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Google Suggests Separating Students With 'Some CS Knowledge' From Novices

sethstorm Diversity Candidate Preference. (307 comments)

The divisions are based on non-merit criteria.

about a week ago
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Google Suggests Separating Students With 'Some CS Knowledge' From Novices

sethstorm Embrace, Extend, Extinguish Whites/Asians from CS? (307 comments)

To address the challenge of rapidly increasing CS enrollments and increasing diversity, reports the Computing Education Blog, Google in November put out an RFP to universities for its invite-only 3X in 3 Years: CS Capacity Award program, which aims "to support faculty in finding innovative ways to address the capacity problem in their CS courses." In the linked-to RFP document, Google suggests that "students that have some CS background" should not be allowed to attend in-person intro CS courses where they "may be more likely to create a non-welcoming environment," and recommends that they instead be relegated to online courses. According to a recent NSF press release, this recommendation would largely exclude Asian and White boys from classrooms

In other words, they're trying to remove White males and Asians for non-merit reasons, and making it look like it was a merit-based criteria.

The project suggested in the Google RFP — which could be worth $1.5 million over 3 years to a large CS department — seems to embrace-and-extend a practice implemented at Harvey Mudd College years ago under President Maria Klawe, which divided the intro CS offering into separate sections based upon prior programming experience to — as the NY Times put it — reduce the intimidation factor of young men, already seasoned programmers, who dominated the class.

Intimidation? That sounds like they're not interested in merit but in discrimination against Asians and White males - as in wanting to see them leave CS. As one of those "white males that dominated the class" through performance, I used that knowledge to legitimately help others (which might be an extraordinary concept at Harvey Mudd).

The only thing they want to do is to embrace and extend a false sense of diversity while extinguishing the supply of education to those not "diverse" enough.

Google Director of Education and University Relations Maggie Johnson, whose name appears on the CS Capacity RFP, is also on the Board of Code.org (where Klawe is coincidentally an Advisory Board member), the K-12 learn-to-code nonprofit that has received $3+ million from Google and many millions more from other tech giants and their execs. Earlier this week, Code.org received the blessing of the White House and NSF to train 25,000 teachers to teach CS, stirring unease among some educators concerned about the growing influence of corporations in public schools.

As long as you're a Diversity Candidate, they want you to learn. If you're a White male or Asian, they want you not to learn. That, and combined with the preference for non-US labor, they don't want White males or Asians in traditional lines of work either.

about a week ago
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Seeking Coders, Tech Titans Turn To K-12 Schools

sethstorm van Der Snoot Private Academy much? (105 comments)

Wow, sounds just about like classes we had in the US until the 1930s when we adopted the Prussian designed "Industrial Education system" which made people smart enough to calculate artillery range but too damn stupid to question orders doesn't it? Oh, you may not know this part of history since it's buried in piles of bureaucratic shit to hide it.. but it's there!

Your epic contempt for public schools, however good they can get, is shining brightly. Then again, I doubt you've seen a well-run, highly-ranked public school.

On the other hand, no real problem exists with the people we have.

about two weeks ago
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Seeking Coders, Tech Titans Turn To K-12 Schools

sethstorm Businesses caused the problem by being too picky (105 comments)

It certainly could turn into a cheap labor scenario, and I am no fan of the H1-B, having worked with many in my time, but businesses that do not have a good pool of candidates are in big trouble, because you need talent as well as skill on your coding bench to make money and get ahead unless you're already a giant, and even then it hurts when your coders suck. Many H1-Bs are sweatshop hacks. However, there are some who are very talented and I am happy when they manage to upgrade to green card or even naturalize.

That's what you get when you do nothing to counter the entitlement mentality of businesses.

about two weeks ago
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Want To Work For a Cool Tech Company? Hone Your Social Skills

sethstorm Re:US Citizenship is an excuse for discrimination (139 comments)

Current immigration policy in the US, whether or not it was intended to do so, treats the citizen as having too good of a position in the world. Businesses read that as citizenship being business-hostile (unless it's their own).

about two weeks ago
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Want To Work For a Cool Tech Company? Hone Your Social Skills

sethstorm Disparate Impact (139 comments)

Unfortunately, disparate impact can change that statement.

about three weeks ago
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Want To Work For a Cool Tech Company? Hone Your Social Skills

sethstorm US Citizenship is an excuse for discrimination (139 comments)

You are disposable. There will always be another one just like you that they can hire. They can get a dozen resumes with a single call.

Only if citizens are not given their proper prioritization above non-citizens.

That's if they don't just get someone on a H1B visa.

That's an even bigger problem since it presumes that a US citizen is never competent enough.

about three weeks ago
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Ask Slashdot: IT Career Path After 35?

sethstorm Rarity. (376 comments)

I am running my own business these days. but several years ago (2008-2012) I was working for an Israeli start up and was enjoying myself. They appreciated the life-long experience gained during dozens if not hundreds of software projects big and small.

Exception case of someone doing well in a unstable environment designed to be bad for most - versus a system of good pay & security that is better for most.

about three weeks ago
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Ask Slashdot: IT Career Path After 35?

sethstorm Less stable than a damaged nuclear reactor. (376 comments)

So, I would say consider setting up your own company and doing independent consulting. That way you can just help companies out when they need it and continue to stay on the technical side of things. Depending on what your skills are, your rate as an independent consultant will probably exceed what you would make going into management anyway.

Not only do you get to deal with the increased costs (which claw back any increases), you also have an increased lack of stability for when things go wrong (which they will).

I've been doing nothing but contracts for almost 4 years now and almost every week a recruiter or someone is asking me if I'm available for a contract. I haven't noticed any age discrimination yet. I've seen guys in their 70's still working contracts along with me and doing fine.

You're disposable, so they like you - which is the problem at hand.

about three weeks ago
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Ask Slashdot: IT Career Path After 35?

sethstorm Aka the Fukushima sector of employment. (376 comments)

Are you an in-house programmer now? Move to a company that services clients.

Which means that you move to something with the stability of a tsunami-hit nuclear reactor, which is none.

Or if you currently provide services to clients, move the other direction.

The saner move.

about three weeks ago
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Ask Slashdot: IT Career Path After 35?

sethstorm Then be corrected of the error of your ways. (376 comments)

Any reasonable person would be suspicious that age discrimination does not exist.

FTFY.

True, a young engineer will never get rejected for knowing only COBOL - but there's no excuse for a graying one to have that problem either. If anything, good older engineers should be *more* up-to-date because they can learn new technologies faster (having learned so many before), and are more abreast of useful trends (because their experience lets them discern fads from real evolution).

Which only justifies a greater push to kill off age discrimination to allow competent people their day. If it really was about competence, a whole lot of problems in finding people would simply not exist (especially with guest workers).

about three weeks ago
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Ask Slashdot: IT Career Path After 35?

sethstorm Arrogant presumption. (376 comments)

You presume that all should have that ability while not recognizing the good value of those that do not.

about three weeks ago
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Ask Slashdot: IT Career Path After 35?

sethstorm Detroit's finale was OCP^W ALEC's doing. (376 comments)

There are a lot of public employees in Detroit, Michigan who believed that too. Hell, it was in their State Consitution that their pension promises must be 'honest'.

Thank the Mackinac Institute/ALEC-run government for the final push. Not only did they establish one line of control of Detroit (state takeover that effectively nullified elections), but that they rushed through a bankruptcy filing to gain another. That, and the entities that take over the state call themselves *conservatives* for doing that.

about three weeks ago
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Ask Slashdot: IT Career Path After 35?

sethstorm Re:Of course you can! (376 comments)

Only if your state isn't under the control of ALEC(read: MI/WI/IN/KS/PA and lighter controls under OH). Such states have gone all out against those working for state agencies.

about three weeks ago
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Here's What Your Car Could Look Like In 2030

sethstorm In other words, no real change. (144 comments)

Either way, it means fancy golfcarts for most of us, while the policymaking environmentalist nomenklatura drive whatever they want.

Yes, there's a problem with that.

about three weeks ago
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Ohio College Building Indoor Drone Pavilion

sethstorm So DoD stuff is "liberal"? (42 comments)

(Not sure if parent poster is serious, but oh well)

It might be good to encourage the growth and accessibility to Dayton's remaining/growing industries instead of discouraging it. Unless you've been oblivious to the events of the last 10-15 years in the Miami Valley, you would notice that Dayton is missing some high-profile employers. Sinclair's program would do well to give greater access to the aerospace industry for people not fortunate enough to immediately get accepted to the University of Dayton or Wright State.

Besides, you'd have to call the University of Dayton's aerospace partnership with GE (the Episcenter) "liberal" as well.

If you're happy in Houston doing work with the oil industry (or even aerospace), I have nothing against you. I only speak of this for seeing what Dayton has been (an area led by manufacturing/electronics companies like NCR and GM) and what it will become (an area led by employers in technologically-intensive industries).

about three weeks ago
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LinkedIn Study: US Attracting Fewer Educated, Highly Skilled Migrants

sethstorm The US already is a civilized First World country. (338 comments)

Well, we treat them like crap. On top of that they come here and find that they have very few opportunities to advance any more. Why would they want to come here? They'd be better off going to a civilized first-world country rather than the third-world construct we are trying so hard to make the US into.

It might not be a cultural fit for you, but it is a good fit for over 300m citizens (less amnestied illegals).

Unlike other countries, US property is respected enough to not need legions of gated communities. Other countries have them in quantities large enough to suggest that property is not respected(SE Asia) or to show mass contempt for their citizenry(e.g. Russia).

In addition, citizens enjoy more personal freedoms (despite what some thinktanks would claim) than nearly any other country in the world. For example, self-defense with a firearm is encouraged in many parts of the country(not just Texas), when many parts of the world wish to restrict it. In addition, speaking up against politicians is not followed by a disappearance, house arrest, or defamation charge.

As for the complaints about non-citizens not being treated properly, that comes with any civilized country. Guest workers and illegals are just the next tiers below temporary/contingent/casual employment.

about three weeks ago

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