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Project Zero Exploits 'Unexploitable' Glibc Bug

Wrath0fb0b Re:Honestly, when will people learn? (97 comments)

An acquaintance recently posted "Six Stages of Debugging" on his g+ page. (1. That can't happen, 2. That doesn't happen on my machine, 3. That shouldn't happen, 4. Why does that happen? 5. Oh, I see, and 6. How did that ever work). Doesn't an software dev who has been working for more than about three years go straight to No. 4?

Absolutely true for debugging. But there's a few steps you missed.

Somewhere near 3-4: Ok, how bad would it be if that happened? Does it recover without user intervention (i.e. service crashes and cron restarts it)? Does it recover with user intervention ("did you turn it off and back on?)? Does it lose user data (oh poop)?

The question here (which is altogether not trivial) is exactly this: "how bad would it be if we wrote an extra '\0' somewhere"? And what geohot did was answer that in the most productive way possible - by actually showing with a real example that the impact is major and permanent. If you aren't explicitly doing assessment of the impact of your bugs for schedule/priorities then you must be doing it implicitly somehow because most projects have more bugs than coders/time.

There's another step you missed, happens probably at step 10 or 11 and probably not by the developer that fixes the bug -- given the impact and the risk of the fix, when/how should this be deployed? Should it be backported to the stable releases? Do we have to ping everyone downstream? Is this so bad we should post on /. telling everyone to pull the emergency fix ASAP or else zombie Putin will kill Natalie Portman?

Again, if you aren't doing this step explicitly, it's either happening implicitly or else you are just letting it land whenever/however.

2 days ago

$125,000 Settlement Given To Man Arrested for Photographing NYPD

Wrath0fb0b Re:precedent (231 comments)

There's already binding precedent in the Circuit that covers NYS.

Tunick v. Safir, 228 F.3d 135, 137 (2d Cir. 2000)
loom v. Levy, 159 F.3d 1345 (2d Cir. 1998).

I'm not sure what another case would prove -- the appellate courts are loath to repeat themselves.

about two weeks ago

Suddenly Visible: Illicit Drugs As Part of Silicon Valley Culture

Wrath0fb0b Re:The only good thing (511 comments)

The (heartless) thing about it is that drugs are not too different from many other things in society that are used by rich and poor alike but harm the latter much more.

The rich are far more likely to own firearms than the poor and far less likely to shoot someone or be shot.
The rich buy far more alcohol than the poor but are far less likely to drive drunk or be alcoholics .
The rich do far more drugs than the poor but are far less likely to become non-functional addicts.
The rich are far more likely to waste their education on party schools than the poor but are less likely to suffer the career consequences.
The rich and the poor engage in about the same amount of premarital sex but the former are less likely to have kids out of wedlock.
The rich gamble more often than the poor but are far less likely to become chronic gamblers.

To my mind, this suggests that the ultimate cause of these problems isn't the particular vices, but rather the cultural and economic context around them that causes them to be destructive. We should work at fixing that context, along with providing opportunity and support for everyone to work towards their own success, rather than wasting our time on proximate causes.

about a month ago

Firefox 33 Integrates Cisco's OpenH264

Wrath0fb0b Re:Trusting a binary from Cisco (194 comments)

The only thing you can cryptographically sign is a binary. The rest is inspection by hand which won't scale.

about a month ago

Robot With Broken Leg Learns To Walk Again In Under 2 Minutes

Wrath0fb0b Under two minutes of bullshit (69 comments)

Hey, I can make all kinds of tasks faster by precomputing much of the work and then looking it up in a table. Congratulations, you've (re)discovered another instance of a Space/Time tradeoff.

Now, in particular what they've done is still wicked cool -- it's a great idea to perform may millions of simulations ahead of time so that at runtime (heh) you can quickly draw on that data to adapt. It would be perfectly good research even without the over-the-top claim that they've somehow made the work faster as opposed to cleverly pre-computing much of it.

But that's research -- you do something neat and then you make a ridiculous overstatement to generate buzz ...

about a month ago

Firefox 33 Integrates Cisco's OpenH264

Wrath0fb0b Re:Trusting a binary from Cisco (194 comments)

No. In fact it's absurdly difficult to reliably create reproducible builds. Debian has been working on this since at least 2009 (afaict) and has been plowing through issues but you still can't get an identical Kernel as the .deb. Heck, it was 8 weeks just for the Tor browser.

It's not just the compilation tools, it's the entire build environment that needs to be homogenized. All kinds of components will insert uname/hostname and paths into the binary, filesystems list the contents of a directory in undefined order, timestamps and permissions are embedded into tarballs and documentation, different locale produces other weirdness.

tl;dr: it's much harder than just installing an identical version of clang and hitting make.

[ And, as an aside, this goes back decades. The infrastructure around builds was never designed with reproducibility as a design goal. We are basically retrofitting this new requirement on decades of legacy code that never even considered that we would want such a thing ... ]

about a month ago

Lyft's New York Launch Halted By Restraining Order

Wrath0fb0b Re:Why are the number of cabs [artificially] limit (92 comments)

If the USA is the bastion of freedom, capitalism and independence, why are cab licenses limited by city bureaucrats? Why not let everyone who qualifies swim in the taxicab business leaving those who cannot stand the waters perish? I just don't get it!

Because historically taxis have engaged in a number of fraudulent and unsavory practices, outright racism in some cases and have generally made cities look bad. So there was a legitimate reason to regulate them in order to ensure that they didn't bilk (or take the long route) for gullible tourists, refuse rides to people of the wrong color, install fake meters, organize into a racket to overcharge customer or skip on carrying decent insurance.

Then, lo-and-behold, the well-meaning regulators were captured by the taxicabs (because they were smart) and turned around and instituted any number of illegitimate regulations designed to stifle competition. This is generally pretty easy in a democracy because when there's a small number of cabbies with a very large interest in certain policies, they can often get their way when there are a large number of citizens with contrary interests. It's the law of diffused costs versus concentrated benefits.

So now, instead of being predictably idiotic with our left/right pro/anti regulation, maybe we should think about stupid regulation versus smart regulation. Then we could distinguish a rule require cabbies to carry insurance for their passengers with one that limits the number of medallions to some artifical number. Or one that requires accurate metering of any form with one that requires a specific brand or type of metering. Or a law that requires cabbies to serve any part of the city with one that requires them to drive home from the airport empty instead of picking up a fare immediately after dropping one off (this one really I don't understand -- there is a line for cabs at the terminal!).

On the other hand, nah, let's just hurf about it....

about a month and a half ago

Ask Slashdot: How Often Should You Change Jobs?

Wrath0fb0b Re:We can thank corporate America (282 comments)

Part of the problem is that it's easier to hire new folks than to reallocate existing ones without getting into political turf wars -- let alone shrinking some departments* that don't need the headcount. This means that the utility of a new employee is automatically greater than one that's been there forever, even if they are equal in skill, just because they can be put in the most useful position.

This is a facet of downwards-stickiness -- it's easy to tell an overstaffed* department that they don't get to hire new folks, it's nearly impossible to tell them to give up folks. But both of those are equivalent in terms of overall allocation of resources.

* Note: I don't mean to say that these folks are incompetent, only that demands change and a team that might be stretched thin one year because of a large project might have few demands the next. In fact, it's exactly the opposite -- the most talented teams end up overstaffed because they build things well and end up without much maintenance to do, rather than constantly chasing their tails duct-taping things up. We should be moving talent from those teams to where it's needed the most.

about 2 months ago

U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

Wrath0fb0b Re:Actually not /all/ corporations are covered ... (1330 comments)

Who ever said that the IRS definition for the purposes of taxation is the correct one to apply to a RFRA claim over contraception?

I highly doubt that the Waltons would qualify, given that billions of dollars of WalMart stock is held and traded publicly.

about 2 months ago

U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

Wrath0fb0b Actually not /all/ corporations are covered ... (1330 comments)

The opinion restricts itself to "closely-held corporations" (a phrase used dozens of times) rather than /all/ corporations. They don't define with precision what that exactly means -- that kind of drudgery is the domain of the lower courts -- they did point out that Hobby Lobby is privately held by a small number of folks from the same family. It would seem clear to infer that "closely-held" is sort of an antonym to "publicly-held" here, so I think there's virtually no chance any lower court would allow Wal Mart or Exxon to assert a RFRA claim.

Now, since companies under 100 employees are already exempt from most of PPACA, the net net of this only covers the rare company that simultaneously large enough to be hit by the mandate but still owned closely enough to merit RFRA protection. In other words, not too many in the scheme of things.

[ Full Disclosure: I don't support what Hobby Lobby believes, I think they deserve to lose on the merits. But at the end of the day, I'm not going to make a molehill into a mountain for rhetorical or fundraising purposes. ]

about 2 months ago

Improperly Anonymized Logs Reveal Details of NYC Cab Trips

Wrath0fb0b Re:Error so popular it was enshrined in PCI DSS (192 comments)

Yes, you are right, I mistyped.

Public: { H(CC+Salt), Salt, Amount of money spent on porn, Amount of student debt }

[ where + is just shorthanded for "mixed with" ]

It's not at all within the realm of possibility for an attacker to brute force the CC space for each salt separately. So yes, an attacker can run through (2**CC_entropy) hashes to brute force a single entry, but that exercise provides him no help when he goes to do the next entry. Moreover, he can't spin up a few TB of storage on S3 and pre-compute anything useful.

The point of the scheme is to turn a pwn-once-win-forever game into a pwn-one-win-one game. This guy paid once and won the entire database. I would like him to have to pay that cost once for each entry.

about 2 months ago

Improperly Anonymized Logs Reveal Details of NYC Cab Trips

Wrath0fb0b Re:Error so popular it was enshrined in PCI DSS (192 comments)

Yes, a secret salt is no salt at all.

But there are very important uses for salting that make it better than assigning a random number -- it allows someone that does know the input value look up the relevant entry without any involvement from the secure side.

Imagine you had the following two datasets that you've partitioned:

Private: { Credit Card Number, Random Salt }
Public: { H(CC+Salt), Amount of money spent on porn, Amount of student debt }

Now whenever you want to obscure an entry, you do need to go to private one. But if you want to answer the question "How much money did a person with CC X spend on porn", you can look it up without entering the secure domain. But no one without access to the private side can find credit cards in the DB or other stuff -- to within the computational costs of the operation multiplied by the entropy of the salt.

about 2 months ago

Improperly Anonymized Logs Reveal Details of NYC Cab Trips

Wrath0fb0b Re:Error so popular it was enshrined in PCI DSS (192 comments)

Yes, which is exactly what the person in this article actually did -- he created a lookup table to accelerate brute-forcing the entire released dataset.

And yes, there are a trillion credit cards. But if each one gets a random 32-byte salt added to it, then that's a 4-billion-trillion input space ...

about 2 months ago

Improperly Anonymized Logs Reveal Details of NYC Cab Trips

Wrath0fb0b Re:Error so popular it was enshrined in PCI DSS (192 comments)

Um, the standard is fine. The phrase "One-way hashes based on strong cryptography" means (to any professional in the business) that one must salt the hash with sufficient entropy to make brute-forcing the input space impossible. So 16 digit CC has little entry, but add a 16-byte hash and you've somewhere.

So yeah, "strong cryptography" can't fix stupid, but those that know how to use it are plenty fine.

about 2 months ago

Yahoo's Diversity Record Is Almost As Bad As Google's

Wrath0fb0b The ethnicities of my tech workplace (435 comments)

And this is counting just those around me:

East Asia: Han, Cantonese, Korean, Japanese,
Indian Subcontinent: Telugu, Tamil, Sinhalese, Punjabi,
West Asia: Syriac, Turkmen, Arab, Persian,
North Asia: Slavs of all flavors,
Europe: Scandinavian, Germanic, Anglo-saxons, Castilians,
Africa: Hamitic, Bantu,

Looks pretty diverse to me, at least once you get past the crippling simplicity of the "White/Asian/Black/Latin" universe in which the race-baiters are forever trapped.

about 2 months ago

Scientists Race To Develop Livestock That Can Survive Climate Change

Wrath0fb0b Re:Vegetarian (291 comments)

I also hate to be the one to point this out, but given a free choice much (not all) of the world population starts consuming meat once given the economic means to do so.

In a world that seems to be lurching towards greater individual autonomy and personal choice, your solution does not strike me as likely to get off the ground. At the end, you'll either have to adopt more and more coercive action to meet your goal or accept that there are billions of independent agents with different preferences.

about 4 months ago

Born In the NSA: These Former Spies Are Starting Companies of Their Own

Wrath0fb0b Re:These days I think it's safe to assume (57 comments)


It's an interesting conundrum. We can at least try to pass laws to prevent our governments from spying us, but even if we succeed we can't very well pass a law forbidding others' governments from doing what they will.

Ultimately, I don't see a solution that's plausible here.

about 4 months ago

Texas Family Awarded $2.9 Million In Fracking Lawsuit

Wrath0fb0b Re:No middle ground anymore. (146 comments)

1) I would love nothing else for petro-power to become economically unsustainable with respect to renewables. Currently, that's not the case even with massive green-power subsidies. Here in CA, power prices are pushed ever higher as they push the mandates higher.

2) Functional regulation also requires a principled opposition that is willing to focus on actual deliverables rather than scoring points.

3) There is no way that global warming is going to be solved by regulations on the extractive industry, so this is a non-goal in this domain. If we want to try for a comprehensive solution to AGW, it needs to be done across industries and across countries. Global problems cannot be solved locally.

Now proper regulation would raise costs significantly and put pressure on finding REAL solutions sooner which is why environmentalists want to use them to prohibit dirty industry growth

This is exactly the problem, you are effectively deciding on the solution rather than the goal. If it's possible to pump crude out of Alaska without spilling it on the tundra, then you should be in favor of it. To the extent that safety requires raising the cost, that's an acceptable tradeoff, but it absolutely is not the goal unless you are just being obstructionist instead of productive.

Nuclear power is a great example. A still functioning regulatory system makes nuclear power more costly than solar PV. This is still the case with the large government subsidies involved in that industry already.

I worked in nuclear for a while. Most of the cost increase goes to lobbyists and lawyers to fight the other guys' lobbyists and lawyers. Which is all that the nimbyciles have every really accomplished -- making the industry grease the same palms that they are doing with at least as much dough.

[ Kind of ironic actually -- the fight against the parasitic plutocrats only spawns more plutocrats. Perhaps that's a sign about why it's unproductive not to engage with problems directly and find solutions. ]

I keep hearing other nations do a better job deciding such things; like Canada for example.

You mean that country that's pissed off we are stalling our decision on the giant pipeline to transport their oil from the tar sands?!

Truth be told, I've heard they don't care what the answer is since if we say no they'll build the pipeline to the Pacific themselves, but they wanted the stability of shipping it to us. Such a shame really to keep them in limbo, since they can't go elsewhere until we've officially said no too. But yeah, that oil isn't going to the stay in the ground in any event.

about 4 months ago

Texas Family Awarded $2.9 Million In Fracking Lawsuit

Wrath0fb0b The rapidly disappearing middle ground ... (146 comments)

We are not anti-fracking or anti-drilling. My goodness, we live in Texas. Keep it in the pipes, and if you have a leak or spill, report it and be respectful to your neighbors. If you are going to put this stuff in close proximity to homes, be respectful and careful.

Yeah, pretty much this.

We all know that extraction companies do idiotic and careless things and don't give a fuck about safety -- either of their workers or of the environment around them.

We also know that a lot of environmentalists advocate the complete cessation of fracking and drilling even though that makes no practical sense (for now).

And so we've lost the middle ground of wanting a strong extractive industry with strong environmental safeguards and a culture of safety grown up around it. It would be a strategic error for companies to adopt such a policy in a situation where environmentalists are going to oppose them politically and legally anyway no matter what they do. And it would be a strategic error for environmentalists to advocate for responsible extraction given that the companies are going to weasel out of it anyway.

I know where we want to go, I think it's certainly technologically and economically feasible to extract oil and gas without damaging the environment. But the way we pursue it is fundamentally broken on all sides.

[ And none of this is intended to be negative. I consider myself an environmentalist and a technologist FWIW. ]

about 4 months ago

Supreme Court OKs Stop and Search Based On Anonymous 911 Tips

Wrath0fb0b Re:That wasn't the question (461 comments)

Dude with 30lbs of marijuana in an uncovered truck bed.

I hate the War on Drugs as much as the next /.er, but seriously, if you have that much weed you can probably afford a hard-top or a van or something.

about 4 months ago



Revelations on the French Big Brother

Wrath0fb0b Wrath0fb0b writes  |  about a year ago

Wrath0fb0b (302444) writes "Days after President François Hollande sternly told the United States to stop spying on its allies, the newspaper Le Monde disclosed on Thursday that France has its own large program of data collection, which sweeps up nearly all the data transmissions, including telephone calls, e-mails and social media activity, that come in and out of France. The report notes that "our email messages, SMS messages, itemised phone bills and connections to FaceBook and Twitter are then stored for years."

For those /.ers that grok Français, you can read the original at Le Monde or the translated version from LM. The NYT also has a writeup on the story."

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US Supreme Court upholds First Sale doctrine for works manufactured abroad

Wrath0fb0b Wrath0fb0b writes  |  about a year and a half ago

Wrath0fb0b (302444) writes "The US Supreme Court reversed the $600,000 fine for a student who imported cheaper textbooks from Thailand and resold them for a profit in the US. The ruling affirms that the exclusive right of importation is subject to the same limitations (first sale, archival, fair use) as the restriction on reproduction and that a book bought abroad by a lawful assignee of the copyright is "lawfully obtained" for the purposes of the First Sale doctrine. The dissent focused more closely on the intent of Congress in passing the Copyright Act, and called the Court's decision a "bold departure from Congress’ design" and said it was at odd's with the US treaty position on copyright exhaustion. The opinion is also notable for the odd lineup, with three of the Court's liberal wing joining three of the more conservatives Justices in the 6-3 majority in favor of the appellant (the Court is current split 4-1-4)."
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Facebook iOS App Ditching HTML5 for ObjectiveC

Wrath0fb0b Wrath0fb0b writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Wrath0fb0b (302444) writes "The New York Times reports that Facebook is overhauling their iOS App to ditch their HTML5 based UI for a native ObjectiveC one. This is an about face from their position a few months ago in which FB wonks said HTML5 would allows them to write once run anyhwere. While WORA certainly has a lot of appeal for both programmers (due to desire not to duplicate effort) and management alike (due to desire not to pay programmers to duplicate effort), the large number of negative reviews that FB for iOS has illustrate that this approach is not without drawbacks. No matter how the new app is received, this is more fuel on the native vs. web-app fire."
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CA Governor Vetoes Bill Protecting Arrestees' Cell

Wrath0fb0b Wrath0fb0b writes  |  more than 2 years ago

Wrath0fb0b (302444) writes "The U.S. Supreme Court let stand Diaz v. California, a Fourth Amendment case from California's Supreme Court which held that a cell phone can be searched incident to a lawful arrest. Meanwhile, over the summer, California state legislators passed SB 914, a bill limiting searches incident to arrest in California. Just today, however, California Governor Jerry Brown vetoed the bill stating that the courts are better suited to resolve complex and case specific issues relating to constitutional search-and-seizures protections.

Noted Fourth Amendment scholar Orin Kerr opines that Governor Brown has it exactly backwards and lays out the advantages of the legislature in rapidly-evolving fields such as new technology and their ability to better assess facts, amend the law to reflect the latest technology and disregard precedents that they feel no longer ought to apply. He argues that legislatures are much better equipped than courts to strike the balance between security and privacy when technology is in flux."

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US Supreme Court: Video games qualify for First A

Wrath0fb0b Wrath0fb0b writes  |  more than 3 years ago

Wrath0fb0b (302444) writes "The United States Supreme Court threw out a California law prohibiting the sale of violent video games to minors (signed by a man who would never pander violence to children). Notable in the opinion is a historical review of the condemnation of "unworthy" material that would tend to corrupt children, starting with penny-novels and up through comic books and music lyrics. The opinion is also notable for the odd lineup of Justices that defies normal ideological lines, with one conservative and one liberal jurist dissenting on entirely different grounds. In the process, they continue the broad rule that the First Amendment does not vary with the technological means used:

Video games qualify for First Amendment protection. Like protected books, plays, and movies, they communicate ideas through familiar literary devices and features distinctive to the medium. And the basic principles of freedom of speech . . . do not vary with a new and different communication medium.


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Study on Endowment Effects in IP Transactions

Wrath0fb0b Wrath0fb0b writes  |  more than 3 years ago

Wrath0fb0b (302444) writes "[Disclosure: I'm not involved in any way in this research or Cornell, nor do I know any of the researchers or papers cited. ]

The endowment effect is a long-studied cognitive bias in which owners of property consistently assign it a higher value for sale (WTA, willing to accept) than non-owners for purchase (WTP, willing to pay). This effect is occurs even if the property is assigned randomly, meaning it is independent of the fact that we acquire things we consider valuable or have experienced as valuable. A brief overview of the evidence for the effect, and a number of possible psychological bases for this bias, are discussed in the paper.

This studyis the first to test the extent and manner in which this effect applies to transactions involving IP — that is, non-rivalrous goods. Subjects (undergrads) were divided into three groups based on their order of scheduling: the first third became Authors; the middle third became Bidders; and the final third became Owners. The authors were told to write a poem for entry into a contest, in which the winner would be awarded $50. They were then asked at what price they would be willing to sell their chance of winning — their WTA for the work. Each bidder was assigned a single poem and asked at what price they would be willing to buy that poems chance of winning. Finally, each owner was assigned a single poem, told that they already "owned it", and asked for a WTA for that work's chance of winning.

The results were in line with what one might expect from Endowment Effect literature — Authors and Owners both valued the poems at nearly twice as high as bidders, which is even more interesting because what was being "sold" here was only partial alienation of the property — the author would continue to have the poem for personal use but sold only the winnings from the contest. Even more interestingly, the results do not change much if you allow all the subjects to read all the poems entered into the contest before writing their bids/sells. Nor do they change if you inform the subjects that the winning poem will be selected by lottery instead of by subjective judgment. The conclusions for the rational structuring of IP law are broad and generally point towards a "liability rules" (what we would call compulsory-licensing) over the extant "property rules" (what we would call the current system in which the owner retains the unlimited power to refuse to sell). As the authors put it more verbosely:

Our findings suggest that private transactions in creative goods may face significant transaction costs arising from cognitive biases. These biases in turn drive the price that creators and owners of IP are likely to demand considerably higher than buyers will, on average, be willing to pay. This discovery does not mean, of course, that transactions in IP will not take place — we see such transactions happening every day. Our research suggests, however, both that IP transactions may occur at a frequency that is significantly suboptimal and that the baleful effect of cognitive and affective biases is likely to be more serious for transactions in works of relatively low commercial value or for which no well-established custom or pattern helps to inform valuation. These results have considerable implications for the structuring of IP rights, IP formalities, IP licensing, and fair use.

Most broadly, we believe that our results should inform the ongoing debate over whether IP law is best structured around property rules or liability rules. Additionally, we argue that our results point toward the advisability of copyright re-formalization, which is best achieved via reformulation of copyright as remedies provisions to limit owners of works that are unregistered (and therefore presumptively of low commercial value) to the effective equivalent of a liability rule. Finally, our findings should inform copyright'(TM)s fair use doctrine. Many courts considering the fair use defense already base their analysis, in part, on the presence of significant transaction costs that lower the likelihood that the parties would have negotiated a license and therefore make fair use more appropriate. In light of our findings, courts should consider whether a license for the use at issue in a particular case would likely be subject to significant endowment effects. If so, it is less likely that the parties would have struck a deal as an alternative to the defendant'(TM)s unauthorized use, therefore making a finding of fair use more appropriate.


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OSU Pres Cans Anthrax Vaccine Research on Primates

Wrath0fb0b Wrath0fb0b writes  |  more than 4 years ago

Wrath0fb0b (302444) writes "OSU President Burns Hargis has abruptly canceled an NIH-funded study on an anthrax vaccine on primates, who would then have to be euthanized. Suspicion that the decision was meant to appease large donor Madeleine Pickens, the wife of noted huntsman T. Boone Pickens, who had previously pressured the school over animal-rights issues. Scientists counter that the study was approved by the NIH peer-review process, the Institutional Animal Care and Use Committee (IACUC) and subject to the Federal Animal Welfare Act (by virtue of using NIH money) and that the decision by the President is short-circuited months of planning and deliberation on the matter.

Hargis has denied being influenced by Pickens and cited "confidential factors" that he couldn't discuss, telling the faculty council that "to go through every lurid detail is simply not prudent". A post on Pickens' blog, on the other hand, obliquely takes credit for the "great decision", noting the a faculty hunch that ""generous benefactor to OSU and her ties to the Humane Society of the United States may have played a role in the termination of the project". Meanwhile, the NIH expressed displeasure at the decision, releasing a statement that stated "NIH fully expects institutions to honor these assurances and commitment to complete NIH supported projects as requested, approved and funded". Some OSU scientists speculated that the fiasco would make it harder for them to receive NIH funding in the future.

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