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The Future According To Stanislaw Lem

cribera Re:Maybe... (196 comments)

Oh come on, I don't watch much TV either, but if you've been on the internet for more than five minutes you must have come across the blackjack and hookers gag.

I googled 'blackjack and hookers gag' and it's not explained in the first matches.

FWIW, I dont live in the US, neither my native language is spanish. When I use internet, is mainly career-related, then I use twitter, linkedin, some FB or whatsapp with friends. I supposed slashdot was thought as a cosmopolitan site, not as a US-centric one. I hope my supposition is not wrong.

about 3 months ago
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The Future According To Stanislaw Lem

cribera Re:Maybe... (196 comments)

Not everyone lives under a rock either.

And if you are arguing that you've never heard of that Futurama reference before... You are either lying, have been in a coma for the last couple of decades (it's a show from the '90s, bro), are 3 years old, have been in a prison (solitary) for the last couple of decades or in some other way removed from the society in general and geek/nerd crowd in particular.

I'm leaning towards being a convicted murderer who just got out of prison and killed the real cribera, stealing his laptop and now posting on slashdot under his name. It would also explain the trolling. You do that cause you're a sociopath.

Not everyone lives under a rock either.

And if you are arguing that you've never heard of that Futurama reference before... You are either lying, have been in a coma for the last couple of decades (it's a show from the '90s, bro), are 3 years old, have been in a prison (solitary) for the last couple of decades or in some other way removed from the society in general and geek/nerd crowd in particular.

I'm leaning towards being a convicted murderer who just got out of prison and killed the real cribera, stealing his laptop and now posting on slashdot under his name. It would also explain the trolling. You do that cause you're a sociopath.

It's awesome that you think I'm lying or was in a coma, just because I don't watch a TV cartoon.

I have a beautiful wife, and a very bright and funny child to share joy. I adore my work, I'd do it for free if I wouldn't need the money to keep my lifestyle. We go to vacations, we party with friends, in group or alone, according the situation (social life is intense and frequent in my place, you have to choose what to leave aside to avoid abuse in partying). I read books, career-related and recreational. I don't really find too much time to watch TV, neither feel the compulsory need to do it. From time to time I watch some important games of NBA, tennis or soccer, little else.

BTW, I googled about it, and it seems that I didn't do a bad thing by not teaching my kid to watch TV shows, instead of finding him creative ways to play. http://www.sciencedaily.com/re...

It's the first time I read that I'm a weirdo for not watching enough TV. If being this happy is being a weirdo or a sociopath, I'd like to know where do you get your definitions.

about 3 months ago
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The Future According To Stanislaw Lem

cribera Re:Maybe... (196 comments)

Oh whine some more, you childish Asperger's super-case. Are you such a twat that you demand that we take your "ant" shit seriously, but everyone else's examples are no good?

Are you 15 years old? Do you have *any* friends? At all? Is "cribera" Portuguese for "Fucking Crybaby"?

It's amazing how many software types are so rigid and ignorant in their thinking outside of their little bit-mashing keyboard punching.

As explained in the other message, SCIFI is a poor excuse for absurd assumptions, Clarke's 2001 and Sgan's contact are examples of what I'm talkinbg about. Read the other reply, so I don't have to copy & paste it.

about 3 months ago
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The Future According To Stanislaw Lem

cribera Re:Sauced in the Saucer (196 comments)

No, your post wasn't "reasoned", what an asshole thing to say. You're invoking all kinds of fantasies and idiocies about "alien races capable of reaching us". What's reasoned about that?

It's a fantasy. There's not a shred of evidence that any such thing is possible. There are no materials or energy sources that will allow anything like that. There just aren't. *That's* why the universe looks empty, not because there isn't other life, but because of the limits of reality.

"And the difference of such alien civilization (one capable of contacting us from a so huge distance), compared to us humans, would be far bigger than the difference between us and the ants."

Again, according to who? How? Your incredible "reasoning"? Your implied shit-eating racism in your "reasoned" post aside, you just invoke a bunch of rhetoric as if we're just supposed to swallow it. Well, fuck you.

Fuck you and your childish self-important egotistical sci-fi masturbation. I got modded higher than you because you're an idiot and I brought your delusional ass back to reality.

Fucknutz.

Apart from cursing and badmouthing, what reasoning you bring to the table? As said before, 'it's just fantasy' is a very poor excuse?

Wanna try better SCIFI regarding aliens? try Clarke's 2001 or Sagan's Contact, where aliens don't need bodies. But hey, according to you, Clarke and Sagan would be assholes.

Aliens capable to reach us in these conditions, with physical bodies and machines is a stupid scenario to think, no matter how much you bitch and curse, And of course the difference between them and us, is likely to be bigger than the one existing between us and ants. Only egoist and stupid people would not realize that.

about 3 months ago
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The Future According To Stanislaw Lem

cribera Re:Maybe... (196 comments)

How come "Maybe immortality cancels out curiosity." is related to " Imagine your own damn scifi alien race. With or without hookers and blackjack."?

Because SCIFI. You know... The main topic. You know, those completely imaginary stories, which people imagine around premises like "Maybe A with maybe B equals maybe C... Hmmm... How would that go?"

The second comment is me telling you to go and IMAGINE a plausible story of your own, around that concept or some other. And I told it as a JOKE, which includes a reference to a comical SCIFI show.

Funny thing is, I added the Futurama reference to MAKE SURE no one mistook my reply for something other than jovial. Clearly, that went well.

and both are modded up?

Easy. Someone else with mod points understood what I said and got the reference.

Not everyone is a TV addict to be aware of series references. There are people who, apart from being productive, enjoy other kind of hobbies.

And being SCIFI should not be an excuse for stupid assumptions. SCIFI fans are supposed to be intelligent nerds, not average joes who barely can read. Check 2001 Space oddisey, that would be a far more rational SCIFI, aliens don't use bodies or physical devices.

about 3 months ago
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The Future According To Stanislaw Lem

cribera Re:Sauced in the Saucer (196 comments)

It's absurd that given what we *know* as FACTS about materials and energy sources, that anyone would think intergalactic (who brought up galaxies anyhow?) travel is even remotely possible.

Precisely because of that, any alien race capable of reaching us, would have to be too far ahead us, it would be a difference bigger that the current difference between humans and ants.

There are intelligent Africans who live in mud huts, and there are stupendously stupid North Americans driving tanks.

So what does technology have to do with intelligence?

"stupid North Americans driving tanks" are genius compared to an ant, if the 2 of them could communicate. No matter how stupid they are, just for being able to drive, they must be able to understand concepts far beyond the most intelligent ant.

And the difference of such alien civilization (one capable of contacting us from a so huge distance), compared to us humans, would be far bigger than the difference between us and the ants.

This is another example of how bad slashdot has become (absurd posts being modded better than a reasoned post). I feel less eager to use my mod points right now, I dont see the point of using them.

about 3 months ago
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The Future According To Stanislaw Lem

cribera Re:Maybe... (196 comments)

How should I know? They are aliens.

I just gave you a premise. Imagine your own damn scifi alien race. With or without hookers and blackjack.

I don't know who are the fellow moderators right now. How come they mod up nosense up? or slashdot is already so screwed that now they are kids using alias to mod up their own posts?

How come "Maybe immortality cancels out curiosity." is related to " Imagine your own damn scifi alien race. With or without hookers and blackjack."? and both are modded up?

about 3 months ago
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The Future According To Stanislaw Lem

cribera Re:Sauced in the Saucer (196 comments)

The existing UFO sightings are consistent with an advanced civilization who observe us, perhaps even tinker with us, but generally stay out of sight. The "high" ones may be the numskulls who crash in New Mexico deserts.

It's absurd that an alien civilization, capable of intergalactic travel, could still need physical devices or biological bodies, that could be 'captured' by ant-level intelligence beings (compared to them) like us.

about 3 months ago
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The Future According To Stanislaw Lem

cribera Re:Maybe... (196 comments)

Maybe immortality cancels out curiosity.

How come? being immortal and getting high would provoke inmense boredom that would never end, what better way to escape boderom than getting out and explore new places in the universe, or in other universes?

about 3 months ago
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The World's Best Living Programmers

cribera Re:Amusing... (285 comments)

It always depends upon the circumstances.

There are times when being a great programmer could be the most important thing, but except in one man/woman operations this is very rarely the case.

It's overlooked because there's a romanticism (sad and geeky though it is) about wondrous programmers being able to leap tall feature lists with a single bound...

Database analysys and overall app analysis & design are far more important than algorithms. It's hard to iamgine an scenario where this would not be true, cause even in games, the abstraction capability is far more important than coding skills. Get anything above trivial, really corporate and complex, and programming is far less important than other issues.

about 5 months ago
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The World's Best Living Programmers

cribera Re:Amusing... (285 comments)

Ultimately, programming and software engineering are the same thing

Not at all. This isn't some elitist "I'm not a programmer" kind of thing. I am a programmer, but that ability is a subset of my abilities as a software engineer.

Programming is the ability to instruct a computer to perform actions. A programmer is someone who has this skill.

Software engineering is a superset of programming. It includes the abilities of a programmers, plus the skills, the ethos, and the discipline for all the other aspects of building software that are important. The discipline is the most difficult part (at least for me.)

The simplicity of those differences can be seen in the drudgery of commenting your code where appropriate (or, if you know that junior developers will be working in the codebase, documenting it thoroughly), and the complexity of those differences can be in recognizing that the architecture of your solution provides for 3rd party integration opportunities that may be of enormous value to your employer and yet require more work on your behalf because abstraction can also be drudgery.

This doesn't mean that there aren't people out there who consider themselves programmers, not software engineers, that don't have these skills - it means that that they are what would be technically considered a software engineer.

You can pick up a book on learning JavaScript in 24 hours and start programming and even refer to yourself as a programmer if you land a job doing so, but calling yourself a software engineer at that point is ridiculous. Heck, quite a few CS grads don't even appear to be able to call themselves programmers (they do so little of it in the course of their studies generally.)

An analogy, which in my obviously subjective opinion, describes this relationship would be a mechanic and a mechanical engineer. That is a rougher comparison than the differences between MOST programmers and software engineers, but it conveys the basis of what I mean.

Exactly, I'm a software architect also, and I was a programmer in my youth, since high school. Programming is only a subset of skills of any worthy software architect, and not even close to be the most important. I don't know why this is often so overlooked, even in places like slashdot.

about 5 months ago
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Louis Suarez-Potts Talks About Making Money with FOSS (Video)

cribera Music analogy, is it valid? (33 comments)

I mean, in modern music, the composer would be equivalent to the developer.

And the composer use to get frar less money than the most famous singers, instrumentalists showbiz people, hair stylists, managers and so on. So, the royalties given to the composer are perceived as an unfair payment for the creative minds of the business, isn't it?

Isn't the free software movement proposing something even more unfair for the creative minds of the software business?

They don't even have the right to the small royalties they have in music, free software evangelist claims such is unfair, and that the creative mind must turn himself/herself into a support guy, to make a living from trivial customizations or from writing books, or giving conferences, of anything besides the strictly creative process.

How come this approach is so popular in our field? Arent we shooting ourselves in the foot by convincing several entire country governments to go into the free software way?

about 10 months ago
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Ask Slashdot: Why Are We Still Writing Text-Based Code?

cribera Re:You mean a visual 4GL? (876 comments)

They suck. Used them. Hated them.

They're fine for simple if-then-else and loop processing logic, but when it comes to complex code, they suck donkey balls. And most of the code I have to write is complex code; I leave the simple stuff to the junior masses.

Isn't it the opposite? that programming only masses are the majority and real software architects (with a lot of programming experience in their youth) a small minority?

As I told before, what about http://www.genexus.com/ http://www.windev.com/ or http://www.velneo.com/

Visual Studio, Netbeans or Eclipse SUCK compared to these tools.

Are you aware that you can build powerful cross-platform apps with such tools, without doing it brick-by-brick?

Are you aware that giving such tools to a programming-only guys would be like giving blue-collar workers a rapid-wall-roof-building tool in construction, without them having no clue of engineering or architecture?

about 10 months ago
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Ask Slashdot: Why Are We Still Writing Text-Based Code?

cribera Re:Because... (876 comments)

Sorry to repeat the post, but when you don't answer soon enough in /., it seems you are ignored by the rest of the people, other by the one you answer directly. Besides, it seems in this thread, the majority are programmers, not Software archtiects, because how else the comment I quote is modded 'insightful' (I have still mod points I cant use in this thread, FWIW) and my comment is ignored?

Because text based stuff works. All the graphical programming stuff essentially is experimental. ALL of them have major faults. Yes, there are some people who think that everything can be done in UML and then automatically have that generate code, but that requires a huge investment to learn UML (at least as much time as it takes to learn a text based language) plus the code generated is not necessarily efficient. This is a very old idea, people have been working on this for decades!

It is only recently that we've had graphical displays that I would considere good enough for the level of detail necessary. The computer monitors from 10 years ago were not high enough resolution.

And frankly there's nothing wrong with text based programming. After all we are programmers. We all learned calculus (or should have), physics (or should have), we learned all the theory (or should have), we wrote term papers using text, and so forth. So to learn a simple programing language should not be a hurdle to anyone. We're professionals, we should never be saying "this is too hard!"

Graphical user interfaces are not efficient in terms of building something up. Lots and lots of mouse movement is necessary merely to draw out a basic set of blocks and flow control but then you still need lots and lots of mouse movement to apply the correct sets of properties to each box, each line, and so forth (ie, type in variable names, set their type, make them const, place them in the correct scope, etc). Whereas text you just start typing and it is fast. That's why we still use command language interfaces instead of graphical user interfaces for most professionals, they're faster and more efficient. You may think that typing is slow and cumbersome, but I find using tools like Visio and Powerpoint to be slow and cumbersome.

Finally, how are you going to share your graphical program? Do you require everyone who will read your code to also have the same graphical code viewer, no matter what operating system they are on? Sure this may be ok if you're just doing simplistic visual basic but in the real world you can't rely on this. The practical matter is that it will get translated into a textual form just to be shared. At which point you may have well done it in text to start with. Why do we have so many programming languages? Because not everyone agrees on just one language, and of course no language is equally efficient in all problem domains. The same issue will exist in any graphical programming style; no one will agree on just one, and you'll need different variants.

Basically, text based programs are indeed simpler and more robust. Now maybe you don't like some programming languages because they're too verbose and hard to type, in which case choose a language that uses higher level constructs, and so forth.

What about examples like http://www.genexus.com/ [genexus.com] http://www.windev.com/ [windev.com] or http://www.velneo.com/ [velneo.com] ?

Check this, 2+ years ago, how it runs in Android like a full-fledged windows app (not the typical watered-down app created for mobile devices), with the very same functionality in Windows/MacOSX/Linux & Android, without writing a single line of extra code. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... [youtube.com]

Despite not being 'famous', these tools are very succesful AND POWERFUL, in the sense that users are happy with them, they can solve complex problems with them, and such users are experienced in 3GL languages and HATE to think working again in the 3GL way most of their time.

In my personal experience, (I consider myself more a software architect than a programmer and I programmed a lot when young), and any of such 3 tools is a FAR BETTER option than horrible ( compared to such 3 tools, regarding productivity) tools like VisualStudio, Netbeans or Eclipse.

Software architects with real knowledge, can take a lot of advantage of such 4GL+ tools , I don't understand how people writes about supposed 'limitations', I hope they explain what are they talking about, perhaps they talk about cases equivalent in construction of giving an imaginary rapid-house-building tool to blue-collar workers without engineering and/or architecture knowledge?

about 10 months ago
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Ask Slashdot: Why Are We Still Writing Text-Based Code?

cribera Re:We're not 1 layer above assembly (876 comments)

Sorry to repeat the post, but when you don't answer soon enough in /., it seems you are ignored by the rest of the people, other by the one you answer directly.

We're two. That's already enough. There are plenty of '4GL' languages out there, where you draw diagrams and 'write no code' but they're very limited in what you can do. You can only do what the language and tool designers have already thought of. As soon as you need to do anything more complex. you need a write code.

What about examples like http://www.genexus.com/ http://www.windev.com/ or http://www.velneo.com/ ?

Check this, 2+ years ago, how it runs in Android like a full-fledged windows app (not the typical watered-down app created for mobile devices), with the very same functionality in Windows/MacOSX/Linux & Android, without writing a single line of extra code. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Despite not being 'famous', these tools are very succesful AND POWERFUL, in the sense that users are happy with them, they can solve complex problems with them, and such users are experienced in 3GL languages and HATE to think working again in the 3GL way most of their time.

In my personal experience, I consider myself more a software architect than a programmer, and any of such 3 tools is a far better options for me than horrible ( compared to such 3 tools, regarding productivity) tools like VisualStudio, Netbeans or Eclipse.

Software architects with real knowledge, can take a lot of advantage of such 4GL+ tools , I don't understand how people writes about supposed 'limitations', I hope they explain what are they talking about, perhaps they talk about cases equivalent in construction of giving an imaginary rapid-house-building tool to blue-collar workers without engineering and/or architecture knowledge?

about 10 months ago
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Ask Slashdot: Why Are We Still Writing Text-Based Code?

cribera Re:Visual Programming Has Been a 20-Year Failed Ex (876 comments)

Visual code generators have existed for two decades, most famous is the Rational product. I've never met a developer or read an unbiased article claiming that the code generators have helped. Usually they say it just leads to ugly code and high maintenance overhead to maintain the diagrams. In natural language, why haven't photos and videos replaced words? It's because words are still the best way to express precise and complex logic. Now, it's up to the writer to express complex logic in a series of simple steps that a reader can understand, or to write in a convoluted way.

What about examples like www.genexus.com, www.windev.com or www.velneo.com ?

Despite not being 'famous', they are pretty succesful, in the sense that users are ahppy with them, and such users know 3GL languages and HATE to think working again in the 3GL way.

In my personal experience, I considers myself more a software architect than a programmer, and any of such 3 tools is a far better options for me than horrible ( compared to such 3 tools, regarding productivity) tools VisualStudio, Netbeans or Eclipse.

Software architects with real knowledge, can take a lot of advantage of such tools , I don't understand how people writes about supposed 'limitations', I hope they explain what are they talking about, perhaps they talk about cases equivalent in construction of giving an imaginary rapid-house-building tool to blue-collar workers without engineering and/or architecture knowledge?

about 10 months ago
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200 Dolphins Await Slaughter In Japan's Taiji Cove

cribera Re:What about the CAPUCHIN MONKEY? (628 comments)

Monkey see, monkey do. It's a type of intelligence, but there are others that are tested too, some more important - such as puzzles that have to be solved without being shown the correct solution. For example, squirrels working out how to overcome anti-squirrel bird feeders are showing more intelligence than the monkeys in the examples you mention.

Check also these links please, and tell us your opinion, if you wish. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pm...

about a year ago
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200 Dolphins Await Slaughter In Japan's Taiji Cove

cribera Re:What about the CAPUCHIN MONKEY? (628 comments)

Monkey see, monkey do. It's a type of intelligence, but there are others that are tested too, some more important - such as puzzles that have to be solved without being shown the correct solution. For example, squirrels working out how to overcome anti-squirrel bird feeders are showing more intelligence than the monkeys in the examples you mention.

FWIW, there are A LOT of examples of capuchin monkeys facing challenges and overcoming them WITHOUT NEVER WATCHING ANYONE DO IT before.

You see it in south american wild areas near cities, or even with very young orphan monkeys raised at human homes, chained, how they improvise tools to get food, or to get something to use it as a toy.

For instance, this is another video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

And more important, apart from abilities and facing challenges, it's when you interact with them, it seems so obvious that they understand you and try to communicate with you. Even when they look at you, and the use of their facial expressions, it even scares you of how human they seem, no other animal comes close to that, and I'vee seen trained chimps, gorillas, parrots, dolphins, elephants, etc.

I'll try to film myself some untrained monkeys for anyone who wish to see that with their own eyes. If you travel to Brazil or Bolivia, you'll find some of these monkeys in rural areas, to realize how smart they act without any training. OTOH in cities you'll find some trained monkeys that work as 'assistants' for street performers (but that's not the point discussed here about intelligent traits, not about tricks trained by humans).

about a year ago
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200 Dolphins Await Slaughter In Japan's Taiji Cove

cribera What about the CAPUCHIN MONKEY? (628 comments)

Dolphins and chimps are quite intelligent, I will give you that. But I would place parrots (look up the New Zealand Kea on youtube), corvids (crows, ravens, etc), octopuses, whales, and elephants before pigs.

I'm surprised that the AMAZING capuchin monkey is ignored (FAR smarter than chimp, in my experience, just not used in research as often as they should).

Personally, in South America I've seen them solving problems (like learning themselves COMING FROM THE WILD several yards far from the office, to operate a coffee machine and getting a cup of coffe in an office where the manager allowed them in, or entering a place and looking for magazines, imitating the human behavior) WITHOUT HUMAN TRAINING.

Behavior like this, but without formal training to do so (like happened with the chimps when doing tricks), just by watching and learning.

Please check videos like these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

about a year ago
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If I Had a Hammer

cribera Re:Isn't this the ultimate goal? (732 comments)

The Soviet Union didn't do so well, China on the other hand has incorporated a few capitalistic principles as well and seems to be doing quite well

China today communist? 'a few capitalistic principles' Are you kidding me?

Aren't you aware that USA is totally communist compared to today's China establishment, with almost slave workers, with practically no rights when they are born peasants migrating to a city? Do you call that ' a few capitalistic principles'?

What were my moderator colleagues thinking about when modding the quoted message as 'Insightful'? Will some of them explain it here please?

about a year ago

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