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Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

The Rizz Re: Why does this need a sequel? (298 comments)

She picks up a gun and shoots him in the head while he isn't paying attention. Anyone can do that.

Someone who's never handled a gun in their life can just pick one up and easily hit a target that small from across the street, in bad lighting, in the rain?

about a week ago
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Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

The Rizz Re:Why does this need a sequel? (298 comments)

If it were certainly either way, the film would lack artistic merit, and just be a slow-paced effects movie with a good soundtrack.

Blade Runner came out in 1982. Until the Director's Cut came out in 1992, there was no ambiguity about if Deckard was a replicant; the basic assumption was that he was not. For 10 years it was considered a great movie without any uncertainty about Deckard's humanity - not a "film lacking in artistic merit" as you assume.

about a week ago
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Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

The Rizz Re: Why does this need a sequel? (298 comments)

I'd also rebut your assertion that Deckard being human makes for a more interesting story by saying that Deckard being a replicant makes for a more interesting story. That's really just a subjective perception.

True. "More interesting story" is purely subjective. I mostly only said it to rebut the previous poster's opinion that having Deckard as a replicant was the more interesting story.

about a week ago
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Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

The Rizz Re:Why does this need a sequel? (298 comments)

Why does it hurt you so bad that Deckard is replicant?

Because it makes it a worse movie if he is. Why does it hurt you so bad if Deckard isn't?

He's a replicant! Not only some details of the movie makes more sense with Deckard being a replicant,

Very few make more sense, and far, far more make less sense. Add onto that fact that the story is intended as a Frankenstein scenario and it makes even less.

but Ridley Scott said so. It's his movie, so the fact is there's nothing to discuss!

It is not "his movie". Ridley Scott did not write the script. Writers' intent is much more important than director's intent. Every single writer on the project says Deckard is not a replicant. So, in your own words, "it's [their] movie, so the fact is there's nothing to discuss!"

Why do you, emotionally, refuse this simple fact? You act like someone deeply religious who can't face the fact that his guru is just a scammer. Why?

I have reasoned proof behind my arguments. You have the word of one person involved in the movie, who is widely believed to have only said what he did to stir up controversy leading up to a re-release.
Who is acting like "someone deeply religious who can't face the fact that his guru is just a scammer" now?

about a week ago
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Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

The Rizz Re: Why does this need a sequel? (298 comments)

Besides, his eyes are shown to display the same refractive property (the red glow) as all the other replicants including the owl in Tyrell's office.

That was an unintentional trick of the lightning. In the original script (and even the original filmed scene) the owl was not supposed to be a replicant. Rachel's line about the owl being real/fake was changed in editing as they decided that instead of it being real (and thus showing Tyrell's wealth) they wanted it to be fake (and thus show Tyrell's talent). Rachel's line that it is fake was overdubbed after the scene was filmed - you can even lip-read her original line where she says it's not fake.

about a week ago
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Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

The Rizz Re: Why does this need a sequel? (298 comments)

Deckard, then, is programmed to believe he's human, so he'll work that much harder to bring down the other replicants. Making him fear for his life even helps him prevail against the extra-deadly Roy Batty. Wouldn't you agree that this makes for a more interesting story? Otherwise, it's just an action film in which the good guy wins, but he doesn't quite get the girl.

No, this makes for a much less interesting story that is just an action movie. The more interesting story is the one where an ex-cop who believes his job is tantamount to legalized murder is begrudgingly bullied back into the job after thinking he was out. Throughout completing said job, he believes more and more that the replicants are, emotionally, just as human as everyone else. By the end he has as much empathy for the replicants as he does for actual humans. It is this theme of blurring the lines between human and non-human through the eyes of a human that is central to the story. Making Deckard a replicant nullifies this, as a replicant having such empathy for other replicants, or humans for other humans, is considered normal. It is the crossing of lines - Deckard's desire to save Rachel, as well as Batty's final act of saving Deckard - both human and non-human showing compassion for the other, that gives the film's ending such power. Making it just about replicants only giving a shit about other replicants ruins that message.

Besides which, although Deckard was originally written as human, Ridley Scott considers him to be a replicant.

Ridley Scott was the director, and only the director. The writers - the ones who actually wrote the script - said he's not, and writers trump directors and actors when figuring out the intent and messages every time.

So either Deckard was a replicant, which is pretty cool, or all the hints that Deckard was a replicant were just red herrings

So, Deckard was a replicant, which is pretty lame, and all the deep philosophical meanings of humanity vs. inhumanity, and the lines of such blurring, were just red herrings?

Simply put, nearly every single bit of "proof" that Deckard is a replicant I've seen is something that either has symbolic use in the Frankenstein-esque story that BR is (which requires Deckard to be human to work), or is something that is being taken out of context by recent viewers compared to what it would have meant in the early 80s when BR was filmed.

about a week ago
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Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

The Rizz Re:Why do I care what Harrison Ford thinks? (298 comments)

What's left that one should not do?

Cowboys vrs. Aliens

Unfortunately, they did that, so what's left not to do would be Cowboys vs. Aliens vs. Predator.

about a week ago
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Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

The Rizz Re:Why does this need a sequel? (298 comments)

That scene was not in the original version. I've only seen the one you have and talked to older people who argue with me on that point until I figured out that was in the "director's cut" versions [...] The voice overs by Harrison Ford were also not in the original as well.

Just to clarify: The original theatrical release had the voice-overs and the origami unicorn at the end (as well as a tacked-on "happy ending" narration over footage from The Shining). Deckard's dream with the unicorn was added in the first Director's Cut version.

about a week ago
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Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

The Rizz Re:Why does this need a sequel? (298 comments)

The unicorn. It's a fantasy in more ways than one.

The unicorn is a man-made creature of great beauty. Both times it's used in the movie it is used in proximity to Rachel. The unicorn is obviously a symbol for Rachel.
Additionally, this leads to the other problem with Gaff's unicorn being proof that he "knows Deckard's dreams" - every other time Gaff does origami (or similar) in the movie, it is symbolic of something going on in the scene - why would only this one instance in the movie be non-symbolic when the other times they so clearly were?

"You've done a mans work." makes more sense if he's not a man.

It's also a phrase that was used in the 70s/80s that meant about the same as "a good day's work".

"She won't live, but then again who does?" makes sense if Gaaf's job is to oversee replicant officers with short life spans.

Or, it makes sense when you're saying that nobody lives forever - that it doesn't matter if they'll only be together for a short time, because they wouldn't be together forever, anyway.

The only humans left on Earth are either poor, criminals, crippled or old. Deckard is not.

Where, exactly, do you get this? There are tons of people in the crowd scenes that are not crippled or old. There is no indication that everyone else (or even most of them) are poor or criminals. Additionally, Deckard was gainfully employed on Earth for years, and is living in retirement - going off-world would only make sense if he needed a new job. Additionally, the audio from the blimps' ads - "a new life in the off-world colonies" - marks those ads as targeting the poor.

Rachel could be Priss's sister. Deckard could be Holden's brother.

This is complete nonsense - Pris was made years ago for off-world use. Rachel is a recent creation to serve as a test subject / surrogate daughter. As far as Deckard and Holden, there is nothing to point to them being brothers.
Side note: Holden is viewed as definitely human in the movie, as if he were a replicant they would never have spent so much effort keeping him alive after he was shot. This points to theories of all the Blade Runners being replicants as being false.

Deckard has the same kind of old picture collection as Leon.

Nope. Leon's collection is of a small amount of pictures he took himself, of him and his friends. Deckard's collection appears to be a large amount of old family photos - none of which he himself appears in. (Even Rachel's photo was supposed to be of herself.)

Deckard plays the piano like Rachel does. Strange for a hard nosed police detective.

Two major problems with this supporting your position:
1) IRL a significant portion of the population plays piano, across all jobs and demographics, so it's not really strange.
2) What would be strange is to add piano playing ability to a set of memories you're crafting for the perfect hard-nosed police detective (unlike if you're doing it for, say, someone's niece). This points to Deckard having a normal human upbringing rather than being a replicant programmed to be a hunter/killer.

Deckard seems to be one step ahead of everyone. I think he has suspected he's a replicant for some time.

Then why would he be so shocked and surprised about Rachel's implanted memories? Also, the "for some time" contradicts with the reasoning for Deckard to be a replicant: Why would they program him and release him into society for years before they need him? They'd program him and use him right away, and not as an ex-Blade Runner, but as a currently active one. He couldn't have been active and quit before they reactivated him, either - if he were a replicant, they'd have killed him when he quit.

Deckard is not a combat unit like Batty but he has the same outlook on life. No sense of humor.

He's a jaded detective who decided that his line of work was basically murder - that doesn't lead to a sense of humor, either. (Also, Batty does have a sense of humor - you see several instances of it throughout the film.)

about a week ago
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Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

The Rizz Re: Why does this need a sequel? (298 comments)

Your interpretation is not an objective fact. There is quite a bit of symbolism is Deckard is a replicant. Deckard's nature is left ambiguous.

The Deckard = Replicant interpretation is not objective fact, either. As for the symbolism, there's both more symbolism leading to him being human, and nearly every piece I've seen that is supposed to point to him being a replicant can also be interpreted to have him be human.

As far as his nature being ambiguous, that'd be fine with me - a little ambiguity is a good thing for a movie.

about a week ago
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Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

The Rizz Re:Why does this need a sequel? (298 comments)

Deckard was not a replicant, according to both PKD and the screenwriter.
The origami unicorn is symbolism for Rachel (both in the dream, and in Gaff's origami message).
Additionally, if Deckard were a replicant, it ruins several layers of meaning in the story, causes other parts of the story to become nonsense, and overall leaves other bits of symbolism falling flat as they only work well if Deckard is human.

about a week ago
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Blade Runner 2 Script Done, Harrison Ford Says "the Best Ever"

The Rizz Re:Why does this need a sequel? (298 comments)

If it isn't based on the "Blade Runner 2" novel, I'll give it a shot. The BR2 novel was one of the worst written messes I've ever seen - it basically tried to be a sequel to both the book and the movie, including all concepts and characters, even when they explicitly contradict each other (including having characters who were renamed for the movie appear as two different characters, regardless of it causing their plotlines to become utter nonsense).

As long as they got a decent writer, and they don't try to force the Deckard = Replicant nonsense in there, I'll be happy.

about a week ago
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The Sony Pictures Hack Was Even Worse Than Everyone Thought

The Rizz Re:I mean, really (528 comments)

If you aren't in Africa, you can do it to.

Even in Africa it's easy. I get hundreds of emails a week from Africans telling me about how they've got $150 million USD and they need my help...

about two weeks ago
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The Sony Pictures Hack Was Even Worse Than Everyone Thought

The Rizz Re:Over what time interval? (528 comments)

100 TB being downloaded even in a week to 10 days is an increase of multiple terabytes a day over whatever they normally use.

You need to pay attention not to raw numbers, but to percentages. If it was a 10 TB per day transferred, whether that will show up as a "spike in data usage" depends on what their normal usage is. If it's 100 TB per day, then yes - a 10% spike would be noticeable. On the other hand, if they're commonly transferring in the petabyte range, we're talking a 1% or less increase - that's within normal daily variances just about anywhere, and would never be noticed.

about two weeks ago
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Finland Dumps Handwriting In Favor of Typing

The Rizz Re:1994 (523 comments)

How about "cursive is so different from person to person, and most people write it sloppy anyway, so just scribble something that looks vaguely right and they'll just assume you know what you're doing but they just can't read it"?

about three weeks ago
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Interviews: Ask the Hampton Creek Team About the Science and Future of Food

The Rizz Re:Well, it's not mayonaise ... (145 comments)

Looking at info on this, it says they've actually never marketed it as "mayonnaise" but instead only as "mayo" ... so they might get by on a technicality on this one.

Also, there is no actual law defining "mayonnaise", just a definition used by the FDA. (Anyone who actually knows care to comment on how binding an FDA definition is to a product line, and if they can change it on the fly to new definitions?)

about a month ago
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Interviews: Ask the Hampton Creek Team About the Science and Future of Food

The Rizz Re:What is it? (145 comments)

So, what is your egg substitute made from, and how have you demonstrated it is safe for human consumption?

Too lazy to Google it yourself?

"The plant that replaces the egg in Just Mayo is a specific variety of the Canadian yellow pea (a type of split pea)."

about a month ago
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Space Tourism Isn't Worth Dying For

The Rizz Re:Not worth it ? (594 comments)

Death rate is not a clear indicator of how dangerous something is. Something more dangerous usually has tighter safety controls, and people are more careful and pay much more attention to what's happening around them in more dangerous jobs.

about a month and a half ago
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Space Tourism Isn't Worth Dying For

The Rizz Re:Well (594 comments)

You're missing the point. Pushing the possibilities of one type of craft can lead to design insights that can be used in other types of craft. Advancement of scientific knowledge can only help the understanding of related fields.

about a month and a half ago

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