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Will Google's Dart Language Replace Javascript? (Video)

MochaMan Dart is an ECMA standard (180 comments)

Dart was submitted for ECMA standardization early this year and is now ECMA-408.
[Disclaimer: I work on the Dart team]

about 2 months ago

Google Releases Dart 1.1

MochaMan Re:25%?? (161 comments)

Question for you- why compile to Javascript rather than a new interpreter directly in Chrome?

To allow for the widest possible cross-browser app compatibility today. Dart currently support all modern browsers (back to IE9) - forcing users to use Chrome would divide the web, which is the last thing we want to do. That said, we're working on getting the VM into Chrome, but really that comes down to an added performance boost. We expect most developers will target JS to ensure cross-browser compatibility. It's entirely possible (encouraged, even) to deploy both.

The last thing I want to do is write in one language, compile it to another, then need to debug across language boundaries.

The good news is that you can write and debug purely in Dart and test in Dartium (Chromium + DartVM) with no compile step today. The dart2js step is a deployment step. Obviously, you'd want to do the usual testing of the final compiled output in a few browsers just like you'd do with a JS app today, but for development you can live entirely in Dart.

about 8 months ago

Google Releases Dart 1.1

MochaMan Re:25%?? (161 comments)

It really doesn't answer the question of what happens when Google proper loses interest and pulls funding. Does it survive on its own, or vanish?

There's really no possible satisfying answer to that question without knowing the reasons for the hypothetical future loss of interest/support on Google's part. One could ask similar questions about any language with equally unsatisfying answers.

The project is open source and headed for ECMA standardization - both of those are both very positive from the point of view of future continuity. The best anyone can answer is that if such a situation ever should come to pass, the project is in the best possible position to have the community/someone else pick up the torch. If that's not satisfying enough, then waiting and watching is perhaps the best strategy.

about 8 months ago

Google Releases Dart 1.1

MochaMan Re:25%?? (161 comments)

Dart team member here. The Dart project, like Chromium, is being run as a fully open source project accepting patches from Googlers and non-Googlers alike. We've also begun the ECMA Standardization process, meaning that like JavaScript we'll have a open standard that anyone can implement to. In terms of Dart users, here's a list of some. Hope that answers your questions!

about 8 months ago

Sergey Brin Says Facebook, Apple and Gov't Biggest Threats To Internet Freedom

MochaMan Obvious, not insightful (500 comments)

The fact that Facebook and Apple are Google's competitors in certain markets -- namely advertising and mobile eco-system -- doesn't diminish his point that a walled-garden, unsearchable web (Facebook) is a poor substitute for what we had 10 years ago, and that a walled-garden mobile eco-system that ties you to a single hardware vendor (Apple) is similarly no good. Google+ posts are searchable on Bing or any other search engine and if you don't link your Samsung Galaxy SII, you can replace it with an HTC Rezound or a Motorola Razr Maxx without losing your apps or data.

You haven't addressed the points he makes about Facebook and Apple, nor his concern about governments imposing restrictions on use of the internet and surveillance legislation that affects internet users' privacy. Stating that Facebook and Apple are competitors isn't insightful - it's obvious, and it doesn't invalidate his argument.

more than 2 years ago

Facebook, Twitter, and Myspace To Google: Don't Be Evil

MochaMan Re:Leave search alone (208 comments)

Easy fix. Upper-right corner of the search results: click "hide personal results" (the globe icon). If you want to get rid of them permanently: settings drop-down, "Do not use personal results" radio button.

more than 2 years ago

Android Orphans: a Sad History of Platform Abandonment

MochaMan Re:What? (770 comments)

Not to mention they don't cover the fact that while the 3G was updated, the updates (particularly iOS4) left it barely useable. Tap camera... wait 30s... shutter opens. Tap Maps... wait 1 min... maps crashes. Tap it again... another crash... phone starting to heat up now. At first I thought it was faulty hardware, but my wife's had essentially the same problems.

more than 2 years ago

Feds Bust Chinese Firm's Hybrid Car Data Heist

MochaMan Re:No surprise (203 comments)

On further digging I call bullshit. Let's see a valid citation that claims sale of used games is illegal.

Here are some showing it isn't: [2002]

Online shopping for used games:

Used games flourish in Japan:

more than 3 years ago

Feds Bust Chinese Firm's Hybrid Car Data Heist

MochaMan Re:No surprise (203 comments)

Can't be bothered to look it up, but if it is illegal, it certainly doesn't stop any of the shops near my place from selling them... and you don't often see people openly flouting even minor laws here.

more than 3 years ago

5.5 Earthquake Hits Canada; Felt in US Midwest, New England

MochaMan Baby earthquake in Montreal (560 comments)

Having grown up on the West Coast of Canada, and lived in California and 5 years in Japan... this earthquake was barely even noticeable in Montreal, despite co-workers panicking. Potted plant balanced on my cubicle wall still sitting there. A lot of overreaction in a region not used to earthquakes.

more than 4 years ago

Pacific Northwest At Risk For Mega-Earthquake

MochaMan The Lower Mainland (457 comments)

is what we Canadians call it... eh :P

more than 4 years ago

Daylight Savings Time Increases Energy Use In Indiana

MochaMan Re:hope this will be (388 comments)

Japan is again considering to introduce DST even though we already concluded it won't work in Japan for cultural/geometrical reasons decades ago.

I don't want DST here either, but let's at least roll back one hour all year long. It's insane that the sun comes up at 4am in summer time and goes down at 7:30pm. A whole 2-3 hours of daylight is lost while we sleep! I'd much rather have it light from 5am-8:30pm in summer and 7am-5:30 in winter than what we have today.

Might not matter as much in Okinawa, but I know it bothers me in Tokyo, and it'd be worse in Hokkaido.

more than 5 years ago



Modern Day Equivalent of Byte/Compute! Magazine?

MochaMan MochaMan writes  |  more than 4 years ago

MochaMan (30021) writes "I grew up in the 80s on a steady diet of Byte and Compute! magazines, banging in page after page of code line-by-line, and figuring out how sound, graphics and input devices worked along the way. Since then, the personal computer market has obviously moved away from hobbyists intent on coding and understanding their machines down to the hardware, but I imagine there must still be a market for similar do-it-yourself articles. Perhaps the collective minds of Slashdot can divine some online sources of fun & educational mini-projects like "write your own assembler" or "roll your own bootloader"."

Japan to Fingerprint, Photograph all Foreigners

MochaMan MochaMan writes  |  more than 6 years ago

MochaMan writes "As of this Tuesday, November 20th, Japan will be requiring mandatory fingerprinting and mug shots of all foreigners entering the country, making it one of only two countries in the world to do so. The program goes further than the US program in that it also applies to visa-holders and permanent residents. The prints will be stored and shared with other governments. The Japanese government has produced an explanatory video, and even a promotional PDF poster. Japanese and international civil rights groups have raised concerns that the practice is both an invasion of privacy and discriminatory. An online petition to abolish the program is available. Is the age of privacy over?"
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