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Dirty Diapers Used To Grow Mushrooms

Demena Re:All that work (97 comments)

There are degrees of biodegradability. Even gold is biodegradable in the longest term (you use some in your biochemistry). As I said, you have a choice of detergents. Pick the right one.

about two weeks ago
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Dirty Diapers Used To Grow Mushrooms

Demena Re:All that work (97 comments)

You have a choice of detergents. If you use a biodegrable detergent it will not harm the waterways. I've seen the difference on a farm with no 'mains' connections.

about two weeks ago
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Dirty Diapers Used To Grow Mushrooms

Demena Re:English usage (97 comments)

In the end, both.

about two weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:However... (419 comments)

Why? You ask me this? Shouldn't you be asking them? A US judge cannot order Microsoft Ireland to do anything unless it trades in his jurisdiction. Which I don't believe it does. Why should not a judge be required to understand everyone else's law? Every other country is required to understand the US's. All I ask for is reciprocity there. Oh, when are you going to turn over those CIA agents that broke international, Italian and US law by renditions? With a US government willing to kidnap and kill those that it chooses to the US cannot be considered a country that respects the laws of others.

about two weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:customer-centric (419 comments)

Microsoft Ireland would be constrained by european law from exporting the data. Is that not the case?

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:However... (419 comments)

The real issue at stake here is the very notion of cloud storage versus location storage. Not just laws and controls but existence. If I pump something into the cloud then it should be a cloud and where the data actually resides should be obscure at best. I would have thought that best practice for a cloud supplier would be to have everything RAIDed around the planet. Multiple redundancy, only fragments on any particular server.

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:customer-centric (419 comments)

Again you are confusing Microsoft USA with Microsoft Ireland. They are not the same.

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Lol (419 comments)

An Ad hominem. Your admission of defeat is accepted. And I wasn't even competing.

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:customer-centric (419 comments)

Sure Microsoft could. But the court could not order it. As to your chair in Europe, you might own a chair in Europe but what you do with it is still subject to European law. For example, certain historical artefacts may not be imported/exported. Ownership is a limited right.

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:Globalization (419 comments)

Is this why governments all over the world are selling off the infrastructure?

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:customer-centric (419 comments)

Err.... No, No US court could claim ownership or seize a foreign company without going through that companies courts. They might be able to seize Microsoft US but not Microsoft Ireland without due process.

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:More accuratly (419 comments)

The data in question is held by Microsoft Ireland and fully owned subsidiary but separate legal entity. The judge cannot require Microsoft Ireland to produce the data as it is not a party to the case and as a foreign company must hold to the law of the territory where it is registered. So Microsoft US neither hods nor controls the data so the request to produce it is moot.

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:customer-centric (419 comments)

Microsoft US does not own or control the server in Ireland. A fully owned subsidiary, Microsoft Ireland does. They are required to follow EU law.

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:customer-centric (419 comments)

Microsoft Ireland is not a US company. It is incorporated in Ireland. If Microsoft US requested or ordered Microsoft Ireland to supply the data then Microsoft Ireland would be bound by EU law to refuse it. The limit of Microsoft's ability there would be an endless chain of hire and fire if MS Irelands executives and employees.

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:customer-centric (419 comments)

No. The order to produce went to Microsoft US. The data is under the control of Microsoft Ireland, a fully owned subsidiary registered in a foreign country. Since Microsoft Ireland has the legal obligation to refuse the data to Microsoft US, Microsoft US neither owns not controls the data and cannot be compelled to produce it.

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena However... (419 comments)

Microsoft US does not control the data. A separate company (Microsoft Ireland) does. Now it may be a fully owned subsidiary but it is still a separate legal entity. The question here is not what people think it is. Does the judge have the right to demand that Microsoft US instruct Microsoft Ireland to break Irish law. The answer to is no because the data is not in the possession or control of Microsoft US. If Microsoft US were to make the request of Microsoft Ireland the correct (and required) response from Microsoft Ireland would be "Sorry, we cannot do that even though you own us.". So since Microsoft US does not control the data the request from the judge would be invalid. Microsoft US cannot comply with the directive since they do not have direct access in their own right.

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:customer-centric (419 comments)

Because the US constitution requires that international treaties become part of US law when signed.

about three weeks ago
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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails To US Government

Demena Re:customer-centric (419 comments)

Excuse me but you appear to be mistaken. it is written in the US constitution that international treaties become part of US law. Where that introduces contradictions the treaty law applies. And judges have to repeat this. It may not apply in this particular case but it remains true.

about three weeks ago
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Australian Consumer Watchdog Takes Valve To Court

Demena You do not seem to understand (139 comments)

Any "dick move" would be at minimum, contempt of court. That is extraditable and yes, the U.S. And Australia have a treaty. Many treaties. Not all are economic. You have no idea how deep this could go. No one enjoys a shit fight. It would not be allowed to get that far. Most probably this is happening and happening right because the ACCC wants to get up the nose of the horribly consumer unfriendly new Abbot government.

about three weeks ago
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Australian Consumer Watchdog Takes Valve To Court

Demena Re: Good luck with that (139 comments)

Have you any idea of the complexity of international trading laws? None of your hypothetical is possible.

about three weeks ago

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