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Hatfield56 Re:A+ = F (306 comments)

I understand they are rather silly certifications, but if they get you work, they are not silly.

more than 2 years ago
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Hatfield56 Re:Consulting (306 comments)

Yeah, the three years dead thing is an issue. I've continued to code, on my own. I have the latest (but one) of .NET; keep up with C# and Java (to a lesser extent). As for professional contacts, I've maintained them; I have great references, but with a dead economy for the rest of 2009 and a lot of 2010, I had to do other things.

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Hatfield56 Re:Cut your own trail (306 comments)

I was 100% self taught. I studied asm going to work on the subway. I've had a few little courses, all totally a waste of time

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Hatfield56 Re:Built up your own business? (306 comments)

Sad, right? But that doesn't change the facts, unfortunately. Things are what they are.

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Hatfield56 Re:Been there, done that (306 comments)

Many people have wrote about A+ and I'm really glad I got the chance to ask about it. Do not want to waste time. For me, hair dye looks like hair dye. I've been white since I was 40 and I once tried it and it actually looked purple in certain lighting. Extremely embarrassing. But doing little jobs for people so I can check that "working" box is also a great idea.

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Hatfield56 Re:What do you have to offer an employer? (306 comments)

First off, I would love to teach. I'm pretty sure I have a knack for it but...well...in the NYC area, I'm not so sure. With the downturn, there are a zillion ex-programmers already teaching. When I was let go, I think I spent like a year in a state of shock. I should have started looking at soon as they told me (they gave me a month; I had to train my replacement, from India, who sat next to me. That was enjoyable.) Government jobs are also a great idea. I will definite check that out.

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Hatfield56 Re:Failure to launch (306 comments)

Your points are well taken and I've seen that where I worked. My mistake (maybe) was not going that route. I always thought having hard skills made me more unreplaceable, but of course it was just the opposite. I've managed teams for years at that company; my last position there was, official, a Systems Analyst (which I loathed).

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Hatfield56 Re:What job are you looking for? (306 comments)

I'll check out PostgreSQL. As for javascript/html, for some reason, I've found them not all to my liking. I'll look into dice, as well as teksystems and accenture. I actually come across as being in my 30s on the phone. I've looked into PHP and kind of liked it, but I thought, I know C# and Java and SQL, why change now?

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Hatfield56 Re:You're better off on your own.. (306 comments)

The consensus here on A+ is very helpful. I don't want to waste more time on that for sure. iPhone or Android programming is certainly something to consider (my phone is an Android). I started looking at it just out of curiosity. As for HFT, my assumption regarding such work is that they very much want someone who's done it before. And I thought it was mostly C++.

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Hatfield56 Re:Teaching (306 comments)

I have. I approached the school where I got my paralegal certificate and suggested a couple of programming courses, one that would take a total novice to writing an app that front ends a SQL database in a year. They *may* still be interested. I'm in NYC and teaching in public schools is totally out of the question; even private schools are difficult to get into. I've thought about freelance or just advertising on the web.

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Hatfield56 Re:Greeter at walmart... (306 comments)

I know next to nothing about A+ or Network+. I just thought, was it worth it? I'm not afraid to do hard, dirty work. I have a big ego but I don't mind being at the bottom either. I know a lot more than recent grads, of course. I've learned good coding practices the hard way, by screwing up a lot, but I also know how much client count on us to do it right and also do it in a way that can be updated or modified later on.

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Hatfield56 Re:Expectations (306 comments)

My expectations: Kind of funny. My first job with Ashton-Tate in 1987 paid me $60/hour and I was told don't bill for more than 24 hours in a day. If I pulled in $40/hour now I'd be overjoyed and grateful.

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Hatfield56 Re:Contracting... (306 comments)

I could totally survive a clearance check. Even my DMV abstract (driving record) is completely blank. I will look into consulting.

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Hatfield56 Re:A+ (306 comments)

I've written a couple of encryption applications (C#, trying to move them to C++); that's the kind of thing I like. One encrypts a file and stores it in many bitmaps. I also think I've written an unbreakable encryption application but doesn't everyone think that?

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Hatfield56 Re:IT jobs at 60. (306 comments)

Actually, my insurance premium is $0. I cover it all. That should mean something (but it probably doesn't.)

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Hatfield56 Re:Asbestos Removal (306 comments)

I feel so much better now.

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Hatfield56 Re:Old Timers (435 comments)

I was in IT for 24 years, starting in 1985; worked for a lot of large companies and was highly sought after. Following a typical vector, asm, C, C++, VB. .NET, T-SQL, PL/SQL, JSP; managed some sizeable projects for many years, never stopped coding. Actually I think I'm an excellent coder. Reliable. Then, job was outsourced in mid-2009 and I, stupidly, partly because I had hardly ever looked for work (always came to me), just took some time off; first big vaca in decades. Error! Well, that was it. Lots of bites on Monster, etc., but between not currently employed and as soon as they did some math, no call backs. Oh yeah, one, I was yelled at. I'm > 60. So, now I have to change my field to paralegal. Hopefully, that will be a bit better; who knows. All I can say is, give a job hunt a whirl but after 6+ months of rejections, start rethinking. Grim news. (and of course 50 is not >60; >60 is the kiss of death, at least for me.

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Hatfield56 Hatfield56 writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Hatfield56 writes "I've been in IT since the mid-1980s, mainly working for financial institutions. After 16 years at a company, as a programmer (Java, C#, PL/SQL, some Unix scripting) and technical lead, my job was outsourced. That was in 2009 when the job market was basically dead. After many false starts, here I am 3 years later wondering what to do. I'm sure if I were 40 I'd be working already but over 60 you might as well be dead. SO, I'm wondering about A+. Does anyone think that this will make me more employable? Or should I being a greeter at Walmart?"

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