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Apple: Dumb As a Patent Trolling Fox On iPhone Prior Art?

chrismcb Re:Why it's non-obvious over Microsoft's prior art (408 comments)

Apple was trying to come up with a way to prevent butt-dialing and other unwanted device actions. The point of using a sliding motion is that it's unlikely to happen via random touches, but is reasonably intutive.

Microsoft's video doesn't really show a slider. It shows touch buttons that look visually like sliders. But you can trip them just by touching in the active area for the desired state. This is shown in the video where the demonstrator runs their finger down a column of switches and they all switch. Apple requires an explicit "click and drag" operation to unlock.

From the video "having to use a sliding gesture makes the toggle slightly more difficult to use but greatly reduces the chances of inadvertently switching the toggle" As far as "not really showing a slider" You can't just touch them, you have to slide. When you runs her finger down a column, she is sliding her finger down the column. It is the sliding motion that triggers it. Not just contacting the on or off section. The sliding toggles require an explicit "click and drag" operation to toggle.

about 5 months ago
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Apple: Dumb As a Patent Trolling Fox On iPhone Prior Art?

chrismcb Re:The Slide-to-Unlock Claim, for reference (408 comments)

To show a patent claim is not new, you have to show that a single piece of prior art shows everything in the patent claim. This piece of prior art wouldn't do that, since it doesn't show a hand-held electronic device, doesn't really show "continuous" movement as opposed to switching between several icons, and it doesn't show unlocking a device>

It does show continuous movement. She discusses sliding from one side to another, and that it makes it harder to accidentally switch the toggle.

detecting a contact with the touch-sensitive display at a first predefined location corresponding to an unlock image;

The video clearly shows touch the on or the off section (predefined location)

continuously moving the unlock image on the touch-sensitive display in accordance with movement of the contact while continuous contact with the touch screen is maintained,

The video clearly shows continuous sliding from one side to the other, with the demoer talking about sliding, gesture, and making it harder to accidentally toggle. While she doesn't use the words "continuous" surely that is what she means by "sliding"

wherein the unlock image is a graphical, interactive user-interface object with which a user interacts in order to unlock the device

Both the lever and the toggle appear to be graphical, UI objects that the user interacts with

...results in movement of the unlock image from the first predefined location to a predefined unlock region on the touch-sensitive display

Clearly something can be "toggled" when moving from one predefined location to another predefined location.
The only thing really missing is "unlocking the hand-held electronic device" But the demoer keeps talking about a general concept of "toggling" Surely it is obvious that if you can toggle, then you can toggle anything, including toggling from a locked to an unlocked state.
I'm not a lawyer, but it doesn't seem to me that claim 1 is specific to a hand-held, OTHER than to unlock a hand-held device. But really the brunt of the claim is the touch sensitive display and sliding from one predefined area to another.

about 5 months ago
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Apple: Dumb As a Patent Trolling Fox On iPhone Prior Art?

chrismcb Re:This isn't how patents work... (408 comments)

, hunts down an example of something vaguely similar, and shouts 'look, prior art, prior art! it's invalid!'. This isn't how prior art (or patents) work.

I'm curious why you think this isn't how prior art works?

about 5 months ago
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Apple: Dumb As a Patent Trolling Fox On iPhone Prior Art?

chrismcb Re:Except much of the time they're right... (408 comments)

Did you seriously see anything there that wasn't painfully obvious? All the video demonstrated to me is that Microsoft throws their money away. It struck me as a bureaucratic butt covering move that they hired her to go through these motions in the first place.

Ignore for the moment that this video is almost 15 years old. And consider that many of the problem she brings up are prevalent in a lot of software today. Apple is still making some of the mistakes...

about 5 months ago
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Russians Take Ukraine's Last Land Base In Crimea

chrismcb Re:I dont get it (551 comments)

I guess you are throwing the right of self determination out of the window dude.

A lot of people think the the election was rigged. So I'm not so sure about this "right of self determination"

about 5 months ago
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Is the Tesla Model S Pedal Placement A Safety Hazard?

chrismcb Re:Tesla (394 comments)

Huh? The user was driving the car forward, then he accidentally hit the gas, it kept going forward. So I'm not sure what your point is

about 5 months ago
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AT&T Exec Calls Netflix "Arrogant" For Expecting Net Neutrality

chrismcb He is right, no free lunch (466 comments)

He is correct, there is no free lunch. But I pay a LOT of money to download a bunch of stuff. I should get to choose where I download it from. If I want to use it all on netflix I should be able to, if I want to spread it around some for google, some for wiki, some for slashdot, I should be able to... But it sure ain't free.

about 5 months ago
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Silicon Valley Anti-Poaching Cartel Went Beyond a Few Tech Firms

chrismcb Re:I wish I were oppressed (137 comments)

Recruiters from other tech companies, or recruiters from headhunting agencies?

about 5 months ago
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Silicon Valley Anti-Poaching Cartel Went Beyond a Few Tech Firms

chrismcb Re:is it illegal? (137 comments)

depriving the state and federal government from getting income taxes.

Not exactly. Either the company will pay the taxes, or they pay the employee more, claim that as a deduction, and the employee pays the taxes.
Yes the tax rate for the employee and the company will be different (which is why I said not exactly) and the company might find other loopholes to hide the money. But that is a separate issue.

about 5 months ago
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Inventor Has Waited 43 Years For Patent Approval

chrismcb Re:How could it be valid? (258 comments)

. I wouldn't call this guy an inverter,

Why not? Just because he licenses the things he invents? Or do you believe an inventor should also be the producer?

about 6 months ago
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Ask Slashdot: How Do You Sort?

chrismcb What sort? (195 comments)

How were you originally sorting? Were you partitioning the receipts into separate piles, based on some date? And then taking each pile and sorting them? How is this NOT one of those fancy sorting algorithms you learned in comp sci? And how was a radix search faster?

about 5 months ago
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Stack Overflow Could Explain Toyota Vehicles' Unintended Acceleration

chrismcb Re: And we're going to trust self driving cars now (664 comments)

People make mistakes, intentionally or otherwise.

And that is a good reason not to have millions of people driving cars. It will be easier and faster to work out most of the bugs in a computer driven car, than to get everyone to drive error free.

about 6 months ago
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Another Possible Voynich Breakthrough

chrismcb Re:finally (160 comments)

proving theories is left as an exercise for the reader

about 6 months ago
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South Carolina Woman Jailed After Failing To Return Movie Rented Nine Years Ago

chrismcb Re: Debtors Prison? (467 comments)

1) The victim is whoever absorbed the assets of the company at its closing. They've lost the value of the tape.

At the time of the closing, the value of the tape couldn't have been more than a few dollars.

about 6 months ago
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Office Space: TV Documentary Looks At the Dreadful Open Office

chrismcb Re:Semi Open (314 comments)

So... the worst of both worlds then?

about 7 months ago
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Office Space: TV Documentary Looks At the Dreadful Open Office

chrismcb Re:I like the open plan (314 comments)

I've always though open office discourage collaboration... It is hard to have a chat in an open office. You either have to find a conference room, or you keep your voice down... or you disrupt others.

about 7 months ago
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Notorious Patent Troll Sues Federal Trade Commission

chrismcb Re:No (102 comments)

So what you are saying is... screw the little guy, hurray for the big companies with money?

about 8 months ago
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Notorious Patent Troll Sues Federal Trade Commission

chrismcb Re:No (102 comments)

The whole point of a patent is to promote science. One awesome way to encourage small inventors to invent, is to allow them to license their invention to someone with the means to produce it. By making it so only active users can hold a patent, you've made it very difficult for the little guy to hold on to patents. And thus you discourage them from inventing.

about 8 months ago
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4K Is For Programmers

chrismcb Re:Why not just multiple monitors. (520 comments)

There are in principle NO advantages to a multiple monitor setup. I

While bendable displays are all the rage at CES at the moment, one advantage to a multi monitor display is that I can position the different displays on different planes. That is a bit difficult to do with a single display. Multi monitors haven't held back the monitor industry. Rather television has

about 8 months ago

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