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Student Attacked After Dropping Cake

Anonymous Coward writes | more than 6 years ago

Education 17

An anonymous reader writes ""School security guards in Palmdale, CA have been caught on camera assaulting a 16-year-old girl and breaking her arm after she spilled some cake during lunch and left some crumbs on the floor after cleaning it up. The girl, Pleajhai Mervin, told Fox News LA that she was bumped while queuing for lunch and dropped the cake. After being ordered to clean it up and then re-clean the spot three times, she attempted to leave the area out of embarrassment but was jumped on by security who forced her onto a table, breaking her wrist in the process.""
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Sensationalist headline... (1)

Lord_Sintra (923866) | more than 6 years ago | (#20801207)

She was forcibly restrained after refusing to follow an instruction, and attempting to walk away, not for dropping a cake.

Re:Sensationalist headline... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20801335)

Worse, the young lady had already been removed from several other high schools for bad behavior. Her attitude was the reason for the restraint - not for dropping the cake (attacking a different security guard). Besides, the cake was being smeared around and causing problems in the quad and she refused to clean things up (asked multiple times, and she walked away). Plus, her mom was arrested for attacking a school official - not because of her race.

Interestingly, when do you wear a sling because of a broken wrist? Don't you just put it in a cast? Also, did you see the mom's fake tears on the ABC News?

These two characters are unbelievable! Disrupt school, don't follow rules, and think they can sue the school. Pure BS. Learn to behave in public.

Re:Sensationalist headline... (2, Insightful)

superwiz (655733) | more than 6 years ago | (#20802795)

Yes, I am sure you here to stand for law and order and you believe in your cause very strongly... albeit anonymously. No smearing of the cake... not even a chocolate one... not even with a cherry on top justifies having your face pushed into a table by a man 3 times your weight. She should not sue the school. Both the administrator and all the guards involved deserve to do time in jail. The guard who handled her can probably be convicted on child molestation. If she did not attack a guard ON THE DAY OF THE INCIDENT, she did not have to be restrained. And certainly neither she nor the student making the video deserved to be roughed up.

Re:Sensationalist headline... (1)

superwiz (655733) | more than 6 years ago | (#20801357)

Uhuuhh... She is not a dog. She is a human being. Being a security guard does not give one the power to make up arbitrary instructions. Since the "instructions" were based on the trivial fact that she dropped cake, the headline is not sensationalist. And since she wasn't causing physical harm to anyone or putting anyone in danger, the guards had no business touching her. They shouldn't be sued. They should be in jail for assault.

Re:Sensationalist headline... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20801537)

Your facts are incorrect. She attacked a security guard. The cake was not simply dropped. She refused to clean things up. Also, I doubt her wrist was broken by the guard. Check the video shot by someone (who was breaking school rules for having something on campus they should not have had ...) and you'll see the guard was not pushing, grunting, angry .. etc. The video cameras on the campus will show she was a jerk. Plain and simple.

Re:Sensationalist headline... (1)

superwiz (655733) | more than 6 years ago | (#20802317)

It would seem from the videos available and from the interview with the student that my facts were incorrect. The severity of the crime committed by the guards is much more than alleged in the story. They assaulted the the girl, the student using his cell phone to record the incident (both of them were not endangering anyone) and the mother who asked for law to be enforced. This is, in fact, is not just assault. This is assault with conspiracy (multiple guards and an administrator were involved) to commit obstruction of justice. The fact that recording equipment was forbidden in school is irrelevant. This kind of prohibition is only enforceable to ensure intellectual property rights of the educators. The video was not shot in a classroom. Students have every right to record crimes committed against them and fellow students in such a setting.

Re:Sensationalist headline... (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 6 years ago | (#20805731)

Well... I do not know if the young lady was miss-behaving in the school but I what I do know is that it is dang weird to have guards of such calibre (which use that kind of submitting force over kids) *inside* a school. There must be something really wrong in a country that has that (are they trying to submit their children or something like that??).

As another poster said, the girl should have been sent out to the principals office, and to be punished in some way ( back when I was studying in my third world country poor ass school in Mexico the punishments were to clean the school... and you surely learnt not to throw shit after one day doing it... both because it was tyring and because of the shame of being looked by your "friends" cleaning the school).

But it sees that in such first world developed countries like the USA they try kids like criminals...

Fark this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20801459)

Mmm... might be true, but going by the reputation of Fox "News" it's more likely been deliberately distorted and/or biased out of all recognition to make a good news story.

And I really don't see how this story fits into Slashdot's geek/tech-oriented news field, even in the most tenuous way. Take it to Fark instead.

Video offense? (2, Insightful)

charlieo88 (658362) | more than 6 years ago | (#20801527)

Why was the kid filming it arrested? I think that is the much more interesting part of the story.

wtf! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20802671)

Unless I'm completely missing something, this is really f'd up. I don't care if she deliberately *threw* cake at the officer in school, she should be sent to the principal's office for punishment--not arrested. Also, if they really broke her arm (or wrist as stated later in the article), the ADULT MEN were clearly being too forceful arresting a 16-year-old girl.

Manners, anyone? (1)

jsiren (886858) | more than 6 years ago | (#20803097)

This would be ridiculous if it wasn't so revolting. In this day and age, why the fsck would anybody need to be humiliated, let alone assaulted, over a dropped bit of dessert? This sounds like something out of David Copperfield [gutenberg.org] .

Everybody makes mistakes every now and then, and those situations are when manners are needed. What if this kid had bought a piece of cake at a commercial establishment and dropped it (for any reason)? What would you expect her to do? What would you expect the staff to do? What if she spilled a whole cup of coffee on the counter like I did last week? (Consequences: profuse apologies by me, quick cleanup by staff; the only order I got was to take a new cup. I was grateful and took great care with the new cup.)

In my smug and uppity opinion the proper way to handle a situation like this at any level of education would be - not by security guards, but by a teacher; this is an opportunity to educate - to say discreetly to the student "would you please pick that up? Thank you." There is absolutely no reason why this should require
a) the intervention of a security guard,
b) demands to clean the spot beyond what's reasonable (if there's a mess that requires attention, get the janitor),
c) humiliation (the student was, apparently, embarrassed), or
d) violence (which is simply outrageous).

An excercise for the reader: what, in your opinion, does this event teach the kid?

Re:Manners, anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20806179)

Unfortunately, the security guards are there because the students are not polite. In fact, a few days after this incident, a teacher was hit for attempting to block two females from fighting. The one who hit the teacher said, "Get out of my way!" and put a fist right into the teacher's jaw.

Nope. Security guards are necessary at this school.

Besides, the story is wrong. The girl didn't "drop" the cake. There was a food fight. She refused to stop. She even slapped a female security guard. She just couldn't let it go - clean up and move on with life. Maybe that is why she was previously kicked out of so many other high schools! Worse, her mom works for a school district and entered the campus without permission. Ultimately, she got out of control and hit an administrator. The rotten apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.

Re:Manners, anyone? (1)

superwiz (655733) | more than 6 years ago | (#20809569)

Sure, sure. Again you are so confident in your words being in defense of justice that you post them anonymously. Any other way you want to spin that story? How about a link? How about the fact that you spin conveniently forgets to mention that the kid who took the video ended up pushed with his face on the floor and handcuffed. All for just taking the video of guards being abusive. I am confident that you are posting for the sake of doing damage control on behalf of the district.

Re:Manners, anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20814851)

This would be ridiculous if it wasn't so revolting. In this day and age, why the fsck would anybody need to be humiliated, let alone assaulted, over a dropped bit of dessert?

Because that's NOT what happened according to the multiple eyewitnesses coming forward, but fucking saps like you, who believe whatever the medai tells you, lap up the bullshit.

There was an alterncation between this girl and another, and the guard was breaking it up. The girl was acting VERY violent.

But the media plays to gullible shitheads like you.

Re:Manners, anyone? (1)

superwiz (655733) | more than 6 years ago | (#20852323)

There isn't a single report of what you are saying. So either you have access to the people directly involved. In which case, my money is on you doing damage control for the school district (you did post anonymously, after all). Or you read it somewhere else. If the latter is the case, link, please?

Cake or Death!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20813631)

sorry... had to be said.

Obligatory (1)

Sneakernets (1026296) | more than 6 years ago | (#20814009)

This is delicious cake, you must eat it, under penalty of law!
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