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Linux Developers Consider On-Screen QR Codes For Kernel Panics

ToasterMonkey Re:Wish other OSs did this... (175 comments)

Anything's an improvement over:
"My computer froze."
"What happened?"
"It put some message on the screen."
"What did it say?"
"Something about an error."
"What error?"
"I dunno. It had some numbers and letters and stuff."

"Show me!"
"I already rebooted it."

Personally I would rather have a more sophisticated crash dump system, like other OSs, because whatever is going to fit in a QR code isn't going to help much unless you're looking up known issues in an enterprise Linux vendor's bug database. That's assuming they can cram a stack trace into QR codes, AAAAND you have a problem that leaves a predictable stack trace.

I don't remember the last time I had a Solaris system crash that didn't leave a dump (try not to giggle). It would have be be way back pre-ZFS, on a janky server without a dump partition. I'm also reading that Windows saves memory dumps to the page file going back to XP.

You go into the average Linux environment and even if it's not a "paid support is for wusses" camp, you are _EXTREMELY_ unlikely to have anything of value to send to support. Maybe your hawt X86 firmware will have logged an issue! ROFL.

Reboot and hope for the best :\

about two weeks ago
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The 3D Economy — What Happens When Everyone Prints Their Own Shoes?

ToasterMonkey Re:Like photo printers (400 comments)

Remember how photo printers put photo shops out of business?

Well, yes. I haven't seen any photo shops lately. "1 Hour Photo" is dead. Kinkos has photo printers, and so do the local CVS and Walgreens, but they're not used much. Nobody has an in-store film processor any more. Palo Alto still has Keeble and Shugat, a high end photo equipment store with pro darkroom services. Redwood City has some wedding-photographer types and some commercial printers. That's about it.

It wasn't the photo printers, it was the digital cameras, it was the keeping them on a computer instead, mailing a CD, emailing, and texting them that did these places in.

Lack of demand... same reason people aren't buying printers so much anymore.
Why own a printer and buy ink when you can just bring your sd card to a Walmart and have them print for you?

Even after people stop wanting nice shoes, Walmart is going to have a nicer, more efficient shoe printer than you will, unless you are a shoe retailer yourself.

about three weeks ago
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Spinoffs From Spyland: How Some NSA Technology Is Making Its Way Into Industry

ToasterMonkey Re:Time for a code review? (44 comments)

In 2011, the NSA released 200,000 lines of code to the Apache Foundation.

it may be time for people to start looking for the backdoors that the NSA may have put into Apache.

When a /. post conflating Apache Foundation and Apache HTTP Server gets moderated up highly "Insightful", a hacker dies.

Nobody has ever thought of scouring httpd, the "The Number One HTTP Server On The Internet", the most common application you'll find exposed directly to the Internet, for back doors or security vulnerabilities. No, nobody never thought of that, thanks for your insightful comment.

about three weeks ago
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Plan 9 From Bell Labs Operating System Now Available Under GPLv2

ToasterMonkey Re:On Debian that's allready done. (223 comments)

If you have daemons that keep falling over and needing restart, you're already at the hack stage.

What do you mean IF, it just happens from time to time for a variety of reasons. This is an incredibly basic problem in multiprocess systems.
It's like saying IF your computer crashes and needs to be restarted... in a datacenter, it's a matter of WHEN.

In both cases, absent an expected, non-rectified reason for them to crash, the immediate action for a human operator is... try restarting it.

If the dependancies are programmatically declared (a Good Thing in itself), we can automate this. It's not a hack, because machines are NEVER perfect. The "recoverable" error rate adds up when you tie bunches of them together. So does the "non-recoverable" rate... so why not do what we can to address it? This is why we put things like Xeons and ECC memory in data centers, it's the only way to scale out the number of machines, and ultimately processes.

about 2 months ago
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Is Whitelisting the Answer To the Rise In Data Breaches?

ToasterMonkey Re:Already Possible (195 comments)

Newer versions of Linux can already do this. Using the integrity measurement architecture, module signing, and Secure Boot it's possible to have a system where almost any change is detected. I'm currently trying to get it all working on my machine right now, but it's slow going. Here's hoping that distros start shipping with this set up by default. http://lwn.net/Articles/488906...

A shorter term security measure that more users/Distributions should take is making the root partition read only. I know Android already does this, but it really does help. Something that I would really like to see is an easy to use per application firewall. Cgroups mean that I don't even have to worry about it just spawning a child process. Yes, I want to play this game in wine. No, I don't want it to access the internet. No, wine refuses to run it as a different user, much less one with lower privileges.

Take it from a former Solaris admin, difficult to maintain over-engineering is not the answer. It will fail, and users will hate you.

Question of the day: Why are single user smartphone OSs better at segregating processes than server OSs in the first place? Even while using basic UNIX features to do it?

These classic UNIX systems kind of need to roll over and fall into their graves already. I mean look at what you get with VMWare ESX, then look at iOS/Android, then look at say.. a RHEL-type classic UNIX server.

Where is a modern datacenter OS with the flexibility, availability, resource accounting, process separation of ESX, and the developer friendly frameworks and "It's The Apps Stupid" focus like iOS or Android?

Well, it's not with Linux...

about 2 months ago
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Snowden Used Software Scraper, Say NSA Officials

ToasterMonkey Re:Stunning. (227 comments)

There's zero reason to believe the NSA's version of this and every reason to believe Snowden's

Why?

Because, so far, every single thing that Snowden has said has turned out to be true when cross-checked. And, so far, every NSA official spokesperson has been caught repeatedly lying.

Once you start using absolutes, we're past the point where every single thing you want to believe is true, and every single thing you don't is a lie.

Consider that.

about 2 months ago
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Snowden Used Software Scraper, Say NSA Officials

ToasterMonkey Re:How Many More NSA Employees? (227 comments)

Now the question is, how many other NSA contractors / staff / moles / spies have been doing the same thing, without Snowden's intention to disclose their behavior?

Is this some variation of "If a tree falls in the woods, and nobody is around to hear it, and it hits a mime, does anyone care?"

about 2 months ago
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Snowden Used Software Scraper, Say NSA Officials

ToasterMonkey Re:Wow... (227 comments)

Knock me over with a feather, spooks. You fucking hired people to build what is probably the largest collection of signals intelligence scraping systems on the planet, targeted at a wide variety of differently structured systems. Why would you even consider, except as a last resort, the notion that you are dealing with a bunch of noobs?

Someone made a comment that the collection was automated and you read all THIS from it? To the people in the position to know the volume of data taken, the fact it was automated is obvious.

Do you think it isn't?

Do you feel good attacking that straw man?

about 2 months ago
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Schiller Says Apple Is the Last PC Maker From the Mac Era, Forgets About HP

ToasterMonkey The title is wrong (474 comments)

The quote is

"Every company that made computers when we started the Mac, they're all gone, we're the only one left. We're still doing it, and growing faster than the rest of the PC industry because of that willingness to reinvent ourselves over and over." said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of worldwide marketing

As far as making personal computers before Apple and still doing it, I think it's a stretch to count HP because of a calculator, and I'm not even counting HP's attempt to get out of the PC market recently. The HP-150 that came out after they started working on the Mac... is that even in the same ballgame as the 1984 Mac, I don't think so.

Apple started on the Mac in 1980 from what I can tell.

The nitpicking is really skewing his point - HP is ALSO still around because they've had to reinvent themselves over and over.

about 3 months ago
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What Would It Cost To Build a Windows Version of the Pricey New Mac Pro?

ToasterMonkey Re:Why is this a surprise? (804 comments)

The Mac tax has always been about the actual parts they use and that there are cheaper alternatives. For this comparison, they try to match the parts exactly. That of course is going to cost more because you are paying 3rd party markup prices while Apple is being direct from the manufacturer. The article even admits that you can buy things like a different video card that is equivalent for half the price. The question isn't if you can make the exact same system (or as close as possible) for cheaper but whether you can make an equivalent system for cheaper, and the answer to that is almost always yes.

So, you could build a battle tank or an F1 car with cheaper alternative parts, like.. the engine and wheels off my old Mustang. No matter how much hand waving you do, the scrap metal I bolt on the side is not the same as reactive armor.

If you need the uptime assurance that Xeon, ECC, FireGL whatever provide, then using desktop grade components is not the same thing, and you aren't fooling anybody actually in the market for those things.

about 4 months ago
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What Would It Cost To Build a Windows Version of the Pricey New Mac Pro?

ToasterMonkey Re:Hard to believe (804 comments)

Yeah, quite. The base Mac Pro actually turns out to be fairly reasonably priced for the combination of components inside, but - and this is important - there is essentially no reason to get that combination of components unless you have no other choice because you're buying a Mac. For instance, they're paying out quite a bit of extra money in order to fit everything into a smaller case, even though that'd actually be a downside for many customers. Also, most of the professional applications out there that use GPU acceleration can only make use of a single GPU, so the second $3400 GPU will be sitting completely idle for most Mac Pro buyers. What's more, as the article mentions many apps run better on NVidia GPUs anyway. Also, how many of the GPU-accelerated apps can also make full use of a 12-core CPU?

Whoa, I thought you were going to say something about the Xeon and ECC memory. What exactly is highly unusual about the video card and number of cores?

This thing is built with server grade equipment, so my wild guess is that means they intended it to have very long uptime, and again, what's highly unusual about that in a high end workstation?

Look, we don't all need to drive tanks to work, but some do. The rest of us don't need to play the "I could build a tank for less, but without the turbine engine, armor, or tracks" game. Well, you can do that, but they are just going to be laughed at by the people that drive tanks, and what else matters...

about 4 months ago
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What Would It Cost To Build a Windows Version of the Pricey New Mac Pro?

ToasterMonkey Re: Hard to believe (804 comments)

It's not Linux's fault that the developers of Final Cut Pro and Lightroom specifically chose *not* to support Linux. It is also not Linux's fault that both Apple and Adobe guard and keep their programs' source code secret, so it is impossible for anyone else to compile it for anything other than the operating systems that these two companies choose to compile these programs for themselves.

At some point it IS the fault of the RedHats, the Oracles, the Canonicals, the SUSEs etc. for not attracting ISVs.

Or, if nobody is trying, what's the point of laying blame elsewhere?

about 4 months ago
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How Ya Gonna Get 'Em Down On the UNIX Farm?

ToasterMonkey Re:It's an Exclusionary Club (606 comments)

Essentially this.

I had a prof who would do all his lectures & demos from the command line.
Need to write a short C program to demonstrate forking? Boom! Into vim and coding up a basic example in a minute or two.
Typo in his LaTeX slides? Boom! Switch over to fix it, then recompile the slides, and on with the lecture.
Student asks a question about a command line argument? Boom! Man pages up on the big screen.

It was a little intimidating to see this CLI master hopping around typing crazy little combinations of letters and making magic appear on the screen, but at the same time it was inspiring. It was an example of what we could aspire towards.

Why don't we have command lines... with GUIs?

Like your slideshow example, there are plenty of cases where you have a command line interface to something that's easier to understand visually, or a graphical interface to something that could also be driven quickly via command interface. Yes, even low level system tasks like drilling down into directory structures using the most space, or working with historical performance analysis and statistics is more efficient with visual feedback.

Hey, look at any modern first person shooter game, point and click graphical interface, AND an interactive console. 'nuff said.

I feel bad for people who see this simply as an either/or subject, we should be looking for progress not clinging to old ways, just because.

about 4 months ago
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India Cautions Users On Risks Associated With Virtual Currencies

ToasterMonkey Re:Bitcoin Could be Big Environmental Story (121 comments)

Nations like India, which have restrictions limiting women's ownership of land, have the highest per capital consumption rate of gold. Gold mining is the single most environmentally destructive man-made activity on the planet (toxics, carbon, and encroachment into rain forests). If families in India can pay dowry with Bitcoin, I'm all for it.

Dowry is messed up, but I think they'd use cash, household items, and even animals before bitcoin.

"Bitcoin: When you have nothing better to trade."

about 4 months ago
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Surge In Online Orders Overwhelms UPS Christmas Deliveries

ToasterMonkey Re:Fucking WAAAA. (378 comments)

'While others take vacation and time off in December, remember we aren't allowed ever to be off in December. Ever,' said a 20-year veteran UPS driver on the UPS Facebook page. 'So when you see your family and complain that your package is held up, everyone who moves your package is working and doesn't get the Xmas experience you get, Be thankful for that.'"

Hey, fuck you, buddy. They told you that shit about not taking time off during the busiest shipping season of the year when you took the job 20 fucking years ago, and probably reminded you every year since, so don't try to play the fucking victim here. Plus, "Dur, I had to work" is a really, really piss-poor excuse for failing to meet your work obligations, now isn't it?

I don't really get to take a lot of time off, period, but you don't see me using that as an excuse to suck at my job.

Why are you attacking this guy, A DELIVERY DRIVER? He wasn't complaining about his job, he's DOING IT. He's just the fucking messenger, moron, please post pics of lazy UPS drivers snacking at Krispy Kreme's if you have em. Fuck you, asshole.

about 4 months ago
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An Anonymous US Law Enforcement Officer Claims US Wouldn't Arrest Julian Assange

ToasterMonkey Re:I could imagine a truth buried behind this (399 comments)

They might not arrest him. They might just shoot him.

Since when is wishful thinking +Insightful?

about 5 months ago
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An Anonymous US Law Enforcement Officer Claims US Wouldn't Arrest Julian Assange

ToasterMonkey Re:The European Official is Clearly Missing Someth (399 comments)

so while it may not be corrupt, its laws are not the same as in the U.S.

And your point would be... what?

about 5 months ago
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Germany: We Think NSA May Have Tapped Chancellor Merkel's Cell Phone

ToasterMonkey Re:Shocking (267 comments)

So you wouldn't mind one of your friends tapping your phones?

If your spouse does it, you what, fire them?

Welcome to the complex world of diplomacy.

about 6 months ago
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How To Lose $172,222 a Second For 45 Minutes

ToasterMonkey Re:This is what I like best about /. (327 comments)

In the same thread where I can find 1000 people going on about how efficient capitalism is I can find another (sometimes the same) 1000 people complaining all the dumb things their companies do. Well, which one is it? It doesn't work both ways people. Could it be that people are people, no matter what banner they're organized under?

I dispute your assertion that a market cannot both be efficient and have people complaining about it.
Further, I believe lots of things can be dumb and efficient, like plants. /goodnight

about 6 months ago
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How To Lose $172,222 a Second For 45 Minutes

ToasterMonkey Re:Failure of best practices (327 comments)

No proper change management, no peer review, no proper lab testing. Dev should always reflect production to the greatest reasonable level. No proper maintenance windows. You should never be surprised by a change in production. This is a case study in incompetence and the failure to execute industry best practices. I'm guessing the guy or gal who raised the best practices flag was ignored as being inconvenient or too expensive.

If I'd done this kind of thing when I was working with the exchanges I would have been fired in a heartbeat. Whoever failed to utilize best practices, or whoever failed to allow the utilization of best practices had damn well better have been fired. This is incompetence of the highest level and a perfect example of why ITIL based best practices were born.

I didn't read TfA, but from TfS, none of what you said would solve this problem, or a better way to put it is they all could have actually taken place to a reasonable degree.

Is it generally expected or practical to test combinations of versions of the same software in a cluster? Only automated testing could catch a problem like that, and you'd need a simulated production workload.
A "reasonable" development environment would NEVER reach that far. That is a very above average QA environment.

Of course everybody would LOVE to have that, but I doubt that is widely considered a best practice.

At the other end, a monitoring system should have flagged the condition where all nodes are not running the same revision, and discovered new nodes automatically.

Another big "nice to have".

Sure they could have taken measures to prevent this kind of problem, I'm not disputing that, but to generalize the problem as no change management, peer review.... um, no sir.

about 6 months ago

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