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Satellite Images Show Russians Shelling Ukraine

dunkelfalke Re:Bombing a city is ok ? (545 comments)

Again, if you fight for an enemy nation in a war expect people are going to be angry at you.

There was no fight for an enemy nation in Odessa. There were anti-Maidan protesters.

Yanokovych employed snipers against massive peaceful protests, they occupied buildings but they also had hundreds of thousands of people. The pro-Russians have never had a tenth as many.

Except that it was not even proven that it was Yanukovich who used the snipers. And he wasn't indiscriminately shelling civilians in western Ukraine either. I have a coworker from Ukraine, his extended family in Donetsk (a young woman with two children) was killed by Ukrainian artillery.

Like I said, Yanukovich was a bloody crook, a common criminal who came to power, but compared to the current Ukrainian government he was almost a saint.

And you can't compare Yanoyovych's actions to a defence from an actual invasion.

What invasion are you talking about? There is a civil war going on. Irregulars on one side, quickly legalized former irregulars on the other side. Ukraine would never stand a chance against an actual invasion from Russia. Compare that to the utterly professional and practically bloodless annexion of Crimea. And this is why Ukrainian army doesn't even try to do anything about that, they know they don't stand a chance. Shelling cities, on the other hand, is easy. Especially these in Eastern Ukraine - Galicians don't consider Eastern Ukrainians to be real Ukrainians, even though they themselves were ousted from Poland when ethnic Poles were thrown out of Western Ukraine after WW2. They don't even speak the same language - a mix of Ukrainian and Polish by the Galicians, Surzhik by Eastern Ukrainian.

There's nothing criminal or fascist about the current rulers.

Svoboda was recognized as a neo-nazi party by basically every European country. And even though this party was in minority in the last elections, they suddenly have received a lot of interesting positions after Maidan because their armed thugs helped the coup. And what followed were banning oppositional parties, censorship of media and other nice things that typically follow after a fascist coup.

Tell me what they should have done in response to an invasion that you wouldn't consider "criminal" or "fascist".

An invasion has to happen first. Then one regular army can fight another regular army.

3 hours ago
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Satellite Images Show Russians Shelling Ukraine

dunkelfalke Re:Bombing a city is ok ? (545 comments)

a) No one knows how the fire started, both sides were throwing molotov cocktails, and the majority of the crowd attempted to help evacuate the building.

You can see in numerous youtube videos that while some of the crowd helped the people out, others happily continued to throw incendiaries into the windows. Majority my arse.

b) Ally yourself with an enemy nation who has just invaded and annexed part of the country, take over buildings by force, then kill some peaceful protesters. You really expect to get a kind response?

Imagine that Yanukovich had done the same to the maidan thugs, what the current national guard does to civilists in Donetsk. For all his faults he was a saint in comparison.

They simply hand over half the country to actual murderous criminals and fascists?

Actual murderous criminals and fascists already own the majority of the country. What difference would it make?

10 hours ago
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Satellite Images Show Russians Shelling Ukraine

dunkelfalke Re:Bombing a city is ok ? (545 comments)

The communist party of Ukraine. 13% of voters have voted for them in the last parliament election - the fourth largest party back then. Banning oppositional parties is something that even that crook Yanukovich did not dare.

yesterday
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SpaceX Executive Calls For $22-25 Billion NASA Budget

dunkelfalke Re:You having problems, John Galt? (106 comments)

Sure about Space X being the cheapest? If I remember correctly, Zenit is yet cheaper.

yesterday
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Satellite Images Show Russians Shelling Ukraine

dunkelfalke Re:What a surprise. (545 comments)

I do believe you, but Czech republic seems to be different so it was very helpful to learn a bit Czech - especially the part that differes with Russian. That really helps to transform a Russian sentence into a sort of broken Czech that was, in my experience, better understandable for them, than English.

Romanians often speak decent English, and, obviously, French (that is one language I, for one, struggle with). Poles are also fine with English.

yesterday
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Satellite Images Show Russians Shelling Ukraine

dunkelfalke Re:Bombing a city is ok ? (545 comments)

And what's your explanation for why the Ukrainians would want to inflict civilian casualties?

Sheer primitive tribalism. The guys who have burned people alive in Odessa had a lot of fun doing it. And they were cheered at by several local politicians.

There was nothing murderous or repressive about the government

Well, shelling civilians and arming neo-faschist thugs surely counts for murderous. And as for repressive, they banned an oppositional party few days ago.

yesterday
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Satellite Images Show Russians Shelling Ukraine

dunkelfalke Re:What a surprise. (545 comments)

That is what I did. I was actually surprised that many people in their twenties don't speak English, or, if they do, then just barely. But some of them speak Russian - with a funny accent, but pretty well.

yesterday
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Satellite Images Show Russians Shelling Ukraine

dunkelfalke Re:What a surprise. (545 comments)

I wish they would actually do that. Czech are notoriously bad when it comes to foreign languages. I live in Germany and visit Prague every now and then.When I ask for directions in English, I get something unintelligible as reply. When I try in German, they give me blank stares. When I repeat my question in Russian (yes, I speak Russian as well), they either reply in Russian or they reply in Czech but it is often close enough to understand - Slavic languages are like that.

yesterday
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Russian Government Edits Wikipedia On Flight MH17

dunkelfalke Re:cause and/or those responsible (667 comments)

So, in a nutshell, the difference according to you is that the Korean jet was shot down by the evil commies and the Iranian jet was shot down by the American heroes.

Yep. I am convinced.

about a week ago
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Russian Government Edits Wikipedia On Flight MH17

dunkelfalke Re:East is East, West is West... (667 comments)

Those of us in the West are hypocrites. Has USA ever admitted, that shooting down the Iranian airbus was a mistake? Nope. The official statement was that all compensation was ex gratia and Iran is to blame.

about a week ago
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Russia Prepares For Internet War Over Malaysian Jet

dunkelfalke Re:To me it's pretty clear. (503 comments)

You have not a single proof that the actual people burned in the building murdered somebody. And yet you are cheering for murderers. You are one of the worst kind of people.

about two weeks ago
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Russia Prepares For Internet War Over Malaysian Jet

dunkelfalke Re:"treating it as an accident" (503 comments)

ORLY?

The payment of compensation was explicitly characterized by the US as being on an ex gratia basis, and the U.S. denied having any responsibility or liability for what happened.

or that priceless quote of Shrub the senior:

I will never apologize for the United States of America, ever. I don't care what the facts are!

about two weeks ago
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Russia Prepares For Internet War Over Malaysian Jet

dunkelfalke Re:To me it's pretty clear. (503 comments)

So you are really cheering for murderers? What exactly makes you better then?

about two weeks ago
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Malaysian Passenger Plane Reportedly Shot Down Over Ukraine

dunkelfalke Re:Ah. (752 comments)

Thirst they claimed that there were no missiles fired that day in first place. Except that it was a complete lie, Ukrainian troops in Crimea were firing anti-aircraft missiles at some target drones that day.

Don't forget the first official reaction of their then-president: "We should not make a tragedy out of matters if it was a mistake. Bigger mistakes have been made."

about two weeks ago
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Malaysian Passenger Plane Reportedly Shot Down Over Ukraine

dunkelfalke Re:Ah. (752 comments)

I don't trust Ukrainian armed forces in this matter. They have a history of shooting down civilian airplanes and then denying everything.

about two weeks ago
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Obama Administration Says the World's Servers Are Ours

dunkelfalke Re:Maybe, maybe not. (749 comments)

Well, O'Bama is irish, so he probably thinks he can get away with it.

about two weeks ago
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People Who Claim To Worry About Climate Change Don't Cut Energy Use

dunkelfalke Re:Or cut back on the kids (710 comments)

So.
No kids (that I know of). No car either - cycling 15 miles one way to work. My yearly electricity usage is about what an average US home uses - per month.

May I cast the first stone? Pretty please?

about two weeks ago
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The Least They Could Do: Amazon Charges 1 Cent To Meet French Free Shipping Ban

dunkelfalke Re:Not France vs US (309 comments)

I also know small bookshops. They are either on main railway stations and sell crappy bestsellers or - if they are located elsewhere - they sell more hipster apparel than books nowadays.

about two weeks ago
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Hints of Life's Start Found In a Giant Virus

dunkelfalke Re: What is life? What is a virus? (158 comments)

very much so. and not only that, the hybrids are also fertile. same for endler's livebearers and guppies and sailfin x yucatan mollies. molly and guppy can also interbreed, although it doesn't happen that readily and the offspring is sterile.

about three weeks ago

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