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Statisticians Study Who Was Helped Most By Obamacare

TheNastyInThePasty Re:how many small businesses has Obama killed? (614 comments)

I see, so instead of constructively engaging to modify a plan built on a Republican plan, they decided to take their ball and go home. That's so mature of Republicans

The legislative agenda surrounding the 100% partisan ramming-through of the ACA precluded any Republican involvement. The Republicans put forth a constant barrage of their own ideas and (looking back on them) very accurate predictions about all of the wreckage that the ACA is now causing. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi ran the entire show, and shut down any involvement by Republicans.

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The Republicans had no ability to "constructively engage" in the creation and underhanded passage of the ACA. They could only shout out loud about how outrageous so much of it is, since their votes - in committee and generally in the house and senate - were incapable of impacting the law.

I guess this never happened. I quote:

A small group of key senators known as the Gang of Six was once looked at as the key to passing a bipartisan health care bill in the Senate.

But the group of Senate Finance Committee members has, instead, proved a time-sucking bust, with no compromise after months of negotiations and plenty of Senate Democrats peeved at the influence ceded to the gang's GOP members.

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"No public option. No play-or-pay. No things that are going to lead to any rationing of health care. No interference with the doctor-patient relationship," says [Republican] Grassley. "About the only place we haven't made progress along the lines of what Republicans are wanting on the bill is in tort reform."

12 hours ago
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Statisticians Study Who Was Helped Most By Obamacare

TheNastyInThePasty Re:how many small businesses has Obama killed? (614 comments)

Lets look at the history of the Affordable Care Act, a.k.a. Obamacare. Back in 2008, then-presidential nominee Barack Obama ran a campaign with healthcare reform as one of its central issues. He advocated for universal healthcare but opposed an individual mandate. However, after input from experts that claimed that government-guaranteed healthcare would encourage too many free-riders, Obama decided to include an individual mandate as a central part of his healthcare reform efforts.

The individual mandate is largely credited as an idea by the conservative think-tank The Heritage Foundation as an alternative to a system in which the government pays for healthcare. It required each person to pay for their own healthcare and was proposed by Republicans during the Clinton era as a free-market solution that embodies the tenant of personal responsibility that Republicans claim to hold.

Once adopted by the Democrats and proposed in a bill on September 17, 2009, the Republicans staunchly opposed the measure. The Republicans, some of whom have been around long enough to have supported a similar bill during the Clinton administration, claimed that the individual mandate was an unconstitutional assault on freedom.

After 3 weeks of debate and town hall meetings, the bill passed through the House of Representatives and was sent to the Senate. The Democrats attempted to gain the support of moderate Republicans like Olympia Snowe, Bob Bennet, Mike Enzi, and Chuck Grassley. However, the moderate Republicans found themselves subject to intense pressure by the party to fall in line and oppose any healthcare reform effots.

The bill continued to be opposed by conservatives in the Senate who claimed that the bill's "public option" was a deal-breaker. The public option was government-run healthcare insurance that would be available to people alongside private health insurance in the market. Conservatives claimed that the public option would put private insurance out of business because the government is under no pressure to compete or turn a profit. After over 3 months of debate, the public option was dropped from the bill. Senator Grassley was quoted as saying:

"No public option. No play-or-pay. No things that are going to lead to any rationing of health care. No interference with the doctor-patient relationship," says Grassley. "About the only place we haven't made progress along the lines of what Republicans are wanting on the bill is in tort reform."

Despite this, it still took several last-minute concessions for conservatives to get the bill passed through the Senate on December 24, 2009, with support from independents and conservative Democrats to overcome the Republican threat of fillibuster.

The bill languished in the House of Representatives for 3 more months. In order to gets the admendments made to the bill back in the House, the Democrats had to win support from pro-life Representatives who worried that the bill would allow federal funds to be used to pay for abortions. To assuage anti-abortion politicians' fears, Barack Obama signed an executive order on March 21, 2010 to affirm that no federal funds could or would be used to fund abortions. The amendments were finally passed through the House and signed into law by Obama on March 23, 2010 (over 6 months after being proposed).

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Judge Says EA Battlefield 4 Execs Engaged In "Puffery," Not Fraud

TheNastyInThePasty Link... (95 comments)

The link in the summary leads to "Sapphire manufacturer and Apple agree to part ways “amicably”" GJ Editors

about two weeks ago
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Bill Gates: Piketty's Attack on Income Inequality Is Right

TheNastyInThePasty Re:Let me get this right (839 comments)

I want to state, for the record, that I know that 10,000x is actually REALLY low for a gold and diamond encrusted watch....

about two weeks ago
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Bill Gates: Piketty's Attack on Income Inequality Is Right

TheNastyInThePasty Re:Let me get this right (839 comments)

One person can only buy so much.

There are far more things available for purchase than any one person's money can buy; he'll run out of money before he runs out of things to buy or time in which to buy them. Consider politicians, they're very expensive and don't even stay bought!

Technically you're right but you miss the point. How many jobs does he support with his demand for a gold and diamond encrusted watch that costs 10,000x more than a normal watch? A whole lot fewer jobs than 10,000 normal watch buyers can support. Those normal people drive the economy with their demand, not the rich guy.

Money saved at a bank doesn't stay in Scrooge McDuck's money bin; banks need to loan it out so that they can offer interest, pay their employees, and make a profit. Most of the money in savings accounts is loaned out to allow housing construction.

So the bank takes the money and... invests it. Refer back to my argument about investing in the previous post. Who's going to buy houses when there's no middle class? Who's going to start or expand their widget business when most people can barely afford their food and rent?

about two weeks ago
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Bill Gates: Piketty's Attack on Income Inequality Is Right

TheNastyInThePasty Re:This looks like a nasty trick. (839 comments)

What businesses will be looking to expand in an economy where the wealth concentration is going in the direction it is now? Without a middle class to spend money, there is no demand. Business expansion is driven by demand and demand only. There is no other reason to expand, there is no other reason to hire new workers.

about two weeks ago
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Bill Gates: Piketty's Attack on Income Inequality Is Right

TheNastyInThePasty Re:Inequality isn't harmful (839 comments)

You're wrong. Income inequality is harmful. And not just because it hurts poor people's feelings.

Demand, people buying things, is what drives the economy. Person A that makes 100x the money that Person B does, doesn't add 100x the demand to the economy. One person can only buy so much. So, then, Person A's extra money is either going to go into savings (not good, that money is lost, as far as the rest of the world is concerned) or the money is going to go into investing. Investing plays an important role in the system but it cannot be the basis of the economy, no matter what anyone tries to tell you. Workers are hired and businesses are expanded for no other reason than to fulfill demand.

This is why income inequality is bad. Its growth strangles the economy by shifting money from the masses, who would use that money to drive the economy, to the few who will just put the money into savings when there is nothing worth investing in.

about two weeks ago
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Bill Gates: Piketty's Attack on Income Inequality Is Right

TheNastyInThePasty Re:Let me get this right (839 comments)

Demand, people buying things, is what drives the economy. Person A that makes 100x the money that Person B does, doesn't add 100x the demand to the economy. One person can only buy so much. So, then, Person A's extra money is either going to go into savings (not good, that money is lost, as far as the economy is concerned) or the money is going into investing. Investing plays an important role in the system but it cannot be the basis of the economy, no matter what anyone tries to tell you. Workers are hired and businesses are expanded for no other reason than to fulfill demand.

This is why income inequality is bad. Its growth strangles the economy by shifting money from the masses, who would use that money to drive the economy, to the few who will just put the money into savings when there is nothing worth investing in.

about two weeks ago
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Conservative Groups Accuse FCC of Helping Net Neutrality Advocates File Comments

TheNastyInThePasty Re:If the libs are for it... (283 comments)

There would never be enough choice in ISPs that Net Neutrality would be unnecessary. It's simply too expensive to run a dozen or more lines to each home. Even if locals opened up land access to more competition, it's likely that the few small/medium companies that actually popped up would be bought up by their larger competitors. We'd wind up with the same thing we have in the cellular service industry: a few choices, but none of them good. The ISPs that are left will always favor "fast lane" style service because it is going to be profitable for them.

about a month ago
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Could Maroney Be Prosecuted For Her Own Hacked Pictures?

TheNastyInThePasty No (274 comments)

Shut the hell up Bennet.

about a month ago
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Adobe Photoshop Is Coming To Linux, Through Chromebooks

TheNastyInThePasty Re:How important is that at this point? (197 comments)

Allow me to add one gripe. Creating an outline for text in GIMP requires creating a selection from the text, creating a new layer, growing the selection to the outline size, and filling the selection with the new color. WTF? What if I want to change the text now? I have to redo those steps all over again because the outline is in no way associated with the text. It's just a separate object. That's absurd.

about a month ago
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Scientists Seen As Competent But Not Trusted By Americans

TheNastyInThePasty Re:Fox News? (460 comments)

No, YOU must have missed the whole Climategate thing.

Eight committees investigated the allegations and published reports, finding no evidence of fraud or scientific misconduct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

about a month ago
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Scotland Votes No To Independence

TheNastyInThePasty Re:Hmm... (474 comments)

Congress basically refused to allow him to close it.

It's a military base and he is the Commander in Chief, is he not? How does he not have the authority to close the base?

And then do what with the detainees? No one in America dared invite them into their state.

about a month and a half ago
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Comcast Tells Government That Its Data Caps Aren't Actually "Data Caps"

TheNastyInThePasty Re:Sigh (341 comments)

I have never seen a commercial for home internet service that is explicitly unlimited it's usually:

Blazing* Fast** High-Speed*** Internet**** Up to***** 50****** megs******* for only******** $69.99 per month*********

* Our lawyers advise us to tell you that we are not liable any house fires that may or may not be related to your internet equipment.
** When compared to dial up internet from 20 years ago
*** Only available during off-peak hours
**** Until we decide to deny access to websites that don't pay us for the privilege of being carried to our customers
***** But never actually anywhere near....
****** Random number picked out of a hat, you'll never actually get this
******* Bits? Bytes? Who cares! (Personal story: I asked the Comcast salesmen if he meant megabits or megabytes when he said "50 megs" and he had no idea...)
******** Introductory rate for new customers only. We will double the rates in 3 months after joining
********* Plus taxes, fees, extra charges, and tribute payments

about 2 months ago
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Among Gamers, Adult Women Vastly Outnumber Teenage Boys

TheNastyInThePasty Re:They're not gamers. (276 comments)

The way I see it, calling someone who only plays Candy Crush a gamer is like calling someone who only plays Putt Putt a golfer. As for the number of hours and the amount of dedication, they can be indicated with qualifiers like "Occasional", "Casual", or "Hardcore".

about 2 months ago
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Study Finds That Astronauts Are Severely Sleep Deprived

TheNastyInThePasty Re:Would YOU be able to sleep in space?? (106 comments)

I don't think I would be able to. Every moment in space feels like you're on a roller coaster drop. Your stomach constantly feels like it's in your throat. Not even the tightest strap can make your internals feel like you're back on solid ground. It would be amazing to experience space but awful to live there without some kind of artificial gravity.

about 3 months ago

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