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Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

devent Re:its not a claim, its a fact of life. (512 comments)

You can write your own application that communicates with systemd-ask-password. What is your point?

yesterday
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Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

devent Re:its not a claim, its a fact of life. (512 comments)

PS: and it's not an ad hominem to call you an idiot, if I can demonstrate that you are an idiot. Which I did.
systemd uses journald for its own internal logging. It's like in my applications that I write I use logback (Java logging) and you are asking if you could replace logback with your own logging framework. You could, if you hack my application. But what is the point of it.

yesterday
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Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

devent Re:its not a claim, its a fact of life. (512 comments)

My answer is that you are an idiot, and I explained with my previous post why.
systemd uses journald for its own internal logging. You could hack systemd to use something else.

yesterday
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Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

devent Re:its not a claim, its a fact of life. (512 comments)

Sure you can. systemd-ask-password is not even linking systemd.

% ldd /usr/bin/systemd-ask-password
                linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fffb5daa000)
                libselinux.so.1 => /lib64/libselinux.so.1 (0x00007f07acb03000)
                libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f07ac8ed000)
                libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007f07ac52e000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00000033b9800000)
                libpcre.so.1 => /lib64/libpcre.so.1 (0x00007f07ac2c8000)
                liblzma.so.5 => /lib64/liblzma.so.5 (0x00007f07ac0a3000)
                libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f07abe9e000)
                libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f07abc81000)

yesterday
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Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

devent Re:its not a claim, its a fact of life. (512 comments)

systemd uses journald for its own internal logging. You just asked, can I pull the network stack of the Linux kernel and use my own.
But you can use syslog in systemd for your own stuff.

yesterday
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Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

devent Re:UNIX Philosophy (512 comments)

Linux have binary log files for years, and nobody complained about it.
See /var/log/wtmp http://linux.die.net/man/5/wtm...
And it wasn't "railroaded". Debian had a vote in the TC and Ubuntu choose to use systemd instead of their own. How is that in any way "railroaded"?

Seems like configuration should be a single file that lists the programs to start from top to bottom. If you wanted add some parallel start-ups, it seems like you could just make the config file format a little fancier, maybe with some braces or indentation to express dependency.

Just like systemd service files?

yesterday
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Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

devent Re:its not a claim, its a fact of life. (512 comments)

How many times is this lie going to be repeated. Systemd does not put everything "into one application". Systemd consists of many separate applications and daemons, many of them not even link against systemd. The developers of systemd have all of those separate apps and daemons in one code repository, but you can pull each of them out and compile each of them separatly.

yesterday
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Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

devent Re:That's all we need ... (512 comments)

Large portion of users? Lets see. Ubuntu, Debian, Redhat, Suse all use systemd. Where is this large portion of users, please?

yesterday
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KDE Releases Plasma 5.1

devent Re:Does anyone still use Gnome? (56 comments)

You can deactivate all animations with 4 clicks. System Settings -> Desktop Effects -> Animation Speed Instant -> Apply
Huge icons? If the icons are too big click on the tool-bar and set Icon Size [x] Small.
"understand how to use it" What? KDE 4 is like the desktop in KDE 1.
""Activity"? Is it a workspace?" Who cares, don't use it, don't worry about it.

about a week ago
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Hawking Radiation Mimicked In the Lab

devent Re:Sound waves as quantum particles? (64 comments)

The cold temperature also ensures that the fluid, known as a Bose-Einstein condensate, provides a silent medium for the passage of sound waves that arise from quantum fluctuations.

The sound waves arises from quantum fluctuations, and those sound waves can propagate through the medium because it is a Bose-Einstein condensate, i.e. it have almost(?) zero resistance to sound waves. So that experiment is acutally measuring quantum fluctuations.

about a week ago
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Oxytocin Regulates Sociosexual Behavior In Female Mice

devent Re:Help for women with no sex drive? (216 comments)

Your comment is funny, because the very article for this thread is about neurological research.

about a week ago
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National Security Letter Issuance Likely Headed To Supreme Court

devent Re:DOJ Oaths (112 comments)

It depends on the situation. What you certainly do not have is unlimited free speech.
Brandenburg v. Ohio "The constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a state to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force, or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."
And further, Justice Frank Murphy "There are certain well-defined and limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise a Constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous and the insulting or “fighting” words – those which by their very utterances inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace."

In addition, NSLs do prohibit political speech, in that we'd need to hear from people who have been sent them in order to come up with a reasonable grievance to petition for redress, so the automatic gag is Constitutionally iffy even by your standards.

You need to prove that in a court.

about two weeks ago
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National Security Letter Issuance Likely Headed To Supreme Court

devent Re:DOJ Oaths (112 comments)

Or maybe English is just not my first language.

about two weeks ago
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National Security Letter Issuance Likely Headed To Supreme Court

devent Re:DOJ Oaths (112 comments)

Your whole argument is BS. The 1th is not that you have the unlimited power to say whatever you feel like, and that your government cannot make laws restricting you to say whatever you want. The 1th is about political speech and freedom of religion. The 1th does not give you the right to incite hate speech or incite any form of crime or cause any form of harm. Your rights ends when they infringe on other people rights, and the government is elected to ensure the rights of all.

This sort of thing is exactly what the Bill of Rights is meant to protect us against.

You would be correct if the NSLs would prohibit somebody to excercise political speech or religion. But congress is perfectly in its rights to limit your free speech to protect other citizens rights. Like, you have no 1th right to shout fire in a crowded theater and thus cause a panic and maybe the death of some people. Or you have no 1th right to tell people to kill some other people.

You do realize that the 1th does not trump all the other ammendments of the constitution only because it is the first? That is why your government can arrest you for a crime, for example, and thus restricting your 1th, 2th, etc.

about two weeks ago
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Lennart Poettering: Open Source Community "Quite a Sick Place To Be In"

devent Re:Less static hardware. (993 comments)

Don't you realize that RedHat is a multi-million company that knows exactly what it needs on its servers?
That maybe, just maybe, RedHat needs systemd, and is funding it because of that?

about two weeks ago
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Lennart Poettering: Open Source Community "Quite a Sick Place To Be In"

devent Re:In the spotlight (993 comments)

Maybe because systemd is fucking good? And all the whiners about it are just retards. Seriosly, I did not came acros one legit critique of systemd.

about two weeks ago
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Object Oriented Linux Kernel With C++ Driver Support

devent Re:Why do people still care about C++ for kernel d (365 comments)

For example with the file, the application could ask for an alternative file location.
Or if the socket can't disconnect, the app can ask the user to connect to the internet again.

about two weeks ago
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Object Oriented Linux Kernel With C++ Driver Support

devent Re:Why do people still care about C++ for kernel d (365 comments)

A file should be flush()ed so that changed are written out. That can cause I/O errors. If you disconnect your computer from the Internet, that can cause an I/O error on close(). There are sure more valid scenarious, when close() or flush() can cause I/O errors. There are also more subtle ways, like if you write a log message to a file in your dtor. That log message can cause I/O error.

about two weeks ago
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Object Oriented Linux Kernel With C++ Driver Support

devent Re:Why do people still care about C++ for kernel d (365 comments)

And how do you handle exceptions? For example, if you close a file it's a good idea to flush() changes. flush() can throw I/O exceptions.
Or if you close a socket. Or anything else that handles external resources.

about two weeks ago

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