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Manga Images Depicting Children Lead to Conviction in UK

Bob the Super Hamste Re:Thought policing (379 comments)

I want to take the city of Brussels to court over one of their most famous landmarks. That city has some wealth so I should be set for life.

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The Largest Ship In the World Is Being Built In Korea

Bob the Super Hamste Re:Fun facts (250 comments)

Without finding more details other than it is a different engine manufacturer(MAN instead of Wärtsilä) it looks like it is still a giant low speed diesel. The ultra long stroke diesels are very slow engines (the Wärtsilä I mentioned previously had an RPM range of 22 to 102) even in the low speed diesel engine category. I would imagine that it is the standard one-ups-man-ship from the various manufactures since being able to produce one more efficient drives sales to your company until someone beats you out.

Personally I would love to see one of these guys up close in operation after getting to see an old 2 stroke 5 cylinder diesel Fairbanks engine (~13,000 cu in displacement) start and run. It wasn't loud in the traditional sense but was a you felt it in your chest loud as it shook the concrete floor and building. That one was a medium speed engines that ran at like 200 RPM peak and put out ~300 hp but was a pre war engine from a factory.

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An Algorithm to End the Lines for Ice at Burning Man

Bob the Super Hamste Re:Flawed analysis (281 comments)

But that simple solution wouldn't require Bennett's painfully long convoluted opining on the subject with clickbait teaser.

yesterday
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Developers, IT Still Racking Up (Mostly) High Salaries

Bob the Super Hamste Re:Midwest (170 comments)

Probably around $200k-250k per year. From what I can tell to maintain my current lifestyle with a similar wage to yours in one of those high expense areas would require that level of pay. I find it hard to believe that I would be able to afford a half acre plot with an ~1900 sq. ft. house with a back yard that backs up a 10 acre city park with playground and woods in any of those areas. This also neglects things like outdoor activities like hunting, fishing, and camping which I do a lot of and unless I am out in the boondocks of NY or CA (not where the high paying jobs are) I doubt I would be able to drive 15 minutes to do those

yesterday
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The Largest Ship In the World Is Being Built In Korea

Bob the Super Hamste Re:Largest single emitter of CO2 on Earth? (250 comments)

While they emit a large amount of CO2 they make much better use of their fuel than smaller ships. The correct metric is how many tons of cargo can be moved 1 mile on one gallon of fuel. This is the best way to gauge such things and given that this is suppose to release 50% less CO2 than other ships I would assume it is based off of that metric.

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The Largest Ship In the World Is Being Built In Korea

Bob the Super Hamste Re:Fun facts (250 comments)

I was curious about the engine as well and after looking at the article it appears that they are just using the 8 cylinder version of the engine that they were putting into single engine ships (14 cylinders). Some truly impressive engines.

yesterday
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No More Lee-Enfield: Canada's Rangers To Get a Tech Upgrade

Bob the Super Hamste Re: a quick search (283 comments)

As far as energy at the muzzle goes a .44 mag is a little bit below that of a 7.62x39mm round, granted the .44 mag is a larger bullet but bleeds energy fast. A .303 packs about 25% more energy than the 7.62x39mm round with a heavier bullet and 7.62 NATO, .30-06, or 7.62x54r all having even more punch. A side arm is really only useful for close encounters with large critters as a last ditch effort.

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No More Lee-Enfield: Canada's Rangers To Get a Tech Upgrade

Bob the Super Hamste Re: a quick search (283 comments)

7.62NATO, .30-06, and 7.62x54r are all considered highly effective rounds against all large game in North America. I wouldn't expect to be taking dangerous African game with them but for big animals like moose, grizzly, and polar bears they will get the job done without issue. Also most of those rounds would have a 180+ grain option hollow or soft point option which is what you would want. I use 7.62x54r 203 grain soft points when hunting and it has not problem going through a decent buck or black bear with a large exit wound.

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No More Lee-Enfield: Canada's Rangers To Get a Tech Upgrade

Bob the Super Hamste Re: May I suggest (283 comments)

Bottom line: Stand me in the world's best gun shop, give me unlimited credit, and tell me I can take one - and ONLY one weapon. I'll take the Lee-Enfield, every time. And I'll still be using it when every other weapon there has died of old age or just disintegrated because of the environment.

There are some other rifles that will be kicking around with those old Enfields, although they will all be about the same age and comparable in power. Personally I would take the Finnish M39 (I like Mosin-Nagents) and there would be people who would take the K98s. They all are effective hunting and military weapons and should have no problem with the abuse, although I don't know about the K98s. As far as long serving weapons the Finns are still using rifle build on 100+ year old receivers so those old Mosin-Nagents can't be that bad.

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Bill Gates: Piketty's Attack on Income Inequality Is Right

Bob the Super Hamste Re:Let me get this right (832 comments)

So running a deficit that is ~80% to 95% of the current budget is ok? $200 billion is a lot of money but the federal budgets have been sitting around 4 trillion. Or put another way taking in ~1/2 to 2x the amount of money paid on the interest on the national debt.

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Chemists Grow Soil Fungus On Cheerios, Discover New Antifungal Compounds

Bob the Super Hamste Re:Why Trix didn't work (77 comments)

Those probably kill the fungi all by themselves.

3 days ago
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FBI Director Continues His Campaign Against Encryption

Bob the Super Hamste Re:I don't get it... (281 comments)

Not really get a warrant and for you to decrypt in all cases. Right now they can only do that provided that you would not be further incriminating your self. The case in question is the In re Boucher case. Here border guards had already seen the portions of the drive's contents . Then there is the later US v. Kischner case that ruled it was a violation of a person's 5th Amendment right to force them to divulge their encryption password to produce evidence that could be used against them in that case. To further muddy the waters there is also the mess that is the US v. Fricosu case where a judge order the defendant to produce the password but a list of probable password was produced by her ex husband so the constitutionality of the order from the judge still remains in question since that issue was bypassed.

IANAL YMMV.
So what we can glean from these 3 cases is:
1. Don't cross a border with your encrypted device on so encrypted material can be seen.
2. Don't piss off your ex
3. Don't be a pedo (why do all cases involving encryption seem to be pedo ones, yes I understand they are easy targets everyone hates) 4. This issue isn't decided and it seems the government doesn't want it resolved.

3 days ago
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FBI Warns Industry of Chinese Cyber Campaign

Bob the Super Hamste Re:A Way Out (105 comments)

Short term yes. Long term maybe or maybe not, it depends on if we decide to make crap here again or not.

4 days ago
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FBI Warns Industry of Chinese Cyber Campaign

Bob the Super Hamste Re:if they hacked Slashdot (105 comments)

Just wait until the get into a discussion over text editors. It would paralyze them for centuries.

4 days ago
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When will the first successful manned Mars mission happen?

Bob the Super Hamste Re:oil discovery = terraforming (216 comments)

I don't think Mars will complain if they crash into the surface either.

4 days ago
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Scanning Embryos For Super-Intelligent Kids Is On the Horizon

Bob the Super Hamste Re:What a terrible, terrible idea. (363 comments)

Gattaca was a cautionary tale, not a blueprint for future eugenics.

This makes me wonder how "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was originally received. But after a quick check it looks like it got a better reception than GATTACA but I wonder about the initial sales.

[gets out tinfoil]
Maybe big brother just got better at conditioning people. Bread and circuses.
[tinfoil off]

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Scanning Embryos For Super-Intelligent Kids Is On the Horizon

Bob the Super Hamste Re:and eventually your DNA will be your resume'.. (363 comments)

The best and probably most relevant quote would be this:

Believe me we have enough imperfection built in already. Your child doesn't need any additional burdens. Keep in mind this child is still you, only the best of you. You could conceive a thousand times and never get such a result.

Too bad the film was a box office flop since it was sci-fi film without explosions, lens flares, buxom scantily clad green women, and/or laser swords. Also at this point there are probably a lot of people who haven't seen the movie since it is 17 years old (and now I feel old) and it hasn't been that popular. Good story, wonderfully shot, well acted, and explores topics that are becoming prescient, just not what people think of when they hear it is a sci-fi movie. Just tell someone it is a drama and it is usually much more readily received.

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TSA airport screenings now start before you arrive at the airport

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  about a year ago

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) writes "The New York Times is reporting that the TSA is now doing background investigations on passengers before they arrive at the airport. The publicly stated reason for this is that it is to streamline the security procedures at airports allowing more passengers to receive less scrutiny while at the air port but this new authority allows the TSA additional information about each traveler. The prescreening that is being performed for domestic travel now uses a simiar standard to that of foreign individuals who where entering the US. The new measures go beyond what is used in the Secure Flight program and while light on details mentions that the passengers passport number will be used. The article does however point out the data sources that are available to the TSA to conduct these pre-screening with such as tax identification number, past travel itineraries, property records, physical characteristics, and law enforcement or intelligence information. Also mentioned is that individuals who do not have a passport will not be subjected to the rules and from my reading will not be eligible for lesser screening at that airport. The stated goal of this program is to have 25% of all airline passengers in the US receive lighter screening at the airport so that they don't have to take their shoes off, remove jackets, or remove laptops from bags. Additionally passengers who are in higher risk categories can receive additional screenings. Also mentioned is that all passengers are currently prescreened and that airlines are required to share your passport data with the TSA if they have it."
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Judge refuses to throw out case of man who videotaped ambulance crew

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  about a year ago

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) writes "In a follow up to the case of the man who was charged with HIPPA violations for video taping an ambulance crew doing their job the St. Paul Pioneer Press is reporting that the trial will go forward. The charges against Andrew Joseph Henderson currently are disorderly conduct and interfering with an ambulance crew. According to Henderson he was 30 feet away from the ambulance crew and thus could not have been interfering with their work while the police claim it was 3 to 5 feed. Henderson also challenged the disorderly conduct charge which in law is defined as "offensive, obscene, abusive, boisterous, or noisy conduct that the actor knows or has reason to know would tend to alarm, anger or disturb others or provoke an assault or breach of the peace." One of the issues in the previous story was the deletion of his video recording which the police took as evidence, as stated by one police officer, which had it not been deleted would have been able to clear this issue up.

The /. article that covered the previous story is this one."

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Copyright keeping books and music from the market

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  about a year ago

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) writes "CNN Money is reporting on a study by Paul J. Heald of the University of Illinois College of Law which shows what many Slashdoters already believe, that our current copyright laws actually keep books and music off the market instead of helping to increase their availability. The study looked at the availability of new (not used) books that were copyrighted in 1850 and 1950 and found that there were 3 times the number of books available from 1850 than from 1950 even though more books were published in 1950. The issues brought up in the study and article are that our current copyright laws:
Actually hurt the availability of works
Don't provide the the incentive to create that we have been lead to believe
the copyright of a works correlates with the disappearance a work rather than its availability."

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Computer trading and dark pools

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  about a year ago

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) writes "CNN Money has an article on computerized trading specifically the non-public markets that are often used to execute orders. The company that the article discusses executes 1/8 of all stock trades in the US or about 900 million trades a day, for comparison the NYSE executes about 700 million trades. The article discusses dark pools or private markets where quotes aren't disclosed to the broader public markets. If the company is unable to fill an order from within its own dark pool it will submit the order to the broader public market, 13 public exchanges, as well as up to 20 other private dark pools. The quotes offered by the private dark pools by law have to be the same or better quote than those offered on public exchanges. There have been recent questions about whether the quotes provided by dark pools have been the best for customers and there is a current investigation by FINRA into the methods used by market makers and dark pool operators to fill orders."
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Comcast to expand public WiFi using home internet connections

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  about a year ago

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) writes "The St. Paul Pioneer press is reporting that Comcast is planning on expanding its network of public WiFi hot spots in the Twin Cities area by using home internet connections and user's WiFi routers. Customers will be upgraded to new wireless routers that will have 2 wireless networks, one for the home users and one for the general public. Subscribers to Comcast's Xfinity service and customers that participate in the public WiFi program will be allowed free access to the public WiFi offered by this service. Non Comcast customers get 2 free sessions a month each lasting 1 hour with additional sessions costing money. The article mentions that a similar service already exists and is provided by the Spain-based company Fon."
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PETA looking to use drones to watch hunters and farmers

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  about a year and a half ago

Bob the Super Hamste (1152367) writes "CNN is reporting that PETA is looking into using drones to monitor hunters and farmers. Specifically PETA wants to use drones where ever animals may be abused to killed. At present they do not possess any drones or have specific locations selected for deployment. The article point out that PETA isn't the first group to deploy drones to watch hunters and mentions the incidents with the group SHARK that has made news previously when their drones were twice shot down while monitoring pigeon hunts."
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Comcast buys out GE's remaining 49% stake in NBC

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  about a year and a half ago

Bob the Super Hamste writes "On Tuesday Comcast announced that it would accelerated its acquisition of NBCUniversal and purchase the remaining 49% owned by GE for $16.7 billion.Previously GE and Comcast were expected to operate NBCUniversal jointly until mid 2014 with Comcast having the option to extend that out until 2018. So far there are not details on when the deal with be completed but the article indicates that Comcast's complete acquisition of NBCUniversal will be completed years earlier that initially thought."
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Man charged with HIPPA violations for video taping police

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  about 2 years ago

Bob the Super Hamste writes "The St. Paul Pioneer Press is reporting that Andrew Henderson was recording Ramsey County sheriff's deputies frisk a bloodied faced man who was then loaded into an ambulance by paramedics. Then the sheriff's deputy Jacqueline Muellner approached Andrew Henderson and confiscated his video camera stating "We'll just take this for evidence" which was recorded on Andrew Henderson cell phone. On October 30th Andrew Henderson went to Arden Hills sheriff's office to retrieve his video camera where he was told where he would have to wait to receive his camera back. A week later Andrew Henderson was charged with obstruction of legal process and disorderly conduct with the citation stating "While handling a medical/check the welfare (call), (Henderson) was filming it. Data privacy HIPAA violation. Refused to identify self. Had to stop dealing with sit(uation) to deal w/Henderson." In mid November Andrew Henderson went back to the sheriff's office to attempt to retrieve his camera and get a copy of the report when Deputy Dan Eggers refused. Deputy Dan Eggers pulled Andrew Henderson and have the following discussion which was also recorded by Andrew Henderson.
Deputy Dan Eggers: "I think that what (the deputies) felt was you were interfering with someone's privacy that was having a medical mental health breakdown," "They felt like you were being a 'buttinski' by getting that camera in there and partially recording what was going on in a situation that you were not directly involved in."
Deputy Dan Eggers stated that Henderson should "have a little respect" for people's privacy to which Andrew Henderson stated that he had done nothing illegal
Deputy Dan Eggers noted that the incident report stated nothing was recorded on the camera.
Deputy Dan Eggers: "I mean, were you just pointing it?"
Andrew Henderson: "No. It was deleted,"
Deputy Dan Eggers: "You deleted it?"
Andrew Henderson: "No. She must have deleted it," referring to Jacqueline Muellner.
Not possible, Deputy Dan Eggers replied. "There would have been some documentation about that."

Randy Gustafson Ramsey County sheriff's office spokesman states "It is not our policy to take video cameras. It is everybody's right to (record) ... What happens out in public happens out in public. One exception might be when a law enforcement officer decides that the recording is needed for evidence, he said. In that case, the officer would generally send the file to investigators and return the camera on the spot."

Jane Kirtley professor of media ethics and media law at the University of Minnesota states that "Law enforcement has no expectation of privacy when they are carrying out public duties in a public place." She also notes that the seizure and alleged erasure of recorded evidence "raises significant Fourth Amendment issues for him ... The seizure here was not to preserve the evidence — it was to destroy the evidence."

Jennifer Granick, a specialist on privacy issues at Stanford University Law School, states that the alleged violation of HIPPA rules by Andrew Henderson is nonsense stating "There's nothing in HIPAA that prevents someone who's not subject to HIPAA from taking photographs on the public streets, HIPAA has absolutely nothing to say about that.""

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Ford plans to use Aluminum body panels in its F-150 trucks

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Bob the Super Hamste writes "The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Ford is planning on using aluminum body panels in its F-150 trucks. By using these panels they expect to be able to cut about 750 pounds from each vehicle. This move is being driven by the need to meet new EPA fuel economy standards. The article also points out that this will add approximately $1500 dollars to the material cost of each F-150. This may eat into the profit on each vehicle or may be passed along to consumers. Additionally there are manufacturing difficulties in switching from steel to aluminum body panels such as aluminum having more of a tendency to return to its original shape, requiring suction instead of magnets to lift, bonding to other panels. Additionally bonding and welding panels together requires different techniques and the dies that stamp the parts will need to be kept cleaner to prevent scratching the metal. The presses that stamp the panels will need to be run at a slower speed as well to prevent tearing the sheet metal. The article notes that biggest challenge facing Ford in doing this may actually be convincing truck buyers that aluminum is just as tough as steel. This isn't Ford's first time working with aluminum bodies for vehicles as they have in the past produced a small fleet of aluminum bodied Tauruses as well as producing aluminum bodied Jaguars while they were owned by Ford. Several other manufacturers are currently making use of aluminum in vehicles as well as having been used in the past."
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Venezuela bans the commercial sale of firearms and ammunition

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Bob the Super Hamste writes "The BBC is reporting on a new law in Venezuela that effectively bans the commercial sale of firearms and ammunition to private citizens. Previously anyone with a permit could purchase a firearm from any commercial vendor but now only the police, military, and security firms will be able to purchase firearms or ammunition from only state owned manufactures or importers. Hugo Chavez's government states that the goal is to eventually disarm the citizenry. The law which went into effect today was passed on February 29th and up to this point the government has been running an amnesty program allowing citizens to turn in their illegal firearms. Since the law was first passed 805,000 rounds of ammunition have been recovered from gun dealers. The measure is intended to curb violent crime in Venezuela where 78% of homicides are linked to firearms."
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UK Draft Energy Bill avoids banning coal or gas power

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Bob the Super Hamste writes "The BBC is reporting that the UK's new Draft Energy Bill avoids banning coal or gas powered plants. The bill would guarantee profits for new nuclear and offshore wind plants by putting a levy on people's energy bills. The bill does not mandate a statement that minsters had previously made about having totally clean energy within 2 decades. The government states that provisions within the bill will ensure a balanced diverse energy mix as well has stating that future emissions from gas powered plants will have to be captured and stored. The bill also aims to increase competition in the UK energy market by making it easier for new competitors to become connected to the grid.

Joss Garman of Greenpeace states:
"By failing to set a clear goal for carbon-free electricity by 2030, ministers are opening the door to a dangerous new dash for gas that will put up both bills and carbon emissions, and increase our dependence on imported fuel. This means families and business will be exposed to rocketing international gas prices. The fastest and cheapest way to bring down bills and carbon emissions is by ramping up energy efficiency but Ministers have totally failed to deliver on this."

Additionally it would appear that the guarantee of profits for for new nuclear power plants may not be legal as there is a ban on subsidies for nuclear power under European law and the UK coalition government agreement"

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Sicence fiction writer Elizabeth Moon believes everyone should be chipped

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Bob the Super Hamste writes "The BBC has an opinion piece from science fiction writer Elizabeth Moon who believes that everyone should be chipped at birth. Her reasoning is that it would prevent identification mistakes and even allow soldiers to identify combatants from non combatants. You can hear the full piece from the BBC World Service programme The Forum here."
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In communist North Korea even nature mourns Dear L

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Bob the Super Hamste writes "The BBC is reporting that state run media KCNA is reporting that even nature appears to be mourning the loss of Dear Leader. Such incidents include the ice on lake Chon cracking so loud it seemed to shake the Heavens and the Earth, a snow storm hitting as Mr. Kim died, once the snow storm subsided a message carved in rock on the mountain read — "Mount Paektu, holy mountain of revolution. Kim Jong-il" and glowed until sunset. Additionally the Manchurian crane on the statue of Kim Il Sung adopted a posture of grief."
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Ask Slashdot: Reccomended Print On Demand Service

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Bob the Super Hamste writes "One of my side projects is amateur cartography because I have always been kind of a map geek. A few years ago I got tired of maps targeted to hunters that were at best a glorified road atlas and at worst unusable and not worth the paper they were printed on. After a few years of part time effort on gathering, processing, and rendering various data sets I now can create some impressive maps that provide the kind of info that hunters actually care about. I would like to get it in printed book format as that would be the most useful format when on long trips. I have looked at Lulu and Create Space so far but haven't had anything printed by either one yet. Ideally I would like the book to be spiral bound so it will lay flat or can be folded over. Additionally I would like it to able to be available for others to buy and have an ISBN so it can make it into book, retail, and online stores if it does well. From my initial reading on both Lulu and CreateSpace it seems like I can get most of what I want but can't do it if the book is spiral bound. Also the book is going to be in the 300 to 400 page count range and it is all color images. My question is what have been /. users experiences with the quality, options, and costs of various print on demand services?"
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Mystery of 2000 year super noval solved new myster

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Bob the Super Hamste writes "The BBC is reporting that the mystery of a 2000 year old supernova has been solved. The supernova RCW 86 was observed in 185AD by Chinese astronomers and was visible for eight months. Recently sicentists have wondered how the supernova grew so big. By combining data from the Chandra X-ray telescope and the XMM-Newton Observatory with recent images from the US space agency Nasa's Spitzer and Wide-field Infrared Survey (Wise) telescopes scientists scientists have figured out that the supernova expanded into a relatively empty bubble of space. These empty bubbles of space are typically associated with a core collapse supernova but the core remnant is high in iron which instead is associated with a type 1A super nova. The findings are published in the Astrophysical Journal."
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Public supports geo-engineering

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Bob the Super Hamste writes "The BBC is reporting that there is strong among the public in the US, UK, and Canada for research into geo-engineering with approximately 72% respondents supporting the research. The survey was focused on solar radiation management. The article also mentions the UK Stratospheric Particle Injection for Climate Engineering (SPICE) project which would inject water particles into the upper atmosphere as a prelude to spraying cooling sulphate. Researchers for the SPICE project calculate that 10-20 balloons could cool the global climate by 2C. Also mentioned in the article is the voluntary moratorium on the procedure by the international Convention on Biological Diversity"
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Algae fuel summit

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Bob the Super Hamste writes "The St. Paul Pioneer Press is reporting on the fifth annual Algal Biomass Organization Summit from October 24th through the 27th. The University of Minnesota will be kicking off the summit with a tour of their laboratory at St. Anthony Falls. The University of Minnesota operates an algae growing greenhouse at it's research facility in UMore Park Rosemount MN. The article covers the usual points that is typically grown in warmer sunnier climates and also that algae avoids the food vs fuel debate associated with corn ethanol and soybean bio diesel. An interesting point the article makes is that currently algae based bio fuels do not count as renewable fuels because they are not made from the right type of plant. As usual John Sheehan, science director of the University of Minnesota's Initiative for Renewable Energy and the Environment points out that this is 5 years or longer for high volume fuel production, with emphasis on the longer."
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Is online property real? Lawyer says no.

Bob the Super Hamste Bob the Super Hamste writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Bob the Super Hamste writes "The St. Paul Pioneer Press is reporting on an analysis by lawyer Justin Kwong in the William Mitchell Law Review about virtual property and ownership. Justin Kwong asserts that virtual items are not real items and that you do not own them but only have a license. The analysis stems from a 2008 case of a Blane, MN man who filed a police report for the online theft of approximately $3800 of virtual goods. Justin Kwong compares virtual items to a mug club at a bar where patrons purchase rights to a specific numbered mug but cannot remove the mug from the premises. He does note that if in game items are purchased there needs to be clear language stating:
"the transaction is a license, not a sale, and that traditional consumer protections afforded by sales of goods do not necessarily apply""

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