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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re:There is no vaccine for the worst diseases (1039 comments)

4 out of 99 is not 10%, it's just over 4%.

Since I phrased the dice bit poorly (although you can tell from the explanation what I was going for), alternately 4 out of 20 is 20%.

5 days ago
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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re:There is no vaccine for the worst diseases (1039 comments)

Then you immediately roll a 3 ;)

Ah well. At least you died knowing that your odds were marginally better to win big.

about a week ago
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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re:There is no vaccine for the worst diseases (1039 comments)

It's a thought problem. What information you get out of it is more important than what your individual answer is.

What I was angling for wasn't calculating the two extreme outcomes such that they have an equal value; my point was deciding should you play the game at all. If you're crunching the numbers to try to arrive at a conclusion that logically involves the least risk/most payout, you're kind of missing the point.

about a week ago
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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re:There is no vaccine for the worst diseases (1039 comments)

Yeah, I wasn't trying to say vaccines specifically are. I was just talking about the hypothetical case.

about a week ago
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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re:There is no vaccine for the worst diseases (1039 comments)

Again, smoking isn't really a communicable disease. I could see being in favor of prohibiting smoking IN PUBLIC just for second-hand smoke reasons, sure. If people want to give themselves cancer in the comfort of their own homes...good on them, I guess?

Idealistically, I am against government interference as well. But there are certain circumstances such as vaccination that really require the compliance of everyone able to do so. I don't like making exceptions either, but you have to.

Would you also be one of the people complaining about the government infringing your rights if you got infected with ebola and they quarantined you? They're infringing on my right to go outside and run around in a crowd of healthy people!

about a week ago
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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re:Not the real problem (1039 comments)

What schools are letting them enroll without their shots?

That's the problem right there.

about a week ago
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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re:Mississippi Is Doing Something Right? (1039 comments)

Call it Mississatheism: The belief that no Mississippi atheists exist ;)

about a week ago
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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re: Knowledge is the solution (1039 comments)

It's not a false dichotomy, it's a historical observation. Civilization started with people gathering into cities.

about a week ago
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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re:Still not buying it (1039 comments)

What I see is an arrogant, selfish display of superiority, and an utter disrespect for the basic human right of free choice.

To reference a common /. idiom, your "right" to not get vaccinated for no valid medical reason ends with my right to not be pointlessly at risk of contracting diseases we could (and did, for a long time) prevent.

about a week ago
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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re:An entirely typical argument (1039 comments)

I did feel pretty conflicted when people were complaining about being quarantined during the Ebola in the U.S. thing.

My idealistic side said, yeah, technically that's a violation of their rights.
My pragmatic side said, damn straight, that's what ya gotta do to solve the situation.

about a week ago
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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re:No (1039 comments)

If you did, how would you ever enforce that?

Well, I could say "if you see one, instantly call the SWAT team to come out with flamethrowers to remove the risk" but I doubt you'd like that answer.

I'd also bet that that would put a lid on the problem pretty damn fast.

about a week ago
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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re:There is no vaccine for the worst diseases (1039 comments)

While logical, it doesn't really help much when you're risking your own child.

(hopefully that's what you were hinting at)
(and the fact that the autism "risking" part has been conclusively disproved)

about a week ago
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Time To Remove 'Philosophical' Exemption From Vaccine Requirements?

TangoMargarine Re:There is no vaccine for the worst diseases (1039 comments)

The risk is perceived as far higher than it really is, but that's human nature so it will have to be dealt with in a human manner.

I don't think humans are wired to intuit high-risk, high-reward probability spaces very well. There's the lottery, and then this vaccination thing, too (ignoring a few pertinent facets of it, obviously).

Imagine the following game: you roll 2d10 to determine what happens to you. On a roll of...

2-5) You are instantly murdered.
6-95) You receive $100 and are free to go.
96-100) You receive a million bucks and are free to go.

Do you play the game?

about a week ago
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Once Again, Baltimore Police Arrest a Person For Recording Them

TangoMargarine Re:How about criminal charges ... (514 comments)

"Did you ever flashy-thing me, man?"
"No."
"Man, I ain't messin' with you! You ever flashy-thinged me, K?"
"No."

about a week ago
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Once Again, Baltimore Police Arrest a Person For Recording Them

TangoMargarine Re:How about criminal charges ... (514 comments)

Or they just learn that not getting reelected is the price of getting into office in the first place because people have a variety of different issues that are "okay, you're out of here" offenses. In which case they just accomplish everything they want to in that one term and say fuck campaigning for reelection.

Say what you will about our election system, but the possibility of getting reelected keeps a lot of politicians from doing crazy stuff their first term. If everybody only had one term, the volume of crazy would rise dramatically because they have no reason to keep the voters mollified short of a recall.

I like the theory of "then vote their sorry asses out" but have come to the conclusion that the reason we still have a lot of these problems is that they really can't be solved without large, damaging changes to the entire system (we're basically trying to legislate to force people to stop being assholes).

about a week ago
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Once Again, Baltimore Police Arrest a Person For Recording Them

TangoMargarine Re:How about criminal charges ... (514 comments)

"Democracy is the worst form of government...except for all the other ones." :)

about a week ago
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Once Again, Baltimore Police Arrest a Person For Recording Them

TangoMargarine Re:How about criminal charges ... (514 comments)

At this point, there is no defensible reason for every damned police officer to be wearing a camera. We can't trust them, so we have to more or less treat them as needing objective evidence to prove their version of events.

I think you lost a "not" in there somewhere.

about a week ago
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Once Again, Baltimore Police Arrest a Person For Recording Them

TangoMargarine Re:How about criminal charges ... (514 comments)

How likely is it that they'd get the message, though? If they lose the reelection, do they think "this is probably because people are still mad about that officer beating that dude 3 years ago", or "the voters are just morons"?

about a week ago
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Once Again, Baltimore Police Arrest a Person For Recording Them

TangoMargarine Re:Fire all the officers? (514 comments)

I disagree. There should be an elevation of discipline that should start with a written warning

It sounds like they already *were* warned. Repeatedly.

about a week ago

Submissions

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Machining A TI-89 Aluminum

TangoMargarine TangoMargarine writes  |  more than 4 years ago

TangoMargarine (1617195) writes "Sometimes, expensive calculators hit the floor. It’s happened to almost anyone with a graphing calculator from TI or HP. Sadly, they don’t always bounce. After this happened to [Howard C.], an Industrial Engineering student from U. of Iowa, he decided to spend $50 on milling his own replacement case out of aluminum rather than trashing the device over a broken battery compartment."
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"Zero Day"

TangoMargarine TangoMargarine writes  |  more than 4 years ago

Wikipedia has this to say about "zero day exploits": A zero-day (or zero-hour or day zero) attack or threat is a computer threat that tries to exploit computer application vulnerabilities that are unknown to others or undisclosed to the software developer. Zero-day exploits (actual code that can use a security hole to carry out an attack) are used or shared by attackers before the software developer knows about the vulnerability.

I wish every exploit could just be called an exploit (sans "zero day" in front of everything) unless it's specifically 1) a vulnerability the company has chosen not to fix, or 2) a vulnerability some guy somewhere knew about but hadn't used in order to keep it valuable. It's like if we were to start calling Microsoft Office "Microsoft Office for Windows" incessantly. It's assumed, unless you're specifically on a Mac or running it in WINE or something.

I'm pretty sure. Amiright?

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Ha, You're A Horrible Person!

TangoMargarine TangoMargarine writes  |  more than 4 years ago

What is up with the term Homophobia? It's an alarmist umbrella term for anyone who disapproves of homosexuals for any reason, while in every other use, the suffix "phobia" only describes an irrational fear. From Wikipedia:

Phobia: "an intense and persistent fear of certain situations, activities, things, animals, or people"
Homophobia: "a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards homosexuality and people identified or perceived as being homosexual. Definitions[1][2][3] of the term refer variably to antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, and (irrational) fear"

I disapprove of homosexuality, but I don't have an irrational fear of it. So I would probably be labeled homophobic.

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