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Teachers Don't Like Creative Students

walterbyrd (182728) writes | more than 2 years ago

Education 5

walterbyrd writes "One of the most consistent findings in educational studies of creativity has been that teachers dislike personality traits associated with creativity. Research has indicated that teachers prefer traits that seem to run counter to creativity, such as conformity and unquestioning acceptance of authority (e.g., Bachtold, 1974; Cropley, 1992; Dettmer, 1981; Getzels & Jackson, 1962; Torrance, 1963). The reason for teachers’ preferences is quite clear creative people tend to have traits that some have referred to as obnoxious (Torrance, 1963). Torrance (1963) described creative people as not having the time to be courteous, as refusing to take no for an answer, and as being negativistic and critical of others. Other characteristics, although not deserving the label obnoxious, nonetheless may not be those most highly valued in the classroom"
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Naturally (2)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | more than 2 years ago | (#38393642)

The purpose of school is to destroy creativity and enforce conformity.

Maybe... (1)

unitron (5733) | more than 2 years ago | (#38393994)

...they just aren't too crazy about the one kid who constantly interferes with them trying to manage to teach 30 or 40 kids at once.

Which really isn't the fault of either the teacher or the kid so much as it is too much to be done, not nearly enough resources with which to do it.

That was my experience at school (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 2 years ago | (#38397578)

And I started 1st grade in 1958. However,

The reason for teachersâ(TM) preferences is quite clear creative people tend to have traits that some have referred to as obnoxious (Torrance, 1963). Torrance (1963) described creative people as not having the time to be courteous, as refusing to take no for an answer, and as being negativistic and critical of others.

That wasn't the case with me, except maybe the "taking 'no' for an answer" -- if I asked a question that led to further questions or seemed illogical, I'd insist on further explanation. The teachers got exasperated when they didn't have the education or intelligence to answer them; one that particularly sticks in my mind is my 8th grade teacher knowing that pi was endless, but being unable to explain why.

Of course, doing stuff like building dufus detectors (that of course went off when aimed atthe teacher) didn't get them to like me much, either.

Did you know that ten tmes as much money is spent on special education for lerning-disabled kids than on gifted kids?

Re:That was my experience at school (1)

Silfax (1246468) | more than 2 years ago | (#38402504)

Did you know that ten tmes as much money is spent on special education for lerning-disabled kids than on gifted kids?

Learning disabled & gifted should just be different flavors of the special education ice cream. Unfortunately most school districts don't see it that way -- especially when they get more state aid for the kids who have difficulties than those that are ahead of the rest of the class.

Personally I hate both terms (learning disabled and gifted), and prefer to use "differently learning"

Re:That was my experience at school (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 2 years ago | (#38408182)

The terms don't matter to me, words are just words, and I have a daughter in each group. Leila is learning disabled, Patty is gifted, but if somebody wants to use different terms I'm ok with it so long as it doesn't hinder communication. They're both "differently learning," but they're differently learning differently.

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