×

Announcing: Slashdot Deals - Explore geek apps, games, gadgets and more. (what is this?)

Thank you!

We are sorry to see you leave - Beta is different and we value the time you took to try it out. Before you decide to go, please take a look at some value-adds for Beta and learn more about it. Thank you for reading Slashdot, and for making the site better!

Comments

top

Tech Companies Worried Over China's New Rules For Selling To Banks

s.petry Re:Painted target (55 comments)

I know the article says that these companies can't afford to ignore china, but really, if they all got together and said no, could china really afford that? They could always make their own banking software I suppose. Why don't we let them?

Because globalization is the directive, and you can't think this way and be a globalist.

I'm with you, in a free market that is how it should be. China does not have to use banking software developed in the US, they can develop their own. Amaze us with the success of your communism and it's ability to generate educated and innovative people. China used to be very innovative, but more recently they can only copy (aka steal) other people's innovations.

And don't worry, the US is heading down the same path with our system being corrupted. We still have pockets of innovation, but nothing like we had from the late 40s to early 70s.

about half an hour ago
top

FDA Wants To Release Millions of Genetically Modified Mosquitoes In Florida

s.petry Re:So.... (204 comments)

Do you similarly complain about the FUD spread by companies like Monsanto claiming anyone not approving of them 100% is a whacko? Who gets portrayed in media is who the establishment that owns the media wants to portray. This should not be confused with a rational debate.

1 hour ago
top

FDA Wants To Release Millions of Genetically Modified Mosquitoes In Florida

s.petry Re:So.... (204 comments)

Likewise, anyone that disagrees with genetic modification must be an irrational hippie right? Even though we have science to show some of the negative consequences of manipulation there can be no middle ground or debate, only the extreme views matter.

1 hour ago
top

FDA Wants To Release Millions of Genetically Modified Mosquitoes In Florida

s.petry Wow, just wow (204 comments)

Go read up on how many other species rely on the Mosquito for survival. Larvae is a source of food for fish, countless other insects eat adults. They all have a place in the food chain and extinction would be devastating.

As with killer bees, yes things can go seriously wrong when trying to 'help' nature do it's job.

1 hour ago
top

Microsoft To Invest In Rogue Android Startup Cyanogen

s.petry Re:This! (211 comments)

This, and the fact that it's impossible to know if you are conversing with a person, or ten persons in replies. Noise != conversation.

13 hours ago
top

Microsoft To Invest In Rogue Android Startup Cyanogen

s.petry Re:why google keeps microsoft away (211 comments)

I'm not sure what OS and version of Chrome you are running, but mine never crashes (though I use Opera and Firefox primarily). In fact I work for a pretty large company who uses Google apps for just about everything. While I miss Visio (Google Drawings is like "dia" and very primitive) everything else works just fine.. no crashes, no memory hogging, etc..

The reason I don't use Chrome is because I don't trust Google, and in most companies I have freedom to choose my web browser.. where the office type applications are not nearly as flexible in Corporate world.

13 hours ago
top

Microsoft To Invest In Rogue Android Startup Cyanogen

s.petry This! (211 comments)

And as for Microsoft's whining about not having access to the OS layer of Android to run it's applications, I suggest they learn what the application layer is and learn to live in it. Having access to every layer of the OS today is why they are still insecure after well over a decade of security people telling them to fix their stuff.

yesterday
top

FCC Officially Approves Change In the Definition of Broadband

s.petry Re:Still not good enough. (392 comments)

The history of Germany, France, England, Spain, Russia, Cambodia, China, Korea, Rome, Athens, Egypt, and that list could go on and on. In other words, it's not possible to provide a citation for basically the complete history of the world since the advent of Governments.

Surely we could nitpick about all of the various problems Governments have caused, but that big government leads to the ends of societies is not questionable with even a cursory understanding of History.

Oh, and before you try it.. Revolts that lead in restructuring a government (and beheading of old rulers) that retain the name does not imply that those governments are still the same.

yesterday
top

Why Coding Is Not the New Literacy

s.petry Re:Coding vs. literacy (209 comments)

You ignored my question. Is someone that wrote a "Hello World!" program competent enough to understand a Web browser (using your example).

If I take your first post at it's word, a person can not understand anything that happens unless they write code. That measure as given is completely arbitrary, obviously skewed to make you appear to be all knowing. Give me something to measure that is fair, and I might actually (and probably would) agree with you.

The pompousness comes from your original perspective: You are a coder so nothing that happens is a mystery on a computer. Unfortunately as written that is complete BS, and you know it. Writing something like a Browser is a massive undertaking, so you are just as stuck as the non-coder unless you can make time to figure things out. In other words, the mystery is there for you too but you seem to refuse to acknowledge it because of your chosen line of work and arbitrary measurement. And maybe you write Firefox, but then a Kernel is a "mystery" by your standards.. or a Network protocol, or a Word Processor, etc...

yesterday
top

Anonymous No More: Your Coding Style Can Give You Away

s.petry Re:Can they do it with corporate code? (218 comments)

It's not just these type of environments that are strict. Well established companies have the same practices, because the only way to have controlled growth is to adhere to a set of standards. Sure, standards change over time but not quickly. For posterity, controlled does not imply restricted.

yesterday
top

Police Organization Wants Cop-Spotting Dropped From Waze App

s.petry Re:Who eats doughnuts with the doughnut men? (461 comments)

If there were gangs out killing cops, they would not be in need of an application like Waze to do it. The two NYC cops that were killed a couple months ago were not tracked by anything. The killings were by what appears to be a vigilante that wanted to kill "any" cop.

They psychology behind that is a different thread and story, but the point about being "tracked" is valid. Cops drive in marked cars and wear uniforms. Someone actually "hunting" them would not need an application. In fact it would probably be stupid to do so, because of all the data the application tracking (it would limit suspects).

yesterday
top

Police Organization Wants Cop-Spotting Dropped From Waze App

s.petry Re:Who eats doughnuts with the doughnut men? (461 comments)

Haha, of course you immediately jump to the false accusation in an attempt to try and salvage your original failed logic. Of course you can't rationally back your original bullshit, so have to resort to additional fallacy arguments to support your original.

For your information: I have had 0 accidents, 0 tickets, and been driving for over 30 years. If I was a "road-rager", I would at least have had something happen in over 3 decades of driving. I'm not the "slow" guy either, because those guys get into at least as many accidents as the speeders (and most studies show that they cause more accidents).

I gave the points where you were wrong. Invalid generalization, therefor your logic is also invalid. There is no way to salvage broken logic, so scrap your opinion and start over.

yesterday
top

Why Coding Is Not the New Literacy

s.petry Re:Coding vs. literacy (209 comments)

Understanding how something works does not require in depth knowledge of the "something". I know many people who are very competent with the use of a web browser and never wrote a line of code in their life. They check links in email, write their own rules for sorting mail, etc.. etc...

I did not take your last paragraph as a "c'est la vie", I perceived it as an insult to anyone knot a coder. Re-reading, I still perceive it that way due to your choice of wording. You never wrote a database from scratch, so how can you possibly understand one given your own definition? Or does writing a "Hello World" program count as enough "knowledge" in your mind so that technology a person uses is not a mystery?

For posterity, I get your point but it's written in very pompous language. A person does not have to be a coder to be intelligent, a person needs to be intelligent to be intelligent.

2 days ago
top

Why Coding Is Not the New Literacy

s.petry Re:Great link to a 1912 test for 8th graders! (209 comments)

I was in particular referring to John Taylor Gatto, and I forget the lady who was the original secretary for the original department who wrote a great book on the corruption and nature of the original program. That people believe it accidental that all of these extreme liberals have been running the department since it's advent is remarkable in my opinion.

2 days ago
top

By the Numbers: The Highest-Paying States For Tech Professionals

s.petry Re:Salary versus cost of living in each city (136 comments)

I'm not sure how long ago this was, but in the last 5 years rent has gone up an average of 17% a year. Maybe in the Moffet and 101 ghetto something would go for 1.5K today, but I'm a skeptic.

2 days ago
top

Police Organization Wants Cop-Spotting Dropped From Waze App

s.petry Re:get out of the house more often (461 comments)

"I" was not performing the experiment, it was ex police and no officer was named in their request. They simply asked the Desk officer "How would I file a complaint against an officer?". There were no departments that provided the information, and the majority almost immediately started to intimidate or threaten to arrest the person asking the question. A few departments did arrest the person asking.

2 days ago
top

Why Coding Is Not the New Literacy

s.petry Thanks for proving my point. (209 comments)

If you were half as intelligent as you thought you were, you would have reserved comment on the test until you actually read the test. Instead, you spout invalid information in complete ignorance, while pretending to be knowledgeable. Fact checking, learn how to do it! Arguing an opinion which is contrary to facts is exactly the definition of delusion.

In addition to fact checking, contemplate really hard on that part I wrote about the appeal to emotion.

2 days ago
top

Comcast Ghost-Writes Politician's Letters To Support Time Warner Mega-Merger

s.petry Re:Money *needs* to be removed from Politics ... (179 comments)

Except this does not happen under the Oligarchy we currently have. Obama won because people are/were fed up with the corruption. Obama's whole platform was "hope and change", with lines like "I'm going to hold bankers accountable" and "I will be transparent and honest". As soon as he's voted in he does everything GWB did, or close enough where voters can't really tell the difference. His second term was more of the same rhetoric, and an opponent who was completely dysfunctional (when looking at the ticket). It was not a choice to anyone. I don't think McCain is as idiotic as they made him seem, nor Palin for that matter (possibly on both however). That said, he was sabre rattling and openly vowing to resume everything Bush did with 0 changes benefiting the majority.

The D&R show is nothing but drama to keep the masses feeling like they can make a difference. The same people that own the media own the candidates thanks to Citizens United (which was intentionally misnamed to confuse the masses), and that should tell you everything you need to know. Yeah yeah, I know plenty of people that think the WWE is really wrasslin too..

3 days ago
top

By the Numbers: The Highest-Paying States For Tech Professionals

s.petry Re:Salary versus cost of living in each city (136 comments)

From the history I read, it worked very well. Hence, the "Noble uprising" where the Government was taken back over by them and the lottery removed.

3 days ago

Submissions

top

How about some Slashdot Transparancy?

s.petry s.petry writes  |  about 2 months ago

s.petry (762400) writes "A couple of key features of Slashdot appear to be broken, and have been since at least last week when Slashdot went into "offline" mode for several hours. Dice needs to explain what is going on, plans to fix, etc... And "Yes" I checked the Blog area which was last updated in July you insensitive clods!.

Messaging is absolutely broken, I have received no email since the date mentioned above, which by the way we received no information on what exactly broke. A fine middle finger for all of us that have contributed to Slashdot. And yes, I have had named members respond to posts.

I have not seen very much activity in terms of moderation for myself, which is fine for the most part but it's at least unusual. This lead me to start looking at various threads and see how much is actually being moderated. Interestingly I did get a poke for Meta-moderation, which takes me back to November 17th posts...really..

3 moderated posts 2 funny 1 insightful.

0 moderated posts.

2 moderated posts 1 insightful 1 interesting.

0 moderated posts.

1 moderated post 1 insightful.

2 moderated posts 2 moderated insightful 5 posts moderated 3 informative, 2 insightful

No, this is not about me it's about concern for a community system that has been repeatedly messed with at the expense of the members. Even when members of the community have protested against the changes. Perhaps the moderation has a reasonable explanation, but with messaging being broken let me say I'm a skeptic (well normally I'm a skeptic anyway but you probably knew that...)."
top

Slashdot Beta Woes

s.petry s.petry writes  |  about a year ago

s.petry (762400) writes "What is a Slashdot and why the Beta might destroy it?

Slashdot has been around, well, a very long time. Longer than any of it's competators, but not as long as IIRC. Slashdot was a very much one of the first true social media web sites.

On Slashdot, you could create a handle or ID. Something personal, but not too personal, unless you wanted it to be. But it was not required either. We know each other by our handles, we have watched each other grow as people. We may have even taken pot shots at each other in threads. Unless of course you are anonymous, but often we can guess who that really is.

One of Slashdot's first motto's was "News for Nerds" that Matters. I have no idea when that was removed. I have not always scoured the boards here daily, life can get too busy for that. That excuses my ignorance in a way. I guess someone thought it politically incorrect, but most of us "Nerds" enjoyed it. We are proud of who we are, and what we know. Often we use that pride and knowledge to make someone else look bad. That is how we get our digs in, and we enjoy that part of us too. We don't punch people, we belittle them. It's who we are!

What made Slashdot unique were a few things. What you will note here is "who" has been responsible for the success of Slashdot. Hint, it has never been a just the company taking care of the servers and software.

— First, the user base submitted stories that "they" thought mattered. It was not a corporate feed. Sure, stories were submitted about companies. The latest break through from AMD and Intel, various stories regarding the graphic card wars, my compiler is better than your compiler, and yes your scripting language stinks! Microsoft IIS has brought us all a few laughs and lots of flame wars to boot. Still, we not only read about the products but get to my second point.

— User comments. This is the primary why we have been coming here for as long as we have, many of us for decades. We provide alternative opinions or back what was given in the article. This aspect not only makes the "News" interesting, but often leads to other news and information sharing. It's not always positive, but this is the nature of allowing commentary. It also brings out the third point.

— Moderation. Moderation has been done by the community for a very long time. It took lots of trial and error to get a working system. As with any public system it's imperfect, but it's been successful. People can choose to view poorly modded comments, but don't have to. As with posting anonymous versus with our own handle it's an option that allows us to personalize the way we see and read what's on the site. And as a reward for submitting something worth reading, you might get a mod point of your own to use as a reward for someone else.

Why we dislike Beta and what is being pushed, and why this will result in the end of an era if it becomes forced on the community.

1. Bulky graphics. We get that Dice and Slashdot need revenue. I have Karma good enough to disable advertisements, but have never kept this setting on. I realize that Slashdot/Dice make money with this. That said, the ads sit away from my news and out of the way. I can get there if I want it (but nobody has ever gotten a penny from me clicking an ad... nobody!), but it's not forced into my face or news feed.

2. Low text area. I like having enough on my screen to keep me busy without constant scrolling. Slashdot currently has the correct ratio of text to screen. This ratio has never been complained about, yet Beta reduces the usable text area by at least 1/2 and no option for changing the behavior. I hate reading Slashdot on mobile devices because I can't stand scrolling constantly.

3. JavaScript. We all know the risks of JS, and many of us disable it. We also have an option of reading in Lync or non-standard browsers that many of us toy with for both personal and professional reasons. This flexibility is gone in Beta, and we are forced to allow JS to run. If you don't know the risks of allowing JS to run, you probably don't read much on Slashdot. Those that allow JS do so accepting the risk (which is admittedly low on a well known site).

4. Ordering/Sorting/Referencing. Each entry currently gets tagged with a unique thread ID. This allows linking to the exact post in a thread, not just the top of the thread. In Beta this is gone. It could be that the site decided to simply hide the post ID or it was removed. Either way, going to specific posts is something that is used very commonly by the community.

5. Eye candy. Most of us are not here for "eye candy" and many have allergic reactions to eye candy. Slashdot has a good mix currently. It's not as simple as the site starting with a r-e-d-i-t, which is good. That site has a reputation that keeps many of us away, and their format matches my attitude of them (s-i-m-p-l-e-t-o-n). At the same time, it's not like watching some other "news" sites with so much scrolling crap I can't read an article without getting a headache. The wasted space in beta for big bulky borders, sure smells like eye candy. Nothing buzzes or scrolls yet, but we can sense what's coming in a patch later.

The thing is, the community cares about Slashdot. We come here because we care. We submit stories because of that, we vote because of that, we moderate because of that, and we comment because of that. At the same time we realize that without the community Slashdot loses most of its value. We respect that we don't host the servers, backup the databases, or patch the servers. Slashdot/Dice provide the services needed for Slashdot.

It's a give give relationship, and we each get something in return. Slashdot gets tons of Search hits and lots of web traffic. We get a place to learn, teach, and occasionally vent.

Look, if you want to change default color scheme or make pre-made palettes for us to choose from, we would probably be okay with that. If you want to take away our ability to block ads by Karma, or move the ads to the left side of my browser window, I would be okay with those things too.

If you want to make drastic changes to how the site works, this is a different story all together. The reason so many are against Beta is that it breaks some of the fundamental parts of what makes Slashdot work.

User input until recently has not been acknowledged. The acknowledgment we have received is not from the people that are making the decision to push Beta live. We told people Beta was broken, what it lacked, and we were rather surprised to get a warning that Beta would be live despite what we told people. People are already making plans to leave, which means that Slashdot could fade away very soon.

Whether this was the goal for Dice or not remains to be seen. If it is, it's been nice knowing you but I won't be back. A partnership only works when there is mutual respect between the parties. A word of caution, us Nerds have good memories and lots of knowledge. The loss of Slashdot impacts all of Dice holdings, not just Slashdot. I boycott everything a company holds, not just the product group that did me wrong.

If that was not the goal of Dice, you should quickly begin communicating with the user base. What are the plans are to fix what Beta has broken? Why is Beta being pushed live with things broken? A "Sorry we have not been communicating!", and perhaps even a "Thank you" to the user base for helping make Slashdot a success for so many years."
top

Limiting debate in science, is it still science?

s.petry s.petry writes  |  about a year ago

s.petry (762400) writes "We knew that this was coming, but I'm sure many of us thought that science would be immune to censorship. Perhaps not. I was not surprised that it happened on Boing Boing, but on a "science" site I never expected it (at least not this quickly).

These decisions may smack some as subjective or even malicious. After all comments are arguably the digital age response to print's "letter to the editor" — and they often contain criticisms of the article ranging from grammatical erorrs to factual oversights. Some may view the decision to ban comments as a form of censorship, a means for writers to escape any sort of visible accountability among their audience.

While that statement does not get to the meaty subject of real trolling and sock puppets, it does beg a very important set of questions. Especially when the reason for Popular Science from them claims:

And because comments sections tend to be a grotesque reflection of the media culture surrounding them, the cynical work of undermining bedrock scientific doctrine is now being done beneath our own stories, within a website devoted to championing science.

As the article points out, Science is not about doctrine. Science is about methods of proof. Science also requires collaboration and gets much better when numerous minds work on and debate the Science.

Is censorship the right direction, or is finding more intelligent ways of reducing sock puppets and trolls through moderation?"

Link to Original Source

Journals

s.petry has no journal entries.

Slashdot Login

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?