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What Happens To Society When Robots Replace Workers?

Waffle Iron Re:Yet another clueless story on automation (539 comments)

Your repetitive "developed vs 3rd" world red herring is tiresome.

We're talking about future developments that will apply everywhere.

4 hours ago
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What Happens To Society When Robots Replace Workers?

Waffle Iron Re:Yet another clueless story on automation (539 comments)

You certainly could get to a point where it's just too much of a bother to even keep track of a low-achieving human employee vs. having a robot do it. Those people could essentially become unemployable. Some people could be encouraged to try harder to achieve, but in many cases you can't get blood out of a turnip. Every year the percentage of people who fail to make the grade could increase as robots gain capabilities.

I'm sure your fine with that because they're receiving what they're worth. But if it's not handled correctly, these hoards of "useless" people could end up stepping out of your little free market box, turning into angry mobs and burning everything down.

yesterday
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What Happens To Society When Robots Replace Workers?

Waffle Iron Re:Yet another clueless story on automation (539 comments)

If the demand for productive labor can be filled by more robots, the value of human labor can still stay at zero.

yesterday
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The Beatles, Bob Dylan and the 50-Year Copyright Itch

Waffle Iron Re:How soon? (133 comments)

What "actual issue"? I just soundly disproved everything you stated.

There must be some kind of vague concept in your head that you can't seem to actually express, but you're just sure that I "don't get it".

yesterday
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What Happens To Society When Robots Replace Workers?

Waffle Iron Re:Yet another clueless story on automation (539 comments)

The whole point of this topic is that as the supply of labor (provided by workers and/or robots) goes up, the value goes down. Eventually, many people's market value may end up to be essentially zero vs. robots, regardless of what kind of country they live in. You would then probably advocate that we encourage them to work for free; problem solved!

The approaches of the past may not apply it all in the potentially a drastically different future dominated by self-directed automation.

yesterday
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What Happens To Society When Robots Replace Workers?

Waffle Iron Re:Yet another clueless story on automation (539 comments)

The problem is that median wages have been stagnating for decades.

Your solution to the problem is to lower them further.

yesterday
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The Beatles, Bob Dylan and the 50-Year Copyright Itch

Waffle Iron Re:How soon? (133 comments)

People like you can't seem to wrap your heads around the difference between the physical product of some unit of manual labor, and the creation of an idea.

I know that they're completely different. Copyright fanbois are the ones who don't realize that copyrights are a ham-fisted attempt to make an infinitely replicable idea seem more like a physical object via creating artificial scarcity through government fiat.

And the differences don't apply to my point: You do some work. You get paid for it. Then you should move on and do more work. Your grandchildren should not be able to charge rents a century down the road based on artificially created scarcity without having to do work themselves. That makes no economic sense.

Compare the value of all the tea in crates on docks in Boston harbor in 1776 against the intangible ideas expressed in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution, and tell me which was more valuable.

Indeed those documents were very valuable. Somehow they even got created without the benefit of copyright protection or ownership rights by their authors. How could that be? Maybe it's because copyright is highly overrated in the first place.

yesterday
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The Beatles, Bob Dylan and the 50-Year Copyright Itch

Waffle Iron Re:How soon? (133 comments)

Actually, if made it past childhood, life expectancy back then wasn't dramatically less than it is now. It certainly wasn't 5X less, like the copyright terms were.

I can also never figure out why anybody gives a damn about the lifetime of the author. The crew that mudjacked my driveway 20 years ago are probably still alive. None of them are showing up here demanding tips when people park on my driveway.

yesterday
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The Beatles, Bob Dylan and the 50-Year Copyright Itch

Waffle Iron Re:How soon? (133 comments)

Yes, the public should be allowed to profit from the work of others.

That's exactly true, and in fact that's the reason that the US Constitution plainly states that copyrights are to be granted only for limited times. The founders of this country clearly wanted the public to profit from the works of others, after as little as 14 years.

yesterday
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The Dominant Life Form In the Cosmos Is Probably Superintelligent Robots

Waffle Iron Re:Life form? (378 comments)

In what way is a "robot" a "life form"?

If they're able to manufacture more robots, then it's life... but not as we know it.

2 days ago
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Critical Git Security Vulnerability Announced

Waffle Iron Re:I blame Microsoft (145 comments)

Why stop there?

They should also add a spell checker and auto-correct to the file system driver just to make sure people haven't made any mistakes.

2 days ago
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Spacecraft Spots Probable Waves On Titan's Seas

Waffle Iron Re:Oil Reserves. (82 comments)

I like how the body of water is measured in "Oil Reserves".

It's a body of methane, not water, and it is chemically much more closely related to oil than water. So it arguably makes more sense to compare it to the amount of oil on earth than to the amount of water.

4 days ago
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How Birds Lost Their Teeth

Waffle Iron Re:Wasn't there a book about this? (138 comments)

The conditions species live in aren't constant. Advantages of A and/or B fluctuate over time. If an animal has A, and the environment suddenly favors B, those closer to B win. For a while some animals will have both.

However, every feature comes at an energy cost, so animals quickly let what they don't need atrophy. If in the current environment B beats out A+B minus extra energy to generate both, then they will settle at B only.

At any rate, every organism is a mixture of thousands of features, from A0 to Z99999, many of which get added and deleted all the time, so your whole argument is bogus to begin with.

5 days ago
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How Birds Lost Their Teeth

Waffle Iron Re:Wasn't there a book about this? (138 comments)

Look at today's flying squirrels. It's not hard to figure out how you get from walking mammals to this species, nor from flying squirrels to fully winged creatures. Why would it be any harder for insects to follow the same path?

about a week ago
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How Birds Lost Their Teeth

Waffle Iron Re:Wasn't there a book about this? (138 comments)

The example I use is Butterflies, which change from a crawling creature to one that flies, mid life. Incredible "random" feat if you ask me.

It's not random. The ability for adult insects to fly evolved gradually. That has nothing to do with the fact that insects go through metamorphosis, which most likely evolved independently and prior to the capability of flight

Your argument makes as much sense as saying: "I don't believe evolution because people can talk using air even though they spend 9 months sealed up in a bag of water."

about a week ago
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Utilities Face Billions In Losses From Distributed Renewables

Waffle Iron Re:That day (280 comments)

You may like living in the stone age, but most of us would rather be comfortable.

One o the best ways to stay comfortable is to not get your home destroyed by the crazy weather created by your cheap electricity rates.

about two weeks ago
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Using Discarded Laptop Batteries To Power Lights

Waffle Iron Re:American wastefulness at its finest (143 comments)

And it doesn't matter if someone else wastes something that isn't yours

Yes, it does matter.

about two weeks ago
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Which Programming Language Pays the Best? Probably Python

Waffle Iron Re:Why program in Python (277 comments)

Would you care to enlighten us with an example of a popular real-world language that has not had problems with backwards compatiblity?

about three weeks ago
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Stars Traveling Close To Light Speed Could Spread Life Through the Universe

Waffle Iron Re:I don't understand this ... (184 comments)

I can maybe see the life evolving in one of these solar systems after it leaves the black hole area, presuming the atmospheres of planets aren't scoured away by high-speed interactions with the interstellar medium.

However, how could this life "spread"? I don't see how you slow down any complex molecules from these speeds without totally incinerating them.

about three weeks ago

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