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Amazon Seeks US Exemption To Test Delivery Drones

TC Wilcox Re:Government control of our lives... (155 comments)

Your statement baffles me. Somalia does not have laws against any of the things OP complained about. You can shoot people via drone while wearing a costume from your car while talking on a cell phone! That this anarcho-capitalist paradise sprung from the ashes of an oppressive regime (worst than NYC, even) seems beside the point.

I'm not sure why my statement would baffle you. I never claimed that things were great in Somalia; I only claimed that Somalia is the result government failure. I'm not an anarchist, but I am familiar the standard anarchist response to your statement. It goes something like this.... No one ever claimed that the mere absence of a government is sufficient for bliss. The claim is that adding an institution of organized theft and violence will make anywhere worse. Also, in regards to Somalia in particular, in the time since the government of Somalia has collapsed: (1) life expectancy has gone up, (2) death rates have gone down, (3) GDP has nearly tripled, (4) infant mortality is lower, (5) a larger percentage of the population has access to water, and (6) more adults are literate. It seems like by many measures Somalia has done better without a government than they did with a government.

about a month ago
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Amazon Seeks US Exemption To Test Delivery Drones

TC Wilcox Re:Government control of our lives... (155 comments)

And finally, may I make a suggestion? If you really, really want less government, then move to Somalia. I am sure they will welcome you with open arms (pun intended).

Somalia once had a strong (and oppressive) central government. It collapsed. Somalia is an example of what happens when strong, oppressive central governments collapse. Telling people who want less government to go to a Somalia may seem pithy, but it really just shows ignorance of history.

about a month ago
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That Toy Is Now a Drone

TC Wilcox Re: They're infringing my Second-Amendment drone (268 comments)

The issue of the right to bear arms was NEVER mutually agreed upon by the states and federal government. The federal government essentially tricked the states by the use of a carefully placed comma.

I'd be interested in knowing if you have any references at all to support that claim. I'd prefer something written during that time period that says something to the effect of, "Dang it, those clever Federalists tricked us with that comma! Curse you, comma!"

about 1 month ago
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That Toy Is Now a Drone

TC Wilcox Re: They're infringing my Second-Amendment drone r (268 comments)

Also, the Constitution was designed by and for a relatively homogeneous culture (western European) not the "melting pot" it literally has become.

Ack! The country is a trap! We are all going to be melted!

about 1 month ago
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Anonymous's Latest Target: Boston Children's Hospital

TC Wilcox Re:"State takes custody of teenage girl" (329 comments)

If she were my child, there would be no way I would let them stop me from getting her back. If paperwork and appeals didn't do the trick, I would very quickly escalate the actions I took to ensure her safety and care under my responsibility. That might mean intimidation or violence...so be it. They threw the first stone. The State has absolutely no reason to take these parents' child from them.

I agree with you that that The State had no reason to take the child, but be careful. The State views those that use violence against it as the most vile criminals and would not hesitate to have you thrown in prison. If you are in prison how can you help your child?

about 4 months ago
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Can the ObamaCare Enrollment Numbers Be Believed?

TC Wilcox Re:Fuck Obamacare (723 comments)

This ALWAYS this you crybabies whine about right up until it is your ASS being left out front of the hospital. Then it is all about SAVE ME!

What you say could be 100% true and the ACA could still be unconstitutional. What you are doing here is attacking the person (an imaginary person) rather than attacking the argument. If you want to argue that it is constitutional your best bet would be to go to the constitution and find the parts that you think would allow for this legislation. For help you could read what the supreme court justices said about the legislation.

about 4 months ago
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LA Police Officers Suspected of Tampering With Their Monitoring Systems

TC Wilcox Re:Nobody should be constantly monitored (322 comments)

not of used

not've used

It's a contraction of "not have used". Again try to avoid using words/phrases that you've only heard and never read when writing. It occasionally makes you look illiterate.

For the record I don't think this should be modes as "Troll". His observation is correct. If anything I usually try hard to *thank* people who correct me. So, "thanks".... I appreciate that you took the time to correct my grammar.

about 4 months ago
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LA Police Officers Suspected of Tampering With Their Monitoring Systems

TC Wilcox Re:Nobody should be constantly monitored (322 comments)

Nobody should be constantly monitored. Be that at work or in private.

That's pretty obvious to anyone who doesn't live in a totalitarian state or the US.

Society allows police officers to use violence against members of society. They are supposed to only use that privilege under certain circumstances, but many officers have already demonstrated poor judgement and used violence when they should not of used it. The point of these cameras is to provide a control against people who can legally assault the public (police officers) as well as give officers a defense if they are ever accused of using violence inappropriately. This monitoring is necessary because police have already shown themselves to be irresponsible. Any police officer that is intentionally interfering with the recordings should be charged with destruction of evidence.

about 4 months ago
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Brendan Eich Steps Down As Mozilla CEO

TC Wilcox Re:I think this is bullshit (1746 comments)

Ironically, the very people [Mormons] who would support such a movement, Mormons, pretty much shot themselves in the foot by actively opposing allowing gays to get married, so they won't find many friends to help them in their movement.

Mormons (at least the biggest group LDS) would not support any movement to strike down polygamy laws. Currently they excommunicate anyone who practices polygamy even if that person lives in an area of the world where polygamy is normal. Additionally, the LDS Mormons haven't practiced polygamy in so long that they wouldn't want to be in a polygamous relationship anymore than anyone else in this country.

about 5 months ago
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Dorian Nakamoto Officially Denies That He Created Bitcoin

TC Wilcox Re:Ssssure... (102 comments)

Oh great, so you need to be a Jew in order to make a formal denial? This atheist thing is starting to be more troublesome than I imagined.

Kosher is also commonly defined as "legitimate". "she consulted lawyers to make sure everything was kosher" is actually an example sentence if you type, "define: kosher" into google.

about 5 months ago
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Measles Outbreak In NYC

TC Wilcox Re:You won't get through to them (747 comments)

I am not sure why this is so unclear. The null hypothesis of "no treatment effect" is equivalent to saying "both groups were sampled from the same distribution" which is equivalent to "the means of the treatment group and control groups are exactly equal"

The p-value is the probability of getting as or more extreme of the difference between sample means that you observed assuming that there is in reality no difference in population means. If the treatment and control groups are different at baseline (or become different over the course of the study for reasons other than the treatment) then this assumption is false.

What you quoted doesn't say what you just said. "both groups were sampled from the same distribution" is not the same as "the means of the treatment group and control groups are exactly equal." The *expected* means of the groups is equal. The math behind the statistical models takes into account random group assignment and so there is no expectation that the groups start exactly the same (or change in similar ways over the course of the experiment).

about 5 months ago
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Measles Outbreak In NYC

TC Wilcox Re:You won't get through to them (747 comments)

Ronald Fisher it is: mathematics of a lady tasting tea http://books.google.dk/books?i...

See the section "The Null Hypothesis"

It is evident that the null hypothesis must be exact, that is free from vagueness and ambiguity, because it must supply the basis of the “problem of distribution,” of which the test of significance is the solution. A null hypothesis may, indeed, contain arbitrary elements, and in more complicated cases often does so: as, for example, if it should assert that the death-rates of two groups of animals are equal, without specifying what these death-rates usually are. In such cases it is evidently the equality rather than any particular values of the death-rates that the experiment is designed to test, and possibly to disprove.

And what point did you hope to make?

about 5 months ago
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Measles Outbreak In NYC

TC Wilcox Re:You won't get through to them (747 comments)

How do you get "treatment had no effect" into the t-test calculation? You compare the difference between means that you got with what you would expect if the difference between means was zero.

.....and your point is? And how does this relate to your initial statement that scientists "assume that the treatment group and control group were exactly the same at baseline"?

about 5 months ago
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Measles Outbreak In NYC

TC Wilcox Re:You won't get through to them (747 comments)

"If the treatment had no effect at all we'd expect to see results like this x% of the time just based on the randomness of group assignment."

At no point in this process did the scientists assume that the treatment group and the control group were exactly the same.....

"If mu1=mu2 we'd expect to see results like this x% of the time just based on the randomness of group assignment."

Can you see the assumption?

What you have in quotes isn't what I said. The assumptions in the part that I wrote that you quoted were that the treatment had no effect and that group assignment was random.

If you'd like to spell out the assumptions in your statement you are welcome to do that.

about 5 months ago
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Measles Outbreak In NYC

TC Wilcox Re:You won't get through to them (747 comments)

TC Wilcox clearly I am not an authoritative enough entity for you to listen to why you are wrong. You have also apparently failed to perform the calculations yourself and understand the implications. What person or organization would you like as a source?

Dude, I am listening to you (and wasting my time apparently) trying to explain why your claim that scientists assume that "treatment group and control group were exactly the same at baseline" is false, false, FALSE.

You tried to back way from that by asking me if "two groups would have the exact same average if there were no treatment effect". That is once again false (but in my opinion less false). They would have the exact same expected average, but I wouldn't expect them to have the same exact average.

If you would like to explain to me what I said exactly that is incorrect you are welcome to do that. So far I don't think you've actually claimed that anything I've said is incorrect.

If you'd like to go to a third party that is fine with me to. I'd accept anyone that is really good at Math or Statistics. A PhD just to show they (probably) know what they are talking about would make them more acceptable.

about 5 months ago
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Measles Outbreak In NYC

TC Wilcox Re:You won't get through to them (747 comments)

You want to compare with a t-test or anova. How do you test the null hypothesis that the treatment has no effect?

Do you claim that it is possible to do this without first assuming that the two groups would have the exact same average if there were no treatment effect? If so I would like to learn your new method.

You should study some statistics. You seem to some (very) incorrect ideas about what the tests mean.

This is how it works. In a randomized study scientists will assign subjects two a treatment group and a control group. As you might guess assignment to a group is done randomly.

Now we go to one of the big misconceptions you seem to keep going back to. You state that scientists assume "treatment group and control group were exactly the same at baseline." They do NOT! On purpose they are creating random groups. They are making no effort at all to make the groups equal and in fact if they made any effort to make the groups equal it would invalidate the math behind the statistics and the experiment would have no real value.

They have two groups and they are as sure as they can be that the two groups aren't equal because groups were assigned randomly. They do whatever it is they want to do and then they measure whatever it is they want to measure. Statistics tells the scientists how likely it is that any differences they see between the groups are caused by random chance. In other words, statistics might say something like, "If the treatment had no effect at all we'd expect to see results like this x% of the time just based on the randomness of group assignment."

At no point in this process did the scientists assume that the treatment group and the control group were exactly the same.....

And if you want to learn this stuff you most certainly can. Pick up a cheap textbook on statistics. Read it and try to understand it. Be careful to make sure that you are learning not just how to run a t-test, but the assumptions that are built into a statistical model.

about 5 months ago
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Measles Outbreak In NYC

TC Wilcox Re:You won't get through to them (747 comments)

Oh really. What null hypothesis was used? Was it that the mean of the treatment group is equal to the mean of the control group?

The null hypothesis would probably normally be that the treatment has no effect. In some studies it might be that there is no relationship between the things that are being measured. The null hypothesis does not mean, "we assume that that the two groups are exactly the same". You thinking it means that once again shows that you know very little about statistics or how statistics is used in science.

about 5 months ago
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Measles Outbreak In NYC

TC Wilcox Re:You won't get through to them (747 comments)

It is simple, anyone can understand it. They assume that the treatment group and control group were exactly the same at baseline and that nothing happened during the course of the study that could make the groups differ on average. Do you believe any two groups of people are exactly the same?

You haven't studied statistics, have you? You might want to try and learn a little introductory statistics.

I don't know in particular which study you are referring to, but I've never seen or heard of a medical study where the doctors assumed the control group and the treatment group are exactly the same. Assuming proper statistical protocols were followed statistics tells us what the odds are that what we observed is just a random by-product of how people were assigned to groups.

In short, you don't understand the math behind these experiments and so you are convinced that the experimenters have made silly assumptions.

about 5 months ago
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Men And Women Think Women Are Bad At Basic Math

TC Wilcox Re:One bias frequently overlooked (384 comments)

I would say be careful about letting female engineers interview other potential candidates unless they are known to be genuinely fair-minded. You very well may find that it's actually the women, not the men, who are discriminating.

I would be careful about generalizing here. Some women probably discriminate against other women. Some men probably do the same thing. When you paint with too broad a brush you run the risk of fueling "sisterhood versus the patriarchy" arguments.

about 5 months ago
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US Shutdown Is Good News For Patent Trolls

TC Wilcox Re:Democrats as shills for lawyers (84 comments)

How silly! You're making the mistake of assuming than any Democratic administration, much less our current Chicago machine one, is against patent trolls. Look at how much money lawyers give to the Democratic party. Or check and you'll find that the East Texas judge that just ruled in favor of Lodsys was a Obama appointee.

Empirical observation - Patent trolls have done quite well no matter which party has been in party.... It is almost like neither party cares to stop them....

about a year ago

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