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Students 'should use Wikipedia'

Anonymous Coward writes | more than 6 years ago

Education 3

An anonymous reader writes "The BBC has an article on these disturbing quotes from Jimmy Wales.

Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales has said teachers who refuse students access to the site are "bad educators". Speaking at the Online Information conference at London's Olympia, he dismissed the long-running controversy over the site's authority. He said he now thinks that students should be able to cite the online encyclopaedia in their work.
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Bad Logic (1)

pmbasehore (1198857) | more than 6 years ago | (#21612945)

"You can ban kids from listening to rock 'n' roll music, but they're going to anyway," he added. "It's the same with information, and it's a bad educator that bans their students from reading Wikipedia."
If we were talking about something besides information: "You can ban kids from doing drugs, but they're going to anyway."
"You can ban kids from meeting child molesters from the Internet, but they're going to anyway."

Does anyone see anything wrong with his logic?

Re:Bad Logic (1)

lisainkster (1173617) | more than 6 years ago | (#21616555)

In a very basic way these items have been compared poorly.

Re:Bad Logic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21628837)

Bad Logic? Too many Cooks. Wikipedia is no replacement for a consider lecture course. Having a spectrum of different approaches available is noise. In fact any lecturer who argues for Wikipedia are good enough, 'notes', is lazy. Its what the lazy teacher would do. Its also stupid, since why have Universities and lecturers if all students need do is read Wikipedia. Yes, wikipedia is a great resource to fill in the gaps left by a poor lecturer, note any lecturer who recommends wikipedia is a gawd awful one. A good lecturer knows they teach to a spectrum of students who have different abilities, even in the way they learn. Some do well with narrative, some historical, some graphical, some mathematical, some big picture, whatever. A poor lecturer will teach solely to their strength, if they are a good communicator (a talker) they will get lazy on overheads, slow to put out lecture notes and hope student can find other teachers course notes. Notes taught by real lecturers. No, but its worse, the basics facts, the basic methodology, of any subject shouldn't need outsider support docs. A good lecturer, say at linguist end of the computer science would avoid an historical approach. An experimentalist physicist would use the opportunity of lecturing to hone their own theoretical understanding. Teaching is a opportunity for the teacher, well a humble teacher.
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