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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:You guys are completely paranoid (375 comments)

They wouldn't really have to leave a trap. They could just build a database of hash values of the files already available there.

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:Question for any budding lawyers out there (375 comments)

Yes, but when that MP3 is bit-for-bit identical to the version of the song that was downloaded millions of times from bittoreent (or gnutella etc.) you are going to have a tough time arguing that you got it from some other source.

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:No (375 comments)

Because their strategy has been to go after the big fish, people with large numbers of files hosted. But now, if they have access to a centralized database of what music files people have on their computer it becomes low hanging legal fruit.

more than 3 years ago
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InnovATIONS Re:One more, cannot prove you shared it... (375 comments)

The argument will be made that the leecher made one unauthorized copy of the song...the copy that came from the file sharing service to their computer's disk. It may be just one little copy but it was clearly the leecher's intentional action that created it. Copyright infringement is in the copying.

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:So this is Apple's laundry service? (375 comments)

Well I guess in either way it is a laundering service. The real issue is in what way. The optimists think that Apple will launder all of the dirty laundry for $24.99. The article thinks that you will store all your laundry for $24.99 and then the RIAA laundry inspectors will accuse you of having hundreds or thousands of dirty shirts. And then Apple will allow you to clean that laundry and get rid of the laundry inspectors for just 99 cents a song!

more than 3 years ago
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InnovATIONS Re:Even I'm not sure whether what I have is legal (375 comments)

Well, presuming that your CDs never went up to or down from a file sharing service then their signatures are most likely unique and would not raise suspicions. But also bear in mind that Apple's 'minutes, not weeks' statement would not apply to your collection.

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:A little research would cut through this cr*p (375 comments)

Lala was small potatoes, I believe that Amazon de-dupes files purchased through Amazon (which are undeniably legal) but other files are just stored. Google also does just storage. The difference is with Music Mach is Apple is keeping a big central database of who has what.

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:Lawsuits (375 comments)

You realize of course that if Apple banned all RIAA member publishers then iTumes would be essentially empty?

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:Question for any budding lawyers out there (375 comments)

I am not an RIAA lawyer but I suspect that their argument will go like this: In order for iTunes Music Match to find the song it had to be on your disk. In order for it to be on your disk you made a copy of the song without the rights to do so. The act of making that copy was a violation of copyright. You had 10,000 such files. But then out of the shadows steps your hero Steve Jobs! He offers that with one click you can make all ten thousand copies legal and make the RIAA go away! And it will only cost you $9,900!

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:No (375 comments)

What the RIAA would argue is that the act of downloading the file was making a copy. It was taking the song that was on the file sharing system and making a copy on your disk. In other words the existence of the file isn't the problem, it is the act that created the file.

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:The author lost me at MD5 (375 comments)

Exactly, It isn't something that would snare a security-focused used, but they would most likely never let anybody be scanning their system in the first place.

more than 3 years ago
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InnovATIONS Re:The author lost me at MD5 (375 comments)

MD5s can possibly be reverse engineered or cracked, but the chances of two files in the wild accidentally having the same MD5 are beyond astronomical. MD5's are perfectly acceptable for doing file comparisons. Besides MD5s were just being used as an example. They may be using SHA or something else.

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:Apple Excels at Customer Service (375 comments)

Apple is the largest music seller on earth. They believe that they lose tons of money each year to file sharing. If they could have a way to get that, and make the RIAA look like the villain doing so, why not?

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:Ridiculous (375 comments)

Or both. They might find billions of illegal copies, the RIAA sends them intimidating letters, and then Apple steps them to offer them a one click solution to all their problems by just buying the music?

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:One more, cannot prove you shared it... (375 comments)

Yes but if they detect billions of shared files, and intimidate all of them into buying them for 99 cents...how much money have they made? On the other hand if it is a watermarked MP3 then they will know the original sharer.

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:You guys are completely paranoid (375 comments)

That is exactly the test that the author of the article did: Two computers, same software, same version, same settings, same CD, different MD5

more than 3 years ago
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Might iCloud Be a Musical Honeypot?

InnovATIONS Re:Why don't you wait for the TOS... (375 comments)

In general any TOS or any privacy policy can be punched through by a court order. The bottom line is that if they are storing the data (which in order to have Music Match work as advertized they do) then the RIAA could subpoena it.

more than 3 years ago
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InnovATIONS Re:FUD? (375 comments)

Actually it would apply to any service that did de-duplication across users, but since iTunes Music Match is specifically oriented to music files it provides what one might term a much richer vein of ore for the RIAA to mine.

more than 3 years ago

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Could Amazon do Free Same Day Delivery in CA

InnovATIONS InnovATIONS writes  |  about 2 years ago

InnovATIONS writes "Amazon is opening two new warehouses in California. Jeff Bezos says he wants faster delivery. How might it be feasible for Amazon to do free same day delivery and how might it affect retailers and UPS/Fedex/USPS?"
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Is iCloud Music Match a Trap!

InnovATIONS InnovATIONS writes  |  more than 3 years ago

InnovATIONS (588225) writes "By its nature iCloud Music Match must scan your computer and send personally identifiable information regarding your music files. That would appear to be just what Apple, or the RIAA, would need to detect people with illegal copies."
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