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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Why do you need that transition effect? (553 comments)

Put it this way - Slashdot is the ONLY place on the net where people have such... different views. The engineers I work with don't get fussed about such crap.

As for my account, I've posted on Slashdot before using different accounts because I don't like to let people trace my history, so this is just my latest. The fact you therefore assume that I'm a kid tells me more than you know.

I've given up. Too many people live in their own bubble here. I was just trying to challenge the misconceptions a lot of people have here about normal folks who don't hang around in their fields, and how they see technology. But too many people here are fucking weirdos and I just don't want to have anything to do with them, thinking about.

So until my next account... bye....

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

I'm almost 30 mate. It's the high school geeks who don't understand why the world hasn't embraced open source yet who are the difficult ones.

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Why do you need that transition effect? (553 comments)

Your life isn't that important that a transition effect from when you log in to when the desktop appears will have any practical significance.

Like a lot of people (probably you too) I spend the majority of my working time in front of a computer. I also spend a good portion of my free time involved with computers. I enjoy working with a nice interface because it's soothing. It's pleasant to use. If my interface was full of harsh colors you might argue "well you can still run applications on it". That's true, but it'll subconsciously affect my mood because that's how humans work. That is, most humans anyway.

You don't need a lot of bling. A bit of tasteful bling is hardly an issue. I assume you dress nicely at times? Why do that, if clothes are purely functional? It's because people appreciate good dress sense, and that also applies to computer aesthetics.

I feel like I'm talking to a kid here. You should know this already.

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

She's quite good with technology, that's not the issue. I probably didn't make it clear in my post, but the stress would be due to incompatibility between LibreOffice and MS Office (yes they exists, I've experienced them myself, nothing you say will make this not a fact).

Hopefully you now don't "pity the children under her care".

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

I don't understand the people that post here sometimes. You're all supposed to be geeks, surely you know how to disable a plugin (like I do) so that PDFs can be opened externally, hence not freezing/crashing your browser. But I guess that's too complicated nowadays...

I don't like using the alternatives because honestly, Adobe Reader/Acrobat have the best support for things such as forms that sometime fail in other PDF readers. And since people generally target Reader/Acrobat when building said types of PDFs it feels counter-productive to use a non-standard reader if it's not necessary to do so (even though PDFs are meant to be a standard, sometimes it doesn't quite work out that way).

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

Hell no. I'm not anti-Linux. I'm anti-fanboy who live in their own little reality and get angry that not enough people follow their religion.

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

If you have a bunch of people doing it, yes, a server dedicated to the task is not out of the ordinary.

Bunch of people? I made it clear we're only using this feature for ONE PERSON, you fucking idiot. Heck I didn't bash the WatchOCR, I even mentioned that it might be suitable "for certain scenarios", but setting up a server just for one person?

You are correct though, there are indeed .deb files for Ubuntu. Pity we're not using Linux since we still have a dependance on all that other damn stuff I mentioned (like Office at least), but whatever.

Nothing that Adobe does is elegant. Just because you can't see the guts working doesn't mean it's a massive dump.

Load PDF, select View > Tools > Text Recognition, change a couple of options (or leave the defaults which generally work anyway), and Bam! PDF scanned and text now highlightable/searchable. I agree that a lot of Adobe software is bloated but in terms of steps to get the job done, how is that not elegant?

FYI: Adobe Reader XI is a 36.1 MB download (assuming you use the directly link and not the web installer). But Reader won't do what we want, only the full Acrobat. Can't remember how big that is, but hey, disk space is there to be used.

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:What do you expect? (553 comments)

Man. You are so different to the folks I'm referring to in my sig. Congrats on being sensible. :)

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

It varies. I graduated HS in 2000 (Australia) and recall a mixture of PCs and Macs in my school. As for what my wife encounters I'd probably it's still predominately PCs since they're cheaper than Macs. There are occasionally Macs but not in the same number, and for those Macs that do exist, you can be sure they would be running Office anyway for interoperability.

Australia is still a very Microsoft-friendly country. If we were European I wonder what the odds were that this would be such an issue...

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

You really think the solution is to use a Live CD and run a server on my network? This might work for certain scenarios but it doesn't match what Acrobat does - load up a PDF, convert images to text, allows searching of text within that PDF, all without any extra work since it's all elegantly integrated into the same tool. There's major value in being able to do that within the one program without any additional setup and have it used by a non-geek. I think geeks overlook this rather important facet.

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

Likewise.

I mean what did you expect? You're not listening to reason, you just want to insult. How you expect to grow and appreciate other people's viewpoints by calling them dumb over their choice of operating system, I'm not. But it's fun to watch you squirm. :D

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

I'd expect Office 2007 and 2010 to be compatible with each other (at least you'd hope - they use the same format by default). I can't really get into a discussion with Access or Powerpoint though - from my experience she uses Word the most. Point is though, regardless of what version is being, the schools are still based around the Microsoft ecosystem and as such, deviating from that at home is just gonna make her already stressful job even more stressful. For my own personal use I can use just about anything - but I'm married. I'm hardly gonna create marital harmony just for Linux's sake. :D

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

OK, think about that. What's easier for a HUMAN to do? Have Acrobat do all that work seamlessly and efficiently within the same program, at which point you can re-save and work with it like a text-filled PDF? Or extract the images, run them through a script and dump the text to a file? What if you're looking for captions connecting to diagrams in the PDF? Once translated you'd search easily in Acrobat and you'd be able to clearly see the caption connected to the diagram in the file. With a text dump you'd see no such thing, and you'd have to manually hunt for the correct location of the caption/image.

Something tells me you don't want people to have a use for non-Linux software. You're not used to people not seeing your way. Well I'm smarter than you, friend, because I know how the world works. :)

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

Heh, well...

The problem is mainly due to the fact that the more different the DE is to the status quo, the less support you'll find. By using Windows 7, my wife can use it, my brother can use (on the rare occasions he visits) and basically if someone wants to do something on it, they can, because everyone knows how Windows works. The more you drift from that, the more difficult things get and the more effort needs to be expended. Even if I'm the only one uses my computer, I will end up having to use other computers, whether it's my wifes or someone elses, or my computers at work. Having them all run Windows 7 makes life so much easier than expend the mental effort to remember the UI differences between, in your example, Fluxbox and the Windows shell.

I've already run into this problem, even with GNOME. Gedit uses the non-standard Ctrl + Shft + Z key combination for Redo action (after performing an Undo). Windows universally uses Ctrl + Y; even on Linux Ctrl + Y is used as a redo in LibreOffice and I believe GIMP. But Gedit wants to be different, which is unfortunate since it's the most heavily used text editor I use in Linux. Little things like this get annoying after a while, and that's just one example.

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

I guess some people notice things differently to others. What I know for certain is that a non-composited desktop has a tearing effect when moving/resizing windows since vertical sync isn't applied, where as compositied desktops have silky-smooth window manipulation.

Also, what's wrong with the fade in/out with login/logout in Windows 7? Do you really suffer simply because a second is taken out of your life when it happens? It's not like you'd be able to do anything with the extra second anyway since Window still has to load stuff up (and is still doing so during the transition).

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

Oh come on. Do you really think I'm not aware of LibreOffice? I tried opening some .doc and .docx files recently with it (version 3.6.2) - it was able to open them and show things mostly like they do in Office 2010. But it's that mostly bit which is the problem, and I don't care about whether it's Microsoft's problem or not, the fact remains that it's not a perfect replication. This might not be an issue for certain documents but it certainly increases the odds that it will chew on something critical later down the track. We don't need that level of uncertainty.

Oh, and things like WordArt and borders are sucky in LibreOffice. Writer has Fontwork which is similar, but nowhere near as flexible or pretty (and any Word documents which use WordArt will not render properly in Writer). The borders also aren't as good and Word documents don't transfer properly when using borders from Word. These might seem like "minor" things, but it's an accumulation of "minor" issues in LibreOffice that make it less useful for us than it should be.

I don't' know why people in the FOSS community can't accept the fact that free software often has deficiencies, and those deficiencies can't always been ignored or worked around (or it might not be worth the effort to do so).

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

That's nice. In the real world though what does that mean in terms of available options? Windows, basically. I'm not going to play keyboard/mouse heavy games on a console, plus user mods are kinda out of the question on consoles anyway.

Also, Windows isn't just for games. I use productivity software that doesn't have a comparable feature set in Linux - IrfanView, MS Office, FL Studio, the Adobe Creative Suite, Visual Studio, the list goes on. Games are a big part of it, but even if Steam gains ground in Linux it's still not enough since I'd miss out on the above software as well.

Did you know, Adobe Acrobat has the ability to analyze a PDF which is compromised entirely of scanned pages from a book, perform OCR on it and then actually allows you to perform regular text searching in it as well as highlight and copy the bit-mapped text from the PDF as if it were actual ASCII text? This is frankly amazingly useful for my wife as a lot of the supplied source material for her Masters course is presented in PDF image format. NOTHING like this exists in Linux because Adobe haven't ported Acrobat to Linux, and there are no alternatives. At this point there's no way I'd want to move her to Linux if she can even get this feature any longer (not to mention Office of course).

So yes the prison might exist. But we live in an imperfect world - we have to compromise sometimes in order to get what we want.

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Let's hope Steam on Linux gathers... steam (553 comments)

I just want to address one point in your post:

2. Aesthetics are subjective. I find aero to be gaudy and ugly. The older win2k/nt4 look was much cleaner and faster. Layout wise, it was far superior as well. Windows 8 borders on useless except for extremely simple tasks. I also find OSX and linux gpu accelerated desktops to be slow and ugly too. Seriously, I don't want all these needed fades and transisions and other stupid shit. I want it to respond. Instantly. That's just me.

There is no rule that says you can't have a fast, responsive desktop with a GPU accelerated desktop. Heck, if you're using Compiz it's damn easy - turn off the Animations plugin. Animations and transitional effects are just easier to apply to an accelerated desktop, but every operating system has a method for disabling them. A CPU accelerated desktop has the benefit of being able to incorporate Expose-style functionality, clearly peak behind windows using variable transparency, zooming in onto part of the desktop quickly, plus others. Not to mention alleviate the CPU of doing the rendering when your GPU is just sitting there.

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:Right... like every vendor (553 comments)

But then, what would I know... I'm just an engineer, not a politician or an executive

In my experience, it's extremely unwise to use your title to validate your opinion as if it matters more than someone elses. I'm an engineer too, and I've seen and listened to the rambling of enough fellow engineers to convince me that we're no smarter than anyone else, or more immune to the stupid of human nature.

Not to say your position is wrong, just that invoking your title probably doesn't help.

about 2 years ago
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Microsoft Makes Direct X 11.1 a Windows 8 Exclusive

humanrev Re:New WDDM version is the reason (553 comments)

Well by the time that happens, Windows 8 will either have been (officially) patched to incorporate less Metro and more traditional desktop UI (or provide the option to do so anyway) or Windows 9 will have come out and strip out Metro as a failed experiment.

Either way, if it still requires moving from Windows 7 I'm OK with that, since I never buy Windows and it's damn easy to pirate if you know what you're doing.

about 2 years ago

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