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U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

gameboyhippo Re:A win for medieval mentality (1330 comments)

I haven't flipped the issue on its head. I'm calling it like it is. You're unable to see that people who employ people are people too with the same constitutional rights. Let's flip it for a second and you'll see what I mean (not really, this is the Internet, but it's fun to try.)

You go to work for XYZ-tech. Every year they have a big Christmas party celebrating the birth of Christ. They require you to pay for part of the party expenses. We could both agree that as a devout atheist, you feel this is wrong in every way. So why is it different when you flip around employee and employer? Why is it suddenly okay to tell the employer that they must violate their religious beliefs by being forced to pay for something that they feel is murder? Just as you wouldn't sue your employer if they had an optional off-site private Christmas party; nobody is punishing employees for using contraception that is not one of the sixteen forms that Hobby Lobby covers.

If you think that your rights change because you provide an income to people, then that's your right. You're objectively incorrect, but theirs nothing in the constitution against being wrong.

about two weeks ago
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Gamestop's Ludicrous Idea: Require Preorders To Unlock Custom Game Content

gameboyhippo Or Nintendo (86 comments)

Not necessarily. Nintendo does DLC very differently in a consumer friendly manner. I don't see them ever doing crap like this.

about three weeks ago
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U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

gameboyhippo Re:A win for medieval mentality (1330 comments)

Separation between Church and State means that you get to hold whatever "religious" belief you want in private

Nope. It doesn't. If the state required citizens to abondon their religious beliefs in public then that would be a clear violation of the separation of church and state. Have you read the constitution? It says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

you don't get to impose those religious views (or values) on others.

I agree with you. Nobody has the right to impose on the owners of Hobby Lobby their religious views.

Not even people who just happen to be in a position of financial dependence to you.

Like my kids? Yes. I have the right to raise them as I see fit.

What people call "freedom" here is the freedom to impose your arbitrary views (here "religion") onto others (employees) by cavilling over what they consider "appropriate" medical care.
What this ruling does is empower employers to meddle in what medical care their employers can spend their medical benefits, and that's wrong.

It sure doesn't. Nobody is getting fired for buying supplemental insurance, buying their own contraception, etc... Just as you wouldn't want to be forced to buy your employees Bibles, the owners of Hobby Lobby do not want to buy what they consider abortion pills. It's that simple.

The separation between church and state held the provision that e.g. employers couldn't use their power to meddle in the (privileged) docter-patient relationship, and that protection has just been lifted.

No it didn't. Nobody is meddling.

The question of whether Hobby-Lobby employees can make do in other ways is irrelevant.

Translation from Internet Atheist to English: Irrelevant - "You had a really great point and I can't argue with it."

I think they shouldn't have to have to circumnavigate this particular obstacle in the first place.

Then work somewhere else. I don't agree with everything my employer does, but I choose to work there anyway.

I get the distinct impression that people fail to see how dangerous it is to lift this protection because it's touted as "Christian". For better or worse, Hindu, Muslim, Satanist, and Scientologist "religions" just got the same rights.

Good for them. I support religious freedoms.

Your analogy about the "Hindu refusing to buy me [...]" is beside the point I think, because that's a case of an employer refusing you discretionary spending. Medical treatment is not discretionary, and although the employer ultimately foots the bill it's not something he would ordinarily have any say in (apart from this "religious" thing now). It's medical benefits, not some gift!

I don't think plan B is a medical treatment. It's elective. A baby is not a disease. I would argue that liposuction comes closer to a treatment.

What I'm calling for is a state in which nobody can construe their their religious "rights" in ways that allow them to impose their religious views on others.

Me too. Which is why I find it odd that you do want to impose your religious beliefs on business owners.

about three weeks ago
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U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

gameboyhippo Re:A win for medieval mentality (1330 comments)

So you're saying that the Supreme Court legislates? I'm afraid I'll have to disagree. All the court said was that if you decide to earn money by opening a business, you don't lose your right to your religious beliefs. Nobody is forcing Hobby Lobby employees to not get the contraception that they want, they're just not fitting the bill for it. Perhaps employees can pay for controversial contraceptions with their $14/hour Hobby Lobby corporate minimum wage. Perhaps the employees can choose one of the 16 other forms of contraceptions that Hobby Lobby is willing to fit the bill for. I find it really weird that people on the left are upset because they can't force their values onto someone else.

I mean if I worked for a Hindu, I wouldn't be upset that he won't buy me McDonalds. And I could be wrong, but food is more important than sex. Perhaps I should be outraged if I can't buy pork sausages from "Hebrew National" because it's run by Jews. What you're calling for is for the State to demand that nobody has any religious rights outside of the church. And that is a horrifying thought.

about three weeks ago
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On 4th of July:

gameboyhippo Re:Hello Americans (340 comments)

Aw... Just ignore Kim Jong Un here. He's just mad that 'merica made it to the second round of the world cup and N. Korea didn't.

about a month ago
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U.S. Supreme Court Upholds Religious Objections To Contraception

gameboyhippo Re:A win for medieval mentality (1330 comments)

I don't understand your comment. Corporations are not states.

about a month ago
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Ask Slashdot: Correlation Between Text Editor and Programming Language?

gameboyhippo Real programmers use echo (359 comments)

As a real programmer, I just echo punchcards into a file.

about a month ago
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Are US Hybrid Sales Peaking Already?

gameboyhippo Re:My experience driving a Prius (377 comments)

I own a couple of Prius vehicles and I've never noticed the delay. That sounds kinda scary if it ever did happen. I wonder if yours was defective.

Going 110 probably had a lot to do with not saving money. I drive at a relaxing 60 - 65 mph and I get great gas mileage.

about a month and a half ago
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Google Fiber Is Officially Making Its Way To Portland

gameboyhippo Re:$300 = free? (153 comments)

Sounds like someone's a bit jealous. :) Here in KC, you typically have to pay an install fee for Internet and then pay a monthly fee for the service. With Google Fiber, you buy the equipment and get the service free.

about a month and a half ago
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Free Wi-Fi Coming To Atlanta's Airport

gameboyhippo Re:KCI has been doing this for years... (135 comments)

I take it you were one of those kids who would say, "Tomatoes are really fruits," right? :) When I communicate, I try to communicate to be understood, not to be "right". In Kansas City, we call Kansas City International KCI. Nobody is confused, especially in context of talking about Kansas City. Nobody would wonder how I was going to get to Indonesia if I said, "Hey I'm driving down to KCI to fly out to New York." Sometimes it's just better to be a little less pedantic. ;)

about 2 months ago
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Free Wi-Fi Coming To Atlanta's Airport

gameboyhippo Re:KCI has been doing this for years... (135 comments)

I think you mean MCI. KCI is the airport in Kon, Indonesia.

Nope. I meant to say KCI. Here in Kansas City, we call "Kansas City International" KCI airport. Nobody in Kansas City calls it MCI. Yes, I'm well aware that the official formal designation is MCI as I have flown out of KCI many times.

about 2 months ago
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Free Wi-Fi Coming To Atlanta's Airport

gameboyhippo KCI has been doing this for years... (135 comments)

As far as I remember KCI has always had free Internet wifi. Combined with the fact that we have Google Fiber, it feels like the rest of America is some third world country.

about 2 months ago
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Belief In Evolution Doesn't Measure Science Literacy

gameboyhippo Re:Wait a sec (772 comments)

So which one of my secondary sources that I listed didn't count? Here, I'll recopy and paste it for you:

those who believe Christianity is true (Kenneth Samples, Bill Craig, Hugh Ross, Clive Lewis, etc...) and those who do not believe Christianity is true (Lawrence Krauss, Bart Ehrman, Richard Dawkins, etc...)

about 2 months ago
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Belief In Evolution Doesn't Measure Science Literacy

gameboyhippo Re:Wait a sec (772 comments)

I simply wrote that I weigh the evidence of those who came before me and decided for myself based on reasoning such evidence. If that is arrogant to humbly admit that I'm not a historian and thus I must lean on the evidence of others then so be it. The real problem you have is that I didn't come to your conclusion. Thus I seem arrogant to stick to what I have already researched. So you assume that the only way someone could believe in that the Gospels are true or primary sources is if they blindly follow something that they were told as a child since they didn't come to your conclusion. Is your definition of humility really that everyone thinks just like you? Could there ever be the possibility that someone could research something and come to a different answer than you?

Since you have trouble with wordplay and analogies, I'll just break what I said down into a list.

Me: Research based on others, understands limitations, admits topics are controversial
You: Knows all the answers, knows topics are settled

about 2 months ago
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Belief In Evolution Doesn't Measure Science Literacy

gameboyhippo Re:Wait a sec (772 comments)

So what you're telling me is that I can only believe that the Gospels are valid if I time travel and validate them myself? That I can't simply look at the research of those who believe Christianity is true (Kenneth Samples, Bill Craig, Hugh Ross, Clive Lewis, etc...) and those who do not believe Christianity is true (Lawrence Krauss, Bart Ehrman, Richard Dawkins, etc...) and decide which way I think the evidence points? Don't you think your criteria is a bit much?

If that is your criteria on believing something is true, I'm not sure how you can sleep at night wondering whether atoms will stick together since you have not validated the four fundamental forces of nature yourself. How do you get on with your day with the thoughts of whether or not you existed five minutes prior plaguing your mind. The answer is that you believe those things because you've researched the evidence of others and/or you hold on to some properly basic beliefs.

Now you've asked, "Who would Jesus smear?" Great question. He would refer to the proud and arrogant as dogs or vipers. He said things like, "I didn't come to save the 'righteous'". He called it like it is.

And just to clarify, I understood you were attempting to trap me by changing the question from "Who validated that Jesus exists" to "Why do you believe in the Gospels". But I answered you anyway. So let's not pretend the two questions are the same. Obviously my personal belief has no impact on whether or not Jesus existed just as my personal belief on how far I can throw a baseball has nothing to do with the physics of throwing a baseball.

about 2 months ago
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Belief In Evolution Doesn't Measure Science Literacy

gameboyhippo Re:Wait a sec (772 comments)

Asking me why I believe something to be true is very different from asking why I believe Jesus is a validated to have existed by mainstream historians. And the answers are very different. If you want names of non-Christian historians, how about starting with someone like "Bart Ehrman"? While I obviously disagree with Bart's conclusions, I would point out that he is one of many examples of non-Christian historians who affirm the existence of Jesus.

In regards to being a student of religion, I'm guessing it means that you've taken or are taking some "religious studies" class at a college or university. I've gone through school as well. So I've experienced how these professors talk: "We know..." "But it was later discovered..." and so on... It is a clear bias where they disingenuously teach their students controversial things as if the issue has been settled. And then students get puffed up thinking that they now have knowledge that these silly uneducated Christians don't.

As far as me being "nebulous" by using words like "mainstream historians", that's fine since this isn't a scholarly paper. I would encourage you to research these topics yourself. I already understand that I cannot convince you since I'm just words from a random guy online. It does me no good to present a case where you've already rejected the premises.

Now to answer your question regarding certainty of faith in the Gospels (which again is very different from the original question being debated), it's for the same reason I have faith in physics. People much smarter than me have already hashed out the issues of physics and I've experienced the effects of physics on my life. Similarly people have already hashed out the issues of Christianity and I've experienced the effects of Christ in my life. So I choose to believe the scholars that corroborate with my experience. I could give you examples, but you'll counter with "affirmation bias", right? The idea that I have to prove something for myself rather than being okay with the research of experts who came before me is silly. I don't have to know how the strong force works for me to believe that protons and neutrons hang out together in a nucleus of an atom. I don't have to prove that for myself. Someone else already researched it and the fact that chemistry happens corroborates their research. So I admit that I accept the research of experts.

In philosophy they call these properly basic beliefs. Did you exist 5 minutes ago? Sure. Can you prove it? No. It's a properly basic belief.

about 2 months ago
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Belief In Evolution Doesn't Measure Science Literacy

gameboyhippo Re:Wait a sec (772 comments)

I assume English isn't your native language. So I'll try to clarify some concepts you have missed. What I was trying to say is that there is research out there that discuss the historicity of Jesus and the Gospels. All I'm saying is that I accept the research of mainstream historians. And when you counter with "This doesn't count" or "That doesn't count". Then I admit only that I do not have a source that would satisfy you. Which makes sense since you feel that nothing counts and the question has been settled. "What we know about the Gospels"? Really? Where'd you get that from? Wikipedia?

I cannot present to you something that does not already researched since I do not claim to have secret knowledge or documents that academia does not already have. And even if I did, "it wouldn't count". I could literally youtube the crucifixion and you would say, "If only you knew what we know. That was some other guy."

You are free to research the arguments for the historicity of Jesus just as you have already gone out of your way to "prove" to yourself that Jesus never existed. I can read wikipedia and counter-apologetic blogs to. I am quite aware of the gyrations people go through to deny the existence of Jesus. I simply choose to go with the research that mainstream historians have presented instead.

To put it another way, if we were talking about "climate change" your position is analogous to the position of the "climate change denier". Many scientist claim that the climate was changing, yet there are those out there who have an excuse for every bit of data presented.

Simply put what you're asking for in a /. post is me to copy and paste volumes of literature to counter what you've read on the Internet just so you can say, "It doesn't count."

about 2 months ago
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Belief In Evolution Doesn't Measure Science Literacy

gameboyhippo Re:Wait a sec (772 comments)

Actually a better substitute question would be, Most modern scientists agree that the climate is changing. Do you see it now? I will give you a hint: There are detractors from facts when facts have consequences. It's the same reason why some people deny the holocaust. Believing in Caesar's existence has no consequences, believing that Jesus didn't exists does.

Where the heck did I hear about atheists discouraging atheists from saying silly things like "Jesus is Fictional"? I don't know. How about this blog for starters? Or how about this non-Christian historian? The better question is how does your painting cross thing even relate to anything?

about a month ago
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Belief In Evolution Doesn't Measure Science Literacy

gameboyhippo Re:Wait a sec (772 comments)

Jesus performed miracles and people did not believe him. God delivered the Israelites from slavery from Egypt through wondrous miracles and they quickly forgot about him. So I doubt I, a mere stranger on the Internet, could present to you any evidence that would allow you to believe that there was a man named Jesus who lived in the first century and was crucified.

I've given you the evidence that historians, even atheist historians, use to assert that a man named Jesus existed. Namely that there are many accounts written about him. Rejecting evidence to come to a less probable answer is your choice. If you reject solid evidence then I concede that I have no case. Just as if the judge rejected the claim that there was a car wreck despite having six different (and perhaps contradictory) testimonies then there is nothing left to discuss in that case.

As for which Gospels are "true" and which ones are "false". Well, if you're not a Christian then you believe that they are all false obviously. If you are a Christian, then you simply trust that this issue has already been ironed out. It's not really important to know everything about something to believe something. I can't tell you if a combustion engine is safe because I don't know how it works. But I can believe it anyway. Furthermore, one can research and study why one Gospel was chosen over another. I'm okay saying that I cannot adequately hash that all out over the span of a message post in a public forum. You're welcome to research this yourself.

about a month ago

Submissions

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Rock Port, MO becomes first 100% Green Energy Town

gameboyhippo gameboyhippo writes  |  more than 6 years ago

gameboyhippo writes "Today, Rock Port, MO (a town known for its geeks and farmers) has become the first town in the United States to become 100% wind powered. The four turbines now produces twice the energy the town uses."
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Javascript is a pain

gameboyhippo gameboyhippo writes  |  more than 8 years ago

So I'm struggling with a javascript function for a little bit. My for loop would end for no reason at all. Eventually I discovered that if you have a var statement in the middle of a for loop or if statement, the whole thing dies silently.

Yeah, I know, that's probably common knowledge, but hey, I'm still in my rookie year at programming professionally.

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