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Evangelical Scientists Debate Creation Story

Hugh Pickens writes (1984118) writes | more than 3 years ago

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Hugh Pickens writes writes "Polls by Gallup and the Pew Research Center find that four out of 10 Americans believe humanity descend from Adam and Eve but NPR reports that evangelical scientists are now saying publicly that they can no longer believe the Genesis account and that it is unlikely that we all descended from a single pair of humans. "That would be against all the genomic evidence that we've assembled over the last 20 years so not likely at all" says biologist Dennis Venema, a senior fellow at BioLogos Foundation, a Christian group that tries to reconcile faith and science. "You would have to postulate that there's been this absolutely astronomical mutation rate that has produced all these new variants in an incredibly short period of time. Those types of mutation rates are just not possible. It would mutate us out of existence." Venema is part of a growing cadre of Christian scholars who say they want their faith to come into the 21st century and say it's time to face facts: There was no historical Adam and Eve, no serpent, no apple, no fall that toppled man from a state of innocence. "There's nothing to be scared of here," adds Venema. "There is nothing to be alarmed about. It's actually an opportunity to have an increasingly accurate understanding of the world — and from a Christian perspective, that's an increasingly accurate understanding of how God brought us into existence.""

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Not quite. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37168756)

There was no historical Adam and Eve, no serpent, no apple, no fall that toppled man from a state of innocence. "There's nothing to be scared of here," adds Venema. "There is nothing to be alarmed about.

This is what I always pictured the serpent telling Eve. "Go ahead and eat it. There's nothing to be afraid of, you won't die!" If there is no fall from grace, no sin, then there was no need for Christ's sacrifice and resurrection. There is no relationship with God, no point in the bible telling the story of creation, etc. This would have most Christians alarmed if they thought about it for more than a few minutes.

No matter if you are atheist or Christian, if you do away with the story of creation told in Genesis, then you do away with the need for the rest of the bible.

Re:Not quite. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#37169288)

A bit of an exaggeration don't you think? The Catholic church has long taught that Genesis is mythological account of creation. Their church sees the old testament largely as an oral history; a volume of stories from which some (but not all) of their morality can be derived. I do think that there is room for religion in a world that doesn't believe in the story of Adam and Eve.

As far as the assertion that throwing away the genesis story is paramount to throwing away the rest of Christianity, that is a pipe dream by people who only see religion as a destructive force, people who would rather have it all abolished.

Yes, the church has been historically slow to adapt to changes. Still, there are many people out there like myself who are waiting for the right group to come along; a revised updated church whose theology does not conflict with my morals (civil rights anybody?... current battles included) or my fairly well developed view of reality as evidenced by nature and elucidated by science. To take a skeptic's spin on this; if churches are memes, then I am waiting for the cute-kitten meme rather than throwing in with shockingly prevalent goatse meme.

Re:Not quite. (1)

Nutria (679911) | more than 3 years ago | (#37175382)

A bit of an exaggeration don't you think?

No. The whole point of Judaism is (according to Christian theology) is as an imperfect, what-man-was-ready-for-at-the-time series of temporary reconciliations with God, and God-man Jesus' death on the cross was as the perfect sacrifice, permanent Redemption of Man from The Fall.

If there's no Fall, then there was no need for Judaism and no need for Christianity.

Back to polytheism! Woo hoo Hinuism!!!

a revised updated church whose theology does not conflict with my morals

Unitarian Universalism is probably the sect for you. Lots of Birkenstocks and open-mindeness.

Or Buddhism.

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