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Upgrading the Turing Test: Lovelace 2.0

neonsignal Re:tautology ontology (68 comments)

The rest is people projecting their own emotions onto inanimate objects

How do you tell if the object is animate or note? Are you animate? Or am I just projecting my own emotions onto some entity making a post to slashdot? Perhaps 'projection' is the way we understand other humans... Is it ever useful to project onto entities other than humans (animate or not)?

2 days ago

Highly Advanced Backdoor Trojan Cased High-Profile Targets For Years

neonsignal Re:Microsoft Windows only (141 comments)

The term "security through obscurity" is usually defined to refer to obscuring the design of a system, not to key secrecy. The difference is that the secrecy of keys provide a measurable barrier to brute force attacks. This is fundamental to the design of encryption systems, since we want to formally distinguish what must be kept secret from what is revealed.

I agree with your point about minimizing attack surfaces.

2 days ago

Why the Z-80's Data Pins Are Scrambled

neonsignal Re:C=128 (167 comments)

The problem with the 6502 was that if you were writing code for someone else's environment then your use of Page 0 (which many of the index-based instructions used intensively) was restricted because the OS often took up most of that space.

Yes, there was a mindset problem when programming the 6502. In hindsight, page 0 RAM should have been treated as a working space register set, whereas at the time it was treated mostly as a fast RAM littered with persistent variables.

about 2 months ago

The Profoundly Weird, Gender-Specific Roots of the Turing Test

neonsignal Re:Headline, summary, and article are wrong (136 comments)

Indeed. Not only that, but it was the man in Turing's experiment that was replaced with a machine, not the woman. Makes me wonder if the author only skimmed the first page of the twenty-eight page article.

While it is interesting that the analogous experiment that Turing starts with is about gender identification, he does this to make the point about separating physical characteristics from the intellect. He hopes that the reader will accept his premise that a man could pretend to be a woman under the condition that the interrogator can only ask questions remotely. If a reader can accept this, it clears the air a little about the conditions under which we could define a machine as "thinking" in the same way as a human does.

about 5 months ago

Daniel Ellsberg: Snowden Would Not Get a Fair Trial – and Kerry Is Wrong

neonsignal Re:Ellsberg forgets a couple of things (519 comments)

patriot: A person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.

Snowden has been consistent in explaining his motivation as exposing the misuse of government power against American citizens. Whether or not you agree with his method of doing so, it is hard to see that it was unpatriotic (unless your particular definition of patriotism is an unquestioning allegiance to his employer).

Anyway, you have to understand that from the point of view of the rest of the world, we don't really care whether or not Snowden is a patriot. What we care about is that NSA have been working to undermine systems of trust, whether those are the encryption of communications, or even the relationships between friendly countries. And much of this done without significant goverrnment oversight, let alone public discussion. You are naive if you think that the trial of a whistleblower is more important than these subversive actions of the NSA.

about 6 months ago

A Conversation with Ubuntu's Jono Bacon (Video)

neonsignal Re:We don't do flash (53 comments)

As soon as the open source world produces something better than h.264, I'm sure everyone will rush to adopt it.

Because the market always chooses the best technology for the job? Next you'll be telling us that the best musicians end up at the top of the pop charts!

about 8 months ago

Why Standard Deviation Should Be Retired From Scientific Use

neonsignal Re:Standard Deviation is Important (312 comments)

I'm a little surprised at Nassim Taleb's position on this.

He has rightly pointed out that not all distributions that we encounter are Gaussian, and that the outliers (the 'black swans') can be more common than we expect. But moving to a mean absolute deviation hides these effects even more than standard deviation; outliers are further discounted. This would mean that the null hypothesis in studies is more likely to be rejected (mean absolute deviation is typically smaller than standard deviation), and we will be finding 'correlations' everywhere.

For non-Gaussian distributions, the solution is not to discard standard deviation, but to reframe the distribution. For example, for some scale invariant distributions, one could take the standard deviation of the log of the values, which would then translate to a deviation 'index' or 'factor'.

I agree with him that standard deviation is not trustworthy if you apply it blindly. If the standard deviation of a particular distribution is not stable, I want to know about it (not hide it), and come up with a better measure of deviation for that distribution. But I think the emphasis should be on identifying the distributions being studied, rather than trying to push mean absolute deviation as a catch-all measure.

And for Gaussian distributions (which are not uncommon), standard deviation makes a lot of sense mathematically (for the reasons outlined in the parent post).

about 10 months ago

Ask Slashdot: DIY Computational Neuroscience?

neonsignal Re:Good start, now.... (90 comments)

You'll find that the academic system is not as elitist as you would think, at least not in countries where the barriers to entry are low. It only takes a few years to work through a basic degree, and if you have any ability, you can soon move beyond that to real research and contributions.

The reality in academia is that you can put up any ideas at all, and the peer-reviewed journals have a huge diversity of contributors. Sometimes the strongest papers are those that argue an idea to its logical extreme; although reality is usually shades of gray, this diversity of ideas all add insight.

The reason why academia may reject certain ideas is not because the ideas are radical (there are a myriad ideas in the university context), but because those ideas have not been thought through. There is no substitute for years of developing an idea and a coherent presentation of it.

I don't want to gild the lily here; there are many contexts which make it hard for someone to participate in academia, whether for economic reasons or time commitments. But that's a social reality. If many people don't have "a room of one's own" as Virginia Woolf put it, then we have to push for more than changes in the academies; we have to push for fundamental social reform.

about a year ago

Black Silicon Slices and Dices Bacteria

neonsignal Re: a concern (78 comments)

In addition, the asbestos crystal lattices tend to fracture linearly, which results in them remaining in the organism causing damage for a lot longer.

about a year ago

Researchers Dare AI Experts To Crack New GOTCHA Password Scheme

neonsignal Re:You've gotta be kidding me (169 comments)

My understanding is that the password in the exercise is used as a seed to generate the 'gotcha' images. So yes, you then have to match these up to descriptions after entering the password. The aim is to slow down brute forcing of the password.

So for each password try the AI then has to come up with reasonable permutations of the images as compared to a set of descriptions. Only if it can restrict the permutations enough can it run fast enough to brute force the password/permutation hash.

I don't feel the solving gap between humans and AI will be wide enough. Some of the descriptions are too vague for humans to solve: words like 'alien', 'thing', 'guy', 'woman', 'face' don't convey enough visual information, and fit most of the images. Other descriptions are clues for a bot: color words narrow down the permutations (especially since they usually refer to blobs near the centre line); and common placement words like 'head', 'nose', 'eyes', 'mustache' can be linked to particular areas of the image. Clearly a human will do this more easily, but it is doubtful that a human will find only one permutation, and a bot may be able to narrow it down enough.

I can't imagine wanting to attempt this challenge unless I was convinced that humans could select close to the correct permutation for each of the puzzle sets. If a human cannot do it reliably, then it would be unreasonable to expect a bot to have any chance at all.

1 year,17 days

USB Implementers Forum Won't Play Nice With Open Hardware

neonsignal Re:Pardon my ignorance but... (273 comments)

This isn't a recent change; component distributors such as mecanique (see https://web.archive.org/web/20070825070852/http://www.mecanique.co.uk/products/usb/pid.html) used to on-sell blocks of PIDs from their VID many years ago, but the USB-IF started cracking down a number of years ago. Likewise, voti.nl was threatened with legal action (see http://www.voti.nl/shop/catalog.html?USB-PID-10).

For some projects, you can obtain a PID from the manufacturer of a USB chip (eg http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Knowledgebase/caniuseftdisvidformypr.htm), but this generally means using the manufacturer supplied driver, and doesn't really help if you want to customize things more.

There doesn't seem to be a reasonable solution for small runs beyond the prototype phase. So in effect the USB-IF is motivating hobbyists to simply reuse VID/PID pairs from similar devices, which is only going to lead to compatibility headaches in the future.

I can understand that they wish to have an orderly process so that operating systems can have automatic device recognition and driver installation, but it is short-sighted not to provide an opportunity to licence a much smaller address space at a reasonable cost.

(For futher information, the prototype VID is 0x6666 and many known VID/PID pairs in http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids)

about a year ago

Scientists Say Climate Change Is Damaging Iowa Agriculture

neonsignal Re:You're an idiot... (444 comments)

I suspect you are being deliberately obtuse - the disturbing aspect to the ozone measurements wasn't so much the finding of a hole, but that the levels were reducing markedly from year to year.

The cookies are disappearing from the jar. The typical red-face response is "it wasn't me". You go further and say "the cookies weren't ever there". Yet day by day the cookies continue to disappear.

about a year ago

Nokia Design Guru Urges Apple To End Cable Chaos

neonsignal Re: Oh, I totally agree... (791 comments)

The difference being that Apple makes it very difficult for third party manufacturers, while the USB consortium are keen to get broad industry support. For Apple the patent seems to be used to exclude competition, while the USB patent holders and USB manufacturers are engaged in reciprocal and royalty-free licensing arrangements.

From a libre point of view, a patented standard is not the same as a patent-encumbered standard; the difference lies in the licencing.

about a year ago

LLVM's Libc++ Now Has C++1Y Standard Library Support

neonsignal Re:Until it's ubiquitous, it's still a no go... (161 comments)

I don't get the argument "It's not universally supported yet". It's a compiler, not an operating system. Unless perhaps you are trying to share a code base across extremely diverse systems. And even then, the backward compatibility is such that it just means you have to be careful about restricting certain features in the shared part of the code base. Most developers can cope with working on multiple dialects of a programming language, even, astonishingly, multiple languages! It doesn't make sense to not use language features when you can (unless you think those features are bad or buggy). And we have been working with compilers that don't have full compliance to any standard for a long time now!

I can understand some caution in adopting a new compiler, but the C++11 features have been around in nascent form long before the standardization happened. It isn't like the committee doesn't take time to make decisions...

about a year ago

U.S. Gov't Still Fighting the Man Behind Buckyballs; Guess Who's Winning?

neonsignal Re: no harm was done (555 comments)

While I agree that the product was not defective, and that banning was out of proportion to the scale of the problem, there was a potential for harm if they were given to children (not that they were marketed in that way). There have been a number of incidents in the past with other magnetic toys.

about a year ago

Ask Slashdot: Speeding Up Personal Anti-Spam Filters?

neonsignal Re:Sqlite will be awesome (190 comments)

I doubt that he is using "grep -F -f ...", because fgrep can search for a hundred thousand patterns in a megabyte of data in under a second even on a modest machine (and most of the time is building up the regex state machine). I suspect he is using "egrep -f", and lots of patterns with wildcards. Worse, he will be running it once on each email, which means rebuilding the regex state machine each time.

about a year ago

Researchers Reverse-Engineer Dropbox, Cracking Heavily Obfuscated Python App

neonsignal Re:Waste of resources (242 comments)

Actually, it's more like not locking it at all, and putting a big potplant in front of the door to hide it...

about a year ago

Could a Grace Hopper Get Hired In Today's Silicon Valley?

neonsignal Re:Why aren't more women in science fields? (608 comments)

I studied computer science in the mid 1980s (in Australia), and around 50% of the undergrads were female (unlike in engineering at the time). The ratio now is quite skewed, so something has clearly changed. There is probably a combination of factors, but I reckon we are missing out on a lot of good programmers simply because the field has become less attractive to women.

about a year ago

Adapteva Parallella Supercomputing Boards Start Shipping

neonsignal Re:Parallel is not necessarily better (98 comments)

But indeed, it is the learning experience that is required, because cores are not getting particularly faster, and we are going to have to come to grips with how to parallelize much of our computing. The individual cores in this project may not be particularly powerful, but they aren't really weak either; the total compute power of this board is more than you are going to get out of your latest Intel processor, and uses a whole lot less power. Yes, it isn't ideal given our current algorithms and ways of writing programs, but massive parallelism is at the centre of performance computing, and will be for the foreseeable future.

about a year ago

Scientists Seek Biomarkers For Violence

neonsignal Re:Obligatory (294 comments)

Someone must have caught Gattaca on Encore a few weeks ago

No, they lost their daughter in a school shooting (according to the summary). Probably not a good motivator for unbiased science, but an understandable reason why they have taken on this project. One would expect that such a study may indeed find some genetic markers, but as you point out, these would only be indirect and partial origins for an individual's behaviour.

about a year ago



Like a Redstone Cowboy

neonsignal neonsignal writes  |  more than 3 years ago

neonsignal (890658) writes "Machine creations in Minecraft are becoming increasingly complex as people build on each other's ideas. Some notable examples include a Rubik's cube simulator, a 5 channel music sequencer, a 3D color printer, a 16 bit processing unit, and Conway's Game of Life. My own recent contribution is the world's slowest Universal Turing Machine. I'm now waiting for someone to implement Tetris in redstone logic."
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Airbus compensation claim

neonsignal neonsignal writes  |  more than 4 years ago

neonsignal (890658) writes "More than 100 passengers were injured in a 2008 incident in Western Australia, in which the Airbus A330 suddenly pitched down twice in succession. A class action has been initiated in the USA. The Australian Transport Safety Bureau report refers to 'spikes' on one of the three air data inertial reference units, which the flight computer did not filter correctly, resulting in the abrupt attitude change."
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Merry merry copyright king of the bush is he...

neonsignal neonsignal writes  |  more than 4 years ago

neonsignal (890658) writes "Iconic Australian band Men at Work have been ordered to pay royalties for an instrumental riff in their song "Down Under". The notes were sampled from a well-known children's song "Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree", written in 1934 for a Girl Guide's Jamboree. The Justice found the claims of the copyright owner Larrikin to be excessive, but ordered the payment of royalties and a percentage of future profits. Let's hope the primary schools are up to date with their ARIA license fees!"
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autopsy of Tutankhamen

neonsignal neonsignal writes  |  more than 4 years ago

neonsignal (890658) writes "Royal mummies, including that of Tutankhamen, are the subject of a paper in The Journal of the American Medical Association. Co-author archeologist Zahi Hawass, says that Tutankhamen died of malaria (on top of the infection in a broken leg). The scientists involved in the study also genetically reconstructed a 5-generation pedigree of his immediate lineage."
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Attacks on the computers of Melbourne businesses.

neonsignal neonsignal writes  |  more than 4 years ago

neonsignal (890658) writes "The websites of a number of Melbourne businesses have been damaged, including the loss of data. Those responsible are protesting the series of attacks in the city against Indian students, some of which may have been racially motivated."
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Malaysian blogger on trial for sedition

neonsignal neonsignal writes  |  more than 6 years ago

neonsignal (890658) writes "Raja Petra Kamarudin, a Malaysian blogger, is in court under the Internal Security Act, under which he can be detained indefinitely. He is well known for his commentary on the Malaysian government, and was arrested after a piece on the murder of a Mongolian woman, who was allegedly killed by two policeman and an associate of the deputy prime minister. RPK founded and writes for a site called Malaysia Today , which receives over 1 million hits every day."


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