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Terminal Ballistics and Ferguson

FroMan Re:Ha! Remembered the password... (10 comments)

I'm well aware of the difference between handgun and long gun terminal ballistics.

I evidently mis-read your comment about 9mm and .38 being the same size, which is what I was addressing. .38 is slightly larger, but the larger powder charge behind the 9mm makes it a more effective round. That being said, more effective round is easily eclipsed by shot placement.

And again, a round from a long gun is head and shoulders above any handgun round.

about 1 month ago
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Terminal Ballistics and Ferguson

FroMan Ha! Remembered the password... (10 comments)

All good points.

Though the .38 is actually .356" where a 9mm is .355". It is a minor detail and one thousandth of an inch is irrelevant. Though folks will load .356" for lead in 9mm.

about 1 month ago
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Robo-Gunsight System Makes Sniper's Life Easier

FroMan Re:Laser guidance? (265 comments)

9mm Luger (there is also Makarov, but probably not what you are referring to is somewhat different) is .355 inches. All of the reloading manuals I've worked with (American) have the numbers in inches. Length of cases, cartridge overall length are both in inches. In addition weights are all done in grains (1/7000th of a pound).

You picked a single round you've heard of which has a metric sound, since it is called a 9mm. All of the SAAMI specs are in inches for the 9mm (and I am guessing all rounds). http://www.saami.org/specifications_and_information/index.cfm (review page 21 of the ANSI/SAAMI Centerfire Pistol & Revolver pdf).

In addition, .357, .38, .44, .45, .50 are all calibers named after their diameter measured in inches.

more than 3 years ago
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Japan Earthquake May Have Shifted Earth's Axis

FroMan Re:On the positive side... (253 comments)

More realistically, it come out of your sleeping time.

more than 3 years ago
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2012 Preferences...

FroMan Norris/Palin (10 comments)

See the signature.

A little more seriously, I think Newt might be a decent option. The media will paint him as toxic, but I think he's learned from the early nineties. Had 2010 been a presidential year I think he could have ridden his success from the '90s into the whitehouse.

more than 3 years ago
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GREAT NEWS! Texas Senate Passes Voter ID Bill

FroMan Excellent News (6 comments)

I'd be excited to hear this start being pushed across the country. Somehow I doubt some of the states which need this most will get it. Ill and CA will never see this sort of thing pass.

On a side note, MI has a bill in our house and senate which is looking to remove gun free zones (schools, hospitals, stadiums, >50% alcohol sales) for CPL holders. Sounds like it gets tossed around two years ago, before I was paying attention. But this year the political landscape is looking more promising.

more than 3 years ago
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Amusing

FroMan Re:What about... (50 comments)

Gay marriage and/or equal rights?

Currently gay folks have the right to marry someone of the opposite gender, just like the rest of us. A non-issue. Though, I personally would rather make all unions recognized by the state "civil unions" and let churches choose who gets married. For that matter if I wanted I could get married in a church, live with my spouse, and totally skip the step of telling the government if I wanted.

Prayer in school? Teaching of Creationism in science class?

Forced prayer, perhaps not. However, a class on the Bible or class on religious texts, or whatnot is not forbidden. Nor should it be forbidden for a teacher to have a Bible on his desk, nor for him to read it during lunch hour, nor for the teacher to have informal or extra curricular Bible studies any more so than a teacher running a glee club. As far as teaching Creationism in the class, that should be up to the state/school district. There is no allowance for the federal government to set educational standards or curriculum. Only the First Amendment's prohibition of establishing a religion.

The whole creation of the TSA and Patriot Acts under Republican leadership in the White House?

Patriot Act: US House - (Yeas: 357; Nays: 66) US Senate - (Yeas: 98; Nays: 1) It has also reauthorized since 2010 during a Democrat administration. I would also argue that the Republicans suffered major defeats in 2006 and 2008 for with "little less big government than the Democrats" behavior. If 2010 was a lesson in anything, it was that the Republican party relearned (at least to say) that the populace wants less government.

As to the TSA, I'd much rather see a firearm with fragmenting bullets handed out with each ticket. Or at least give the option if the free market would sustain it. I'm sure some more clever ideas could be offered up by other enterprising folks on how to handle air safety without giving over to a government sponsored frisking (virtual or otherwise).

more than 3 years ago
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Niceties

FroMan Buyout (8 comments)

Hmmm, I have not been happy with the buyout of my company a few years back. We went from a small company to up to about 50. Then bought out and we (of the original company) down to about 10. We've had rounds of layoffs and now we are starting to bring in outsourced help (which are woefully inadequate). Prior to the buyout we had a industry leading product with great client satisfaction and since the buyout we have had a huge drop in customer satisfaction. It is very sad.

I hope yours goes better.

more than 3 years ago
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Congresswoman and Staff Gunned Down

FroMan Re:Ban guns (2166 comments)

Or an car?

more than 3 years ago
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Congresswoman and Staff Gunned Down

FroMan Re:Ban guns (2166 comments)

Handgun rounds are not always deadly, they often lack penetrating power traveling at a fraction of the speed of a rifle round. The famous 1986 FBI Miami shootout has the agents putting multiple rounds (6 in one, 12 in another). Shot placement is probably the number one important factor in single kills. Though even that doesn't assure a single shot kill. For instance, from news reports at this point it sounds like Representative Giffords will survive while even being shot in the head.

So, your argument is wrong, even in the case of a single assailant. If you are in a situation where there are two or more attackers a single shot will be wholly ineffective.

more than 3 years ago
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young hipster, you are old

FroMan Re:The van dyke identifies me as old? (11 comments)

Grow your beard out in November and cut it off at the end of February (or whatever your winter months happen to be). It's the only way to fly. Or something.

Granted even my clean shaven is the beard trimmer without any attachments, so it is still like 2 days growth anyways.

more than 3 years ago
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young hipster, you are old

FroMan I'm gonna be cool... (11 comments)

I've noticed that over the last couple years hair length has steadily increased in the young men coming out of high school and college.

I'm gonna be so cool again some day, once fashion catches up. Long curly hair tied back in a ponytail. Scruffy beard. I have that rugged outdoors man look going for me. When I was back working retail jobs in highschool and college I had the chicks just fawning all over me and my hair. And by chicks I mean old ladies 60 years my senior. It was a traumatic time of my life. But as you can see from the family photo, it is more of an indulgence to inevitability.

more than 3 years ago
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One Giant Cargo Ship Pollutes As Much As 50M Cars

FroMan Re:Could be a problem (595 comments)

Actually, there was one valuable resource which was in high demand. The trees in the new world were particularly unique compared to the majority of trees in Europe at the time, which was height. Trees from the new world which had not been harvested prior to European settlement were much taller and more useful as masts.

more than 3 years ago
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Anti Incumbent Results

FroMan Re:Nothing to add (102 comments)

I've been registered Republican since I started voting. Nor am I likely to change that unless another conservative party comes forward. Strategically it allows me to vote in the Republican primaries and help support the more conservative candidate.

However, in the last election cycle I voted for 1 Republican. The rest were Libertarian and US Tax Payers (Michigan Constitution Party) since they represent my views more closely.

more than 3 years ago
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Anti Incumbent Results

FroMan Re:Nothing to add (102 comments)

I agree with you on the nuclear option. On the gang of fourteen issue, I would have liked to see the filibuster actually forced. Instead of a threat, I want to see a real filibuster happen. I want to see sleeping bags and hear the phone book read. Instead, because of concern of what it would look like in the media, the gang of fourteen effectively ceded ground.

more than 3 years ago
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Anti Incumbent Results

FroMan Re:Nothing to add (102 comments)

Clinton had many Left tendencies, but he also had some practicality to his term. After '94 midterms he compromised with the Republicans.

Obama certainly is Left and will likely continue to push his agenda rather than compromise with the Republicans. And he will likely get support from the majority of the media (which was the real point I was making in this journal) if (hopefully when) the Republican House start using similar tactics that Newt used.

I hope the House doesn't waver when the new reports that the Republicans are trying to shut down the government start coming in. That is exactly what I am hoping for and will help the country most. The new blood probably already knows why they were elected. The old guard establishment of the Republican party however likely will bow to media pressure. We already saw that happen during the gang of 14 with Bush appointments.

more than 3 years ago
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I am backwards

FroMan Re:Yes and No (61 comments)

allow more people to live freer, safer, and more peaceful lives.

One of these is not like the other two. Freer is the only one with which the state should be concerned. It isn't the state's job to ensure an individual's safety or peacefulness beyond the that which they affect others property and life. Perhaps safer and peaceful are your own personal goals, which are admirable, but it should not be the state's role to provide for those goals.

There are certainly ways in which we could proceed which would be considered in line with the original original founder's goals of limited federal government. Each state was considered a testing ground, by such folks, to try various methods of governance. Your suggestion of IRV would be an example, which would not necessarily violate the principles which many of the founders held and be considered progress.

Rolling back many of the infringements on liberty, which is what I think Bill is referring to, would certainly be a step in the right direction even if not considered progress by the left.

Perhaps a reformation (Happy Reformation Day yesterday to all the Protestants) would be a better word to describe the process. The reformation entailed rolling back many of the dogmas of the Catholic church and brought about a large number of advances in theological thought. Sadly many were/are heretical, but many brought about better understanding.

So, I humbly suggest a Reformation Party (instead of the undefined TEA Party, as thought by Bill) and reformation politics be a good description of the goals. Reforming around the principles of the founders, but also applying new methods to ideas consistent with those principles.

more than 3 years ago
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more than 3 years ago

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Anti Incumbent Results

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 3 years ago

We've been told by the majority of the of the media that there was an anti-incumbent feeling nationwide. Lets look at some numbers.

In the house 43 incumbents lost their seats, 2 of them being Republican and 41 being Democrat. In the senate we also have none of the Republicans in the general election losing their seat compared to 6 of the Democrat seats lost (as of this writing, 2 yet to be determined).

The numbers don't look like an anti-incumbent feeling to me. They look like anti-Democrat.

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UN

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 4 years ago

What is wrong with the UN? Israeli soldiers are attacked and they defend themselves and within 24 hours UN is condemning Israel. A month after North Korea attacks a South Korean ship with a torpedo and the UN is discussing condemning the attack, but in all probability won't since they cannot get China to agree.

He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous are both alike an abomination to the LORD. Proverbs 17:15

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TEA Party Event

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 4 years ago

I took the family to the TEA Party event in Grand Rapids this afternoon. It was a beautiful day, sunny and warm. I'd guess about 1500 folks showed up for the event, but I'm by no means trained in counting crowds. I did take a video of the crowd and will actually try to count the crowd if the news reports or the TEA Party website says a number too different from my estimate. Things were already underway when I arrived.

The first speaker we heard was certainly not someone I would want representing myself. She was a bit on the angry side, which one might think is preaching to the choir, but the crowd didn't respond well to her.

The second speaker was more describing an organization, http://www.icaucus.org/ and how they screen candidates that they wind up supporting. It sounds like a great organization, promoting some very sounds politicians. I'll probably keep looking into it.

Before we took off we listened to another presentation by a 17 year old. He was an interesting fellow, had his own radio show at one point. It is encouraging to see younger kids believing in conservative values.

One thing I did notice was there were not many black folks in the crowd. It is something I've heard a lot, that the TEA Party folks are all white and it sort of looked like that in this crowd. Then I looked closer, there were a reasonable number of Hispanic and Oriental folks in the crowd beyond the mostly white folks.

Over all the folks there were happy. My little boy ran around among the crowd with me chasing. There were lots of smiles and giggles. Basically there are a lot of good natured folks who have concern about where this country is going and wish to turn back the tide.

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Reloading

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 4 years ago

I ordered a reloading kit, 9mm dies, and a brass tumbler this afternoon from my local gun shop. I might have been able to get a better deal online by a couple dollars, but this guy has been helping me out a lot recently with shooting questions and research into reloading.

I also picked up a couple hundred primers and bullets. I saved all the brass I shot last year, so I'm in good shape that way. The last component is powder, which I know very little about. With the help from a manual I've started learning about it. And I figure I'll start out with a more or less all purpose powder. When I've tallied up the cost it looks like it should be about ~$.15/round to reload (.04/primer, .09/bullet, .02/powder, reuse brass) compared to the ~$.25/round I usually have been paying.

I'm looking forward to shooting about 50% more this year with reloading. Here is a video of shooting from a couple weeks ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V05okGGPG9k

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Not what is meant...

FroMan FroMan writes  |  about 5 years ago

I cannot imagine this is what is meant to pray for your leaders.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/31/phoenix-pastor-draws-protests-telling-church-prays-obamas-death/?test=latestnews

It is a shame that someone would take upon themselves a congregation and lead them so poorly. This man is not following the scripture. David prayed for his enemies, even the king. We are commanded repeatedly to pray for our leaders in the new testament.

Lord God in heaven, may your will be done in all things. Give us all grace and cover our sins. Lead us according to your will, teach us what is right, that we may be used for your glory. Help us to humbly submit to those you have put over us, acknowledging that your hand is over all creation. Give our leaders wisdom to set a righteous example before us and all the Earth. Bend their will to your own to that righteousness may abound in our land that we might be a light and example as a nation in this world for your glory and praise.

Even that prayer, as feeble as it might be, is how we should pray for our leaders. To pray for their suffering or death is not how Christians are called to pray.

I have no love for Obama's policies. He cares not for the most innocent lives, and is pushed and pulled by many who desire to continue or expand abortion in this country. His policies have rewarded some of the most corrupt constituencies in our country. He is trying to force great changes on our nation which would our founder would abhor. For all that he earns my prayer, not my hate. I will fight his policies where I am able and pray that he sees what is right.

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Seraphina Faith Day

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 5 years ago

God has blessed us with our new born daughter Seraphina Faith Day born Tuesday July 14 3:59 AM, 7 pounds 3 ounces, and 19 inches long. Mother and daughter are both doing wonderful. The labor was very easy and quick for my wife and she is recovering excellent. Seraphina arrived with a voracious appetite, but has been satiated and is now sleeping comfortably.

Pictures are on our website: http://www.crazydays.org in the photo ablum section.

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Twitter

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 5 years ago

I finally signed up for twitter, crazydaysorg is my id. Surprisingly there isn't an option to add a twitter id on slashdot, but there is for every other IM type tool, and even WoW (which I don't play anymore).

On Saturday there I attended a conference with ever other fellow with a laptop twittering or tweeting or whatever it is called. It was so pervasive that there was even a 1/2 hour session on twitter and other social networking sites.

I've heard about it for a while, but never really seen a use for twitter. Well, being all sheep like I decided to sign up cause all the cool kids are doing it.

I'm hoping to make it sort of a "cool links" type tool for myself. To that end, I've followed a couple folks who I think might generate links that I would be interested in such as: nranews, newtgingrich, and timoreilly. Hopefully these folks post links to interesting articles.

I don't forsee me posting much since I really don't have a lot to say. I'll probably mention releases of any of the software projects I am working on. I might post a few other things like links to articles or columns I really like too.

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[friends] + darkpixel2k and Shakrai

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 5 years ago

I've noticed Shakrai for a while when reading main page stories. He has an interesting journal about the Binghamton shootings last week too. darkpixel2k posted a number of times in Shakrai's journal too, all stuff I pretty much agree with.

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[friend] dfenstrate

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 5 years ago

+ Friend dfenstrate

Over all he seems to be a reasonable fellow from the dozen or so posts of his I have read from his user page. What first caught my attention was the pro-gun and pro-castle doctrine stance he took in a thread from today.

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[NTP] Can you guess?

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 5 years ago

Iowa Senator Says AIG Executives Should 'Resign or Commit Suicide'

From the title and what was said, I was pretty sure it was going to be a Democrat. Hating business and saying outlandish things go hand in hand. Well, I was wrong. But, AP made it too easy, as by the second paragraph the party was mentioned immediately.

White House Ridicules Cheney After Criticism

Not really "Name That Party" since we all know who is in the whitehouse. But I am personally upset that we are now a Republican cabal. I much prefered VRWC, even the name sounds mysterious.

However, I do think Cheney should quit playing the Carter role and retire quietly. Unless Cheney is going to be running again, presidents and vice presidents have traditionally stayed out of the political fray after leaving office. Carter and Gore being two modern exceptions to that rule.

Justice Thomas Says Americans Self-Indulgent, Don't Sacrifice

What is wrong with this article? No, it isn't that it is AP posted on Fox News. Fox posts a lot of AP articles.

I like to play a game when reading Fox, which is to skip the source right under the title and read the article and then guess the source. The fourth paragraph told me it was AP. I could tell because the paragraph had nothing to do with the article and implied there was a conservative majority on the court. Conitnuing on in the next paragraph it mentions the confirmation process with Anita Hill's sexual harassment allegations, which again have nothing to do with the title of the article.

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Cool beans.

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 5 years ago

Well, as I mentioned previously, I purchased a gun this week.

I've been watching on gunbroker.com for a Glock 17L or Glock 34 for the past month or so. I finally found a reasonable deal on a Glock 17L and put in a bid (look for the chart about 3/5ths down the page).

As I mentioned before the 9mm and long barrel were the two features I was putting highest on my list. The 9mm for common and less expensive ammo for training, less recoil than a .40 or .45, and also a reasonably effective defense caliber. The barrel is 6.02" long, over 2" longer than many semi-auto pistols. The longer sight distance makes aiming more accurate as the "cone" is smaller.

From the boards I've read, a lot of folks dislike the Glock look. Personally I think they look fine, simple and utilitarian. They are not shiny or gaudy, but rather simple and unimaginative. Folks especially dislike the competition guns, like the 17L and 34 in 9mm, and 24 and 35 in .40. But for whatever reason it doesn't bother me. I guess I find function more attractive than glitter.

So, after winning my auction, I need to do a handful of things. First, I need to go back to the gun shop who will be doing the transfer for me to figure out all of the steps I need to take to take posession of the gun.

http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654-16241--,00.html

According to this, I will need to get a License to Purchase a Pistol. This will cause a NICS check to be run by the FFL (gun shop/transfer agent). The police will do a background check on me and I'll need to answer a Basic Pistol Safety Questionnaire with at least 70% correct. I'll also need to swear before a notary that I am legally allowed to own a pistol. I'm not sure how all of this works with the timing, but hopefully it all works pretty quickly and smoothly.

I've already read over the Basic Pistol Safety Questionnaire, which has a couple of what I would consider "trick" questions. One of them being along the lines of, "The owner must report a stolen pistol within 1 year (t|f)." Well, technically true, since it is actually 5 days, and 5 days being less than a year the discreet set of days by which the owner must report the gun stolen is within the set of 1 year. But I am pretty sure the answer they are looking for is false.

Anyways, while looking around the last couple months, reading about hand guns, safety, and anything else remotely pertaining to handguns I found a number of sites that I really enjoyed.

Most recently is Cornered Cat, a site by a mother of 5 who writes or has written for a couple gun publications. It is very much oriented towards women and self defense, but she also encourages safe gun handling and usage more than any other site I've read. This is a really good site for those with a family and how to be considerate with your spouse.

Christian Gun Owner was on of the early sites I found, mostly because it had a page or two dedicated to Glocks (reloading specifically if I recall). This site really struck a cord with me, as it was shooting with other men from church that really started me on looking into purchasing a handgun. I have wanted to pick up something for a long time, but it was shooting with the guys from church that put me over the edge (that and the timely election of Obama).

The Civilian Gun Defense Blog is pretty interesting. For all of those folks who think guns are bad and only exist to harm folks, this is a pretty interesting list of real situations where a gun owner either protected their life or property against someone. These are folks who did not wait for a policeman to stop a Bad Guy(tm), but stepped up for themselves or others.

I am really looking forward to getting my gun. Once the ground thaws I will start digging out a berm for a homemade range. The layout of our property will work really well for a pistol/rifle range, as we have a gentle slope to shoot at, and after I dig out the berm it will be a pretty level area to shoot into. It will probably take me a few weekends to finish digging, but it will be pretty cool to have a range right behind the house.

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YRO: Look, I'm Michael

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 5 years ago

Please click to get the correct color scheme.

Sure, it has nothing to do with rights online, but I figured if it was good enough of a category for Michael to post his anti-Bush conspiracy theories, it is good enough for me.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/19/report-oklahoma-city-pd-admits-mistake-pulling-man-anti-obama-sign/

Evidently pro-Obama folks think abortion is murder. Who would have thunk it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,488644,00.html

So, for those who are pro-abortion, does this bother you at all? The abortion failed, since the child survived crossing the into the world from the womb.

Was this murder or an abortion?

It is possible for a child to survive when being born after 20+ weeks, though the chances are very low. And since the child had air in the lungs, it obviously breathed by itself.

I think what this story highlights is that life begins at birth is a really lousy definition of life. There is a point at which a child can survive outside the mother on its own, or at least through help from modern medicine. But that point is getting closer and closer to conception. Assuming techonolgy continues to advance, we might even see the a __Brave New World__ decanting children.

The only clear point that we have at which point life begins is conception. The unique and individual (don't be stupid and argue genetic twins) and completely separate DNA begins an individual. At least to modern science we know of no other clearly defining time that occurs in all pregancies.

RGSPCP

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Pistols

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 5 years ago

I have been looking into pistols for the last couple months. Since shooting with some men from church last November I have been researching and reading up on different pistols.

I've narrowed my search down to just a few guns:

- Glock 17L
- Glock 34
- Taurus 24/7 Pro Long Slide

They are all longer barreled pistols which in theory are more accurate, and all in the 9mm family for less recoil. I would mainly consider them to be for using for home defense and target practice. If I choose to carry at some point in the future I will look for something smaller and more concealable, and likely not consider a glock since because of the trigger safety.

From my research I have found that glocks are riskier to reload since the stock barrels are slightly oversized adding to the stress on the brass. But as I am just a noob and without any reloading equipment it isn't much of an issue. Additionally, shooting unjacketed lead bullets will foul the barrel of glocks because of the way the barrel is threaded. This shouldn't be much of an issue either as I'll likely be shooting jacketed rounds anyways.

I've read mixed reviews of the Taurus. It is hard to separate fact from general dislike. Taurus as a Brazillian company had lots of quality issues, but Taurus USA is supposed to have a much higher quality guns. It is hard to figure out if folks are just being "bigots" or if there is still valid concerns with the Taurus.

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God's Blessings

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 5 years ago

Well, the Mrs and I are batting .667*. Our second child is on the way and hopefully to arrive in July, Lord willing. Morning sickness has been much worse this time around (which all the old wives around tell us means it is going to be a girl). We have are really hoping for a girl, but we'll take what comes our way.

The little guy still is having speech issues and understanding speech, so we have had a hard time communicating that he is going to have a sibling in a few months. He has been in a group for children with speech issues since the beginning of the year, but in such short time we have not seen much success. He otherwise seems very intelligent and able to manipulate his surroundings, but speech still eludes him quite a bit.

* 3 months of trying, 2 pregnancies

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Bitter clinging...

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 5 years ago

So, a bunch of men from church got together Saturday to bitterly cling to God, guns, and religion. Since I haven't shot anything since my teen years I figured I'd go along and try out some various guns. I'm interested in picking up a handgun at the moment, since our president elect is likely to try to make getting them more difficult. My personal hunch is we'll see another "assault weapon" bill within the first few months, because scary looking weapons are bad. Then we'll see something for handguns, cause they only serve one purpose, which is to kill people. Finally, if it makes it that far, we'll see hunting weapons targeted.

There were two stations setup, a shotgun/skeet station and a rifle/handgun station. Before we split up one of the men explained the rules and safety pointers. Once we were familiarized with the rules we broke up into groups to head to the respective stations. I went to the rifle/handgun station as I've shot shotguns before and am in the market for a handgun. We were setup across a pond from the targets, at a range of about 50 yards. Certainly longer than I would consider for a handgun distance.

We pulled out the rifles first, which were only 22s. Because of the cold they were not loading well at all from the clips. It took some playing with before I got my first shot off, but I pinged the 4" target from about 50 yards. Of course that was beginners luck as I was only about 75% after that. I might consider picking up a 22 rifle at some point for my rabbit issues, but certainly not any time soon. Over all, very uninteresting.

The pastor's son brought a 9mm. It was about a 4 inch barrel, which seemed pretty short. I'm not sure if he has a CWW or not, but that seems to be more the size I'd expect for carrying. He put in the clip and shot off at the target 2' x 3'. I'm pretty sure he didn't hit the target once, and sunk a handful in the pond. One of the professors tried next. He was a bit more accurate, actually hitting the target a couple times. I loaded up a clip to try it out and put most of them at the foot of the target. The issue was that the sight was low, so I couldn't actually see the target when it would have been centered. I found it was pretty nice, with not a lot of recoil. But I'm not sure my wife would feel comfortable with it, but there are some things you can do for limiting the recoil. This was the gun I shot the most, as it is probably what I would be looking for as a hand gun. I might consider something with a longer barrel around the house, as I'm not sure that carrying about town is really a
concern.

The second handgun I tried was a 45. Thise one certainly had a bit more recoil, and definitely would no be suggested for the wife. It would take a lot of concentration to use this in a defensive situation and be able to hit your target even if they were not moving, at least for a second shot be be any accurate. The trigger on this one was very sensitive. The professor who tried this one accidently shot off twice while only intending one shot because of the recoil and light trigger.

I also tried out a 22 handgun, which was equally unintereting as the 22 rifle. I don't really see the purpose of a 22 handgun as you are not going to be shooting small game with it, nor using it defensively. So it seems more like a toy rather than a useful weapon. I suppose you could use it to put down a rabid racoon, but that seems kinda a niche use.

While I'm not a huge gun buff, I do figure I ought to exercise my right. First, living out in the country I don't expect a cop to be around to help. And relying on a neighbor who wouldn't be able to hear a yell in the first case is no help. I don't expect to ever even need a weapon around the home, but I don't ever expect to need a cell phone to call for a tow truck either, but we keep one around just in case. We even use it for calling other folks once in a while too. Just as I'm sure when we pick up a gun we'll shoot off a few rounds every now and then too.

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Wikipedia Palin Article

FroMan FroMan writes  |  about 6 years ago

As of now, the Sarah Palin article on wikipedia has 2000 revisions since 09:50, 28 August 2008. The Joe Biden article on the other hand 2000th revision would place it 01:27, 29 July 2006.

Interesting. I am sure some of it comes from Biden being more of a known quantity for a longer period of time. But a lot of the revisions I see are fairly minor and often repeated, such as one that changes the heading "Public Safety Commissioner dismissal" to "Abuse of power" and back again, and "Pro-Life" to "Anti-Abortion" and back again.

I did find one revision which was pretty chuckle worthy. Look at the previous revision for the picture of the moose.

[update]
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/30/1858240

It seems I am not the only one who found this interesting. I haven't read the story, but it looks related to what I was observing.

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[relationship] Adding a few friends

FroMan FroMan writes  |  more than 6 years ago

+ Friend jmorris42 - I've noticed his comments regularly while browsing stories. While agnostic, he is rational and seems to call people on their foaming at the mouth Atheism. This fellow also seems to be a voice of reason when it comes to the Left, socialist, globalwarming, hate Bush crowd here on slashdot.

+Friend GeckoFood - This fellow marked me as a friend a while ago. I've been looking at his journal entries every now. He covers a range of interesting topics.

+Friend RailGunner is no more. Long live RailGunner^WNaqamel. Which I always wind up translating in my mind to Gargamel, which is funny since it is his band's name. I get a mental picture of RailGunner dressed up as a cartoon wizard and all sorts of smurfs on the stage with him.

As usual, when I add or remove friends or set foes, I remind folks that a friend gets +1 to their comments, which is often needed to counteract the group think around these parts. And foes get +0. Just because I don't like you doesn't mean I always avoid you comments. Mainly I mark foes so if I ever sustain I nasty crack to the head I've got a good reference point to say, "Don't think like that."

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