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Govt Docs Reveal Canadian Telcos Promise Surveillance Ready Networks

Gadget_Guy Re: So basically the Nazis are taking over (74 comments)

Godwin's Law's purpose is to end a discussion once it reaches a non sensical level of hysteria.

I have addressed this point elsewhere, but while some people use Godwin's Law to say that an argument has gone on long enough once Hitler has been mentioned it is not the actual purpose of the law. It is merely an observation, and as such is still applicable in this discussion's context.

It is also very clear that the person who mentioned Godwin was clearly doing it to be amusing and was in no way attempting to stifle any conversation.

2 days ago
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Govt Docs Reveal Canadian Telcos Promise Surveillance Ready Networks

Gadget_Guy Re:So basically the Nazis are taking over (74 comments)

And as your cited quote said, its application to a discussion of other totalitarian regimes or ideologies is debatable. You may interpret it that way, but it does not actually make it part of Godwin's Law. Your interpretation may guide your usage of it, but you can't actually say that other people's usage is incorrect.

In any case, the reference to the law was purely a humorous statement, and really not worthy of this debate.

3 days ago
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Govt Docs Reveal Canadian Telcos Promise Surveillance Ready Networks

Gadget_Guy Re:So basically the Nazis are taking over (74 comments)

The new, improved, Godwin's Law is: "If anyone says anything about Nazis, I can shout 'Godwin's Law' and shut down the discussion".

That's not a new interpretation; that dates back to the 90s. But it also does not in any way defend the actions of Nazis as you claimed. It was merely (and generally humorously) used as an indication that a thread had exhausted all the valid arguments and had devolved to the old fall back line of the Hitler comparison.

As we have seen here, the original mention of Godwin's Law did not stop the postings here, and nor did it request the end of the discussion (although it has sidetracked it).

The only people who benefit from that are Nazis, because they can shut down any discussion about Nazis.

It does not shut anything down. The word "law" in this case does not refer to rule of law, but rather a universal principle. It is not a serious thing that has any real effect, and nor is it something that is ever really used when actually discussing the Nazis. It is used when something else is compared to them. I think that you would be hard pressed to find any examples of a discussion about Nazism actually being being stopped by the application of Godwin's Law.

3 days ago
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Govt Docs Reveal Canadian Telcos Promise Surveillance Ready Networks

Gadget_Guy Re:So basically the Nazis are taking over (74 comments)

Godwin's Law makes no reference to the aptness of the comparison to the Nazis or Hitler. Here is the law as stated by Wikipedia:

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." - that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.

3 days ago
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Govt Docs Reveal Canadian Telcos Promise Surveillance Ready Networks

Gadget_Guy Re:So basically the Nazis are taking over (74 comments)

'Godwin's Law' in the idiotic modern interpretation, is primarily used to defend the actions of Nazis.

The only problem with that argument is that it flies in the face of the facts. Nobody defended the Nazis. Nobody said anything about wanting to murder all Jews. And as far as I am aware, the Nazis didn't implement surveillance on Internet traffic.

This was the correct usage of Godwin's Law, where a discussion that was completely unrelated to the Nazis was likened to that regime. I think that you have been a bit over-sensitive to the adage.

3 days ago
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Microsoft Introduces .NET Core

Gadget_Guy Re:why would I write to that? (187 comments)

Why would I write to that, when anything it can do, can also be done by non-Microsoft controlled APIs, that are portable to more than just the three platforms they list?

Mono is available on more platforms that those listed, so they will presumably do the same for .NET Core. From Wikipedia:

Mono can be run on many software systems including Android, most Linux distributions, BSD, OS X, Windows, Solaris, and even some game consoles such as PlayStation 3, Wii, and Xbox 360.

It also later list iOS as a targeted platform (I don't know why the summary didn't mention it).

about two weeks ago
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When We Don't Like the Solution, We Deny the Problem

Gadget_Guy Re:Senator James Inhofe (282 comments)

Wow! That's a pretty damning list. Now all you need to do is prove that they are in fact lies. The problem is, your list of lies contain lies of its own. And when it can be found that something was said that turned out to be incorrect, can you prove that those are lies as opposed to the results of early models that didn't have the sophistication of our current models? If you claim that someone is lying, then you are saying that they are attempting to deliberately mislead people.

Being wrong or making a mistake does not prove that deliberate misleading is going on, nor does a handful of claims invalidate the thousands of other claims that have been shown to be correct. Even the scientist who pointed out the mistake that the IPCC made about the glaciers still said that he believed that the errors shouldn't shake people's belief in climate science..

If you do believe that catching someone in a lie disproves what they are saying, what should we think about how you have misreported what people said? You claim that Al Gore said that "Polar ice caps would be ice free by 2010", but what he actually said was this:

Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years.

So instead of the definitive claim that it would happen, he said that just some models predicted that there was just a chance that it COULD happen. A model being inaccurate does not constitute a lie. Misquoting someone to twist what they say into a lie, is actually a lie.

So did anyone really claim that there would be hurricanes more powerful than Katrina? It seems they did claim the number of hurricanes in the Atlantic that are as strong or stronger than Hurricane Katrina will increase twofold to sevenfold but that was for every 1 degree C increase, which hasn't happened the time of Katrina.

I'm getting bored, so I'll skip to the end. Your assertion that every single prediction of the IPCC from before 2007 is demonstrably wrong.

about a month ago
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Microsoft Now Makes Money From Surface Line, Q1 Sales Reach Almost $1 Billion

Gadget_Guy Re: Did they make money on Surface? (117 comments)

The Surface factory pays rent, taxes, electricity and utility. These are all indirect costs, and they are all specifically for Surface.

Does Microsoft own the factory, or do they outsource to a separate company? If they outsource then those indirect costs would already be passed on as a direct cost to Microsoft.

about 2 months ago
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Microsoft Now Makes Money From Surface Line, Q1 Sales Reach Almost $1 Billion

Gadget_Guy Re: Did they make money on Surface? (117 comments)

If you are totalling the revenue for Surface and subtracting the direct costs for Surface, why would you then include the indirect costs that are by definition not specifically for the Surface? It sounds to me like you are desperately searching for bad news here.

about 2 months ago
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Lost Opportunity? Windows 10 Has the Same Minimum PC Requirements As Vista

Gadget_Guy Re:Why still 32bit builds? (554 comments)

I agree with this, they said Vista would be the last 32bit Windows OS, then 7, then 8 and now apparently 10.

Who supposedly said this? It certainly wasn't Microsoft.

However I suppose they're trying to kill off 8 as quickly as possible.

No, the scheduled late-2015 release of Windows 10 will put it at the standard time frame for release dates. Look at the number of days between recent Windows versions: Vista: 996, Windows 7: 1100, Windows 8: 1091 (estimated). Every release some people claim that Microsoft are rushing out a new version, but this is only because they are comparing the OS lifespan to XP, which was artificially long.

Everyone on 8 and 8.1 is getting upgraded to 10, so it may as well be 8.2

No, that was just a silly rumour. There is no doubt that Microsoft will do a special upgrade deal just like they did for Windows 8. If they didn't make Windows 7 free after Vista, why would they do it this time around? Surely those people who really dislike the version of Windows that they are using will be more motivated to give Microsoft money to upgrade than others, so why wouldn't they take it?

about 2 months ago
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Antarctic Ice Loss Big Enough To Cause Measurable Shift In Earth's Gravity

Gadget_Guy Re:Getting kinda tired.... (232 comments)

I'm getting tired of hearing about how all life on Earth will end in a few years unless we vote for just one political party and their pet doomsday cult.

I'm sorry that you are getting tired of this, but in this case you can rejoice! Because nowhere in the article did they state such an absurd line.

There is no point making up quotes to get offended by when you could just comment on the actual story at hand. Your entire post has absolutely nothing to do with measuring the gravitational changes of melting ice.

about 3 months ago
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Antarctic Ice Loss Big Enough To Cause Measurable Shift In Earth's Gravity

Gadget_Guy Re:Chicken Little Global Warming nuts (232 comments)

In complete denial of the FACT that Antarctic sea ice is at the HIGHEST LEVEL in decades, these Global warming cult members keep spreading the blatantly false propaganda.

Does the expansion of sea ice mean that the total volume of sea and land ice has gone up? Does it even mean that the volume of sea ice has gone up or is it just being spread thin?

You have cherry-picked a single variable that has gone up and ignored the bigger picture, and then made the outrageous claim that it is the people who actually measure the total ice that are spreading false propaganda.

Answer one question: has the volume of land ice gone up or down? If the answer is down, why is it so unimportant for you to mention this inconvenient fact?

On second thoughts, we can ask an even easier question. Has the total volume of ice gone up or down? According to the article, the gravitational measurements show that it has gone down. Why are you in complete denial of this FACT?

about 3 months ago
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Antarctic Ice Loss Big Enough To Cause Measurable Shift In Earth's Gravity

Gadget_Guy Re:The last sentence in the summary... (232 comments)

The problem is that this is not intended or presented as a proof of climate change. It is merely measuring recent gravitational changes showing the affect of the reduction in ice. The article does pre-suppose that any melting of ice would be the result of climate change. You could certainly argue against that assumption.

But what you can't argue against is the fact that the ice is melting at all, although that doesn't stop some people here from cherry-picking one particular type of ice (sea ice), saying that it has expanded as if that is the complete argument against the total ice loss.

about 3 months ago
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Netflix Now Works On Linux With HTML5 DRM Video Support In Chrome

Gadget_Guy Re:Why is (201 comments)

To get over this endless debate, we just need to define "care" properly.

That is correct, but it is not the definition that you used. From the dictionary:

care (noun)
1. a state of mind in which one is troubled; worry, anxiety, or concern: He was never free from care.

By using this definition, it is not possible to go negative.

about 4 months ago
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Crytek USA Collapses, Sells Game IP To Other Developers

Gadget_Guy Re:Awkward (121 comments)

It's not really surprising (to me, anyway) that Crytek is failing as a publisher. Homefront was the most generic FPS ever made.

Homefront was originally published by THQ. Crytek just bought the IP after THQ went under. It can hardly be cited as a symptom of problems at the company (apart from the decision to buy it in the first place rather than just make their own similar game).

to this day, I've never heard anyone talk about Crysis outside of using it as a benchmark

There are plenty of people who liked the original Crysis (at least the first two thirds of it). I'm one of them. It has overwhelmingly positive user ratings on Metacritic. The sequels were less well received.

about 5 months ago
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Firefox 31 Released

Gadget_Guy Re:Spyware companies will love it (172 comments)

The average user shouldn't be blanket disabling Javascript, as doing so will break 99.9% of the internet (including this commenting system).

That last part is not true. This reply was made with Javascript disabled. Just go into the options and switch to "Classic Discussion System (D1)". The only part that requires scripting is if you want to look at the individual mods by clicking on the message score. The rest (including performing moderations) work fine.

about 5 months ago
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When Beliefs and Facts Collide

Gadget_Guy Re:quelle surprise (725 comments)

Finding non-scientific statements by politicians is trivial.

Who said anything about scientific statements? This was about the Kyoto agreements and the like.

As for you, I don't care to prove you wrong.

Well, it would also be to prove you right. Remember, it was you who brought up the issue of looking "into any data that might support (or discount) it."

about 5 months ago
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When Beliefs and Facts Collide

Gadget_Guy Re:CAGW is a trojan horse (725 comments)

You're giving me the impression that you think that any study not matching global warming is wrong. On what grounds ? Are they fudging their numbers ? How do you know ?

I am not giving that impression, but just to be clear I categorically state that any study not matching current global warming theories is to be accepted with the same cautious scepticism as any paper that conveniently matches the theories. This is why we need to have lots of studies to act as checks and balances.

I find that it is actually quite satisfying to point out the mistakes in a study which arrives at the same conclusion I have, because I know that I am being even handed and not guided by any bias.

Scientific findings that are contrary to existing theories or even your own beliefs should not be feared, but instead should be a source of excitement as it means that we are collectively fine-tuning our knowledge of the universe. It also generates a lot more activity in the scientific community.

As for my use of the word denialist, I stand by it even though I should use the correct term denier. The only people to bring up any negative connotations are the denialists themselves as they attempt to sound more reasonable and open minded. But why? It can't be because it sounds like holocaust deniers because I didn't use that term - I said denialist. I have no problem with true sceptics. The entire scientific principle is to be sceptical of everything and to test each other's works. If you have questions about the science then it is quite reasonable to ask them. But denialists are those who belittle scientists (they are only in it for the money) or science itself (it's a religion), and when provided with answers to their questions just keep asking the same questions again or instantly change to a different topic. A sceptic will have an open mind, while a denialist will never change their mind and will always disbelieve global warming despite all evidence presented.

I have seen someone say here on /. "I'm not a denier, I just deny climate change". It's funny that people only have problems with the noun and not the verb.

about 5 months ago
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When Beliefs and Facts Collide

Gadget_Guy Re:quelle surprise (725 comments)

The problem is that it is almost impossible to prove that nobody thinks that signing an agreement is all that needs to be done, because to do so I would have to provide statements from every single one of those people.

However, you can disprove me in an instant by showing a single statement where someone makes such a daft claim. The one link that you did provide did not show this, as it discussed the further actions that were required beyond just making an agreement. It really is a demonstration of my claim.

about 5 months ago
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When Beliefs and Facts Collide

Gadget_Guy Re:CAGW is a trojan horse (725 comments)

Once again, this is an irrelevant argument designed to confuse the issue without having to actually make a claim that needs defending. It is the perfect strategy for the denialist movement. It can be stated in a single sentence, and people think that it is funny to do so. It is the same technique that advertisers use to create brand awareness. But have no doubt that it is a cynical ploy to capture people's imagination when facts can't be used.

The reason why there are multiple names for this is that the average person doesn't understand the difference between global warming and local warming. It if is a cold winter then they think that the globe must be cooler, when it may just be a symptom of a more active climate moving air from the cooler parts of the world to where they are.

It is not that warming was the wrong word to use, as you claim. Neither is the word change, because if it is warming then it must be changing. Climate disruption is not a common term for this, I don't think that it will catch on because it is stupid.

about 5 months ago

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