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How the World's Agricultural Boom Has Changed CO2 Cycles

Vintermann Re:Problem? (185 comments)

No, wild vegetation doesn't behave very much like a cornfield, that's the point. An oak tree binds up carbon for much, much longer. Thus you don't get the same wild swings.

3 days ago
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The Software Big Oil's PR Firm Uses To "Convert Average Citizens"

Vintermann Re:Heh... (108 comments)

Honest question LynnwoodRooster: Are you, in any way, paid for promoting particular views?

about a week ago
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The Software Big Oil's PR Firm Uses To "Convert Average Citizens"

Vintermann Re:Heh... (108 comments)

There's another effect. That is that the one side is already doing something pretty evil, and they know it. That makes it easier for them to be evil in their PR activity too. If you've decided to root for the bad guys for some reason, you're probably not going to worry about fighting clean.

It's no coincidence that astroturfing really took off with the tobacco industry.

about a week ago
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Elusive Dark Matter May Be Detected With GPS Satellites

Vintermann Re:Explain it like I'm five (67 comments)

You could still have some fun by flipping a few magnets, and watching the ripples spread as a wave throughout the universe

There's got to be at least a novelty toy hidden in this idea.

about a week ago
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Longtime Debian Developer Tollef Fog Heen Resigns From Systemd Maintainer Team

Vintermann Re:Who are you calling "immature twats" ?? (550 comments)

Add to that the increasing hard dependencies, like with window managers that expect systemd to offload session management and login onto and I'm not sure how feasable holding out on systemd is anymore.

Well, this is developers voting with their feet, isn't it?

about two weeks ago
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Crowd-Sourced Experiment To Map All Human Skills

Vintermann Re:Nice try but ... (70 comments)

More likely multiple graphs, since "skills" are abstract categories, and abstract categories are made things that ever knowing subject creates for themselves, with only approximate overlap between them. So what I mean by "interpreted language" and what you mean by "interpreted language" are going to overlap substantially, but we will draw the edges of our attention differently. Some borderline cases you will call "interpreted" and I won't, and vice versa.

That's a problem ten times more subtle than the problems they already have. I wanted to see if they had the skill "four-part choral harmonisation". It's art, right? But right away there's a problem. Performing music is a performing art, but writing music is not a performing art. They put composition under art-performing art-music-composition, and what's under composition?

Only one thing. Score reading. Which is obviously not a more specific skill of composition.

about two weeks ago
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How To End Online Harassment

Vintermann Re: here we go (834 comments)

the whole thing about trading favourable reviews for sex

Ah, that thing. Tell me, where is it? I gave you the link, so now please tell me where exactly he says it.

(Hint: he doesn't. Nowhere in it does he say anything about reviews at all. This was a masterful case of the "denying something else" media narrative strategy, the equivalent of strenously and truhfully denying that you murdered anyone when what you're accused of is theft. You can only pull it off if the media is really on your side.)

rant

Judge for yourself. No, not you serviscope minor, anyone else reading. (You're a lost case, as are most people who strongly committed to a position without researching it).

dumped

He dumped her, in fact.

got banned form many forums

Ah, he must have been guilty, otherwise he would not have been punished.

about two weeks ago
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How To End Online Harassment

Vintermann Re:The right to offend ... (834 comments)

Its not about what its OK to be offended about: its that THREATS of EXTREME VIOLENCE are not okay.

And no one says they are. But if you get an anonymous death threat,

1. you don't get carte blanche to assign the blame for the threat to any group or movement disagreeing with you, and

2. you don't get to conflate this with the "harassment" of people loudly disagreeing with you on twitter. It is not the same thing at all.

about two weeks ago
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How To End Online Harassment

Vintermann Re: here we go (834 comments)

for being women ... for being men.

Who are you who have insight into the ultimate motivations of harassers?

I have as a basic assumption that men are no better than women, and vice versa. If there's some way of being evil that's dominated by one sex, then you can assume that is not for lack of evil in the other sex, but rather that they have some other way of living out their malice.

It's a doctrine of faith in some circles, that you should not only believe the victim, but not question the victim's interpretation of events. If she says the motive of her harassers is that she's a woman, then you're a monster for questioning that (even if the "harassers" deny that it was harassment, and assert other motivations for it.) This is obviously and blatantly abused in "social justice" circles on the internet.

Let's NOT take gamergate as an example. Let's take the Requires Hate drama instead - there you have identity feminists on both sides, both sides claiming to represent the true, unsubjugated, authentic feminism, defender of all minorities. There's this hate blogger, Requires Only that you Hate, who has a long history of "criticizing" fantasy authors, stalking them for years, saying they deserve to be raped by dogs and have acid thrown in their faces etc. She used to get away with it for a long time. Why? Because she always claimed to "kick upwards". If you're a man, you're obviously fair game. If you're a white lesbian feminist, you're fair game too. If you're an asian, you're still fair game if you are "diaspora". You're mixed race? well fuck you, appropriating scum! Don't you dare write about your minority parent's culture!

Now, she was "doxxed". Her identity (or rather, her literary pseudonym, as opposed to the blogging one) was exposed by a friend of hers - she is a well-known Thai writer - and people started assembling the pieces. It looks like she has systematically targeted competitors. Especially competitors in the niche of "writing for the oppressed". More and more people come forward with stories of whisper campaigns she's waged, open hostility, stalking for years, online community after online community that has went down in flames from her warfare. And she has been at this for almost 15 years.

How? By saying the right things, with unshakeable conviction. By using the social justice people's own rule about "tone policing" - that you're not allowed to protest against the ways an "oppressed person" lashes out at her "oppressors". For over a decade she's played them like a fiddle, for personal gain and personal satisfaction. The social justice people's beliefs have a hole in them wide enough that a psychopath can drive right through it with a truck and set up shop. The "cheap moral glow" of siding with someone righteously proclaiming their oppression, was a tool she used to build an army that could make a talk radio host green with envy, to sic on people who fell afoul of her or competed with her.

I've said "her" throughout. But technically, we don't even know that. So even for the purpose of protecting/advancing minority women, the SJ crowd's own principles fail disastrously. There's no reason to think Requires Hate even believed in the rhetoric she was spouting.

Now, I said let's not use Gamergate as an example. But let's, now. Most of anti-gamergate missed one rather important thing: the initial post was a callout of a similar nature.

The ex-boyfriend of Zoe Quinn had story to tell about infidelity, emotional abuse and cynical career promotion - he told it because he had come to the same conclusion that the social justice folks in SF/Fantasy now believe about Requires Hate - she may not even believe those things, she certainly uses them with extreme cynicism for selfish ends.

And is he right about that? Judge for yourself. But the echo chamber, and the media's smear campaign (probably motivated by the media's desire to cover their own ass - they don't come off looking to good from the zoe post) has made sure that most don't even know that it started with a warning about an abusive person.

about two weeks ago
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New Website Offers Provably Fair Solutions To Everyday Problems

Vintermann Re:The ice cream method (167 comments)

That's the kind of ad-hoc solution that doesn't work, and people have actually been using math to find better ones. Go tell it to your dope fiend buddies.

about three weeks ago
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Meet the 36 People Who Run Wikipedia

Vintermann Re:So what does not work? (140 comments)

Selective enforcement is the name of the game. For just about anything disagreeable, you can find a rule to banish from wikipedia - as long as you know the game and have the clout.

about three weeks ago
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Meet the 36 People Who Run Wikipedia

Vintermann Re:Wiki hype (140 comments)

All content that is of no political or economic importance, they would rather see on Wikia. Wikia is for profit, they can make money off your work there. That is, in a nutshell, why wikipedia is deletionist.

On wikipedia proper, the only reward they get is being able to control narratives. Wikipedia policies give plenty of wiggle room to include and exclude certain facts and frame things to one side's benefit, especially if you're an insider in their culture, know how to play their game. Thus, controversial issues that people are likely to search for will never be out of scope for wikipedia.

about three weeks ago
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Meet the 36 People Who Run Wikipedia

Vintermann Re:Meet the 36 People Who Run Wikipedia (Poorly) (140 comments)

"Held accountable for what? This total free resource I can use with no strings attached"

Have you noticed something? Wikia is wikipedia's sister project, but it is for profit, unlike Wikipedia. Wikia has an immensely high google rating. If you make a wiki about a specific topic on your own site, spend a long time building it up, some random person making a wikia wiki with the same name will easily outrank you in google searches.

If your project started out on wikia, woe to you. You can come in, but you can never leave. If you tire of the ads, and the people who worked on making the wiki decide to move to a private server, you will be forever fighting your abandoned wikia wiki in Google rankings. They won't let you take it down. They won't even let you link to the new wiki. Even if every single person who ever worked on the wiki supports the move, an admin from Wikia will swoop in and put a stop to it.

And over on wikipedia, "deletionists" won long ago. One of the main reasons they won is that content that's forced off wikipedia and over to Wikia, is pure profit for Wikipedia's owners.

these guys have to deal with and moderate with various personalities and entities constantly trying to pervert Wikipedia

They are their own worst enemy in that regard.

about three weeks ago
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Meet the 36 People Who Run Wikipedia

Vintermann Re:Meet the 36 People Who Run Wikipedia (Poorly) (140 comments)

Possibly the reason nobody pays attention to them is that they are good at not being seen, not being acknowledged, and coordinate in private to suppress dissent and present a common front. It's always "wikipedia is against you", not "the steward is against you".

about three weeks ago
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Is the Outrage Over the FBI's Seattle Times Tactics a Knee-Jerk Reaction?

Vintermann Re:Astroturfing for the FBI? (206 comments)

So you're thinking of your career prospects. Carry on soldier, these are the citizens the security state needs!

about a month ago
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Secretive Funding Fuels Ongoing Net Neutrality Astroturfing Controversy

Vintermann Who are you? (56 comments)

"although the term is so overused by people looking to discredit political opponents that it has nearly lost its original meaning"

Right. Says who?

A small group defending special interests, trying to create the impression of popular support, that's astroturfing. I bet the companies who do it hate how common the word has become, and how people have become familiar with the concept. I'm sure they would complain that it's "overused". I disagree, I think it could be used a lot more, and all internet forums with any redactional integrity should be on guard for this.

about a month ago
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Bill Gates: Piketty's Attack on Income Inequality Is Right

Vintermann Re:Let me get this right (839 comments)

Consumption taxes are inherently regressive. A poor person has to spend (consume) all his income, a rich person can afford to use it to get more money instead. Not to mention that when time comes to consume it, the rich guy can buy his yacht in New Zealand, or wherever they don't have a consumption tax on yachts.

It would also be horribly intrusive/impractical to make an increasing consumption tax, they would need to keep track of everything you buy.

The charitable interpretation is that Bill Gates doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. The less charitable interpretation is that he knows.

about a month and a half ago
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How English Beat German As the Language of Science

Vintermann Re:Plus ca change (323 comments)

Hamburgers are still hamburgers, though.

about a month and a half ago
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How English Beat German As the Language of Science

Vintermann Re:I am SHOCKED! (323 comments)

You don't really need to rebuild much to do the kind of stuff the Germans were best at. As German was at its high point as the language of science from 1880 to the outbreak of the first world war, mathematicians like Georg Cantor, David Hilbert, Gottlob Frege, Kurt Gödel, Ernst Zermelo, Dedekind, Felix Klein and Richard Dedekind were active. Then there were the physicist like Albert Einstein, Max Planck, Werner Heisenberg, Erwin Schrödinger and Arnold Sommerfeld. You can kind of understand why German was used for math and physics.

about a month and a half ago

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