored. I mean you think it's ok if I publish your eMail address to anybody who wants it? or your home address? how about I put a picture of you in your local newspaper and have it labled "Sex Offender"? How about your medical history?Hey you won't let me read info. om your hardrive, your censoring me!

Re:Uncle Fukkah (1)

AlphaHelix (117420) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251504)

> Now, if the song crapped on the good 'ol U.S. of A., you'd have Trey's head wouldn't you? Er, no. That's really stupid. There are plenty of songs, articles, editorials, books, poems, paintings, comic strips, movies, plays, and performance art productions that "crap on the good 'ol U.S. of A.," and I don't find them offensive in the least. Furthermore, "Blame Canada" isn't crapping on Canada, it's "crapping" on American racisim, xenophobia, and violence.
* mild mannered physics grad student by day *

Re:On behalf of Slashdot... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251505)

On behalf of Slashdot, I would like to apologize for the previous apology.

When he said : "If the article doesn't interest you, don't read it", what he really meant was : "Sod off you little bitchmonkey"

And where he stated : "News for Nerds", what he really meant was : "Bite my bunhole you rancid carp buggerer"

Although we must stress that the phrase "Stuff that matters" would be delicatly phrased as "take the grits out of your pants, you kangaroo-abusing flamingo felcher"

(and a really big :) on this one!!)

Re:WWBBD? (1)

JohnnyCannuk (19863) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251506)

Yes , I'll have to agree with that one. I play hockey with Kurt Browning(Same league, different team - he's Red I'm Brown) and he has a hell of a wrist shot, too.

Not to mention he can literally scat circles around most of us.

#19

PS Go Brown! (Late Night Hockey!)

Re:...and I quote: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251507)

I guess that explains your complaint

Re:I'm offended ... (1)

ricklow (124377) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251508)

Air Farce lost its edge a few years ago. It now borders on irrelevant. Here's another vote for 22 Minutes (http://www.salter.com/22minutes/22hour.htm).

elholes and assbows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251510)

The confusion comes from deep (cubit magnitude) fisting.

or like Sandler's Ode to My Car (2)

ToastyKen (10169) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251511)

Adam Sandler had this great song called "Ode to My Car" I heard one day on the radio, that roughly went, "Ode to my car, my piece of *honk* car," etc.
By the end of the song, there was as much honking of various types of horns as there was singing. It was great!

I found the CD for it, and it was uncensored! That completely ruined the song. :(

Anyway, I hope Parker & company use this as an opportunity to censor the song while making fun of the censorship.

I still can't believe that the biggest dig at the MPAA is actually going to have a song aired at the Oscars. That just rules. :)

Re:News for Nerds? (1)

bnewman2000 (142666) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251512)

You forget that South Park was a web trend before even the television show. How many times was the Santa vs. Jesus short forwarded to you? Hell, I don't even have cable or a TV, all of my early South Park fascination was from watching episodes on the net. It's part of nerd culture, so a South Park article is just as legitimate as a Star Wars or Monty Python article. It is a scary trend though. One of the first web trends to blow into the mainstream in a big way. Does this mean that in a couple of monthes we'll hear that the whazzup movie is coming soon?

Priority check: censorship. (4)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251513)

You know, standards about dirty words on broadcast TV really aren't were I'm willing to make a big stand on censorship. The "South Park" message can and will get out, and Stone and Parker are already very rich. There's nothing to prevent a "director's cut" of South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut being released - in fact, it was their desire to make more money that motivated the initial kowtow to the MPAA. I agree with their general messages: that it is hypocritical to wring hands over sex and bathroom humor while sanctioning large-volume depictions of violence, and that the patronizing "someone think of the children!" attitudes of middle America are maudlin and an evasion of responsiblity. As far as modification as compromise goes, that happened already with the original movie!

However, there's a much more serious ongoing form of censorship: corporate censorship by litigation. The McLibel suit is the most classic example of this, but the attacks on fan sites, parodies (like Negativland - U2 case), artists sites (like Etoy), and the vicious attacks against DeCSS are a much bigger threat to speech. Since words, images, and ideas are treated as property, and corporate reputation is more important than critical investigation, free speech only exists for those with massive legal budgets or absolutely nothing to lose.

I know that I'm preaching to the choir here, but I'd like to know if it would be possible to see federal legislation that penalized SLAPP cases(with extreme prejudice!) and even provided a legal warchest (funded by those who were found guilty of SLAPPs) for those who are accused; I'd like to see it in the context of legislation which removed the 'defend it or lose it' trademark restriction, while affirming the 'first come/first serve' sector-agnostic approach to domain names, and expanding 'fair use' of copyrighted images and texts to more increase protection for fan sites and parodies.

The Far Side (2)

RatBastard (949) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251514)

That reminds me of a story I read in one of the big Far Side compliations by Gary Larson.

One day he got an angy call from The Jane Goodall (sp?) Foundation about a Far Side cartoon showing a female gorilla grooming a male gorilla and she's found a blond hair on his back and she's saying something like:
"Another blond hair? You've been hanging around that Jane Goodal tramp, haven't you?"

Mr. Larson called Jane Goodal to apologize for offending her with the cartoon only to find out that no one at The Foundation had bothered to ask her about it; she thaought it was very funny.

Canadians have nothing.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251515)

to worry about. That is until we run out of natural resources. Then look out, you will be annexed. All of Canada except those frogs in Quebec. No one likes them anyway.

The other Canucks are OK. Real gullible and easy to fool. By the time we take them over, it will be too late. See ya at Tim Hortons eh?

Re:Destroying artistic creativity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251516)

.. a slap in the face for the so-called "christian coalition" ..

Well, excuse the hell out of the Christian Coalition for wanting to protect Children and Families. There are Lots of people who think that this Country has been going in the WRONG direction for a long time now! You may look at things like reduced Church attendance and higher Moral decay as good, but don't think everybody has to agree with you. Southpark is completely pointless, and it exists only to undermine Parental (and higher) authority and to get the minds of Children into the gutter. Thanks but no thanks.

Ed

Re:Voluntary Cencorship? Sure, we can dig it! (1)

cannes (151121) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251517)

Not to Be a dick or anything.... but the "that chef is a bad mother..." "shut your mouth...." "hey man, I'm just the chef...." I believe that came from Pearl Jam's "Dirty Frank" in 1992 off the Even Flow single.... "that Dirty Frank is a bad mother......" "shut your mouth......" "hey man, I'm just talking about Dirty Frank....." it's cool song

Live Performance, yeah! (2)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251518)

Remove all the naughty words but secretly replace the last note of the song with "The Brown Noise." That would be a memorable performance.

Re:What a crock (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251519)

I am the only person in the world who is allowed to make fun of me!!!

Re:Voluntary Cencorship? Sure, we can dig it! (1)

rifter (147452) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251520)

um, "theme from shaft" is just a wee bit older than pearl jam, so I would imagine you have this backwards

Re:We all know what will happen.. (2)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251521)

Heh, that particular episode would have made Andy Kaufman proud. It's HIS kind of humor.

Why is slashdot so slow? (1)

Maurice (114520) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251532)

In the last two days slashdot pages have been very very slow to load. Is that just me, or is Slashdot slashdotted? I am ~17 hops away according to traceroute. Slashdot is almost always slow for me, but it's been unbearable lately (>30 second wait to load the page, and I'm on cable modem!). But, to go on the topic: Blame Canada really expressed what many Americans think about Canada, but it really didn't diss on Canada, but on the USA. I don't see how Canadians can be *that* offended. Besides, it's all marketing. Americans find it funny when people speak about Canada like this so that is how it's done. It sells.

Re:Fear not! (1)

dazedNconfuzed (154242) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251533)

I find the combination of your comment and your .sig ironic.

What irony? There's a difference between being forced to not speak freely to others, and choosing to not listen. I don't want to read anything from Katz so I just filtered him out...and made a statement indicating my displeasure with his lame non-nerd, non-news articles. This in contrast with the SP rewrite issue, which involves one group forcing another to not say certain things to a willing third party...an act which will (I believe) result in the second party saying something even more offensive and embarrass the first party in the process (THAT's where the real irony is).

Freedom to speak includes the freedom to not listen.

Scat circles? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251534)

Dude, if he's doing scat circles around most of you, then who the hell cleans up the ice? And doesn't it smell? I mean, enough to make a circle around most of a team must be a LOT of it.

"Satan always likes to have some turds around"

Re:News for Nerds? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251536)

Thanks you for your solid and thought out reply. You pointed out aspects that I didn't consider. I just want to thanks you for your reply. Specifically, that it was not a flame.
I do think we have gone past the point that if it is on the internet it has to be geek material. I mean I can find out what the whether is likely to be tomorrow on the internet, that does not mean water falling out of the sky is news.
I always considered SP to be part of the "Teen subculture" in general. This generation of teens have had internet access a good portion of there lives, so natural teen subculture will "spill" over into it.

Re:Self-censorship or Comedy Opportunity? (1)

Steve Burnap (155427) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251537)

A nice little self-referential bit from last weeks "X-Files". They were doing a "COPS" parody:

Cop: "What the (bleep) are you talking about"

(other dialog)

Scully and Mulder walk away, followed by the camera.

Scully: "Is that thing live?"

Mudler: "Nah...She said (bleep)."

The funniest one on "South Park" was when Kyle's brother is kidnapped by aliens. When Kyle confronts them, he starts out talking with one or to bleeps. As he continues, they increase in frequency until there is nothing but bleeping. Had this been actual unbleeped swearing, it wouldn't have been near as funny.

Just tell Cartman... (1)

cfish (61161) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251538)

Just tell Cartman, don't ask your mother to fsck herself.

Did you know that, this movie was originally namely "(something) from Hell" and the censorship would not let the word "hell" to slip through.

Their solution: "bigger, longer and uncut." is 100 times nastier. I expect that these guys are going to pull something "perfectly legal" but "extremely nasty."

Re:News for Nerds? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251539)

Thanks for the opinion. I apprciate someones honest opinion much more then generic flames .

Re:Thank You (NOT) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251541)

>Author's Note: for those too ignorant to pick up on it, that was sarcasm and humour

More so than you will ever know, troll-eaten-goat-boy

Why perform the nominated songs? (1)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251542)

It strikes me as rather ridiculous that they perform the nominated songs during the show. Why? It's about movies. It's not like they show the nominated MOVIES during the show... So why perform the songs that are, ultimately, crap?

If The Matrix doesn't pick up the award for best visual effects, I am paying zero attention to the Oscars ever again.

Oh, Canada! (1)

ChristTrekker (91442) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251544)

Welcome to Canada, it's the Maple Leaf state
Canada, oh Canada, it's great!
The people are nice and they speak French, too
If you don't like it, man, you sniff glue
The Great White North, their kilts are plaid
Hosers take off, it's not half bad
I want to be where yaks can run free
Where Royal Mounties can arrest me

Let's go to Canada, let's leave today
Canada, oh, Canada, I Sil Vous Plait

They've got trees, and mooses, and sled dogs
Lots of lumber, and lumberjacks, and logs
We all think it's kind of a drag
That you have to go there to get milk in a bag
They say "eh?" instead of "what?" or "duh?"
That's the mighty power of Canada
I want to be where lemmings run into the sea
Where the marmosets can attack me

Let's go to Canada, let's leave today
Canada, oh, Canada, I Sil Vous Plait

Please, please, explain to me
How this all has come to be
We forgot to mention something here
Did we say that William Shatner is a native citizen?
And Slurpees made from venison
That's deer

Let's go to Canada, let's leave today
Canada, oh, Canada, I Sil Vous Plait

FIF [fiveironfrenzy.com]

Re:Uncle Fukkah (2)

AndyL (89715) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251545)

But the song is making fun of America not Canada! It's making a joke about how the latest trend in America and American media is to blame everybody else. The less connected to the actual even the better. Canada was just used as a ridiculous example.

It sort of makes me wonder if you understood the point of the whole movie?

What a crock (5)

Erik Fish (106896) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251553)


Oh sure, the story SAYS it's ABC's fault but I blame those touchy canadians!

It seems a shame to mess with the song. If I were Trey I'd just make liberal use of the "bleep" -- in fact I'd bleep out every other bleeping word weather it needs to be or not -- just to make a point.

Censorship is obscenity.

Here you go...uncensored lyrics (2)

NYC (10100) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251554)

Blame Canada All four Moms Sheila: Time's have changed Our kids are kids are getting worse They wont obey their parents They just want to fart and curse! Sharon: Should we blame the government? Liane: Or blame society? Dads: Or should we blame the images on TV? Sheila: No, blame Canada Everyone: Blame Canada Sheila: With all their beady little eyes And flappin heads so full of lies Everyone: Blame Canada Blame Canada Sheila: We need to form a full assault Everyone: It's Canadas fault! Sharon: Don't blame me For my son Stan He saw the darn cartoon And now he's off to join the Klan! Liane: And my boy Eric once Had my picture on his shelf But now when I see him he tells me to fuck myself! Sheila: Well, blame Canada Everyone: Blame Canada It seems that everythings gone wrong Since Canada came along Everyone: Blame Canada Blame Canada Some Guy: There not even a real country anyway Ms. McCormick: My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer it's true Instead he burned up like a piggy on a barbecue Everyone: Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire? Or the doctors who allowed him to expire? Sheila: Heck no! Everyone: Blame Canada Blame Canada Sheila: With all their hockey hubbabaloo Liane: And that bitch Anne Murray too Everyone: Blame Canada Shame on Canada The smut we must stop The trash we must smash Laughter and fun must all be undone We must blame them and cause a fuss Before someone thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus
--Ivan, weenie NT4 user: bite me!

What are they taking out? (1)

AndyL (89715) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251556)

My MP3 ripper seems to have cut out a bit early for whatever reason, but I can't hear anything that should need to be removed. The only thing I hear is the f-word once. Couldn't that just be bleeped? That way they wouln't have to find anouther person to voice it. Because they're going to have a hard time finding someone who can do the voices exactly the same.

Re:Voluntary Cencorship? Sure, we can dig it! (5)

John Fulmer (5840) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251558)

Funny you should say this:

I saw an interview with Issac Hayes (who is 'Chef' on South Park) some time ago, about when he was writing that classic, tender love song, 'The Theme From Shaft'.

At some point, one of the lyrics was:

"You know that Shaft is one bad mother-!@#$%^!#.."

He wrote this down and KNEW that there would be no way to get it past the 60's-era censors or the studio. So, he censored himself and created one of the best musical cliches of all time:

"You know that Shaft is one bad mother-...."

"Shut your mouth!"

"But I'm talking about Shaft!"

"We can dig it..."

Sometimes censorship is good! :)

Oops (1)

NYC (10100) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251559)

Slashdot bug. The formatting went back to my default after I previewed. Very annoying. Please moderate down.
--Ivan, weenie NT4 user: bite me!

Re:What are they taking out? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251565)

They're taking out "Blame" because Liberal Hollywood doesn't recognize that anyone is to blame for anything.

The Canadian Race (5)

DoomHaven (70347) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251570)

We Canadians *are* a race; Nietsche's(sp?) race of supermen! Due the harsh living of -40 degree temperatures (during summer, no less!), the constant danger presented from high-velocity low flying hockey pucks, and the only companionship coming from frisky polar bears, Canadians have evolved far beyond anything you Americans hosers will *ever* approach. We are a *higher* life: homo superior canadiana.

But seriously, I am Canadian nationalist, loved the song, think it's great for the crew at South Park to be recognized at this level. I haven't heard any bad Canadian backlash because of the song. All my Canadian friends *love* it, none are insulted by it; in fact, most were saying, "Hey, hoser, South Park's even got a song aboot us, eh?" (this is coming from people in a country that has a national apolelxy everytime Canada is refered to on the American media we watch on our bootleg mini-dishes, hooked to the top of the igloo).

Re:Link to uncensored lyrics (2)

Anomalous Canard (137695) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251571)

c) live performance

Probably. In the past when songs from Disney animations have been nominated, live singers have performed the song as part of a huge production number. They sometimes do mixtures of live action and animation in Oscar sequences, but not ususally in the song sections.

Sometimes the performer of the nominated song is the original performer and sometimes not.

Anomalous: inconsistent with or deviating from what is usual, normal, or expected

Re:Destroying artistic creativity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251572)

shut your fucking mouth, uncle fucker.

Anne Murray (3)

Baron Fundi (22034) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251573)

The papers here in Canada thought this was oh so terrible, especially since the song referred to Anne Murray as a bitch.

So a reporter called her up to see what she thought. She thought the song was hilarious.

I guess they were upset that SHE wasn't upset...

Re:News for Nerds? (1)

syntax (2932) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251574)

Well, if you are bitching about it, its nothing new at all. Search back in the archives a year or two, you'll see that they were covering South Park even way back then. And I do consider South Park a show that geeks watch, although not 'geeky' persay. Similar to how Teletubbies is watched by stoners, although not aimed towards or made about (as far as we can tell that is) stoners. Just remember, geek culture is more than just coding and hacking and such.

Re:Voluntary Cencorship? Sure, we can dig it! (1)

BrerBear (8338) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251575)

I guess it didn't hurt Isaac Hayes, because he ended up winning the Best Song Oscar for the theme from "Shaft".

Moderate the above post DOWN please. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251577)

yeah shut the hell up, what are you, on a crusade for south park you troll. or maybe you're just trying desperately to make intelligent sounding conversation about something as stupid as south park. MODERATE SIGNAL 11 DOWN.

Re:Destroying artistic creativity (3)

Plasmic (26063) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251581)

shut your fucking mouth, uncle fucker.

Far be it from me to throw meat to the trolls, but this comment should be 'Score: 5, Funny'; It expreses in only 6 words what every other post on this thread attempts to convey to us, the Slashdot readers: censorship sucks.

The Oscars are telling Trey to shut his fucking mouth and he shouldn't. He shouldn't be the uncle fucker that's within all of us. He must leverage his market space in the entertainment industry to further the censorship campaign by embarking on a new journey toward a greater good for the common folk: the uncle fucker.

DON'T SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH, UNCLE FUCKER.

Re:The Canadian Race (1)

Zan Thrax (53693) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251583)

Well, the local Southam paper ran the lyrics (mostly), and there was one letter the next day bashing it. I swear, the editorial page needs to have a reply button...

On behalf of Slashdot... (2)

Doppleganger (66109) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251590)

I apologize. Slashdot is sorry that it posted something that didn't interest you, personally. If you would please post your personal preferences, Slashdot will be happy to restrict all future articles to only such things that are entirely within your personal definition of "news for nerds", and "stuff that matters".

Err.. what's that you say? I'm not qualified to speak for Slashdot? Odd... but I suppose you're qualified to speak for all the 'nerds' who DO believe this story is "stuff that matters" (including the nerds who run this site), huh?

All sarcasm aside, does one article about censorship of a South Park song among the technical and philosophical stories that have been posted today really qualify Slashdot for the jab of "Southparkdot"?

'Nerds' have notoriously varied preferences (check the Jargon file for a good description), and Slashdot does a fairly good job of catering to the most prevelant of those preferences (aside from Jon Katz, of course :). After all, someone must have been interested in the story to have submitted it.

WWBBD? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251591)

He would go for the gold, of course! Hence the rewriting. I'm sure Trey will end up kicking an arse or two, just like Brian Boitano would do.

Re:...and I quote: (2)

TheTomcat (53158) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251592)

You clicked on the article, didn't you? Southpark is(was) subpopculture. Especially among nerds. If you didn't find the article informative, or interesting, why did you click on 'read more'?

Some people have nothing better to do than complain about things.

I'm offended ... (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251593)

... that they [Trey Parker] will rewrite the lyrics for "Blame Canada"

Now Canada isn't good enough to be used in Jokes??

As a Canadian I found the "original" song to be hilarious. Hey, if you can't laugh at yourself ... maybe someone needs to lighten up ;-)

This guy should check out "Royal Canadian Air Farce", some of the best political humour around.

Cheers

We all know what will happen.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1251594)

That movie was the largest anti-regulatory movie ever made. For them to censor themselves would be to put everything they worked for on that movie to begin with down the toilet.

Expect to see a NASTIER, more VILE version at the awards! Hooray! More swearing! More animal sex! Hopefully it'll disgust tons of people to turn off their tv's.

Fear not! (1)

dazedNconfuzed (154242) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251595)

Parker claims that he got the MPAA censors to change the South Park rating down to an R by adding more hysterically filthy material. Even the censor-approved title (South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut) is more crude/disgusting than the milder-yet-censored original title (South Park: All Hell Breaks Loose). With that history, have no fear: Parker surely will come up with an even more raunchy version of Blame Canada and get it aired before the censors realize they've been had.

Destroying artistic creativity (5)

Signal 11 (7608) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251596)

Censor it and it dies. The reason South Park is popular is because it pokes fun at the people who want to censor and control modern media. SP is a slap in the face for the so-called "christian coalition", political correctness, and the general stupidity and holy war activism going on down in DC and around the country.

Modify it and you effectively kill it AND compromise your position. Don't do it.

Uncle Fukkah (1)

AlphaHelix (117420) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251597)

IMHO, Blame Canada was one of the weakest songs in the production, but was chosen because it was the least offensive. Uncle Fukkah was by far my favorite, but there was no possible way that anything short of a total lyrics overhaul would make it prime-time friendly.
* mild mannered physics grad student by day *

Thank You (1)

skelly (38870) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251615)

You can keep Anne Murray. As a Canadian, I am glad that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are going to rewrite the lyrics to a song so blantently offensive to my fellow countrymen. It gross when you think that the Canadian minority in this country have to shudder and hide their faces whenever this song is played. It broke my heart to think that all Americans feel this way about my homeland. It makes me want to bomb the Arquettes and the Baldwins. My beady litle eyes and my flapping head are gald that the creators of South Park are putting an elightened and sensitive message on the issue of the plight of my people. I really don't know what the fuss was all ABOOT! HA HA.

Self-censorship or Comedy Opportunity? (3)

Megane (129182) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251617)

Williams quoted Lili Fini Zanuck who is co-producing the telecast with her husband, Richard, as saying that Parker "will come up with some funny solutions to his own problems

See, the thing is, foul language is not funny in and of itself, only when it has shock value, and that tends to wear out quickly. The comedy comes in making the audience come up with the foul language in their heads on their own.

In fact, that's one problem I had with the movie (the other being I generally don't like musicals)... I like how they bleep out The F-Word on the TV series, and don't bleep out much else, because it makes it more funny when you notice how much else doesn't get bleeped!

Another example: The second Austin Powers movie had the montages where they cut off the last word of a sentence where it would have been profanity, then cut to the start of another sentence with the same or a similar sounding word. Again, it's not the profanity that's funny, it's how it's covered up.

Fight the Power (1)

Hangtime (19526) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251618)

The orignial songs didn't curb itself to the censors and neither did the movie. That is what made the movie so good. Dont go rewriting the song now because you dont have to cowtow to the Man!

Re:WWBBD? (1)

JohnnyCannuk (19863) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251619)

Who cares? What would Brian Orser do? or Elvis Stojko? or ....

Never mind.

Always a brides maid, never a Bride.

Correct URL (5)

Krellis (19116) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251620)

The correct URL for the story in question would be here [imdb.com]. The URL in the story goes to today's news, and this was in yesterday's. And if you really don't feel like clicking on the link:

http://us.imdb.com/StudioBrief/2000/20000222.htm l#3

Enjoy.



---
Tim Wilde
Gimme 42 daemons!

Re:Fear not! (1)

chandler (98984) | more than 14 years ago | (#1251621)

I find the combination of your comment and your .sig ironic.

"The romance of Silicon Valley was about money - excuse me, about changing the world, one million dollars at a time."
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