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Chrome OS Can Now Run Android Apps With No Porting Required

Ol Olsoc Re:Wow (128 comments)

The part where you installed over your vista partition is your own stupid fault.

Absolutely. Every single problem I ever had with Windows was my fault. I supported Windows for years, and not once mind you not once ever was any of the problems that I mentioned with Windows ever anyone's fault but mine. A computer could be sitting in another building, an update bitches it up, and somehow, some way, it was my fault.

I know the drill shillboi. Windows can never fail - only we can fail Windows.

Which is why I switched to Unix like systems, where I'm nowhere near as stupid.

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Why Atheists Need Captain Kirk

Ol Olsoc Re:Great idea! Let's alienate Science even more! (857 comments)

The bigger failure, from my vantage point, is that people who call themselves "atheists" today often have faith in there not being a god.

A circular argument.

At that point they are not truly atheists as the term means "without faith". They have instead hijacked the term to now mean "anyone who believes there to not be a god"; indeed it takes just as much faith to believe there to not be a god as it does to believe there to be one.

Yow. So if a person has never heard of a "God" they have faith in something they don't know about? All the word smitihng doesn't convince me that there can be faith in "nothing" if a person is inclined to be an atheist.

And that is the issue I have with the people who do have "faith" in an intelligent entity that created the universe. I am an atheist in "universe creators" Even ones who I've never heard of. Having faith that things I've never heard of that don't exist just seems like dividing by zero.

This is why while I am classically an atheist, I use the term agnostic to describe myself in the modern world.

In that respect, any atheist who is intellectually honest would be classified as agnostic.

I cannot say for certain that when I die, I won't meet the Judeo-Christian God, Dagon, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I consider each an equal possibility, as in near zero.

And it's too bad, I would like to meet Ganesha. That's my idea of what a God should be.

yesterday
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High School Student Builds Gun That Unlocks With Your Fingerprint

Ol Olsoc Re:Great one more fail (567 comments)

My father was a police officer. My father had guns unattended around the house relatively frequently. As a child, I picked them up. I looked at them. There was zero chance anyone was ever going to get hurt.

Why?

I was taught what guns could could do. I had actually fired guns. I fired my first gun (a rifle) when I was I was 3 years old.

Smart man. Since guns were an integral part of his life, he knew that you were going to be curious, so he taught you respect, and allowing you to sate that curiousity, kept you from being tempted to sneak it out by yourself. Let you know it could do great harm, as well as be a very interesting device, I would bet.

I never had guns in my house when I became an adult. It was not because I was afraid of them, it was because I had children and knew I could not train them like I had been trained. I did take them to the range but only my daughter shot a gun there. My son wanted nothing to do with it.

My son and I are lucky to have a tremendous outdoor range just a few miles from my place. So we hit there every so often to target shoot and relax.

Relying on a gun safe to keep your children out of trouble is insanity. If you love guns so much and need to have them around, train your children.

Now you lost me. Let's make a comparison I also make reflector telescopes as a hobby, and have even silvered my own mirrors. Great fun, and tests your skills at working with chemicals. But there are some seriously nasty chemicals in use. Nitric acid, Ammonium hydroxide which comes in little pellets that look like candy ,(who the hell though that was a good idea) and silver nitrate, which is more messy than lethal, but still poisonous, plus invert sugar and citric acid, just to mix food items in that nasty cocktail.

Until my son was old enough to know Never ever mess with this stuff, you can damn well be assured that it was locked up.

Two other items where a gun safe isn't at all insanity:

If you have visitors with children, are their children going to be properly trained in the safe use of firearms? If I have 'em locked up, I don't have to insist all visitors to the house have passed a firearms safety course.

I also have some friends with a lot of firearms. Collectible stuff, one might have around 100 kilobucks worth of guns. Just leaning really valuables in the corner, isn't that good of an idea, and thieves might find his place a good target. So what do ya do? A dedicated room, and yeah, with locks on the door. I can't state for certain, but I'll bet that is a requirement for insuring the collection

So you can go ahead and think I'm nuts. I'm not about to re-arrange my life around my firearms. I'm not about to screen visitors to the house for gun safety smarts. When My son was a child, I wasn't about to trust his friends with firearms when they visited.

Training young people in firearm safety and locking the things up when you aren't using them is not a mutually exclusive situation.

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High School Student Builds Gun That Unlocks With Your Fingerprint

Ol Olsoc Re:Great one more fail (567 comments)

Why don't you ask your local police department how many of the officers keep their weapons in a safe at night? Or use trigger locks? Include the ones with kids. When you figure out why THEY don't want to do it, you'll figure out why the rest of us don't.

Sorry dude. I do it. If you live in a place where you have to have your gun instanly ready, you need to live in a concrete cage, in a safe room, in a gated community, with 24-7 surveillance. As for the police, I've worked with a number of them and personally know so many of them in my county that I'm almost immune from jury duty.

One of the constants that I see in all the gun nuts is that they are some of the most fearful people I have ever met. It takes a whole lot of fear to have to have a loaded gun at the ready 24/7.

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High School Student Builds Gun That Unlocks With Your Fingerprint

Ol Olsoc Re:Great one more fail (567 comments)

Let me get this straight - irresponsible gun owners result in a statistically insignificant number of child deaths every year. Your solution is to create a new technology that not only defeats the purpose of owning the gun for many people in the first place, it also doesn't prevent any of the above mentioned deaths.

So let me get this straight. You are okay with people getting killed for basically nothing? And most very sincerely, if you think that some sort of biometric defeats hte very purpose of having a gun, you also don't have ignition key or locks on your doors. They control access. But a gun? Completely differnt matter.

So does a safety defeat the purpose of owning a gun?

And we should focus billions of dollars on this initiative in place of focusing on things that could, you know, actually save a significant number of lives? Makes sense to me.

Explain how this is going to cost billions of dollars.

Explain what you want to spend billions of dollars on to save lives.

You'll have a difficult time, because you are trying to argue about "number of lives", when you are actually afraid that any change, any tiny thing you do, is going to allow the guvmint to take your guns away.

Anyhow, I expect an answer on the billions it will cost, and how many billions you suppport to be applied to the deaths that you actually give a fuck about.

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Why Atheists Need Captain Kirk

Ol Olsoc Re:Atheism offers no values - you have to add them (857 comments)

It's better to die fighting the crowd than to offer either the guests or your pre-pubescent daughters (unmarried girls at the time were generally unmarried because they hadn't had their first period yet) up for gang rape.

A thousand times THIS!

I don't have daughters, but I would die long before I would offer them as pedophilic rape objects.

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Why Atheists Need Captain Kirk

Ol Olsoc Re:Atheism offers no values - you have to add them (857 comments)

"Are you trying to say that without a belif in some God, that it is not possible to understand what is good for a society, or an individual, or a collection of individuals?" Your points about Sodom are interesting.

And your acceptance of it all is exactly why I find Fundamentalists morally evil.

Odd, that in your mind, you are of high moral character, doing God's work, and to be rewarded upon your demise with everlasting life.

And I think you are an immoral prevert.

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Why Atheists Need Captain Kirk

Ol Olsoc Re:Great idea! Let's alienate Science even more! (857 comments)

" but the important thing is that you have faith, not to be shaken, no need of proof, just faith." -WHY is it important to have "have faith". Placing importance on the non-rational is the problem, not a thing to be proud of

Re-read my post. I wasn't claiming faith for myself, but the person I was responding to.

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Why Atheists Need Captain Kirk

Ol Olsoc Re:Great idea! Let's alienate Science even more! (857 comments)

The fundamental problem is you're confusing a mention of the near universal trait of humans to believe in some sort of "powerful other" controlling the universe. Some people are more prone to that "need" than others, but it *is* present in the vast majority of humanity,

I'm not confused of anything. You want belief to be translated as faith. Many people also want theory translated as conjecture. But that's not what it is. And you don't get to define it.

That's the problem. You don't get to tell me that what are two different things is only one thing.

Rather, it is you who confuse "faith" with a fundamental urge to believe in something, whatever that something may be.

I believe that you insist on defining words for other people, the insisting that they agree with your definition. I don't go around telling you what you think.

One can have faith in processes,

So when was the last time you prayed to a process?

in kitschy homilies and phrases, and other such "wisdom" with no more "proof" of their validity than a theory of there being some form of god out there.

I'm not even close to following you. The closest I can get is that you think if I say "Common sense is uncommon", or "The early bird gets the worm", I have faith in that, and therefore religion? That is pretty bizarre.

Of course those who have such faith are far more inclined to call it "knowledge", and to consider it to be beyond reproach.

So in your world, now those kitschy needlepoint signs saying "Home is where the Heart is" is evidence of atheists having a religion? Good grief man, I see a simple statement of comfort with familiar surroundings and loved family members, and you see it as faith. Your definition of faith is spreading to encompass everything in the universe.

Faith and belief are not the same thing. Faith is acceptance of something as "fact" without evidence. Belief is acceptance of something because all prior experience has demonstrated the "fact" to be so.

Not specifically "fact" I I noted before, I believe the earth will rotate in it's travel around the sun, and we will experience a sunrise. That's belief. Seasons will come and go in large part because of the way the earth is tilted as it travels aroud it's orbit. I believe all that.

Once upon a time and well before celestial mechanics were known, people prayed that the Sun would "rise" and that the seasons would happen as they wanted. They had faith that th esun god would return and ride across the sky. But they had to do everything right in order for him to do it. That's why they were so frightened during eclipses. But that's all based on faith in a deity. No proof needed.

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High School Student Builds Gun That Unlocks With Your Fingerprint

Ol Olsoc Re:Great one more fail (567 comments)

Google teenager dies in car crash. Google child dies in car crash. Outside of the fact that it makes for sensational headlines, why the focus on guns? The number of kids who shoot their siblings a year isn't even a blip on the radar of causes of death of young children. Try expending your efforts on something that will actually make a difference.

But kind sir, are you keeping track, and if people bing killed aren't on say the top two, it's just fine that they are killed? No problem? I don't want people killed in car accidents either, or being strangled by an anaconda or ripped apart by a deranged chimpanzee. Not many killed by wild animals kept as pets, but we have laws against keeping dangerous wild animals in many places for that reason. And I'm not even arguing about anyone's rights to have firearms, I use and enjoy them myself. I just think irresponsible people should bear the responsibility when their stupidity kills other people. But in some people's world, even prosecution of willful negligence is apparenlty off limits when it involves a firearm.

You see, you ask "Why the focus on guns?" I might ask why some people don't want any focus at all on guns.

But in easily preventable accidents, it would seem like a great way to cut down on some deaths. Firearms are really cool, and a lot of fun. But they are designed to kill things, so maybe we should make certain everyone is careful with them.

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High School Student Builds Gun That Unlocks With Your Fingerprint

Ol Olsoc Re:Great one more fail (567 comments)

As a responsible gun owner, I have 1 additional modification to make to this statement: Use a single shot .22 caliber rifle for the young and new ones. They can trade up to a pump/bolt type action when they demonstrate that they can handle the single shot smoothly. IE safe operation without hesitation.

Very good point, and I should have remembered that. When I was in Boy Scouts back in a more sane age, was my introduction to firearms. Single shots, and .22 shorts of course.

Our instructor was severely no bullshit, and if you weren't paying attention, you had no chance of getting a Marksmanship badge until next year, because that was the next timw you were allowed on the range.

I enjoyed that so much that there was no way I was going to take a chance of getting kicked off the range.

2 days ago
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High School Student Builds Gun That Unlocks With Your Fingerprint

Ol Olsoc Re:Great one more fail (567 comments)

up in arms about his second amendment rights being violated

Nicely done, my friend. Was that intentional?

I was hoping somone would catch that. After all a good pun is it's own re-word.

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High School Student Builds Gun That Unlocks With Your Fingerprint

Ol Olsoc Re:Great one more fail (567 comments)

In the end though, can you really be surprised at the seemingly insane attempt to defend themselves? How many times have you done or said something stupid for which there was no excuse? Didn't you still try to flounder for an argument that would prevent the backlash at least some of the time?

In the end, I rather think that if I set up the situation for my child to kill a sibling, I'd plead guilty. If they wanted to lock me away for life, that would be an acceptable punishment. I do know that I'd probably have nightmares every night for the rest of my life, probably seeing the little girls blloody guts strewn all over the room - knowing I was responsible. Apparently these folks didn't think they were guilty of anything at all, and their second amendment rights included absolutely no responsibility for their actions. .

Somewhere along the line, people stopped learning that actions have consequences.

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Why Atheists Need Captain Kirk

Ol Olsoc Re:Great idea! Let's alienate Science even more! (857 comments)

They worship whatever the majority of scientists as published in the mass media claim for the day.

So you figure that scientists get down on their knees and pray or something? The go to the church of whatver "mass media claim"?

I hope you are trolling. Otherwise y'all aint that bright there, Sparky.

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Why Atheists Need Captain Kirk

Ol Olsoc Re:Great idea! Let's alienate Science even more! (857 comments)

That is well said. Thank you.

It does not change the fact that for some people atheism/agnosticism/science is most definitely their religion and they will shove it down your throat with all the self righteous indignation of a rabid Jehovah Witness selling Amway.

I guess I've been incredibly lucky. Probably half the people I know are atheists, I worked with a lot of scientists. We almost never even discussed it, beyond acknowledgement, usually when some religious person was trying to either convert or commiserate.

I myself never even think about it, except when we have articles like this, and someone starts with the old "Athiesm is a religion" or "Athiests are immoral bit.

As for ramming things down other's throats, I was raised strict Catholic, with even more strict Southern Baptist Grandparents. In my school anything that even remotely suggested a world creation date older than 4004 b.c.e. was meticulously scrubbed from the curriculum. Sex ed was compressed into one day, where you were told if you had sex, you were going to get VD and die.One time a health class mentioned basal metabolism, and the fundamentalists came out in full force to try to get the guy fired. Stores were not allowed to be open on Sunday until the early 70's.

I've had the opposite experience to you.

And this was in Blue State Pennsylvania, harldly a hot bed of religious control.

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High School Student Builds Gun That Unlocks With Your Fingerprint

Ol Olsoc Re:When you abolutely, positively need a gun now! (567 comments)

You're right, and that's good. However this is usually at the expense of the fathers that keep the guns in a safe, or high in the closet, or some other hard-to-get-to location. When you need your gun because someone's breaking in, who's got time to open a safe?

I know someone exactly like you. Guy slept with a loaded .45 under his pillow, safety off, because if someone broke into his place, the time to take the safety off might mean the difference between life and death

Kinda played hell with his sex life, his wife was petrified the thing might go off. She ended up sleeping separate, while his paranoia grew.

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High School Student Builds Gun That Unlocks With Your Fingerprint

Ol Olsoc Re:Great one more fail (567 comments)

Agree. Besides most of firearm incidents in the US are done by the actual owner of the gun. Statistically the only problem the "smart gun" solves can is already taken care of by responsible gun owners with a safe.

There is a keyword in there.

Responsible

How many people are "responsible",p> Many gun affectionados I know think your idea of storing guns in a safe is the start of the guvernment taking them away. Same for a trigger lock. All of those things slow them down if some thug comes into their house.

Last thing they want is that.

The problem is that responsibility thing. Google boy shoots sister, or girl shoots brother - or other similar keywords, and you'll be treated to a litany.

Far too many people just let loaded guns sit around their house like decorations. In one case a few years ago, a young boy shot and killed his sister. When the police investigated, they found rifles leaned up in the corners of every room in the house - but these piles also had the boy's and girl's toy rifles in the same pile.The photos were disturbing.

So the parents were tried and convicted. Their defense? You got it. Second amendment, their right to stack their real and loaded rifles and their children's rifles in the same place. Their one kid is dead, and the other is living with the fact that he gut shot her and killed her.

My own personal experience with this sort of madness was when my son was in second grade, a child a few houses up from us comes to hte bus stop with a loaded rifle and darn near made a major adjustment to the youth population in the neighborhood. Fortunately a cool headed mother managed to get the rifle off the lad.

Police found the same situation. Rifles and handguns laying around the house. And upon their removal, the father (his wife had wisely left him some time before, was all up in arms about his second amendment rights being violated.

Responsibility. Children have not yet learned it.

Sadly, neither have many of their parents. The recent killing of a range instructor by a little girl with an auto pistol showed all of that. It's s simple matter of physics that a positive feedback loop might occur in a small person not used to such a device. You want a little kid to learn how to use firearms? Use a .22 caliber rifle and have them learn from the prone position. Safest way to keep them unharmed while they learn.

Responsibility. It should be the second half of a right. Sad to say, asking people to take responsibility brings out the knives, as the person who thinks it is a good idea is mercilessly attacked for trying to take their guns away.

This kid who invented this locking/unlocking technology will be eviscerated by the fringe that is controlling the gun discussion today.

Just watch the response to what I wrote. You might be surprised that I own and enjoy using multiple firearms myself.

2 days ago
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Why Atheists Need Captain Kirk

Ol Olsoc Re:Great idea! Let's alienate Science even more! (857 comments)

The problem is even atheists still feel a need to believe in *something*. Which is silly. Planting Science as your God still means you have a God and are not an atheist.

Because people like you cannot comprehend the difference between faith and belief. You might have faith that Jesus Christ died for our sins. You might believe that also, but the important thing is that you have faith, not to be shaken, no need of proof, just faith.

I believe that there will be a sunrise tomorrow morning. I do not need faith for that belief. I have celestial mechanics to tell me that will happen, which can be proven beyond a doubt.

My belief that the sun will rise tomorrow morning, does not make it my religion.

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Why Atheists Need Captain Kirk

Ol Olsoc Re:Atheism offers no values - you have to add them (857 comments)

And that's the problem; it's impossible to justify a value system purely from an atheist perspective; you've got to add some value such as 'the good of society', 'the utility of the individual', 'the success of the species'.

What? Are you trying to say that without a belif in some God, that it is not possible to understand what is good for a society, or an individual, or a collection of individuals?

That is so severely fucked up that I almost hink you might be trolling here. The idea that I cannot have a concept that a social construct is good or bad is just plin wrong. In fact, I can find many many things that are religion based that are very bad for society.

I know quite a few fundamentalists. Just as an example, many of them follow the idea of dominion of man. They also believe that the end of days is upon us. And in conversations with them, they have no intention of conservation, or environmental concerns. As one put it when asked about what future generations will do for fuel - "Fuck future generations" Odd he'd use that language, but that self serving attitude is not that uncommon.

To me, that is completely immoral, self centered, and religion based.

In practice atheists tend to absorb the dominant values of their society; thus often 'love your neighbour', usually defining 'neighbour' in the extensive way that Jesus offers in the Parable of the Good Samaritan. But actually there's not a terribly good reason for doing so, and it's been a minority view down the centuries.

One does not need to know Jesus to understand that there is a way that people would prefer to be treated, so it does not take God to let me know that if I don't want my neighbor busting a cap in my ass, or running off with my wife or flat screen TV, that I might treat him in a respectful manner. It doesn't take a biblical outlook to understand that society in general needs people to act in a civilized manner.

And of course the excesses of the church pale into insignificance compared with the horrors of Stalin and Mao - which is not to argue we Christians haven't committed some appalling crimes, but that all need to be given the right to condemn some of those flying the same flag.

While you are trying to head off one of the standard arguments here, You have to admit that Mao and Stalin didn't have a multi millennia aged book telling them to commit their crimes against humanity.

No, one of the worst things is for a basically moral person to come up against some of the immoral and evil stories in the holy Bible.

Just as an example, I use this one a lot because it is so incredibly evil, is In Sodom, where Lot offers his daughters to be gang raped by men of the town - the evil aside from the horrific act of his pimping out his daughters to their possible death, he was condemning them to being stoned to death if they ever married. Then when he and his family left Sodom, God Killed his wife because she looked back at the town. Umm, exactly why? Then just to cap off this sordid little tale, Lot's daughters got him drunk, and fucked him. Both of them on separate occasions. Then they had his inbred children.

And yet, there was no condemnation of either Lot trying to let his daughters get gang raped, or of his little incestuous act. This same God, who in the old testament apparently loved to kill people for seemingly minor stuff, killed Lot's wife over almost nothing.

Just one abysmal and immoral story among many.

So my good Christian person, don't even stoop to lecture me or any atheists on your moral superiority. Because you don't have any legitimate claim to it.

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Why Atheists Need Captain Kirk

Ol Olsoc Re:Great idea! Let's alienate Science even more! (857 comments)

The problem is even atheists still feel a need to believe in *something*. Which is silly. Planting Science as your God still means you have a God and are not an atheist.

Nonsense. I mean, that tired old argument merely shows the utter lack of ability to think in the manner of anyone else.

God? Faith? Religion?

Do atheists kneel down every evening and pray - to science?

Do atheists go to the holy Church of nothing every Sunday and pray - to nothing?

Do atheists have radio stations that other atheists preach to them from some book and ask for money? For nothing?

Do athiests go on missions from their atheist church to convert people - to nothing?

Unfortunately, a lot of people aren't willing to accept the simple credo of "do good". Which really is all that most religions were ever telling people in the first place, with varying details of what they consider "good".

Having read the Bible, i find there is a whole lot of immoral activity going on, most of which is blessed or performed by da big guy. So I guess that must be a really big part of the religion. "Doing good" in many cases apparently means killing Gays, non virgin wives, rebellious teenagers, witches, blasphemers, and people who work on the sabbath.

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