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Was Turing Test Legitimately Beaten, Or Just Cleverly Tricked?

Coeurderoy Re:The Turing Test Itself is a Load of Crap (309 comments)

A con man tries to con you out of something, Turing didn't, he also was probably the biggest factor in saving everybody's bacon...
He was probably over optimistic, or just very pessimistic (realistic ?) about the level of intelligence most people use when they believe they are thinking .....

about 6 months ago
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Was Turing Test Legitimately Beaten, Or Just Cleverly Tricked?

Coeurderoy better turing test (309 comments)

#!/bin/sh
a[0]=""
a[1]="whaaa"
a[2]="gurgll"
a[3]="whaaa aaa aa"
echo "=== Turin Baby 0.1 prototype ==="
while read q
do
random -e 3
echo ${a[$?]}
done

about 6 months ago
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Why You Shouldn't Use Spreadsheets For Important Work

Coeurderoy Re:What he's really saying is (422 comments)

No, what he is saying is that it is easy to "write" sloppy code for excel and hard to write good code.
And even harder to review it.

It's similar to the reason a) people moved away from basic, and b) basic evolved to be (duck, please no flame) almost usable (I still do not like it, but recognize that it is possible to write usable code in visual basic).

If you want to criticizes him, picking on Piketty is VERY political, "excel" errors are galore in neocon publications, but of course the FT did not find anything not to love there, but saying that just maybe having a small group of people siphoning off all the cash from society is not sustainable for ever does make them nervous and very desirous to find some scab to pick at...

Nevertheless he is right, it would be very good if decision makers would be able to "read the numbers" and not just "massage the numbers".
Something like R or ADaMSoft would drive you to test ideas on datasets and learn from them whereas excel (or calc :)) have a tendency to get you to fiddle the numbers until the taxman aherm the reader sees what you would like them to see...

about 7 months ago
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Ask Slashdot: Joining a Startup As an Older Programmer?

Coeurderoy I'm 10 years older than you ... (274 comments)

I'm 10 years older than you and worked for a variety of startups in the last 20 years, and am just starting in a "new one" yes they are all 20 years younger than I am, but ... somehow they think I can bring something to the table...
Including BTW a large network of contacts ...

About the "cultural thing", you should probably discuss with your familly and negociate that you will be very late about 4 days in each month (but not necessarely friday night)... then decide what you would like to do there night, it could be going to gothic festivals, play pool or snooker, go bowling, organize Maker's event, go to steampunk events, real time go language programming, what ever ...
Pick stuff you like and could convince "them to do", stuff they like and you could tolerate (or even enjoy) doing... things you find interesting and that you could actually organize and be seen as a kind of leader in .. (think tech oriented meetups at meetup.com or similar stuff)

Then try to find once a month an event you can tolerate and that is organized allready...
Organize once a month or every two monthes a meetup or something similar about something techy you care about and invite the rest of the company to attend
Invite everybody once a month to something you find fun (if they do not come it's their problem, just make sure it is something that they just might be interested in ...)
And think about what the fourth "free pass" in the month could be ...
nb: try to find a baby sitter if necessary for these days so that your wife can do whatever she wants also...

Even if you only organize a subset of this plan you will find out that you will have more than necessary time to "network" with the team, you do not need to go clubbing all night (you allready found your wife, and if you are thinking of cheating on her doing it in front of your colleages would be the worst possible idea...)
In office happy hours are not really a problem if you remember that you can also drink a coke without rhum, just explain if somebody is jocking about it that you are going to drive home, and they both your children and the companies investors would rather see you alive tomorrow ...
And other "week-end", holliday activities can be fun & interesting (burning man !! :)) but are not necessary, particularly if you get to speak to the same people "off road" during pub&pool or bowling or the "meetup.com about " event you organize or help organize ...

And at the end of the day, what people care the most is "code that actually works", and "answers to a couple of hard questions" ...

So don't worry if you stay cool you'll do great ....

about 7 months ago
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Google May Be $1 Billion Behind In Tax Payments To France

Coeurderoy Re:So few (199 comments)

In reality there are two issues

the first one is that the large US companies know that at some point they'll be able to get a tax holliday to rapatriate the cash they fleeced from foreign countries and stored in some tax haven.
In theory you have to pay taxes somewhere overly simplifying the issues it means you pay where you are or where your customers are, but if you can hide the money from your customers tax authorities and then wait until your own tax authorities tells you fine, bring the cash we'll make you a discount ... it's "kind of legal" but ...
The other issue is that in constructing the European Union we agreed to have an open market but did not (out ouf misguided nationalism) give up national taxing rights...
So a small country is happy to tax a large company for all the business they do in Europe at a discounted rate, and they can afford it because they have smaller needs for their infrastructure.
But it is not a long term sustainable system.

In the specific case of Google the tax office is doing what they should have done a very long time ago to Microsoft, Apple, HP, ....
it is to say: ok the system is broken and you "can" steal the revenu from your french operation to move it to some place where the tax are lower, BUT you have to do it correctly and charge a realistic amount of money for what ever "management services, IP transfert, branding cost, sales operation, ... " you have "abroad"
if not you are cheating ...

about 8 months ago
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Google May Be $1 Billion Behind In Tax Payments To France

Coeurderoy Re:So few (199 comments)

You confuse taxes on individuals and taxes on companies, BTW the US top tax rate was very close to this until you elected a movie cowboy, I guess all the rich people where fleeing the US in the 60s 70s and early 80s ....

The main reason BTW the government is trying to increase personal taxes is just because international (including very french ones) companies actually manage not to pay any taxes...

about 8 months ago
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Google May Be $1 Billion Behind In Tax Payments To France

Coeurderoy Re:So few (199 comments)

You forgot Microsoft who are real artists in this sport

about 8 months ago
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Peter Molyneux: Working For Microsoft Is Like Taking Antidepressants

Coeurderoy Such a disapointment.. (164 comments)

I must confess I was hoping to learn something along the lines of "microsoft beats small children and eat their puppies" ...
But what he really writes is that startups are more fun than large companies ...

wich is "mostly" true... except when you just have trouble paying the bills because the funding dried up and the business is not quite there...

And what he writes about M$ would be true in most large companies ... (they probably never trusted him enough to learn about the secret rooms where they really eat puppies while concocting new EULA and IP legislation...)

Well good luck to M. Molyneux anyway :)

about 9 months ago
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Creationists Demand Equal Airtime With 'Cosmos'

Coeurderoy Re:What show did they watch? (667 comments)

The fun thing about "inteligent creation" is that the argument is "xyw is too complicated to evolve "naturally" it needs something even more complicated to "make it"...
Of course how the "more complicated stuff" was created does not need any explanation...

But a least it gives some arguments for a compationate God, since s/he does not smite them in anger for keeping on telling him, her, it how to do its job...

about 9 months ago
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Ask Slashdot: Can an Old Programmer Learn New Tricks?

Coeurderoy yes (306 comments)

Although 18 years of programming is barelly adolescence ... (I started with fortran IV because fortran 77 was still being implemented ...
Now let's assume that you want to learn to write Fubarish code, you'll find out that there are at least five major languages/IDEs/Frameworks to Fubar...
Choose one, preferably one of the "bigger ones" and make sure it's activelly maintained...

And then take a deep breath, and know that IT WILL TAKE TIME .... the issue is not that you really need to "learn new paradigms" in most cases it's just rather minor variations of old ones (some time very neat variations, that is the fun part)... the issue is that you "almost understandn but yet it does not seem to make sense"...

The issue is similar to adult learning new languages vs children learning... adults do not really learn slower than children, but they want to express themselves correctly and speak about "interesting things"...
Kid's are happy to say "see spot run, give ball me !", adults feel frustrated by this and have trouble making the initial steps...

So be patient and for instance try something like meteor or angular and try to make an ugly "hello world" app... (or what ever is relevant to what you'd like to build ...)
then "hello world, AGAIN and I'm the best" app...
then "hello "
etc...
at some point after five time more time than you initially thought it will hit you ... "I did it !" ....

    Good luck youngster :)
      (and now get off my lawn ...)

about 9 months ago
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How Do You Backup 20TB of Data?

Coeurderoy Connect a raspberry pi and (983 comments)

Connect a raspberry pi and configure it as a backup server and let it copy all to /dev/null...
Then put aside the money you would have invested in a "better" solution, put it in a safe bank (under your mattress)
and wait until you need to restore something..
Most probably you'll enjoy the money more ...

about 9 months ago
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Interview: Ask Richard Stallman What You Will

Coeurderoy Re:Cell phones (480 comments)

He does not really trust them, and if you put him together with people like this http://www.grain.org/ or that http://www.semencespaysannes.o... (in French)
You'll find that they have lots in common...
Of course he (and other Free Software activists) also use things like planes for instance that are full of "non free" stuff, the position is to use
free software when ever it's possible (and not just "convenient").

Moreover your sentence

This is why the free software movement is garbage. It makes no sense outside the world of software.

makes no sense: many useful things are only useful in their specific fields it does not make them garbage...

And transparence, independence from vendor lock-in, freedom ... makes sense in many "worlds"

about 10 months ago
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Does Relying On an IDE Make You a Bad Programmer?

Coeurderoy Not if the IDE is Emacs (627 comments)

Obviously, of course vi(m) is almost acceptable too ...
or teco, but only if you need to write assembly code (or lisp)

all other IDEs are of course for sisis....

about 10 months ago
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German Chancellor Proposes European Communications Network

Coeurderoy Re:Merkel's virgin soil (197 comments)

It's not so much about the reality of "intrusion" but the "legality"...

Most European citizens do not really care if the NSA knows or not what they do, they DO care if some judge in South Texas can close down their operation because it happens to be "in the US" and thus stops them from serving their European customers.

The US separated the CIA from the FBI (or at least tried) so that the "extraordinary" powers of the CIA to help the US Governement "outside" of the US do not give too much police powers "inside" of the US.
But if through "the internet" a massive ammount of people and commercial interests that are "free to look at" "outside" of the us ends up "inside" and therefore liable to police actions "inside" then there is no balance of power left...

about 10 months ago
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German Chancellor Proposes European Communications Network

Coeurderoy Re:Just a Band-aid (197 comments)

Not really, although some argue that a 2 party systems "converge" toward an optimum (there is an MIT paper on the subject from one of the well known MIT-AI hackers but I can't find it right now), personally I believe it just make rigging the
race easier...

But it is the US citizen's problem to fix...

Angela Merkel is addressing the EU citizens issues...

about 10 months ago
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German Chancellor Proposes European Communications Network

Coeurderoy Re:Pfft (197 comments)

Well in the "best" of cases it would be a "Censitary" Suffrage where only people with enough money would be able to
vote and foreing "voters" need to pay more once to "buy" the vote and another time to "clean it up" and make it look
National....
And this kind of "democracies" do not end up very well...

about 10 months ago
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German Chancellor Proposes European Communications Network

Coeurderoy Re:Someone forgot how the Internet works (197 comments)

Of course it will be "interconnected" the issue is "where will it be possible to host at a reasonable price services to european citizens" and therefore "what law does apply" ...

about 10 months ago
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German Chancellor Proposes European Communications Network

Coeurderoy Re:Pfft (197 comments)

Nice try ...

So because the European governments are just as bad as the NSA we should not change anything and let the NSA go on spying on us ...

So how about we get the right to elect your representatives, senators and presidents after all at the en of the day this activity is costing us money (for instance whenever the US $ gets overprinted and becomes cheaper in practice it has the same effect as a tax on out exportations...

And what did those people say ? no taxation without representation ...

Now pleaqe get off my lawn ...

about 10 months ago
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German Chancellor Proposes European Communications Network

Coeurderoy Re:bunch of tax wasting bullshit. (197 comments)

It is not so much an issue specifically related to privacy, but globally the "Internet" is the "infrastructure" of everything we do... without a powerfull network "in the countries or meta-countries (EU)" over time "everything" migrates to a "cloud" that ends up being where the "biggest, cheapest" infrastructure is i.e. progressivelly the US, and therefore "everything" comes under the reach of the US laws, wich means in effect that for instance "I" end up delegating to US citizens my right to vote, and frankly ... I'd rather not ...

about 10 months ago

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Yahoo "improvement" fail

Coeurderoy Coeurderoy writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Coeurderoy (717228) writes "Yahoo did some "improvement" to their web mail application.
Two problems:
1) it tries to force you to agree to the new rules, basically keeping your data hostages.
2) if fails, you cannot "agree" or "disagree" it bumps back to the pop up fail screen.
Additionally if you try to read the "new conditions" it does not find the page, so you cannot even know what you are agreeing to.

Additionally the imap server refuses to serve the content probably since it "knows" that I have not agreed to sacrifice my firstborn or something like that...

It is probably a transient fail... but it is certainly a cautionary story against "the cloud".
"Shit happens" but when it is on you own infrastructure you try to find an engineer who fix it for you and a couple of hours, maybe even days, when it is "a large cloud providers" you need a lawyer and a couple of years of patience."

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yahoo mail server upgrade sucks

Coeurderoy Coeurderoy writes  |  more than 4 years ago

Coeurderoy (717228) writes "Okay I confess, one of my mail addresses is provided by yahoo.
now from time to time there are issues, and it asks to retry a little bit later or contact customer support...
But it usually falls in place rapidly.

But this time it not only fails to show my emails, but first it tells me:
> You've stumbled upon an ___unexpected___, temporary problem. Performing your action again in a __few moments__ will likely resolve the problem completely. If not, we
> suggest you try re-launching Yahoo! Mail.

> If the problem persists, feel free to contact Customer Care about Error Code 1.

when I try to contact customer support it bluntly tells me:

> Attention:

> We are in the process of upgrading all of our Yahoo! Mail servers as part of our ongoing efforts to give you the best Mail service possible. There is no need to
> complete this form because we already know that you've received this error. It is temporary and should clear up within a couple of hours. If it persists, please do
> come back and let us know. Thanks!

So the issue is not unexpected : they are upgrading, it will not go away in a "few moments" I'm supposed to wait for hours..

And what I find suspicious is that if it is really a planned upgrade, with expected service disruption, how about warning the users ?

So I guess I'll be redirecting some domains, a pity I can't redirect yahoo.com :-)"

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Coeurderoy Coeurderoy writes  |  more than 7 years ago

Coeurderoy (717228) writes "andriva signs the AFUL petition "Non aux racketiciels" http://www.racketiciel.info/ against tied sales
Mandriva gives its support to AFUL's action against sales of bundled software.

http://www.aful.org/presse/mandriva-against-racket ware
When you buy a new computer, you get a set of "freebees", the OS, Antivirus, CD burning, etc...
In practice it is almost impossible for consumers to know the selling price, contracts and conditions of use of these applications and, if they wish to,
The only thing you can be sure is that it is not really free, and you cannot refuse to purchase them.

On average, the price of this software constitutes between 10% and 25% of the purchase price of the computer — that is to say from 100 to 300 Euros. Although the French Consumer Code forbids the sale of tied goods (the computer hardware) and services (software licenses), the situation continues and deprives consumers of real freedom of choice. It artificially prevents the spread of free software to the general public.

The AFUL working group against tied sales launched the petition Non aux racketiciel (No to racketware) in order to challenge the French authorities on this intolerable practice. Since 1999, this working group has accompanied and advised people who wish to claim refunds for the software licenses that they were forced to buy against their will with the computer (racketware). Launched in April 2006, the petition has more than 21,000 signatories and requests only the application of the law: everyone in France should have the choice not to buy what he or she does not want to use.

As UFC Que Choisir (French Union of Consumers) is suing hardware manufacturers and software retailers, Mandriva the largest European GNU/Linux Distribution editor
signed the petition "Non aux racketiciels", along with the principal free software associations and other companies. François Bancilhon, CEO of Mandriva explains :

It is a commitment in accordance with our values, our idea of free software and our mission of promoting Linux. We are in tune with the open source community which supports this action and has asked us to engage ourselves.

Mandriva offers choice to consumers. Today, in countries like Brazil, Argentina or Poland where users have the ability to choose the operating system installed with their computer, PC manufacturers sell tens of thousands of units every month with Mandriva Linux pre-installed.
Pre-installed software can be useful for some customers, but if the competition would really believe that their software could compete in a free market, they would not go through such length to force HW makers and public authorities to accept this practice.

François Bancilhon CEO of Mandriva asks : Why can the French market not also profit from the end of the Microsoft monopoly? Why do the French state and the DGCCRF (French authority for competition, consumer issues and fraud prevention) do not do their jobs?"

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