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Pope Francis Declares Evolution and Big Bang Theory Are Right

js_sebastian Re:Only took 359 years to accept Galileo... (627 comments)

It only took them until 1993 to admit they were wrong to try Galielo for heresy (for such modern concepts as the idea that celestial bodies are not perfect spheres attached to the vault of heaven), so people who say the Catholic church has a long tradition of being anti-science definitely have a leg to stand on.

Interesting. Did you look at your linked article? If you believe the Church did not accept the ideas of Galileo until the pope apologized in 1993

No, I don't. Strawman argument? ;-) But they never admitted of being wrong to try for heresy one of the founders of modern science until 1993.

When did the Church accept heliocentrism? In 1758, they dropped the general ban on books arguing the truth of heliocentrism. They finally lifted the ban on Galileo's books in the 1820s.

Interestingly, from a history of science standpoint, the mid-1700s was when the first proof of the Earth's motion was actually empirically measured, in James Bradley's observations of the aberration of light. Bradley first measured this in the late 1720s, but at first didn't understand the results (he was looking for parallax -- the real thing to prove the Earth's motion, as people had been looking for since the 1500s). Later, in the 1740s, he successfully measured and interpreted another aspect of the Earth's motion, the nutation of the Earth's axis.

So, basically in the decades immediately following the first actual empirical proof of heliocentrism, the Church lifted its ban on books asserting it to be true. (Note that the Church always allowed books which treated heliocentrism as a hypothesis or as a mathematical model, which is what it actually was... until sometime in the mid 1700s.)

It's not just helioncentrism. Galileo pointed a telescope at the sky and discovered the moons of Jupiter, craters on the face of the moon, etc, and basically proved that the church's entire view of the cosmos was a childish fanasy that did not pass basic rational scrutiny.

We can argue about Galileo's prosecution as a free-speech issue, but frankly he was wrong about the science (he argued for circular orbits against the elliptical ones Kepler had observed, and his only supposed proof of the Earth's motion was a discredited theory of the tides that required there to be only one high tide at noon every day, for example of a few big holes), and he was called out for being a jerk about things he couldn't prove.

There's nothing to argue frankly, the free-speech issue is clear as glass. I don't know what point you are trying to make. Galileo was wrong about some things, so what? The scientific debate was not between Galielo and the church, but between him and other scientists of his time (and the centuries thereafter). The church's only role in this discussion and other scientific and philosophical discussion of that time was to censor, bully, and burn at the stake (not galileo, but Giordano Bruno was burned in 1600) based on arbitrary interpretations of a bunch of old books.

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Pope Francis Declares Evolution and Big Bang Theory Are Right

js_sebastian Re:Only took 359 years to accept Galileo... (627 comments)

No not really. To apologize for trying Galileo for heresy is not say that they disagreed with the heliocentric theory nor that they now agree with it.

Indeed it says just that, although of course they changed their mind well before 1993. From the wikipedia article on galileo:

In 1616, an Inquisitorial commission unanimously declared heliocentrism to be "foolish and absurd in philosophy, and formally heretical since it explicitly contradicts in many places the sense of Holy Scripture."

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Pope Francis Declares Evolution and Big Bang Theory Are Right

js_sebastian Only took 359 years to accept Galileo... (627 comments)

Evolution and the Big Bang Theory have been accepted theories in the Catholicism for just about as long as they were around (last century or so). In fact the Big Bang Theory was proposed by a Catholic priest! Pope John Paul II said that evolution was the most probable theory and referenced a predecessor Pope's words as agreeing with him.

The article itself thankfully references this fact:

But Pope Francis’s comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of Pope Pius XII, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the Big Bang theory. In 1996, John Paul II went further and suggested evolution was “more than a hypothesis” and “effectively proven fact”.

Though they did seem to want to keep perpetuating the myth that the Church was ever anti-science. When it's just not true.

It only took them until 1993 to admit they were wrong to try Galielo for heresy (for such modern concepts as the idea that celestial bodies are not perfect spheres attached to the vault of heaven), so people who say the Catholic church has a long tradition of being anti-science definitely have a leg to stand on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

yesterday
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Humans Need Not Apply: a Video About the Robot Revolution and Jobs

js_sebastian The Freedom to not starve... (304 comments)

Paraphrasing Tom Morello, "Freedom is the freedom to starve."

A very interesting Sci-fi book "By Light Alone" by Adam roberts takes this concept to the extreme... Basically, the invention of photosynthetizing hair that makes it mostly unnecessary to eat, quite unexpectedly needs to a pretty scary inequality dystopia, and part of the issue is exactly that people no longer need to work to not starve. Also a really good book in my opinion driven by some interesting characters.

about 2 months ago
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The Fiercest Rivalry In Tech: Uber vs. Lyft

js_sebastian Don't blame the submitter... (125 comments)

This is just low-down mafia-level diversion bullshit. This isn't rivalry, and Uber/Lyft aren't fucking tech, they're taxi services that HAPPEN to be tied to using a smartphone - guess what Taxi drivers are tied to all day? A smartphone AND a CB radio AND a bunch of other shit that makes them actually worthy of the tech title.

Submitter should be stopped from posting any more stories until he figures out exactly what is tech worthy. Of course, given the 7 digit UID, not likely.

This was on the front page of the business section of the wall street journal today, including the catchy title about a tech rivalry, so if you disagree that they are tech companies, don't blame the submitter.

From my point of view, Uber and Lyft are using technology to try to disrupt a huge industry, which makes them more interesting than yet another social network or phone app that hopes to live off monetizing users through ads.

about 3 months ago
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Earth In the Midst of Sixth Mass Extinction: the 'Anthropocene Defaunation'

js_sebastian Don't believe we have impact? (342 comments)

I'm not convinced people in mud huts were numerous enough or destructive enough to manage the megafauna extinctions. A lot of this hysterical screaming about how we're destroying the planet seems a lot like hubris.

On certain level, the idea that we have that much power pleases the egos of some people.

It may seem like hubris, but the fact is, it's not. Look at this: http://xkcd.com/1338/

The preponderant majority of land mammals in the world, by weight, are either humans or food for humans. For vegetation, the picture is not much more encouraging: all of the world's wild forests weight less and cover way less land than our agriculture does.

There was a whole special report in the economist about the idea that we are now in a different, man-made geological era, the "anthropocene": http://www.economist.com/node/...

about 3 months ago
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California City Considers Restarting Desalination Plant To Fight Drought

js_sebastian Re:California = 1D10T Errors (420 comments)

When you demand the government subsidize you with free grazing land because you don't own enough land to raise your cattle without it? It is similar to the government subsidizing people with kids with food stamps because they don't have the money to feed them. Whats the difference?

Our hamburgers do not contain any government-subsidized kid meat, you insensitive clod!

about 6 months ago
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Kids Can Swipe a Screen But Can't Use LEGOs

js_sebastian Not so specialized anymore (355 comments)

Those same pieces can be used to build what ever you can imagine.

No so easily nowadays. Lego comes with huge numbers of very specialized pieces which are taylor made for that particular model. You can get the basic bricks but most Lego today is aimed at building one model and then playing with it rather than getting a pile of bricks and letting your imagination run wild.

Not quite true. This was a trend at lego some years back, back when the company was in a bit of a slump. More recently, they try to limit the number of new custom pieces designed for each set. Quite apart from re-play and creative value, each new part requires an expensive and costly to maintain custom mold (we're talking some 100k euros if I recall correctly). In a documentary I saw, the lego designer was saying that for the police station she was developing she was not using any custom parts (that were not already in use in past sets) so she was able to instead add a custom police-dog figure.

about 6 months ago
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Kids Can Swipe a Screen But Can't Use LEGOs

js_sebastian Lego is high tech (355 comments)

It also fails to acknowledge that LEGO is itself technology -- relatively modern, high technology in the grand scheme of humanity

It actually is... saw a documentaries on their factories and design process, it's pretty high tech. Designer scults a model out of clay, 3-D scans it, refines it on the computer. Then they build a custom metal piece into which plastic will be poured to create the pieces (don't know how that part works but each one costs some 100k) and have machines that pump out large numbers of pieces with fairly demanding tolerances (so the pieces will hold together tightly but not jam), which go into conveyor belts that automatically sort the right number and type of pieces into the different sets, etc...

about 6 months ago
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Ask Slashdot: Preparing For Windows XP EOL?

js_sebastian Re:No problem (423 comments)

The logical counter to that is:

YOU HAVE SOMEONE RUNNING A $50,000 ON Win98? Holy crap that is stupid.

Why? These types of systems are in a lot of industries. None of those systems are on the internet. And probably not even on a network at all

That airgap worked real well at Natanz, didn't it?

about 7 months ago
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Ask Slashdot: Preparing For Windows XP EOL?

js_sebastian Re:No problem (423 comments)

It's not stupid. It's quite common for specialised equipment to rely on drivers written for a particular OS. We have a 3 year old transmission dynamometer that cost us $180,000 that is controlled by redundant commodity x86 hardware running XP. There is no need to keep the OS up to date as it serves only one purpose.

Stupid lusers these days think all "PCs" are to be connected to the Internet and used for browsing file sharing sites.

Before you pay 180k for a piece of hardware, you should require either one of (a) a support contract that commits them to developing drivers for the foreseed lifetime of said hardware or (b) an open source driver and specification that allows you to develop the driver yourself. A combination of the two is also possible, where the source code and spec is held in escrow, and you have access to it only if they go under or breach their support contract.

about 7 months ago
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Ask Slashdot: Modern Web Development Applied Science Associates Degree?

js_sebastian Re:Teach the fundamentals (246 comments)

Precisely. When I was at UCSC, the students were agitating for a course in ... [wait for it] ... VAX Assembler.

The department (quite rightly) ignored our plea.

lol the wisdom of history! I think you have now earned the right to include "get off my lawn kids" in your slashdot sig without losing karma.

about 8 months ago
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Asus Announces Small Form Factor 'Chromebox' PCs

js_sebastian Re:Really? (125 comments)

I'd just like a standard PC in that form factor. The only real "full" PC I've seen that might be decent would be Apple's Mac Mini, especially in the video department.

Something that size with 128GB SSD, decent CPU, decent GPU, and 8-16 GB of RAM would be a nice change, and since it would mount on the monitor (if it followed the VESA standard), it would be completely out of the way.

..and I would want mine to be fanless, with no spinning of any kind involved to make noise in my living room. And for that, I'm more than willing to sacrifice some performance.

I recently solved this with a box from fit-PC, bought diskless and fitted with a 128GB SSD. But the asus offering would have been interesting if I did not yet have a fanless living room box, particularly given the price (so long as I can swap in a reasonably sized SSD, and boot it into my choice of linux distro, of course).

about 9 months ago
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Building Deception Into Encryption Software

js_sebastian Re:This is more of authentication than encryption. (106 comments)

TFA was murky, but generating bogus data? If one is brute forcing a data blob, how can it make stuff up?

Actually, it wasn't murky. That it cannot work for arbitrary data types is spelled out towards the end. This is for data of which the encryption system knows the data type well enough to fake it, and the encryption system has to be built to target the specific data type. The examples given are credit card numbers or passwords.

For instance imagine a password manager that, for every decryption attempt with a wrong master password, returns a different set of bogus but plausible passwords. How would a brute force attack automatically determine which one is the "real" set of passwords of the user, even if it can guess the right password?

about 9 months ago
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Are High MOOC Failure Rates a Bug Or a Feature?

js_sebastian Re:MOOCs aren't for the students (122 comments)

MOOCs exist to train cheap workers and (in the long run) to soak up gov't subsidies cheaply.

Right, I'm sure the harvard class I'm taking on the ancient greek hero on edx is preparing me to be a tireless automaton working for the man!...

about 10 months ago
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Are High MOOC Failure Rates a Bug Or a Feature?

js_sebastian Re:the old college time table does not work for al (122 comments)

The college time table does not work that well for people who are working.

Exactly. But a good thing of MOOC is that you don't have to stick to the time table: you can take your time and spend several terms before finishing a class if you have other priorities, especially if you don't care about certificates.

I signed up for a class on ancient greek literature (not exactly my field) on edx last june, when the class was about to end. I continued it in the following term, but did not quite manage to finish it and will do the last few lessons this month. For me this is a success because I had a good time and learned some interesting stuff, and will eventually get to the end of the material, but in terms of MOOC statistics I have failed to complete the class twice already.

about 10 months ago
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Ask Slashdot: How Do You Choose Frameworks That Will Survive?

js_sebastian does it have to be PHP? (227 comments)

Maybe one reaosn PHP framworks come and go is how broken the underlieing language actually is and just how much a framework needs to do to compensate for that, leading almost to a new language that therefore needs a very big community to even survive.

For comparison of how simple a framework can be when the underlieing language is sane, just look at python flask. Not that i'm saying that's the solution to your particualr problem.

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New Operating System Seeks To Replace Linux In the Cloud

js_sebastian Re:So... no separation between system and userspac (335 comments)

How the hell are you running a remotely exploitable email server? Since this OS is designed to only run one program there is nothing else to exploit.

Hmm email server has to handle... emails, duh! Emails are untrusted data coming from untrusted sources, and your mail server is doing complex processing of those emails. So, yes, it is potentially remotely exploitable.

about a year ago
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Joining Lavabit Et Al, Groklaw Shuts Down Because of NSA Dragnet

js_sebastian Re:It was a myth (986 comments)

The cultural differences between US states exist, but they are NOTHING compared to the cultural differences between european states. Why? because these states don't have centuries of independent histories and different languages and literatures and tradition.

Many of our states are roughly equivalent in size to your countries and I'd argue each has it's own unique culture. Texas, for example, is vastly different from Maryland. And that's in many ways: accent, racial composition (+ level of racism), foods, culture, hobbies, government, etc, etc. -- Florida has alot of Cuban influence -- New Mexico/California has alot of Mexican influence. And so on.

Sure, US states are big compared to european countries, some of them even in term of population (california, at 39 or so millions is comparable to a mid-sized european country). But the cultural diversity that you are talking about to me seems more comparable to the regional diversity within european countries such as italy, the UK or spain, which have mutually incomprehensible dialects/languages, completely different regional cuisines, and in some cases even some level of legal autonomy (spain, germany, UK) somewhat comparable to what US states enjoy.

Americans are very mobile: they move from one state to another to study, work, marry, etc

Says who? Most people never relocate after their first job/marriage. They at best would experience two states, their birth state and their death state. Over 50% never leave the state they grew up in: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2008/12/17/who-moves-who-stays-put-wheres-home/

I don't consider that "highly mobile" --

This is fairly obvious to anyone who knows a little about both continents, but if you want a citation, how about this one: http://www.acco.be/download/nl/10987314/file/ (from 2008).

In the for- mer EU15, only about 0.1% of the working age popu- lation changes its country of residence in a given year. Conversely, in the US, about 3% of the working age population moves to a different state every year,

So by this measure, americans are 20 times more mobile inter-state than europeans are inter-country.

unless they're in the army where they get shuffled around alot from base to base. And that's why language differences don't matter much -- because no one really knows anything outside of their home state anyways.

It's interesting that you mention the army. The policy in italy back when there was the draft was to send people to different parts of the country for military service, to help spread a common italian language and culture, because a lot of people never even traveled outside their region, let alone move there to live and work. That, together with national TV, is what has brought some level of linguistic and cultural unification to Italy in recent decades.

about a year ago

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Nuclear energy now more expensive than solar

js_sebastian js_sebastian writes  |  more than 4 years ago

js_sebastian (946118) writes "According to an article on the New York Times, a historical cross-over has occurred because of the declining costs of solar vs the increasing costs of nuclear energy: solar (hardly the cheapest of renewable technologies, is now cheaper than nuclear, at around 16 cents per kilowatt hour. Furthermore, the NY Times reports that financial markets will not finance the construction of nuclear power plants unless the risk of default (which is historically as high as 50 percent for the nuclear industry) is externalized to someone else through federal loan guarantees or ratepayer funding. The bottom line seems to be that nuclear is simply not competitive, and the push from the US government to subsidize it seems to be forcing the wrong choice on the market."
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