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Slashdot Tries Something New; Audience Responds!

chrisv Re: Why? (2219 comments)

As has been stated repeatedly before, elsewhere, I wish I had mod points right now.

With that in mind, the first two statements pretty much sum it up. "Because I want to change it" is not a good reason, nor really is a designer saying "I don't like how it looks" if, while ugly, it's intuitive for the user to figure out.

I think I've taken all of half a dozen looks at the beta site, and without fail, my response is "get me the f*** out of here", not because it's unfamiliar (though it is), but because what I see is a jumbled mess that makes following LKML in message-received order when there are multiple heated discussions going on in parallel an easy task.

With that said, I don't consider JS to be the harbinger of death and otherwise all that is evil. Some designers & developers have never heard of progressive enhancement though, causing problems left and right. There are things that can be added to the current UI without completely breaking it that make things more convenient ("Load more comments" is actually one I use regularly, because I'm also aware of how broken the pagination of comments happens to be - but then again, threaded commenting doesn't lend itself to pagination without complete disposal of context. I'd rather read the comment threads and if that means a bit of script, so be it.)

about 6 months ago

Google & Others Sued Over Android Trademark

chrisv Re:IRONIC COMMENT OF THE YEAR AWARD! (156 comments)

Yup. It's sure the first result on Yahoo. Of course, the last update prior to yesterday that I can find has approximately nothing to do with this "Android Data" thing.

A bit more research, and you'll find: The site was last updated yesterday. The content that was there at it's last indexing on Google and MSN is the same as what is currently up at As well, (the actual domain for the "product") was registered on 2009/04/20; it's been around for a grand total of 12 days. The site that was there before, according to it's a parking page for someone else operating a business by the name of "Android Data Services", though checking on gets you the same site: defunct since 2006, with it's last update being 2003/01/23. Searching for gets you no site whatsoever, on Google, Yahoo, or MSN.

This reads to me as though truth is more idiotic than fiction. Nefarious is more likely the case: everything I've been able to tell suggests that the name and product have been dead for at least 3 years, if not more likely 6 years. Looks more like a case of "I might be able to sue Google for lots of money" than anything. The likelihood of actually winning any lawsuit there, suing over a product that nobody has ever heard of, on a trademark that nobody has ever heard of (until today)... um, right. Maybe if he were actually developing & promoting that product, then he'd have something to say.

more than 5 years ago

Yamaha Unveils Golf Cart Powered By Cow Dung

chrisv Re:It is still a carbon based fuel (78 comments)

Hm. Well, methane will generate CO2 as it's end result, whether it's used for power or not - it undergoes an oxidation reaction over time: CH4 + 2O2 -> CO2 + 2H2O. It's also 75 times more potent than CO2 as a greenhouse gas, and as it decomposes to CO2 anyway, net output of CO2 from burning methane from such sources as cow dung is nil.

Wind, solar, and hydrogen all have their issues: wind and solar are unreliable over time, because they both ultimately depend on the weather conditions, and hydrogen isn't an energy source. Free H2 uses a lot of energy to obtain, unless it's obtained from fossil fuels, which, while potentially better for the environment, still leaves us with a non-renewable resource.

more than 5 years ago

Clearwire Plans Silicon Valley "Sandbox" WiMax Net

chrisv Re:It Works Just Fine in Portland (37 comments)

Hm. I've got Clear in Portland; I'm in 97239, for what it's worth. They might not advertise it as being available - the primary reason that I've been able to tell is because the signal strength / quality isn't anything great. It's certainly enough to get the job done - once the equipment is placed in a good spot, I still get 5.5Mbit, but in a bad spot (which can be as little as a few inches from the good spot: at least I have ziploc bags and tape, since it's taped to the end of my balcony right now) I'll be lucky to get dialup speeds.

more than 5 years ago

Firefox Spoofing Bug Puts Passwords At Risk

chrisv Re:Please enter your credentials here: (157 comments)

The realm is only half of the identifying element - the URL requesting authentication is the other half. For basic authentication (RFC 2617, section 2), the realm value is only for the server sending it; if another server (identified typically by [ http/https, hostname, port ]) sends me a WWW-Authenticate header with the same realm name specified, for the purposes of authentication it is a different realm. In digest authentication (section 3), it is possible to have credentials go across multiple servers, but such servers have to be specified in the initial WWW-Authenticate header in a "domain" parameter; otherwise, the authentication is again only available to the server sending the WWW-Authenticate header in the first place.

Ultimately, unless your system, DNS server, proxy server (if you're using one), gateway, or the target server, have been broken into, obtaining the credentials for any given realm is going to be difficult; if your system has been broken into, this is pointless because they could just as easily install a keylogger to capture the authentication information as it's being entered; if your gateway has been broken into, then unless you're performing all authenticated transactions over HTTPS and/or not using HTTP Basic authentication, the information is going across there in cleartext anyway, and tcpdump is all that's needed to extract it. Since the proxy server tends to exist at the gateway level anyway, the same issues apply there. As far as the target server goes - you can either capture the authentication info there, or, since you've got permissions to do anything the webserver is capable of, including generally accessing the authentication DB, just grab the authentication information and be done with it.

So... good luck at attempting to reuse the exact realm of another server - since, for the purposes of comparing authentication realms, the realm name is little more than a token which identifies a given protection space on a single server (or multiple explicitly specified servers in HTTP Digest, but that's still explicit).

more than 6 years ago


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Whee. What's up with this one?

chrisv chrisv writes  |  more than 12 years ago

I've seen other journal entries about this, and I've seen enough sigs with this thread in it. This thread (which has to be browsed at -1 to be worth reading), attached to the story about Oracle being breakable, describes someone's attempt at trying to figure out what is up with the moderation system. It appears that almost 800 people spent moderator points on this discussion, given the moderation totals listed at the top. I could perhaps see a few "Offtopic" ratings given to it, considering that it had absolutely nothing to do with the story in question, but 350 of them?

Among other things, the entire thread was slapped with a -1 it seems, most of which seeming to be without much of a good explanation. I've seen a lot of stuff go around through here (I can't particularly say I was the greatest poster at times either -- see all of my older posts -- but that was a few years ago too. I sincerely hope I've matured at least somewhat since then), and much of that has been crap. But a lot of it has been fairly insightful stuff, even if it's stuff that likely the editors don't want seen for one reason or another. That's the only reason for an entire thread, as such, to have been moderated into oblivion, as far as I can tell.

This is probably asking for a serious bitchslapping from the slashdot editors, but so be it. I was reading through a story earlier, when I spotted someone spamming the article. I pondered trying to do something about it, and even modded a few of the comments down myself (which, come to think of it, were a perfectly good waste of mod points, even if I wasn't going to use them by tomorrow night). I spotted someone else earlier today (don't remember who, or under what thread) that made a comment about a new moderation type - "Crapflooding".

Moving on to other topics though, if a post like such becomes as popular as it did (even for moderation), perhaps something else ought to be done with it besides for modding it into oblivion. If slashdot is going to try promoting itself as an open news site, which allows freedom of expression, then perhaps they shouldn't try nuking things into oblivion which make perfectly good sense for people to see. Maybe it should have been turned into a story instead?

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