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House Majority Leader Defeated In Primary

bogjobber Re:hahaha! (932 comments)

It's so ridiculous when climate change deniers point out the Antarctic sea ice thing. That is happening despite record temperatures in the high latitudes of the southern hemisphere. There is no doubt that Antarctica is warming at tremendous rates, and if that trend continues the increase in continental ice will obviously be a short-term phenomenon.

about 3 months ago

Are Habitable Exoplanets Bad News For Humanity?

bogjobber Re: Maybe not extinction... (608 comments)

That is an incredibly complicated thing to determine, and is certainly not one-sided like you make it seem. In the 20th century, over a billion people died prematurely due to smoking for example. That's about ten times more people than in every 20th century war combined. Approximately two million people die from occupational hazards each year? How much of that is preventable?

about 5 months ago

Getting Misogyny, Racism and Homophobia Out of Gaming

bogjobber Re:Disable player chat (704 comments)

Pfff... He cited both wikipedia and talk radio. I think he's got a pretty good handle on the situation, Professor Fancy Pants.

about 6 months ago

Microsoft Said To Cut Windows Price 70% For Low Cost Devices

bogjobber Re:Microsoft, the former leader (178 comments)

They're a mess that had $77.85B in revenue last year ($21.86B net), $68B cash-in-hand, and one of the two or three best brands in the world. It will still be a tall order, but you don't need luck when you have those kind of resources.

about 7 months ago

RNC Calls For Halt To Unconstitutional Surveillance

bogjobber Re:Oh, the irony (523 comments)

Sort of. The Patriot Act is simply too large to have been drafted in the timeframe allotted, so we can start with the obvious truth that whoever really wrote it had it on the shelf awaiting an opportunity. That is chilling, and under-reported, enough.

Well, it is certainly true that the intelligence agencies have always hated FISA and the ECPA, and they used 9/11 as an opportunity to push for changes that would never have been allowed in other political climates.

But they didn't literally have it sitting on the shelf, unless you have some sort of evidence to show otherwise. It was a little over a month between September 11th and when the first draft of the PATRIOT Act. That's a reasonable amount of time to bang out 120 pages of legalese, the majority of which were pretty banal reforms.

The problem of governments using crises to rush anti-democratic legislation is horrible enough without making up conspiracy theories.

about 8 months ago

FSF's Richard Stallman Calls LLVM a 'Terrible Setback'

bogjobber Re:...but if you want free software to improve... (1098 comments)

I agree with your general argument, but it's also true that for hobbyist programmers the most popular way to license your code is with the GPL (and anecdotally/IMHO the more useful projects almost always are). I'm sure if more small projects were licensed with the BSD, the prevalence of corporations forking the code and not giving back would be much higher.

Again, I'm not so sure that is the worst thing in the world (and the existence of the GPL for those that want that protection makes it moot anyway) but I absolutely understand the sentiment of people who do not want the code they write to be used by for-profit corporations without any protection for the community. If I'm going to write proprietary code for Apple and Google, they damn well better be paying my salary.

about 8 months ago

Google Fiber Launches In Provo — and Here's What It Feels Like

bogjobber Re:Sounds like this article was written by Google (338 comments)

Apparently "free" in your mind does not include the millions of dollars a year the city government was losing operating the service. Pretty sure that wasn't monopoly money they were spending. Residents can still get a 5mbps synchronous connection for free. Schools are still getting free gigabit. It's just the gigabit residential/business that is $70/month, which is what a fair amount of Americans pay for service that is orders of magnitude worse. Provo City is making out like a bandit. I wish the other UTOPIA cities could get on board.

about 8 months ago

Solar Lull Could Cause Colder Winters In Europe

bogjobber Re:Not the sun (320 comments)

*are clean

about 8 months ago

Solar Lull Could Cause Colder Winters In Europe

bogjobber Re:Not the sun (320 comments)

And you can't forget that bleeding-heart liberal Nixon who founded the EPA. It's a shame we've allowed critical governmental functions like making sure the air and water is clean become partisan battlegrounds.

about 8 months ago

Weapons Systems That Kill According To Algorithms Are Coming. What To Do?

bogjobber Re:No tech advances can stop war (514 comments)

That is not true. The three bloodiest centuries in history were the 20th, 19th, and 18th. The 20th "won" by a large margin.

Even in the last 50 years, you have seen many wars with casualties in the millions: Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iran-Iraq, the Congo, etc. Although they pale in comparison to the World Wars, those are still some of the worst wars in history.

You do have a point to a certain extent. Modern weaponry has, in the last half a century, reduced the likelihood of major superpowers going to war with one another. But as the global population increase puts more pressure on dwindling resources (fossil fuels, water, arable land), I think the possibility of conflict between superpowers is much more likely in the coming decades than it has been recently, and a few regional political conflicts have the potential to explode should thing take a turn for the worse (North/South Korea, Pakistan-India namely).

about 8 months ago

Utilities Fight Back Against Solar Energy

bogjobber Re: There must be a very good reason... (579 comments)

All of those places except Florida have both of those. They are susceptible to drought, but some rather large rivers run through those states.

about 9 months ago

Linux x32 ABI Not Catching Wind

bogjobber Re:What about shared libraries? (262 comments)

Nontrivial doesn't necessarily mean large. It just means significant enough that it needs to be accounted for. The actual cost will of course be dependent on the size and complexity of your codebase.

about 9 months ago

How much of your media do you store locally?

bogjobber Re:All of it (187 comments)

It can be extremely convenient to store application data in the cloud. I use budgeting software that syncs to dropbox, making it possible to switch seamlessly between using the software on my phone and desktop.

That being said, I think the total amount I store on dropbox is about 50MB so it's a very small percentage of my total data.

about 9 months ago

U.S. Measles Cases Triple In 2013

bogjobber Re:Duh (462 comments)

Christian Scientists have been refusing vaccines since their founding in the 19th century. The guy who said stupidity is universal has it right.

about 9 months ago

Getting Evolution In Science Textbooks For Texas Schools

bogjobber Re:ya know... (710 comments)

Well the problem is that once you get past a certain time period, you start to run out of sources. Writing was incredibly rare before the 1st millenium BCE and only existed in certain civilizations. It's not a coincidence that we know more about Greece, Egypt, Persia, Babylon, etc. rather than other civilizations. They were the only ones keeping records! Other civilizations only have oral histories, which are certainly interesting but of highly questionable accuracy.

Also the reason why written sources are more numerous and accurate after around, say, the 6th century BC is because that's when people started writing everything down! Although writing existed before then, there was a massive increase in trade during that time period and that's when writing became commonplace. Scholars believe that was the time period in which the Greek legends as well as the first books of the Old Testament were all written. So there is a period ranging around the 6th century BC to the present where we have continuous (and thus accurate) written history being recorded, a written history of the oral traditions of those cultures (that goes back some time but is of questionable accuracy), and then a time of prehistory where we have no information other than what we can put together from archaeological data.

If you look at that wikipedia page you linked, almost all of those dates are based on archaeological data. The way that works is an archaeologist finds a site that looks promising and starts a dig. They find any artifacts in that area, analyze it, date it, compare it to other sites in the region, and extrapolate information based on that. Other scientific fields are also used to help out: chemistry, genetics, linguistics, anthropology, climate science, all of them are used in constructing history. But that's not very precise and extremely dependent on finding good archaeological data, so that's why you have the lack of precision.

Go back 2,000 years and there is quite a bit of archaeological data. Go back 5,000 years and it is is very hard to come by. Go back 10,000 years and it's practically nonexistent. That's why we know so little of prehistoric civilizations. There's literally no other information other than "There were people here, and they left these types of tools" and maybe some bones or cave paintings.

about 10 months ago

Getting Evolution In Science Textbooks For Texas Schools

bogjobber Re:ya know... (710 comments)

Well, yeah, you have to take that bias into account. You don't just read the Bible and take them at their word for what happened. But you can confirm much of the Bible's historicity via archaeology and referencing contemporary sources.

For example, the Old Testament might say King Johesephus ruled such and such kingdom at such and such time period and he was a terrible, wicked ruler who murdered children and was struck down by God. You can go back and confirm via other methods that there really was a King Johesephus that ruled that kingdom and during that time period. Was he actually as horrible and wicked as described in the Bible? Maybe not. Like you said, the accounts written down in the Bible were from people with a very biased viewpoint so you have to take that into account. But you can confirm or deny a lot of it.

That's what I mean when I say that things in the Bible seem to be fairly accurate after a certain point. Obviously the ancient Jews had their own biases and that has to be taken into account, but we can confirm that many events happened at the same times and places described in the Old Testament. But the further you go back the more inaccurate it gets. The Kingdom of Judah was certainly not the way described in the Old Testament and there is absolutely no evidence for the Jews being enslaved in Egypt, for example.

Compare it to Ancient Greek history. Just because the Illiad is obviously legend doesn't mean the Peloponnesian war didn't happen.

about 10 months ago

Getting Evolution In Science Textbooks For Texas Schools

bogjobber Re:ya know... (710 comments)

It is a nice bedtime story, but there is nothing to cite to show any of it really happened.

That's not true. Much of the history in the Old Testament (I'm not talking about the fables found in Genesis, but the descriptions of kingdoms and events that have been proven to exist) is severely distorted history at best, but much of it is relevant.

Generally speaking the dividing line is the conquest of Babylon by the Persians. Everything before that is more legend than fact. Everything after that is fairly accurate (but obviously highly biased).

about 10 months ago

The NSA Is Looking For a Few Good Geeks

bogjobber Re:world ramifications... (388 comments)

... I see no evidence, quite honestly, that the NSA has the wrong motives.

What about the evidence that the NSA's network is being used for industrial espionage? National security is one thing, but that one's impossible to justify.

about 10 months ago

Skunk Works Reveals Proposed SR-71 Successor: the Hypersonic SR-72

bogjobber Re:SR-71 needed replacing (216 comments)

At Mach 6 I imagine it probably *is* a spacecraft. Pretty close at least.

about 10 months ago



House Rejects Rejects Bailout; Dow Drops 777 Point

bogjobber bogjobber writes  |  more than 5 years ago

bogjobber (880402) writes "The US House of Representatives voted 228-205 to reject the proposed $700 billion bailout of the financial industry. 188 Republicans and 95 Democrats were in opposition. The bill was backed by 140 Democrats and 65 Republicans.

From the article: "Supporters vowed to try to bring the rescue package up for consideration again as soon as possible, perhaps late Wednesday or Thursday, but there were no definite plans to do so.""

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