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Has Wikipedia Peaked?

llywrch Re:Answers (484 comments)

I wish I could think of something to say that would change your mind, to make you feel better -- but I can't think of anything that wouldn't sound insincere. You're right about the fact that Wikipedians who don't edit articles get more respect; I don't know why this is -- perhaps it's some perverse tendency we humans have. And I won't argue with the general perception that Wikipedia seems to be more bureaucratic than it used to be. (Ironic for a project created by a libertarian.)

Maybe it's that I've always found my pleasure in Wikipedia from finding & sharing information. I enjoy reading, & am always hunting thru Amazon, Alibris & Abebooks for titles I don't have. I focus on the writing & not on dealing with the cranks, kooks, & promoters seeking to push their own beliefs, theories or products. I stay to my own corners of Wikipedia, & am left alone in my ivy-clad, digital tower to try to produce useful information. I notice that a number of long-term Wikipedians are doing much the same thing. And maybe after Wikipedia is no longer the K-rad k3wl website to be, those of us who are left can get back to the important duty of passing knowledge on to future generations -- as long as there is electricity, of course.


more than 6 years ago


llywrch hasn't submitted any stories.



llywrch llywrch writes  |  about 12 years ago


I just peaked into /. to see if there were any new stories before I logged off & went to bed, & I saw a line at the top of the web page that I haven't seen for months:

``Have you meta-moderated today?"

So I clicked on the link & cast my votes.

If these were a random sample of posts, then the average quality of posts haven't changed much since I pissed off Cmdr Taco et alia by moderating a certain post. The world did not end because I couldn't say certain moderations were ``fair" or ``unfair". Likewise, I doubt the world will improve because I can now moderate.



llywrch llywrch writes  |  more than 12 years ago


Is read the comments in the forum ``Behind The "Work-At-Home" Street Spam Signs" (, I couldn't help but notice just how many references there were to the upcoming /. boycott.

I have long suspected that Cmr Taco, et alia misjudged the /. audience in how they handled the event that lead to all of this. Now's the time to beat the rush & establish yourself in another forum -- /. is about to enter the critical phase of a terminal illness.

Too bad TPTB refused to see this coming.



llywrch llywrch writes  |  more than 12 years ago

Thursday, for the first time in months, I worked a full eight hours. A local company was infested with Nimda (Win 98 on a mixure of Pentium IIs & IIIs), & one of the jobshops I'm registered with farmed me to them to help clean up the mess.

I'm that desperate for work.

One a happier note: I finally hit on the right string to plug into Google, & found the missing passage for the asetroot man page! (After probes into the source code, & wondering what this lost line or two might be, it turns out to be quite trivial.) Now to submit the change.


llywrch llywrch writes  |  more than 12 years ago

As an addendum to my last entry, I just found this:

I know, I know: & I'm also more than $7 short.

Gripe: if you own a web site, & you penalize a visitor for breaking one of your rules, either stated or unstated, email him the reasons why she/he is being penalized.

Anyone actually reading this? You can email me at -- my ID here is the same username at agora.


llywrch llywrch writes  |  more than 12 years ago

Hmm. Whenever I log into /., I no longer see the pesky notice asking me metamoderate.

Could it be because I put a point on a certain post? It's the one at Kuro5hin had an article about it -- see

The folks running /. are very allergic to questions about how the whole moderating mechanism works. (Cowboy Neil, when asked about it, mumbled that it was ``a boring topic", & continued typing his grey words. A troll parodied the silent actions of the owners with this post -- Which is sad because a lot of folks obsess so much about it. And the silence only makes these people wonder more.

And the latest comment I've made got modded down because it was ``Offtopic". Hmm some more.

Aw, the hell with it. If the folks running /. don't want my contributions to keeping the trolls & idiots off the radar, I'm not going to whine about it. You can't make a horse drink. I'll continue to add my comments when I feel I have something to say, & submit stories when I think they might be of interest.

But a community is a fragile thing: /. is a second-generation web site, & it's only a matter of months before someone figures out how to create a third-generation web site. At which time /. will wither away, & be remembered fondly with such places as the Disfunctional Family Circus & the NCSA web directory.


llywrch llywrch writes  |  more than 12 years ago

For the last couple of months, whenever I peer into the /. web site, I find myself obliged to metamoderate roughly twice a day.


Am I one of a dwindling few who metamoderate other's comments? Or is it because I routinely decline to approve/disapprove all of the moderations submitted to me?

FAIC[1], asking Cowboy Neil anything about this is as useful as sending a message to /dev/null.

[1] FAIC == As Far As I'm Concerned


llywrch llywrch writes  |  more than 12 years ago

Monday I learned that the job I thought I might get at Intel went to someone else. First real interview since I was laid off in May 2001, too.

Today I went to my stepmother's mother's funeral. The older woman had been living in a nursing home for the last several years, suffering from exteme senility (she was barely aware of her surroundings), so her death was a release & not a loss.


llywrch llywrch writes  |  more than 12 years ago

Last weekend, I went with the wife to Costco, where she bought the latest Sims add-on pack: Hot Date. And she spent all of her spare time (about 4-6 hours) for the rest of Sunday & Monday vainly attempting to install it. The install went more or less okay, but every time she tried to start The Sims after the install, it would freeze on the splash screen.

I spent most of my time fiddling with the neXtaw UI toolkit, so I only helped a little. But I followed the instructions to the letter: closed every application running in the Systray, used Taskman to stop every service or background process, then did the install. Same result, every time. And no errata on The Sims web site.

And they say Windows makes installing programs easy.


llywrch llywrch writes  |  more than 12 years ago

I realize that my last entry was negative in tone. Heck, all of my entries so far could be said to be negative in tone. There are a couple of reasons for this:

1) When I write in a journal or diary, I tend to be more negative than I usually am in the rest of my life; &

2) I don't like my stepmother.

This Christmas was pretty good for me, compared to my other Xmases. I got some cool stuff I wanted (my wife set out a wrapped present, & I had no idea what was inside -- the first time in years this has happened for me), I had fun at my brother's house, & I ended the day feeling fairly upbeat.

Even though I lost casting my moderator point because my wife got online right after we got home, & I kept me from connecting. (I'm one of the 'Net proletarians who still have a dial-up connection.)

Hey there's more important things in life than posting to /.


llywrch llywrch writes  |  more than 12 years ago

It's coming too fast.

Talking to my sister-in-law last night, I realised that I need to get a present wrapped, packaged & shipped to CA pronto. And I'm not ready.

I blame it on my stepmother. Every Xmas she whined about not being ready for the holiday, mostly because she had to take time to accomidate her stepchildren: I & my younger sister.

And were she to read this here, my stepmother'll complain that I'm committing the Crime of the Century -- embarassing her. As if she'll read ``News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters."

I'll get over this someday.


llywrch llywrch writes  |  more than 12 years ago

The January issue of _Linux_Journal_ arrived in my mail today, with my letter correcting some errors in their November article about pilot-UNIX. (And it was written back in October, so now *my* letter has errors in it.)

Yes, I'm silly for being excited about this . . . but being heard is always a nice feeling.

Of course the copy arrived damaged in the mail.


llywrch llywrch writes  |  more than 12 years ago

In case anybody cares, I have been working on some minor patches to AfterStep. Maybe I should now get an account at advocato. (No, I didn't know Rob Malda did work on AS before I tried it. Your point is?)

Unemployment benefits run out in two more weeks.

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