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Study: Seals Infected Early Americans With Tuberculosis

I'm New Around Here Re:But but... (74 comments)

Glenn Yarbrough, The Mermaid Song.

Don't go swimming with a mermaid son, if you don't know how to swim.

2 days ago
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Study: Seals Infected Early Americans With Tuberculosis

I'm New Around Here Re:But but... (74 comments)

On a related note: if someone offers to have sex with you in a bucket of fish, dive in.

2 days ago
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Ebola Quarantine Center In Liberia Looted

I'm New Around Here Re:Oh yes... (358 comments)

He forgot the [Sarcasm] tag.

4 days ago
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Ebola Quarantine Center In Liberia Looted

I'm New Around Here Re:Forget the Purple Hearts (358 comments)

In addition to the other replies, please remember that the cornerstones of our own technology came from the Middle East. They aren't called "Arabic numerals" for quaintness.

4 days ago
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Ebola Quarantine Center In Liberia Looted

I'm New Around Here Re:Darwinism as a team sport. (358 comments)

While keeping the yearly Darwin Award, Maybe it's time to create a World Darwin Championship, every four years. With an opening ceremony, different disciplines and medals, a Shakira song, vuvuzelas,...

You can keep your smut to yourself. The last thing I want to see on my TV is Shakira's vuvuzela.

And I think you spelled it wrong.

4 days ago
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Ebola Quarantine Center In Liberia Looted

I'm New Around Here Re:Niggers. (358 comments)

I find it funny that this thread has so many replies, when similar titled ones usually only get a few responses.

4 days ago
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The Billion-Dollar Website

I'm New Around Here Re:Silly rabbit, hypotheticals are for kids. (194 comments)

This is almost getting amusing, if only you weren't such a broken record. You think I am at fault because you cannot understand any system other then your own. You are still talking about an assumed doctor's oath, when I have shown there is not need to assume an oath. Yet you still hang your argument on it, and then say I am the one who can't handle reality.

Yes, we live in the real world, not the mental exercise I used as a mere explanation of my views on a particular point in a large debate about human rights. However, you are saying that my views are only valid in that mental exercise, not the real world. My views are my own, and I have the right to them the same as you have the right to your views. The real difference here, is that I acknowledge you have the right to your own views, even though they are in opposition to my own.

You are trying to deny my right to my own views, and using the 'oath' and 'hypothetical' arguments to force me to change my views so that they match your own. I have seen many people like you, over the 20 years I have been having these sorts of discussions, both online and in real life. You are so convinced of your own superiority and rightness, you can't even comprehend someone else's viewpoint enough to intelligently argue about it.

You have to focus on one or two insignificant (and incorrect) points, and keep bullying your way through until your opponents either give in and leave the discussion, or you push them to lash out at your intransigence, and then you can declare the moral high ground over some 'mere unenlightened savage'.

about a week ago
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The Billion-Dollar Website

I'm New Around Here Re:Silly rabbit, hypotheticals are for kids. (194 comments)

Wow. That's the best you can do? That's the most pathetic insult I've received all year.

As for my 'partisan bias', I've stated on this forum and others that I voted for Mr. Obama back in 2008, and for Jill Stein of the Green Party in 2012. I don't regret either vote.

So go stuff your preconceived notions of my political and social bias right back up from where you pulled them.

about a week ago
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Why the Universe Didn't Become a Black Hole

I'm New Around Here Re:Summary (109 comments)

Does it matter which brand of vacuum? Or which style?

about a week ago
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The Billion-Dollar Website

I'm New Around Here Re: Technical People (194 comments)

It's called Medicaid and Medicare.

Many doctors no longer accept patients covered by such programs.

about a week ago
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The Billion-Dollar Website

I'm New Around Here Re:Silly rabbit, hypotheticals are for kids. (194 comments)

Wow. That's a fair amount of over-reacting to a common punchline, given when one is tired of suffering a fool. Also, it is not my fault you cannot fathom the reason people use manufactured scenarios to explore or explain human nature. You are the one who has consistently been showing your lack of mental abilities, insisting that an oath precludes a person from acting in their own interest, rather than in the interest of others, simply because you say so. Especially since I pointed out that the person may have never given such an oath.

If there was no oath, your argument is simply a lot of hot air. You can't accept that fact. You keep blustering on about my hypothetical, as if your own point is anything but partisan ravings against a point you don't agree with.

That is why I said good day.

about a week ago
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The Billion-Dollar Website

I'm New Around Here Re:in other words (194 comments)

So when you said:

The non-obama-care insurance isn't providing an answer: They limit medical care to $200,000, which eliminates all complex surgery.

what you meant was that some people had insurance that only provided the amount of coverage they were willing to pay for.

I don't see how that makes the point you are trying to make. People had choices on what they wanted for insurance. Many people specifically chose jobs based on insurance coverage, willing to take a lower paying job that had higher insurance coverage. The $200,000 amount is something you pulled out of thin air, because there was no such ceiling across the board, either at every insurance company, or on every policy, or from every employer offering benefits.

Were there annual limits and lifetime limits? Yes. If you don't know why then you don't understand insurance. It's that simple.

Has obamacare outlawed annual and lifetime limits? Yes. Which is why nearly everyone is seeing their premiums increasing. If the insurance company has no limit on possible expenditures, they must take in a lot more money to be able to cover those future costs. So now, in that regard, all policies are equivalent to the highest priced plans that corporate executives have had, with the pricetag to match. Everyone now gets the privilege of paying for very expensive insurance, because people like yourself don't understand insurance.

If you want to discuss the issue, I would be more than willing to do so. But when you make idiotic statements like "insurance had a $200,000 cap" which eliminated "complex surgery", I will call you out on them. If you instead want to focus on your own fantasy world, in opposition to the one I laid out, what do you need me for? Go create your own version of history where people had no choice in their own insurance.

By the way, my scenario was not about insurance. It was about human rights. But don't let that fact get in your way.

about a week ago
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The Billion-Dollar Website

I'm New Around Here Re:in other words (194 comments)

I believe you and I have the right to provide for ourselves. I don't believe we have the right to force others to provide for us.

I'm not a big believer in rights, per se. But I don't really have a problem with socialized medicine either.

Thank you for the reply.

I've said before that I would not oppose basic health care being taken care of by a national health system. Areas like car accident victims, broken bones, heart attacks, allergic reactions. Routine ER situations. But if I am to support that system with my tax dollars, the people who use it have to do their part to try to live healthy lives. Drug addicts and alcoholics get treatment then go into rehab, overweight people are put on a healthy diet and exercise regimen, and so on. But since that would violate people's rights, and I can't force my beliefs onto others, even when they are using my tax dollars, I don't support a public health system.

We have the safety net of welfare/food stamps/medicaid for the poor. We have insurance that is easy to get for the rest, with only a few exceptions that are truly 'uninsurable' due to birth defects or genetic disorders. There are still ways to get them covered by insurance, since large corporations and governments provide comprehensive insurance to all employees and their dependents. I would even be ok with the government 'hiring' the uninsurable just to get them onto the insurance available to federal employees, or making a version of Medicaid specifically for the people with high-cost conditions.

My views aren't as draconian as my hypothetical situation may suggest, since we of course are not the last 500 humans left alive. But given the waste, fraud, and abuse of the current system, I just don't see the benefits of making it even more vast with less control over it.

about a week ago
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The Billion-Dollar Website

I'm New Around Here Re:in other words (194 comments)

... I believe you and I have the right to provide for ourselves ...

So you've provided yourself with $500,000 for a liver/heart transplant or for a lifetime of $300/month drugs that may be required for your continued living? The non-obama-care insurance isn't providing an answer: They limit medical care to $200,000, which eliminates all complex surgery.

So, your assertion is that before obamacare, no complex surgeries were ever done? Or only the rich 1% were able to have transplants? Really?

This is the biggest problem with trying to discuss something substantive. Idiots throw out comments like yours, thinking they made a valid point. When a little reasoning quickly shows they are moronic statements with no connection to reality.

about a week ago
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The Billion-Dollar Website

I'm New Around Here Re:Silly rabbit, hypotheticals are for kids. (194 comments)

Your whole argument is based on a doctor who took an oath. What about someone who has medical knowledge, but never took an oath and became a practicing doctor? Would he or she still be bound by your beliefs in what doctors should do, or could be forced to do? That is a very weak linchpin to base a human right around.

As for whether or not I should use a hypothetical situation to prove my point, isn't that a common way of teaching in college classes? Not simply saying a rote answer, but making people think through a situation and its consequences? I know I'm not the first person to envision an "isolated group of humans" scenario. As for it being "fair", I never claimed it was. I said that Pascoea offered a challenge in a fair way. I answered in a manner I felt appropriate to impart the reasoning behind my simple answer of "No".

Good day, sir.

about a week ago
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How California's Carbon Market Actually Works

I'm New Around Here Is this really a surprise (97 comments)

I mean, really. Who thought that would never happen?

about a week ago
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The Billion-Dollar Website

I'm New Around Here Re:Silly rabbit, hypotheticals are for kids. (194 comments)

Oh, you can't go there. The obamabots will get you for sure.

It's sad that they simply don't care that the person elected to uphold the Constitution has said that he doesn't believe in it, and has acted consistently to prove he doesn't believe in it. He actually doesn't believe in the document that created the office that he fills.

about a week ago
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The Billion-Dollar Website

I'm New Around Here Re:Silly rabbit, hypotheticals are for kids. (194 comments)

Hypotheticals may be for kids, but your response is for mental patients.

Is it wrong for a person to be bound by his or her own word? When do they get to break or bend it?

When the rest of humanity disappears for no known reason.

Or do you expect the 500 people to still pay their taxes and obey all traffic laws as well as oaths given to professional associations that no longer exist?

If doctors all swore an oath to provide medical care, why are they insisting people pay them for that care? Your assertion is they must provide the care whether they get paid or not. Have you just solved the problem of health care? Simply insist doctors all work for no pay because their oaths outlive humanity?

Pascoea asked a particular point, which I responded to. I don't agree with his view on this one issue, but at least he has the integrity to offer a challenge in a fair way. Your response is simply brainless drivel. "Doctor's can't violate their oath, because we learned in kindergarten that's bad." The most ridiculous part of it is that if the doctor violates their oath, they are not allowed to practice medicine anymore. Which is the exact situation that my hypothetical was exploring.

about a week ago

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