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EU May Allow Members Home Rule On GMO Foods

drnb Re:Its politics not culture ... (272 comments)

No it's not. Inaccurate date is worse than none.

This data offered was not inaccurate. The observations were factually correct.

about a month and a half ago
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EU May Allow Members Home Rule On GMO Foods

drnb Re:Its politics not culture ... (272 comments)

People who left their country of origin say very little about those of those who stayed behind.

On second thought, no. That is also pure unsubstantiated speculation. The two examples I referred to were in their 20s when they emigrated and their work ethic predated their arrival in the US. It was not something that they adapted to, it was something they brought with them. As immigrants to the US have been doing for centuries. Well, except for a few British gentlemen who had to learn how to work hard at Jamestown several centuries ago.

about a month and a half ago
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EU May Allow Members Home Rule On GMO Foods

drnb Re:Its politics not culture ... (272 comments)

Your sample, if you can even call it that, is suffering from selection bias.

Even so its better than an opinion based on a sample of zero as the GP offers.

about a month and a half ago
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EU May Allow Members Home Rule On GMO Foods

drnb Re:Its politics not culture ... (272 comments)

People who left their country of origin say very little about those of those who stayed behind.

Do I really need to mention for a third time my great-grandfather who stayed behind and has the same work ethic as my grandfather who emigrated has?

Germany outproduces the Mediterranean countries. This is a fact. Spin it however you want, with whatever anecdotal examples you choose, you can't change the raw numbers.

Actually you are doing the spinning. The disagreement is not about what country has a more productive economy. The debate is over the reasons, you claimed it was culture and work ethic. You speculation on that matter is wrong.

about a month and a half ago
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EU May Allow Members Home Rule On GMO Foods

drnb Re:Its politics not culture ... (272 comments)

Really, my born and raised in Italy and emigrated to the US at age 20 grandfather has a work ethic that a very conservative American would consider exemplary.

One of my friends growing up, his father was born and raised in Greece. He emigrated to the US in his early 20s also. He seemed to share a work ethic and some other traits with my grandfather.

You do realize that nothing you said has any bearing on my point, right? Culture is local, not ethnic.

You do realize that my grandfather and my friend's father were born and raised in Italy and Greece, right? That they did not emigrate to the US until they were 20+ years old, right? That they brought their Italian and Greek culture with them to the US, right? That my great-grandfather never left Italy, right?

Well, that's not true either, but you should catch my meaning. It's an entirely different pace of life in the Mediterranean Countries. You can get a similar culture shock if you travel from New York City to New Orleans, and The Big Easy is positively fast paced when compared to Italy, Spain, or Greece.

Yes, but a pace-of-life thing like sitting down for a nice long meal doesn't mean they are incapable of working quite hard when not at the dinner table.

Its a welfare state government not the national culture that screws things up.

Then why isn't Finland broke and begging Germany for bailouts? Finland isn't going to bring the Euro down. The aforementioned countries just may.....

The government is not as corrupt and incompetent as say Greece with respect to finance.

about a month and a half ago
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EU May Allow Members Home Rule On GMO Foods

drnb Its politics not culture ... (272 comments)

... Of course, it's not Germany's fault they're so much more productive than the rest of Europe. Ever been to Italy, Greece, or Spain? The "work ethic" in those cultures is utterly foreign to an American, never mind a German ...

Really, my born and raised in Italy and emigrated to the US at age 20 grandfather has a work ethic that a very conservative American would consider exemplary. And Italian culture is not gone from his house as my father and us visiting grandchildren can attest. If you are working hard or studying hard he is kind and generous, slack off and you will hear about it. And the expectation level is not fixed, if you were lucky enough to be stronger or smarter than average then expectation are increased. He runs his house and raised his kids pretty much like his father. When visiting Italy I've seen my 90 year old great-grandfather tending his orchard. When my grandfather says to him, hey your 90 years old, take it easy. My great-grandfather replies that he'll take it easy when he's dead, that working keeps him healthy.

One of my friends growing up, his father was born and raised in Greece. He emigrated to the US in his early 20s also. He seemed to share a work ethic and some other traits with my grandfather. Strict house, exemplary work ethic, generous to family and friends who lived up to his expectations.

Don't confuse culture with the politics of the day. Its a welfare state government not the national culture that screws things up.

about a month and a half ago
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American Judge Claims Jurisdiction Over Data Stored In Other Countries

drnb Re:US Court did *not* say corporations are people (226 comments)

Amusingly enough, "corporation" comes from latin word meaning a "group of people"... so where's the difference?

Latin is not to be taken literally in modern english. For example to decimate does not mean we will kill 10%. :-)

about 3 months ago
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American Judge Claims Jurisdiction Over Data Stored In Other Countries

drnb US Court did *not* say corporations are people ... (226 comments)

With apologies to various political hacks in the judiciary, corporations are not people ...

Actually the U.S. Supreme Court did *not* say that corporations are people. What the court actually said is that *groups of people* have the same rights as individual people, and that the nature of that group -- corporation, labor union, activist group, etc -- does not matter.

I apologize of actually reading the court decision rather than relying on the characterization of it by the talking heads on TV.

about 3 months ago
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L.A. Science Teacher Suspended Over Student Science Fair Projects

drnb Re:PINO - Progressive in Name Only (253 comments)

What specific policy positions taken by the current Democratic Party do you feel are "radical left"?

You are moving the goal post. The actual conversation is that the "progressive" label is being co-opted by the radical left. The California state legislature offers some good examples. Absolute control by the Democratic party for decades and unlikely to change, a strong tolerance and occasional embrace of its more radical elements. One example would be a ban on civilian ownership of firearms. I'm in California, some Democratic state legislators are literally behind such legislation each and every year. They consider this a regular every-day "progressive" position.

about 3 months ago
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Verizon and New Jersey Agree 4G Service Equivalent to Broadband Internet

drnb Voters are absolutely to blame ... (155 comments)

I'm getting really tired of this shitty argument. We currently have a system in which rich people and corporations can donate nearly unlimited amounts of money to all political candidates, essentially buying them all out and you insist that the problem is with the voters. When every candidate is bought, there is no one left representing US! Stop acting like there is always a perfect candidate and somehow we pick the wrong one 100% of the time.

If anyone has a shitty argument it is you. Votes are politics true currency, money is just a tool to influence voters in order to get their *vote*.

A 1% has *one* vote. A 99% has *one* vote. The 99% have the power but they squander it, to believe otherwise is to be a denier of reality like climate deniers, to let politics blind oneself to reality.

Look at the two most powerful lobbying groups in the country, the AARP and the NRA. They have so much power not because of political campaign contribution but because ***their members show up on election day*** highly motivated to vote based on a single issue. Their opponents often fail to understand this, think it is simply political contributions, and in the NRA case raise huge amounts of money for anti-gun groups and then fail and fail again.

Politicians value votes beyond all other things. It is votes that put them into office and keep them in office. The secondary nature of money is easily illustrated. No amount of money spent on TV and web ads by Bloomberg will convince NRA member to vote in favor of restricting guns. No amount of money spent on TV and web ads by the Koch brothers will convince Occupy Wall Street members to vote against banking restrictions. Only the ignorant or ambivalent voter is persuaded.

To deny that the real issue is the ignorant/ambivalent voter is to doom one's efforts at reform. Only when the 99% insists on politicians representing their interests, and voting out those who do not, will politicians change their behavior. Reelections communicates to politicians that their actions are OK with voters.

Voters *are* communicating to politicians that it is OK to cash in. Until *voters" say otherwise nothing will change. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

about 3 months ago
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L.A. Science Teacher Suspended Over Student Science Fair Projects

drnb PINO - Progressive in Name Only (253 comments)

Progressives are *not* anti-gun, neither are environmentalists THIS IS NOT TRUE. They are absolutely anti-gun and anyone claiming otherwise, isn't paying attention. Teddy Roosevelt has almost nothing in common with today's Democrats and their progressive/environmental constituency. The fact that you try to tie the two together only further proves the point.

No. My point is that the radical left is trying to rebrand themselves and usurp a nice sounding existing label. These modern democrats are PINO, progressive in name only.

about 3 months ago
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L.A. Science Teacher Suspended Over Student Science Fair Projects

drnb Re:Its the anti-gun agenda, seriously, read articl (253 comments)

The article mentioned he was a head of the union who prevented the firings of several teachers. It was a political ploy

So it serves two agendas. This makes it no less of an anti-gun.

about 3 months ago
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L.A. Science Teacher Suspended Over Student Science Fair Projects

drnb Re:Its the anti-gun agenda, seriously, read articl (253 comments)

The problem with this theory is that it sets bad policy that persists and that can affect good teachers at a later date.

about 3 months ago
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L.A. Science Teacher Suspended Over Student Science Fair Projects

drnb Re:Its the anti-gun agenda, seriously, read articl (253 comments)

... it's a stupid policy created by people that don't own guns ...

There is nothing wrong with not owning guns. Its a personal choice, OK for some, not for others.

However creating policy and regulations when you are completely ignorant and misinformed about firearms, that is something else. Some non-owners are quite well informed and not hysterical. Some owners are quite ignorant and in dire need of instructions and education.

about 3 months ago
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L.A. Science Teacher Suspended Over Student Science Fair Projects

drnb Progressives are *not* anti-gun ... (253 comments)

... it is about tje progressive anti-gun stance ...

Progressives are *not* anti-gun, neither are environmentalists, etc. Ex. Teddy Roosevelt was known to be a fan of target shooting and hunting.

Call it what it is, the radical left. Don't let the radical left redefine and despoil the term "progressive" and they did "liberal".

about 3 months ago
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L.A. Science Teacher Suspended Over Student Science Fair Projects

drnb Its the anti-gun agenda, seriously, read article (253 comments)

Lets burn the lawyers offices down. Everyone is so freaking terrified of a lawsuit that nothing happens.

Its not fear of lawyers, its an anti-gun agenda. I'm not kidding, from the article:
“supervising the building, research and development of imitation weapons.”

Things that look or function remotely similarly to a gun are not to be tolerated. If you let kids shoot marshmallows at stacked plastic cups they might have fun, take pride in their mastery of ballistic trajectories, and you never know where that might lead ... nerf ... airsoft ... a .22.

about 3 months ago
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Heartbleed Coder: Bug In OpenSSL Was an Honest Mistake

drnb Re:He's sorry now ... (447 comments)

The above cannot be challenged in court. No court in the Universe holds jurisdiction over this. The contributor didn't sell you OpenSSL, he didn't force you to use it, it didn't tell you to use it, he didn't make any guarantees about its functionality, you have no contract, no warranty, no expectation for it to actually do anything, etc. You may as well sue someone after walking into their house uninvited, listening to them whistle while they're sitting on the toilet, and hearing a missed note.

They law may not work as logically as you assume.

In the U.S. a person can enter a homeowner's yard uninvited and without the homeowner's knowledge, slip and fall, injure themselves, and successfully sue the homeowner.

about 4 months ago
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Heartbleed Coder: Bug In OpenSSL Was an Honest Mistake

drnb Re:He's sorry now ... (447 comments)

Lawyers love EULA's and licenses. The OpenSSL license disclaims all liability

* THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE OpenSSL PROJECT ``AS IS'' AND ANY * EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE * IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR * PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE OpenSSL PROJECT OR * ITS CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, * SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT * NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; * LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) * HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, * STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) * ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED * OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.

https://www.openssl.org/source...

If you never agreed to that license, you're violating their copyright.

OK, switching from humor to serious. The above can be challenged in court. And being correct/innocent does not necessarily determine the outcome of a case. As a hostile lawyer once explained: the facts of the matter are irrelevant, my client can afford to go to court, you can not. See "pyrrhic victory".

about 4 months ago
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Heartbleed Coder: Bug In OpenSSL Was an Honest Mistake

drnb Sue FSF, relicense all GNU software ... (447 comments)

And even if these companies could legally sue (jurisdictions notwithstanding), what would the point be?

Take ownership and control of the project.

Hmmm ... Find a way to sue the FSF, get ownership/control, relicense all GNU software.

about 4 months ago
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Heartbleed Coder: Bug In OpenSSL Was an Honest Mistake

drnb He's sorry now ... (447 comments)

He's sorry now, wait until some lawyer shows up on his doorstep with a bill.

about 4 months ago

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California Bill 2013 AB 174 Would Confiscate Legally Registered Firearms

drnb drnb writes  |  about a year and a half ago

drnb (2434720) writes "California’s Assault Weapons ban of 1989 allowed those who owned covered firearms the opportunity to register those firearms and keep them. It now seems that some in the California legislature wish to revoke this registration and render these firearms illegal. The recently introduced AB 174 would force current owners to render their formerly legal and registered firearms inoperable, surrender them or remove them from California.

The California Legislative Councel's Digest says:
AB 174, as introduced, Bonta. Weapons: grandfather clauses.
Existing law prohibits the possession of various weapons. Under existing law, certain of these bans exempted from their scope weapons that were possessed prior to the ban, if prescribed conditions met, are authorized.
This bill would declare the intent of the Legislature to subsequently amend this bill to include provisions that would end all of those exemptions."

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