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NPR: '80s Ads Are Responsible For the Lack of Women Coders

shadowrat Re:1..2..3 before SJW (489 comments)

I didn't really claim it was sexism. i guess when i described the situation i was thinking it was obvious that the mocking is part of the culture regardless of gender. I didn't get the impression that TFA laid the mocking out as the sexism either. TFA was more focused on the idea that the sexism was marketing computers towards boys as toys.

8 hours ago
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NPR: '80s Ads Are Responsible For the Lack of Women Coders

shadowrat Re:I don't accept the premise (489 comments)

Back in the day, computer science was as legitimate a career path for women as medicine, law, or science....

I'd really like to seen some substantiation for this assertion, as it is so important for the validity of the other assertion that there has been a change since then.

I don't believe that computer science had any respect back in the day. heck, when i was in high school in the 80s, the math teacher commended me for being a skilled programmer, but recommended to my parents that I focus on other things because programming wasn't much of a career.

8 hours ago
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NPR: '80s Ads Are Responsible For the Lack of Women Coders

shadowrat Re:1..2..3 before SJW (489 comments)

It's the SJW ninnies that are trying to pretend that nerds are the perpetrators here when they are generally powerless and denigrated.

I find the idea that nerds would ever chase off women particularly amusing. Hell, most of us would KILL to have women around. If women are electing to not pursue the field, it's certainly not because they're unwelcome. On every team that I've ever been on with women, the guys went out of their way to be nice to them.

If you listen to the NPR segment, they have a couple of women who were former compsci majors give accounts of how the men in their classes denigrated them and mocked them for missing some knowledge. I'm not certain it's motivated by a "no girls allowed" attitude. I think there's a broader culture of elitism in compsci that motivates people to try to bolster their own egos by jumping on perceived weaknesses in others.

It's important to note that to focus of the segment was on university compsci courses in the 80s, not women who get employed on professional teams. Generally people are a bit more mature in the workforce (generally). These are 18-22 year old males. They likely were a bit ostracized as nerdy in high school. I think they just get overzealous once they find themselves in a world where athletic prowess is no longer the ultimate display of dominance. they make bad decisions.

They might even be simply showing off. I think i've tried to impress nerd girls the wrong way. Where i thought i was communicating, "hey look at how good i am at this!", i really was saying, "OMG YOU ARE A STUPID GIRL". I certainly wasn't very good at communicating with women in my late teens and early 20s. i'm only marginally better at it 20 years later.

9 hours ago
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Scientists Find Rats Aren't Smarter Than Mice, and That's Important

shadowrat sure mice are smart (154 comments)

But it takes more than brains to get out of NIMH. you need to be big enough to not get sucked into the ventilation system.

5 days ago
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Flight Attendants Want Stricter Gadget Rules Reinstated

shadowrat Re:Do it like a virgin (405 comments)

SPOILER ALERT!!!

about a week ago
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Flight Attendants Want Stricter Gadget Rules Reinstated

shadowrat Re:That's not the reason you're being ignored. (405 comments)

There's a difference there. Skydyving training doesn't consist solely of lectures (though there is a fair bit). It's about building muscle memory. You stand there feeling like an idiot with your hands up and pull your chute over and over for a day. When you find yourself falling in that position, it's now perfectly natural to pull out your chute. when something goes wrong, it's perfectly natural to cutaway and pull your reserve. Even if you are going to do a tandem jump, you are still going to run through things on the ground.

I've never been on a flight where they had us practice putting on the oxygen masks or using the inflatable slides.

about a week ago
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Carl Sagan, as "Mr. X," Extolled Benefits of Marijuana

shadowrat I always suspected this! (263 comments)

I knew there had to be some correlation here. One look at the tremendous amount of astrophysicists surrounding the MacArthur bart station in oakland is all you need.

about two weeks ago
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Killer Whales Caught On Tape Speaking Dolphin

shadowrat Re:Sigh (152 comments)

I'm not shocked by this news, yet i still find it amazing. there's nothing wrong with seeing the world with wonder.

about two weeks ago
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Killer Whales Caught On Tape Speaking Dolphin

shadowrat pedant here (152 comments)

I'm probably late with this post, but orcas are the largest dolphin. This news really is big dolphins imitate little dolphins. I've also heard of large apes imitating the hand communication of some smaller apes.

about two weeks ago
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Why Do Contextual Ads Fail?

shadowrat Re:Hardly surprising (249 comments)

I don't think that there's any such thing as an advert that I actually want to see.

Oh there are ads i want to see. I want to know about a product that i didn't know existed that i actually need but didn't realize it. That comes a long every once in a while. The problem is, i don't know what i don't know. I search for the things i know about and i either buy them or i don't. the ads I get aren't telling me about anything i didn't know about so they aren't actually driving me to buy stuff.

I know that sounds sort of like a nirvana. and really, it's not the worst thing in the world, but i do think that just randomly showing stuff to people holds a chance of showing them something they never knew they wanted, but they actually do want now that they know about it.

about two weeks ago
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Complain About Comcast, Get Fired From Your Job

shadowrat Re:I'm all for hating Comcast but... (742 comments)

i agree. comcast is a bad guy, but they are not the only bad guys in this story. clearly the employer is not looking out for interests of this guy. At least they are going to put their own interests or the interests of the boss being buddy buddy with some guy at comcast ahead of this guy.

At best this fellow was just not as clever as he thought he was. He maybe should have determined if there was a relationship between his employer and comcast before going on attack. He might actually be downright foolish to have knowingly attacked his boss' buddies at comcast. In fact i find it hard to believe that he wouldn't know this relationship existed and it seems like he might have just had the ego that told him he could totally bully big bad comcast.

Is it possible that all 3 characters in this story are the bad guy?

about two weeks ago
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Intel Drops Gamasutra Sponsorship Over Controversial Editorials

shadowrat Re:gtfo (724 comments)

Prominent Female Game Journalists? They can't be worse than Eminent Bisexual On Line Activists, can they?

Sure, the later is dangerous and all in undeveloped areas like africa, but it's nowhere near the threat of the former here in the US of A.

about three weeks ago
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Former GM Product Czar: Tesla a "Fringe Brand"

shadowrat Re:Preferred the Volt ? (267 comments)

The Volt outsells Teslas. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Go ask those Volt owners if they aspired to own the Volt, if they preferred the Volt or if they settled for the Volt?

i'm sure GM is perfectly happy to have people settle for the volt.

about three weeks ago
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Former GM Product Czar: Tesla a "Fringe Brand"

shadowrat Re:It's true (267 comments)

i don't think the gp's post was equating the tesla with a ferarri. The ferrari is an example of a fringe brand. It's not dominating the auto market place in volume. It has it's core customers and is clearly not a failure of a company. "fringe" is simply a car that isn't for everyone.

about three weeks ago
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Ask Slashdot: Who Should Pay Costs To Attend Conferences?

shadowrat There are upsides to paying your own way (182 comments)

I've been sent to conferences numerous times by previous employers. It's great and all. I learned a lot and brought a lot of new skills back to my workplace, but there's a downside to it as well.

Conferences are a great place to network with other employers. Maybe you wouldn't feel the same, but I kind of felt bad about talking to other potential employers while i was there on my current employer's dime. Sure i signed something saying if i left my company within a year, i'd pay them back. Still, it sort of feels underhanded to me.

I feel a lot better about job hunting at conferences if i send myself. Of course, if i really love my job, i'd love it even more if they paid my way to the conference.

about a month ago
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U2 and Apple Collaborate On 'Non-Piratable, Interactive Format For Music'

shadowrat Re:Expert. (358 comments)

Bono's latest material is a test run of this new technology. I think the strategy is: make it bland enough and the pirates will ignore it.

about a month ago
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An Open Source Pitfall? Mozilla Labs Closed, Quietly

shadowrat what is this even talking about? (112 comments)

How can open source software die? the source is there! Anyone interested in the software has had ample time to get the source. All mozilla or google or any other service is doing is providing some hosting for the git repository. clone it and save it if you care that much about the software. Wringing your hands that and crying all is lost just says you are doing open source wrong.

about a month ago
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Developing the First Law of Robotics

shadowrat Re:So, a design failure then. (165 comments)

Not only that, but the stories in I Robot and asimov's use of the 3 laws were not about laying an actual groundwork for how robots should function, but to illustrate that there are always unintended consequences to the laws. While the stories are really about the unpredictable outcomes of the interplay of those 3 constraints, it is kind of fitting that someone going down the road of trying to realize just one law would not quite get what they were hoping for.

the real genius of the stories of course, isn't that robots should have these laws. it's that he was able to so accurately describe the process of debugging software right up to that a-ha moment where you realize that it's actually doing exactly what you told it to do all along. the guy wrote that stuff in the 30's and 40's and i'm still having those irobot moments every day.

about a month ago
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Extent of Antarctic Sea Ice Reaches Record Levels

shadowrat Re:Time for new terminology (635 comments)

this is the most rational statement i've ever seen presented on the matter. well done.

about a month ago

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